Well, I bought them to crossfire but never got it working. Now, while I have two boards installed, I don't have crossfire configured.
As to reinstalling Windows, I've been there too. I had a 9250 along with the Radeon and had to totally reinstall. I found I needed to use some third party tools to clear everything from the system because ATI leaves stuff running even if you delete them. A reg cleaner and a driver cleaner from single user mode.
I thought they just repackaged the drivers from ATI. Anyway, the system got better the first time when I stopped installing the ATI drivers specifically and installed the Diamond MM drivers. It's been two years of mucking with drivers just to get where I am now. I'm currently working (sort of) but reluctant to upgrade the driver again because it's such a pain to do.
Don't know what to say. I'm not making it up. Perhaps I'm just one of the unlucky few with some other unresolved issue. It does seem to work after it comes up. I've thought it might be a heat/cold trace issue somewhere but when a driver update seems to fix the problem, I'm not sure I can really point to a faulty trace.
Well, I use various systems but this is an issue on Windows XP Pro originally and is still an issue with Windows 7. I have a pair of 4870's (put the wrong ones in a prior posting). One for two years now, the other I bought last year after the driver issue seemed resolved in order to run crossfire.
As far as how well it works, after the system comes up, it seems to run fine. Games play, the screens look ok. Once in a great while one of the screens garbages out but I can't recall the last time and it might have been before the most recent driver upgrade.
Possibly both. I'd want to point to a flaky card but Diamond tested it and said it was ok. And considering that I've installed at least one set of drivers where the system was pretty stable (comparatively) for a couple of months, it still points to drivers being at fault.
Nope, Windows 7. And I'm still having problems despite others experiences. I'm not saying everyone has a problem but I do seem to see a lot of griping even on the ATI forums about driver issues and upgrade to 8.x or 9.x or 10.x to fix this problem or that.
I was running nvidia when I decided to build a new system. I'd had problems with the card and even sent it back for testing. It was returned as ok. Eventually I downloaded a driver set that worked for several months so I picked up a second Radeon to make it a pair. Since then the system hasn't worked right. I tried upgrading to 7 in order to use more current drivers and I couldn't even bring Windows 7 up. Finally, when Diamond MM stopped supporting them I went with ATI directly and got drivers that let me install both cards. Still, I've been experiencing problems since I got these stupid things and with them working from time to time and Diamond's testing, I suspect the drivers are still the problem.
Once I either get tired enough at these cards ($400 worth of video), I'll be heading back to nVidia and never coming back.
I don't have the specific driver name in front of me, but I'm still getting ati driver blue screens on boot pretty much every time I bring the system up. Sometimes three or four in a row before the system comes up.
Recently getting degraded graphics. Very very slow response. Powering down will clear it but rebooting won't.
Occasionally get black screens. Everything seem to respond ok and I can see the mouse cursor on the other two screens but not the center, login screen. I can power the system down and when I bring it back up, it's working again.
And Diamond MM doesn't support it any more (pair of Radeon 4750's) so I got the drivers from ATI this last time. At least with the updated ATI drivers, I was able to use two cards again. Prior to that, I wasn't able to have the second card installed. Windows 7 wouldn't even come up.
One reason I upgrade from XP Pro to Win7 was the continuing issues with the drivers. I've sent one of the cards back for them to check out back when I first started having problems but they returned it as ok.
I was 33. I started working at Johns Hopkins APL which was my first taste of the Internet. I ftp'd the games but now I can't recall the site. It had loads of shareware games though.
Well, technically it's per core not per physical CPU. Oracle changed the pricing model for multi-core vs physical processors which killed our interest in upgrading our Sun hardware. We're moving our gear to commodity x86 hardware and virtual machines instead.
One interesting thing is that putting Oracle on a VMWare virtual machine results in a license for every core on the system, not the cores used for the VM but putting Oracle on a Sun virtual machine results in a license just for the cores used in the VM. It's because under VMWare, the guest OS can request additional CPUs when needed however under Sun, the cores are locked at the amount allocated.
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What sort of issues? I have two and one is connected to my laptop via a DIN to PS/2 to USB connectors, the other is a DIN to PS/2 connected to my main computer.
You could be right. We flew from Denver to Florida and back with stops in between. As long as we didn't leave the secure area, we didn't have to hit security again.
Unfortunately Apple still is behind the curve on making PDFs readable. Many new PDFs use jpeg 2000 for images which leave portions of my PDFs blank. It's the same on the iPhone. I can read them fine on my PowerBook G4 and MacBook Pro and even my Windows 7 box, but not on the iPad.
Yea but they're required to pretend or they'll be seen as anti-American. So they post the job description, interview a bunch of applicants, none fit the bill so they can go to India saying "we tried but couldn't find an American who would do the job."
But you're still hiring the cheapest you can find. Given you have two candidates of equal qualifications (more or less; no one's exactly the same), you'll still hire the one who'll accept the least money.
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Well, I bought them to crossfire but never got it working. Now, while I have two boards installed, I don't have crossfire configured.
As to reinstalling Windows, I've been there too. I had a 9250 along with the Radeon and had to totally reinstall. I found I needed to use some third party tools to clear everything from the system because ATI leaves stuff running even if you delete them. A reg cleaner and a driver cleaner from single user mode.
[John]
I thought they just repackaged the drivers from ATI. Anyway, the system got better the first time when I stopped installing the ATI drivers specifically and installed the Diamond MM drivers. It's been two years of mucking with drivers just to get where I am now. I'm currently working (sort of) but reluctant to upgrade the driver again because it's such a pain to do.
