The Revolution will just solidify Nintendo as the Apple of the gaming world. They make good quality, niche products. There is no way the Rev will live up to it's moniker. Also, people like to drone on about innovation adn originality in games, but have a look at the market adn you'll see that casual gamers are the ones driving things these days. And casual gamers want the 25th version of Madden and the "smash the crap out of things" racing games. The good thing is that pays the bills and does allow some original titles to get out there (Katamari). However, it's a fallacy to say that all the market needs is originality because companies have tried and for the most part it flops. Lastly, homebrew does nothing for the bottom line, especially considering that consoles often sell below cost. Your ideas aren't unique and I am sorry to say that they are also idealistic and unrealistic.
I'll do it again anyway. What is the compelling reason for Joe Consumer to go to either format? Most people don't have HDTV and even those that do already watch their DVDs in widescreen and probably think it's good enough. The PS3 might be the wedge that gets Blu Ray into some homes, but if the cost of the movies themselves is higher it will stall for quite a while. There really isn't a killer app and the jump from VHS to DVD is far greater for most then the jump from DVD to next-gen video.
From clueless analysts. I am really tired of hearing all these analysts using their surveys to tell us that the games industry is in for a down turn. More people are playing games than ever and I don't see that changing. Do they think people will go back to passively absorbing TV? Surveys on the whole are pretty useless because people lie or say what they think is the right answer instead of what they really feel.
Not that I have any great love for Microsoft, but I have a greater concern that one of the main players in Blu Ray is Sony and being that Sony owns a major movie studio and tons of other media properties I see that as a conflict of interest. They are far more concerned with protecting their IP at the consumer's expense than looking at what's the best choice for us.
Try again. Without Microsoft's cash infusion and support Halo may have never even been completed. Bungie wasn't do all that well and their last game before Halo (Oni) was a bit of a flop. And it doesn't matter that it was a launch title, because it sold well long after launch and that's still a blockbuster. Lastly, I don't know what planet you live on, but lots of people talk about Halo.
Wow, that's a monster sized brush you got there Timmy. Want to back that up with some real data or is this another "anecdotal study makes it true" sort of thing? Seriously, show us a study that indicated that people trained to use Linux are better problem solvers. They might have more technical skill because it requires more depth of knowledge to get Linux running properly, but knowledge is not the same as ability.
Why? Because this is Slashdot and anything out of Redmond is automatically the spawn of Satan regardless of it's merits. It can never be poor planning, poor implementation or downright incompetence because hey, it Microsoft.
We need alternatives for color printing that are more cost effective. Every generation of printer seems to do more and cost less, but they of course are using the ink to subsidize the printers. I like my Epson printer because I can print on CDs and DVDs, but man the cartridges are killing me.
Do you really think that EB and other stores won't be pushing PS3 or Revolution bundles? They want to rake in as much launch cash as they can and bundles are how they do it. The thing is, as much as people bitch and whine many would have bought the same configuration anyway and you will be able to find unbundled versions as well.
What does that have to do with anything? Or is this just another dogpile anti-MS quip? If you want to make some informed comment on the problems with Windows security then go for it, but talk about a red herring. Also, if you want to go down that road how would you feel if it was Apple enforcing a patent (as they have in the past)?
Well, it's partly rational. I really think Thompson is truly stretching the point and makign all kinds of specious arguments. Especially when it comes to his discussion of the class action suit.
Oh and one more thing. He fails to mention that even if the ratings are enforced by law it won't prevent stupid or spineless parents from buying the games for their kids.
This guy makes all kinds of logical jumps AND using arguments from intimidation. Anyone that says, "Well, if you deny my rock solid evidence then you clearly are ignoring my absolutely irrefutable point of view.", is trying to push something they know is iffy.
To clarify, that wasn't a slag against the article posted, just pointing out the misconceptions that a lot of people in the media still have in regards to gaming. Reactionaries like Jack Thompson, Lieberman and Clinton all scream, "What about the children?" without realizing that the games they are the most worried about aren't meant for children. If you want to stop kids from playing GTA then make the stores enforce the current laws and tell parents to stop sticking their heads in the sand when it comes to ratings.
Wow, what are you smoking and can I have some? If you truly think that Doom 3 is the only game that looks better than PS2 games you really need to get your eyes checked. I don't think any reasonable person could argue with me on this.
It's the Gameboy line-up and now the DS that makes Nintendo the big dollar. The GC is an also ran far behind the PS2 in Japan and even behind the Xbox in the rest of the world.
Right... the guys at PA are the final judge of console success. How about some sales stats to back up what you are saying? Oh, that's right. You won't be able to find any because your statement is full of holes. If you think the PS2 and GC launch were so much better than the Xbox launch then you just have the typical anti-MS glasses on that so many have around here.
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The Revolution will just solidify Nintendo as the Apple of the gaming world. They make good quality, niche products. There is no way the Rev will live up to it's moniker. Also, people like to drone on about innovation adn originality in games, but have a look at the market adn you'll see that casual gamers are the ones driving things these days. And casual gamers want the 25th version of Madden and the "smash the crap out of things" racing games. The good thing is that pays the bills and does allow some original titles to get out there (Katamari). However, it's a fallacy to say that all the market needs is originality because companies have tried and for the most part it flops. Lastly, homebrew does nothing for the bottom line, especially considering that consoles often sell below cost. Your ideas aren't unique and I am sorry to say that they are also idealistic and unrealistic.
