Re:Who is getting this money?
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Walnut Creek is the publisher of the CDs.
WC also employs many big names (and some not so big names) who work on FreeBSD. Besides paying their salaries, the money goes to buy/maintain boxes like beast, builder, freefall, hub, and all of the other nifty boxes available for the world and developers to use/test stuff on.
But if you aren't employeed by WC, you do it for the love of the project:)
Now that this big _linux_ company has purchased a media site, how can we be sure our news isn't tainted?
I'm not trying to sound cynical, but I highly doubt we'll see any more articles that speak of anything related to VA Linux in a manner that doesn't kiss its feet. Will the BSD, BeOS, Windows, and Macintosh users be screwed? What steps are being taken to preserve whatever quality slashdot had?
Wait, I kid myself. Slashdot has _always_ been biased towards linux. (And there goes my karma)
Loki tests their games to run with FreeBSD/x86. I'm going to assume that you are using an Intel processor, because if you aren't, you are SOL.
The game should run fine with any of the 3 BSDs on x86 with linux compat. As for the people running Free/Open/Net on a non-x86 platform, I think you are going to have to bite the bullet. Unless you get bochs:)
You can limit the maxproc for every user, and prevent the fork bomb from taking you down. As for that Linux Fork Disarmer thing that the AC mentioned, I don't get it. Makes as much sense as gtk frontends to kill(1)
The command is make world. Read the handbook for more.
And it would also be good of me to inform you that the tree just underwent a series of rapid changes and may more may not build. It has been failing for a lot of people over here..
If it was ready for the user, it wouldn't be code frozen, it'd be RELEASE'd:P
Why do people think that "frozen" means "ready"?:)
I'm quite aware of the differences between an argument and a fact. Your argument was along the lines of an average user would have difficulty installing some [linux] software.
You supported that contention with the fact the SO port wants a big/tmp.
As for me being a rabit advocate, I don't think that is fair to say.
There isn't anything to satisfy, or any of that crap. You said that installing staroffice5 wasn't easy with the port.
I said no, here are a couple easy ways to do it. And now you yell at me implying that I'm an OS bigot?
Actually, there has been a staroffice port for awhile now. /usr/ports/editors/staroffice5, I believe. If a user requires handholding, there is always sysinstall..
(taking moderator hat off) I'm going to guess you don't want an unintelligent AC reply;)
Check http://freebsd.tesserae.com/ Then, read up at http://www.freebsd.org/, mailing lists too
I'd love to address it all in one post, but I can't;p I'll summarize by saying centralized CVS repository, more advanced (preemptive swapping, unreleased experimental compressed swap in the works, contact Luigi Rizzo for more..) VM subsystem..
Better USB support with much more drivers, better NIC support, centralized ports/packages for easy installation of ~3000 external packages..
Based on established 4.4BSDLite code, it just _feels_ rock solid. And much, much more.
Whenever a process _tries_ to do something that it wasn't supposed to do, it GPFs.
Linux, Windows, BSD all have them. But, if the OS is designed well, they won't bring the system down;) They exist in nearly all architectures that support priviliged/user modes, but have different names if they aren't x86.
The data held on the DVD is independant of any video signal format (be it PAL, NTSC, SECAM, or what have you)
The signal is created by the DVD player itself. Hence, there is no such thing as a PAL DVD or a NTSC DVD, but there are such things as a PAL DVD player and a NTSC DVD player.
Don't base progress on the frequency of releases. If that was your base, than NT4 is being developed at a fairly nice speed, because all of the service packs coming out (sigh)
Did you read the changelog? There were mainly bug fixes and other "updates" with only a couple new features being added.
This was just a minor patch, mainly making up for mistakes in the past.
Cruel and unusual punishment? Hah! You seem to forget that access to computers/the internet is a privlige, not a right. When 70% of the world has never touched a computer, let alone the internet, then perhaps it'll be put into perspective for you. (Statistic based on fact that 75% of the world is not in a finacial status in which they always know where their next meal is coming from)
If we lived in a world where everyone was wired, I guess it may be considered cruel and unusual. When 4.2 billion people don't have access, then it isn't cruel to take it away from another.