[John]
I just check my build pages. They're 4870's not 4750's.
[John]
Don't know what to say. I'm not making it up. Perhaps I'm just one of the unlucky few with some other unresolved issue. It does seem to work after it comes up. I've thought it might be a heat/cold trace issue somewhere but when a driver update seems to fix the problem, I'm not sure I can really point to a faulty trace.
[John]
Not trolling. I'm still having problems even after driver updates. I'll check the link though. And 2008 at minimum, not 2002.
[John]
Well, I use various systems but this is an issue on Windows XP Pro originally and is still an issue with Windows 7. I have a pair of 4870's (put the wrong ones in a prior posting). One for two years now, the other I bought last year after the driver issue seemed resolved in order to run crossfire.
As far as how well it works, after the system comes up, it seems to run fine. Games play, the screens look ok. Once in a great while one of the screens garbages out but I can't recall the last time and it might have been before the most recent driver upgrade.
[John]
Possibly both. I'd want to point to a flaky card but Diamond tested it and said it was ok. And considering that I've installed at least one set of drivers where the system was pretty stable (comparatively) for a couple of months, it still points to drivers being at fault.
[John]
Nope, Windows 7. And I'm still having problems despite others experiences. I'm not saying everyone has a problem but I do seem to see a lot of griping even on the ATI forums about driver issues and upgrade to 8.x or 9.x or 10.x to fix this problem or that.
Doesn't sound all that outdated to me.
[John]
I was running nvidia when I decided to build a new system. I'd had problems with the card and even sent it back for testing. It was returned as ok. Eventually I downloaded a driver set that worked for several months so I picked up a second Radeon to make it a pair. Since then the system hasn't worked right. I tried upgrading to 7 in order to use more current drivers and I couldn't even bring Windows 7 up. Finally, when Diamond MM stopped supporting them I went with ATI directly and got drivers that let me install both cards. Still, I've been experiencing problems since I got these stupid things and with them working from time to time and Diamond's testing, I suspect the drivers are still the problem.
Once I either get tired enough at these cards ($400 worth of video), I'll be heading back to nVidia and never coming back.
[John]
Windows 7.
I don't have the specific driver name in front of me, but I'm still getting ati driver blue screens on boot pretty much every time I bring the system up. Sometimes three or four in a row before the system comes up.
Recently getting degraded graphics. Very very slow response. Powering down will clear it but rebooting won't.
Occasionally get black screens. Everything seem to respond ok and I can see the mouse cursor on the other two screens but not the center, login screen. I can power the system down and when I bring it back up, it's working again.
And Diamond MM doesn't support it any more (pair of Radeon 4750's) so I got the drivers from ATI this last time. At least with the updated ATI drivers, I was able to use two cards again. Prior to that, I wasn't able to have the second card installed. Windows 7 wouldn't even come up.
One reason I upgrade from XP Pro to Win7 was the continuing issues with the drivers. I've sent one of the cards back for them to check out back when I first started having problems but they returned it as ok.
[John]
Get off my lawn!
I was 33. I started working at Johns Hopkins APL which was my first taste of the Internet. I ftp'd the games but now I can't recall the site. It had loads of shareware games though.
[John]
As long as AMD's driver writers can't come up with stable drivers, picking up an AMD is still a crapshoot.
[John]
Well, technically it's per core not per physical CPU. Oracle changed the pricing model for multi-core vs physical processors which killed our interest in upgrading our Sun hardware. We're moving our gear to commodity x86 hardware and virtual machines instead.
One interesting thing is that putting Oracle on a VMWare virtual machine results in a license for every core on the system, not the cores used for the VM but putting Oracle on a Sun virtual machine results in a license just for the cores used in the VM. It's because under VMWare, the guest OS can request additional CPUs when needed however under Sun, the cores are locked at the amount allocated.
[John]
What sort of issues? I have two and one is connected to my laptop via a DIN to PS/2 to USB connectors, the other is a DIN to PS/2 connected to my main computer.
[John]
Damn, that's some expensive Lox and Bagels. I'd rather pay the RIAA if it's all the same.
[John]
And not even that. More like 49% of the folks who bothered to vote.
[John]
You could be right. We flew from Denver to Florida and back with stops in between. As long as we didn't leave the secure area, we didn't have to hit security again.
[John]
Isn't this how the anti-virus companies work?
[John]
Actually as long as you don't leave the secure area, you won't have to go through security again.
[John]
Yea, but at least you're getting coffee :)
[John]
At least it's started. There was a news article last year about a successful text to 911 in Blackhawk Iowa.
Ah, here's a link to a press release about it:
http://www.intrado.com/assets/documents/blackhawk.pdf
[John]
Unfortunately Apple still is behind the curve on making PDFs readable. Many new PDFs use jpeg 2000 for images which leave portions of my PDFs blank. It's the same on the iPhone. I can read them fine on my PowerBook G4 and MacBook Pro and even my Windows 7 box, but not on the iPad.
[John]
Yea but they're required to pretend or they'll be seen as anti-American. So they post the job description, interview a bunch of applicants, none fit the bill so they can go to India saying "we tried but couldn't find an American who would do the job."
[John]
But you're still hiring the cheapest you can find. Given you have two candidates of equal qualifications (more or less; no one's exactly the same), you'll still hire the one who'll accept the least money.
[John]
I actually had a PC version with blue ASCII graphic walls.
And I meant that when Wolf3d came out, I remembered (fondly) the older wolf game and snagged the demo immediately.
[John]