I'll do it again anyway. What is the compelling reason for Joe Consumer to go to either format? Most people don't have HDTV and even those that do already watch their DVDs in widescreen and probably think it's good enough. The PS3 might be the wedge that gets Blu Ray into some homes, but if the cost of the movies themselves is higher it will stall for quite a while. There really isn't a killer app and the jump from VHS to DVD is far greater for most then the jump from DVD to next-gen video.
So, I am curious. Do you spell Sony like this "$ony"? Because it's not like they are any better than Microsoft.
From clueless analysts. I am really tired of hearing all these analysts using their surveys to tell us that the games industry is in for a down turn. More people are playing games than ever and I don't see that changing. Do they think people will go back to passively absorbing TV? Surveys on the whole are pretty useless because people lie or say what they think is the right answer instead of what they really feel.
Not that I have any great love for Microsoft, but I have a greater concern that one of the main players in Blu Ray is Sony and being that Sony owns a major movie studio and tons of other media properties I see that as a conflict of interest. They are far more concerned with protecting their IP at the consumer's expense than looking at what's the best choice for us.
Try again. Without Microsoft's cash infusion and support Halo may have never even been completed. Bungie wasn't do all that well and their last game before Halo (Oni) was a bit of a flop. And it doesn't matter that it was a launch title, because it sold well long after launch and that's still a blockbuster. Lastly, I don't know what planet you live on, but lots of people talk about Halo.
Wow, that's a monster sized brush you got there Timmy. Want to back that up with some real data or is this another "anecdotal study makes it true" sort of thing? Seriously, show us a study that indicated that people trained to use Linux are better problem solvers. They might have more technical skill because it requires more depth of knowledge to get Linux running properly, but knowledge is not the same as ability.
Why? Because this is Slashdot and anything out of Redmond is automatically the spawn of Satan regardless of it's merits. It can never be poor planning, poor implementation or downright incompetence because hey, it Microsoft.
RTFA, he actually does deny it.
Actually Gates never said that. It's just an internet legend. http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,1484,00. html
We need alternatives for color printing that are more cost effective. Every generation of printer seems to do more and cost less, but they of course are using the ink to subsidize the printers. I like my Epson printer because I can print on CDs and DVDs, but man the cartridges are killing me.
Some people are trying to show that there is a postive side to gaming as well = http://www.videogamesarenotevil.com/
Agreed, this is an excellent tool that does pretty well everything I need a file compressor to do and it integrates into Windows shell nicely.
Do you really think that EB and other stores won't be pushing PS3 or Revolution bundles? They want to rake in as much launch cash as they can and bundles are how they do it. The thing is, as much as people bitch and whine many would have bought the same configuration anyway and you will be able to find unbundled versions as well.
What does that have to do with anything? Or is this just another dogpile anti-MS quip? If you want to make some informed comment on the problems with Windows security then go for it, but talk about a red herring. Also, if you want to go down that road how would you feel if it was Apple enforcing a patent (as they have in the past)?
Well, it's partly rational. I really think Thompson is truly stretching the point and makign all kinds of specious arguments. Especially when it comes to his discussion of the class action suit.
Oh and one more thing. He fails to mention that even if the ratings are enforced by law it won't prevent stupid or spineless parents from buying the games for their kids.
This guy makes all kinds of logical jumps AND using arguments from intimidation. Anyone that says, "Well, if you deny my rock solid evidence then you clearly are ignoring my absolutely irrefutable point of view.", is trying to push something they know is iffy.
I had heard that Wil Wright is a Christian. Wouldn't that go against Wil's values if it is that case?
To clarify, that wasn't a slag against the article posted, just pointing out the misconceptions that a lot of people in the media still have in regards to gaming. Reactionaries like Jack Thompson, Lieberman and Clinton all scream, "What about the children?" without realizing that the games they are the most worried about aren't meant for children. If you want to stop kids from playing GTA then make the stores enforce the current laws and tell parents to stop sticking their heads in the sand when it comes to ratings.
If people actually research when they wrote articles. According to the ESA the largest group of game players lies between the ages of 18 and 49.
http://www.theesa.com/facts/gamer_data.php
Mainstream press still believes videogames are made and played by 15 year olds in their parent's basements.
Wow, what are you smoking and can I have some? If you truly think that Doom 3 is the only game that looks better than PS2 games you really need to get your eyes checked. I don't think any reasonable person could argue with me on this.
It's the Gameboy line-up and now the DS that makes Nintendo the big dollar. The GC is an also ran far behind the PS2 in Japan and even behind the Xbox in the rest of the world.
Right... the guys at PA are the final judge of console success. How about some sales stats to back up what you are saying? Oh, that's right. You won't be able to find any because your statement is full of holes. If you think the PS2 and GC launch were so much better than the Xbox launch then you just have the typical anti-MS glasses on that so many have around here.
Actually I have for the last 6 years. Is that good enough for you?