You lose privliges when you are convicted of a felony. You can't vote again. You can't own a firearm again.... And in the case of a computer criminal, the "firearm" is the computer. Therefore, it is only logical to take them away from their weapon as it is logical to take guns away from a convicted murder.
Now, time for me to go draw up an "IMPRISION MITNICK" banner..
A software developer wants software that was programmed well to be used. And they also want to be the one who can develop that program the best.
Any true hacker wants their program used because it is the best, not because it was shoved down their throats at a PR event. Your work should sell itself.
And yes, I want my product to be used: Hence the reason I don't use the GPL. I prefer more widespread adoption than that.
How many [real/decent] developers get sold over by PR? Real developers get sold to a product by existing quality, how promising a project looks, and their personal beliefs.
No PR event will pick up a real developer, real developers find the project on their own.
I'm not sure how much faster linux development is today then it was back in the early days. In fact, I looked over kernel patch.. 2.3.16(? I forget numbers) and a good 40% of the patch was documentation. Is progress really speeding up? Linux has gained, say, 5 million users over the past 3 years. How many _real_ developers has it gained? 30, maybe? (If you haven't picked up on it already, I'm talking about linux, linux. As in, the kernel. Just something to think about. (Comeon, you seriously don't think that real developers will be convinced to work on linux by some lame PR at a microsoft event!? get real.)
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WC also employs many big names (and some not so big names) who work on FreeBSD. Besides paying their salaries, the money goes to buy/maintain boxes like beast, builder, freefall, hub, and all of the other nifty boxes available for the world and developers to use/test stuff on.
But if you aren't employeed by WC, you do it for the love of the project :)
He is open about it, his life partner is Eric Allman.
I'm not trying to sound cynical, but I highly doubt we'll see any more articles that speak of anything related to VA Linux in a manner that doesn't kiss its feet. Will the BSD, BeOS, Windows, and Macintosh users be screwed? What steps are being taken to preserve whatever quality slashdot had?
Wait, I kid myself. Slashdot has _always_ been biased towards linux. (And there goes my karma)
The game should run fine with any of the 3 BSDs on x86 with linux compat. As for the people running Free/Open/Net on a non-x86 platform, I think you are going to have to bite the bullet. Unless you get bochs :)
It is used usually when you are quoting someone, and they've made a mistake, and you are saying "and thus the way it was"
You can limit the maxproc for every user, and prevent the fork bomb from taking you down. As for that Linux Fork Disarmer thing that the AC mentioned, I don't get it. Makes as much sense as gtk frontends to kill(1)
The command is make world. Read the handbook for more.
And it would also be good of me to inform you that the tree just underwent a series of rapid changes and may more may not build. It has been failing for a lot of people over here..
If it was ready for the user, it wouldn't be code frozen, it'd be RELEASE'd :P
Why do people think that "frozen" means "ready"? :)
;p And now, I drop it.
You supported that contention with the fact the SO port wants a big /tmp.
As for me being a rabit advocate, I don't think that is fair to say.
There isn't anything to satisfy, or any of that crap. You said that installing staroffice5 wasn't easy with the port.
I said no, here are a couple easy ways to do it. And now you yell at me implying that I'm an OS bigot?
And I never was "on your back" to begin with.
Or put your temp directory on another partition (like /var) and symlink.
That is a weak argument: If your hardware is lacking, then of course the software won't install.
We don't need Anonymous Cowards, however.
IP Masquerading is the linux implementation of Network Address Translation, or nat for short. FreeBSD's implementation of NAT is natd.
