"how can M$ possibly compete with other companies who come in at a price point nearly $0, with a better product, a good ad campaign, AND profit margins of nearly 100%?"
no one can complete with a fantasy.....
unlike rabid OSS people, MS isn't totally single minded. they could have one section of the company embracing OSS while another tries to destroy it, that's just how big companys are.
"In open source, the software focus is on quality"
No, it's on building your own project which replicates another piece of software exactly but under another license or with some tiny change. Then pissing everyone off on your mailing list and having 3 groups of developers fork on you, each taking the direction you "should" have taken. after the ego cools off all the mini projects release hacked scripts to allow migration, which no one can get to work. When users complain you tell them to RTFM, and that it's all very simple and if they don't like it they can use MS products (which they end up doing)
maybe if people like you stopped sticking up for scum bags that rob people and bash/rape young girls we wouldn't be over run with violent crime? why should "tony" be the one having to solve this problem in the first place by spending thousands on alarms. he IS the victim remember, or does that only apply if your a welfare hogging crook?
"Have you ever done something foolish, perhaps when drunk? I have. Now how would you feel if, as a result of having too much to drink, you did something stupid and, instead of being detained by the police and receiving whatever punishment was appropriate, someone shot you"
total strawman argument. for a start being drunk NEVER deminishs responsibility or excuses your actions. if you break into a house drunk i expect you should be blown away just the same as if you were sober.
frankly i'm sick to death of this attitude that we should wait till we are bashed/raped/robbed before it's acceptable to do anything about it. it lets crooks feel safer and secure commiting their crimes.
right so your advocating we allow the old days of boot sector viruses? get real, this approach is fine MS just need to supply a process where OSS bootloaders can be verified.
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while it's true they aren't perfect, i'm aiming this at all the nay sayers who use this as an oppertunity to attack NASA on their 50th when they would be lucky to understand 1/10th of what goes into the agency's activity's.
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.. how many spacecraft have YOU put into orbit? that's right, silence.
Don't bother with gyms. their a waste of money for the good they do most people. don't buy gimic's you see on tv.
the MOST effective exercise is the exercise you don't even know you are doing. park the car at the far end when you go to the shopping centre, walk to the corner store. these all add up.
I really hope zero gravity experiences become less expensive. 20k - 50k and i would do it, that's the price point. it's one of the things i'd love to do before i die along with stand on the top of everest, see the northern lights and ride a bike from the tip of france to the most eastern point of russia.
"Just look at all the crappy interfaces in the open source world."
never have truer words been spoken. you just have to look at the attitude you get (and we will get) if you critique the gui of OSS.
i found the key to making a good ui was to have the dumbest most annoying person in the company try use the software first. if you can't explain to them how to use it you are sunk right away.
every single one of your arguments would have been equally applied to gas/oil/coal 50 years ago.
"So basically the Sun can give us all the energy we will need for one year in one day and probably be done before breakfast is over."
rubbish, and you know why? your assuming 100% efficent conversion. you are flatout getting 15% after a decade of solar research. honestly i'm fed up with all the poor maths people use when it comes to solar.
it's purely because they just need so much power, it's cheaper to make it yourself than upgrade the power company's lines to cope. it's like that in a lot of places
err no. refineries typically have to generate their own power by coal or gas. bauxcite is typically leached using sodium hydroxide which is highly acidic and requires a disposal area for the tailings.
i haven't worked in a refinery yet that i'd call "clean". people just need to stop falling for the stupid guilt trips about plastic
"It's the fact that there are *too many people* that is the problem. "
oh what a load of crap. the ONLY solution is to have more educated people, people who can create the solutions of the future. if you want to talk about facts how about we talk about the fact that population's are leveling out and have been for the last 20 years. here in australia if it wasn't for immigration we would have had negative growth. most credible population models have the worlds population leveling out at 15 billion, which we can easily sustain.
there are many limits to PV's capcacity which won't ever be over come to the point it can compete with nuclear or coal. PV is only good for situations which are remote or require low voltage low current.
i just don't get this obession with PV, it's not "free" energy, it's bloody expensive energy. cpu development has nothing to do with PV development i don't understand where he got that comparision from...
i get what you are saying but you aren't communicating it that well. what i THINK you mean is that production efficency has gotten better. unfortunately the double edged sword of the free market is that costs have also risen, in part due to us being able to consume raw products so fast.
what is needed is better economic policy and some smack down on the banks - we have made the mistake of letting too much of our economy rest in their hands.
you can afford it because you are lending money from the eu and china (see how that pans out).
that aside, why the hell does someone on here always have to compare the cost of something to the war in iraq and why do they have to use bullshit inflated figures? yes fighting a war is bloody expensive, yes it's money that could be spent better else where. but the real cost is roughly 133 million a day. lieing about it doesn't do anyone any good.