Unfortunately, if you are leaving Linux because it is too easy, then FreeBSD isn't want you want.
natd is set up as so (all of this is said, step by step, in man natd) Add options IPFIREWALL and IPDIVERT to kernel. Reboot.
ipfw add divert natd from any to any via [ethernet-card-on-the-outside-world]
natd -n [ethernet-card-on-outside-world]
And you are good to go :P
"cc" is the exact same binary as "gcc" :P
Actually, there has been a staroffice port for awhile now.
/usr/ports/editors/staroffice5, I believe.
If a user requires handholding, there is always sysinstall..
You can find out how to obtain FreeBSD in under 30 seconds from http://www.freebsd.org/
Now, FreeBSD _is_ sold in stores like CompUSA and some Fry's.
I'm going to guess you don't want an unintelligent AC reply
Check http://freebsd.tesserae.com/
Then, read up at http://www.freebsd.org/, mailing lists too
I'd love to address it all in one post, but I can't ;p I'll summarize by saying centralized CVS repository, more advanced (preemptive swapping, unreleased experimental compressed swap in the works, contact Luigi Rizzo for more..) VM subsystem..
Better USB support with much more drivers, better NIC support, centralized ports/packages for easy installation of ~3000 external packages..
Based on established 4.4BSDLite code, it just _feels_ rock solid. And much, much more.
A GPF is x86-specific, not MS specific.
Whenever a process _tries_ to do something that it wasn't supposed to do, it GPFs.
Linux, Windows, BSD all have them. But, if the OS is designed well, they won't bring the system down ;)
They exist in nearly all architectures that support priviliged/user modes, but have different names if they aren't x86.
(further reading: http://www.freebsd.org/~jhb/386htm/s09_08.html)
Why would you want to have multiple connections open to a single site?
Your TCP/IP stack isn't that bad, is it?
The data held on the DVD is independant of any video signal format (be it PAL, NTSC, SECAM, or what have you)
The signal is created by the DVD player itself. Hence, there is no such thing as a PAL DVD or a NTSC DVD, but there are such things as a PAL DVD player and a NTSC DVD player.
There is a big difference between being aligned for a processor and using the instruction set of a processor. man gcc
Did you read the changelog? There were mainly bug fixes and other "updates" with only a couple new features being added.
This was just a minor patch, mainly making up for mistakes in the past.
He has lost his rights.
Cruel and unusual punishment? Hah! You seem to forget that access to computers/the internet is a privlige, not a right. When 70% of the world has never touched a computer, let alone the internet, then perhaps it'll be put into perspective for you. (Statistic based on fact that 75% of the world is not in a finacial status in which they always know where their next meal is coming from)
If we lived in a world where everyone was wired, I guess it may be considered cruel and unusual. When 4.2 billion people don't have access, then it isn't cruel to take it away from another.
You lose privliges when you are convicted of a felony. You can't vote again. You can't own a firearm again.... And in the case of a computer criminal, the "firearm" is the computer. Therefore, it is only logical to take them away from their weapon as it is logical to take guns away from a convicted murder.
Now, time for me to go draw up an "IMPRISION MITNICK" banner..
Any true hacker wants their program used because it is the best, not because it was shoved down their throats at a PR event. Your work should sell itself.
And yes, I want my product to be used: Hence the reason I don't use the GPL. I prefer more widespread adoption than that.
Is linux smashing the path for FreeBSD?
Which FreeBSD-STABLE are you referring to? The entire CVS branch?
How many [real/decent] developers get sold over by PR? Real developers get sold to a product by existing quality, how promising a project looks, and their personal beliefs.
No PR event will pick up a real developer, real developers find the project on their own.
I'm not sure how much faster linux development is today then it was back in the early days. In fact, I looked over kernel patch.. 2.3.16(? I forget numbers) and a good 40% of the patch was documentation. Is progress really speeding up? Linux has gained, say, 5 million users over the past 3 years. How many _real_ developers has it gained? 30, maybe?
(If you haven't picked up on it already, I'm talking about linux, linux. As in, the kernel.
Just something to think about. (Comeon, you seriously don't think that real developers will be convinced to work on linux by some lame PR at a microsoft event!? get real.)