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no one can complete with a fantasy.....
unlike rabid OSS people, MS isn't totally single minded. they could have one section of the company embracing OSS while another tries to destroy it, that's just how big companys are.
No, it's on building your own project which replicates another piece of software exactly but under another license or with some tiny change. Then pissing everyone off on your mailing list and having 3 groups of developers fork on you, each taking the direction you "should" have taken. after the ego cools off all the mini projects release hacked scripts to allow migration, which no one can get to work. When users complain you tell them to RTFM, and that it's all very simple and if they don't like it they can use MS products (which they end up doing)
"Have you ever done something foolish, perhaps when drunk? I have. Now how would you feel if, as a result of having too much to drink, you did something stupid and, instead of being detained by the police and receiving whatever punishment was appropriate, someone shot you"
total strawman argument. for a start being drunk NEVER deminishs responsibility or excuses your actions. if you break into a house drunk i expect you should be blown away just the same as if you were sober.
frankly i'm sick to death of this attitude that we should wait till we are bashed/raped/robbed before it's acceptable to do anything about it. it lets crooks feel safer and secure commiting their crimes.
sorry chief but it's going to cost more than $10 to ship it, so your sunk right away.
right so your advocating we allow the old days of boot sector viruses? get real, this approach is fine MS just need to supply a process where OSS bootloaders can be verified.
while it's true they aren't perfect, i'm aiming this at all the nay sayers who use this as an oppertunity to attack NASA on their 50th when they would be lucky to understand 1/10th of what goes into the agency's activity's.
.. how many spacecraft have YOU put into orbit? that's right, silence.
the MOST effective exercise is the exercise you don't even know you are doing. park the car at the far end when you go to the shopping centre, walk to the corner store. these all add up.
I really hope zero gravity experiences become less expensive. 20k - 50k and i would do it, that's the price point. it's one of the things i'd love to do before i die along with stand on the top of everest, see the northern lights and ride a bike from the tip of france to the most eastern point of russia.
never have truer words been spoken. you just have to look at the attitude you get (and we will get) if you critique the gui of OSS.
i found the key to making a good ui was to have the dumbest most annoying person in the company try use the software first. if you can't explain to them how to use it you are sunk right away.
what makes you think it's clean? like he said when you drill holes in the ground and run water through it bad things come out.
why wouldn't it be informative? he is exactly right. geothermal IS finite. solar is NOT a fix. atleast PV isn't.
"So basically the Sun can give us all the energy we will need for one year in one day and probably be done before breakfast is over."
rubbish, and you know why? your assuming 100% efficent conversion. you are flatout getting 15% after a decade of solar research. honestly i'm fed up with all the poor maths people use when it comes to solar.
it's purely because they just need so much power, it's cheaper to make it yourself than upgrade the power company's lines to cope. it's like that in a lot of places
hah yes my mistake. i have acid on the brain becuase we use 99% pure sulphuric acid where i work now.
i haven't worked in a refinery yet that i'd call "clean". people just need to stop falling for the stupid guilt trips about plastic
the cost of the credits is still arbitrarily set by government, so your whole argument is stillborn.
oh what a load of crap. the ONLY solution is to have more educated people, people who can create the solutions of the future. if you want to talk about facts how about we talk about the fact that population's are leveling out and have been for the last 20 years. here in australia if it wasn't for immigration we would have had negative growth. most credible population models have the worlds population leveling out at 15 billion, which we can easily sustain.
i just don't get this obession with PV, it's not "free" energy, it's bloody expensive energy. cpu development has nothing to do with PV development i don't understand where he got that comparision from...
OR you might just want to think such comments through, like the fact the soil in the backyard is NOTHING like martian dirt.
i reckon they probably simulated the crap out of it, but i guess you never know until you do it for real.
i'm guessing the lower gravity is why it didn't work scooping wet dirt like it did on earth. i'm pretty sure they tested it as well as possible.
i want you to eat nothing but beans and rice for a month and let me know how you feel about it. i'm betting you couldn't even last a week.
this is a serious challenge. i want to see a video diary of it on youtube.
what is needed is better economic policy and some smack down on the banks - we have made the mistake of letting too much of our economy rest in their hands.
that aside, why the hell does someone on here always have to compare the cost of something to the war in iraq and why do they have to use bullshit inflated figures? yes fighting a war is bloody expensive, yes it's money that could be spent better else where. but the real cost is roughly 133 million a day. lieing about it doesn't do anyone any good.