Wow,once again the clueless analysts have shown us the light. Honestly, if these people were really all that good at spotting industry trends and making accurate predictions they'd be working in the industry.
Of course it's all vaporware, but somehow you think that a Konami shareholder meeting is an indicator of a total market direction. Also, I couldn't find one Google hit to support your conjecture that Konami stated that 360 games will be the most expensive at the retail end. As for Costco, once again you are making a huge assumption. Not a single one of my friends bought their launch bundles at Costco last time around.
What about EA, Activision, and all the other publishers? They all are going to conform to Sony first party and Konami pricing schemes? Also, please show me the big news splash that would be all over consoel sites stating that MS games will be the most expensive of the next gen. EA has spoken publicly about ALL next gen titles costing more, not just 360. You are really an idiot.
What? You think that $300 for that level of tech is the same ratio as paying for flavoured sugar water at a carnival? Maybe some people don't want a Cube, maybe some people want to play newer games and $300 is a bargain.
Wow, you are really missing the point. You have absolutely no proof that PS3 and Revolution games will be cheaper and you are stating it like it's fact. You are a fanboy pot calling my kettle black. Also, it's amazing that you have a glimpse into the future of all the games coming out for the next gen consoles. I guess the rest of us will have to rely on deciding when they actually ship and we can play them.
So FPS, sport, and racing games are not fun? Geez, what that hell have I been doing enjoying Halo 2 and Forza? Also, if you think that Sony and Nintendo are going to price games any lower on average than MS you really are reaching. Take a look at the shelves and see which company holds their pricing higher for longer. Guess what? It's Nintendo. Both Sony and MS have a great library of greatest hits titles for cheap. Nintendo has a few that are usually still $10 more than the other 2. Also, keep in mind that MS is only one publisher. Do you think EA is going to price games higher on the 360 than the PS3? Once again, lay off the glue friend.
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Right, because we all know Sony is run by a nice Japanese family out of their little shop in Tokyo and Nintendo is a kindly old man that just likes making kids happy. They have no profit or market share motivations like Microsoft does. And Microsoft will go out it's way to make games that suck and to kick puppies.
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Compare the production cost of a game that came out at the start of the last console cycle to the costs of making a game for the 360 or PS3. Then ask yourself how they would ever make any money at $10-12. Millions of people buy DVDs and the occasional game will sell over a million. BY far most sell maybe a few hundred thousand for a hit and less than 100,000 for a flop. Take out everyone's cut and look how much is left for the dev.
Well, since I'm married I don't give a crap about getting girls to like my games. My wife finished San Andreas before me so I have no worries there. Also, I like games where my ability to learn and improve has an impact on gameplay. Retro games are fun once in a while, but they are shallow. You want to sit there and play NES while I check out the new GTA go ahead.
Okay, you are really clueless on this one or just buying into the/. FUD. There has been NO offcial confirmation on HD-DVD at all. The only talk about it has been in reference to movie playback. So, even if they came out with an HD-DVD version down the road it would only be for movie content and not games.
As I stated in my other post on this topic, there is no way a small relativley unknown (in North America) company can take on Nintendo or Sony without spending hundreds of millions on marketing and even then it might not happen. Sure there are people that use their PSP or DS for emulation, but just like modding Xboxes it's still a small fraction of total sales. And no you can't count people that hang out on/. because they are already far more tech savvy than most casual gamers.
Sorry, but if you don't have the marketing budget of Nintendo or Sony and the developers signed you aren't going to be anything more than a curiousity. Nintendo has the handheld market sewn up and only a player like Sony can afford to chip away at that. The roadway of portable gaming is littered with cool "also ran" devices.
We'll see. I'm not convinced that Blu-Ray is going to win. Even if it does come out the prefered format it will be years and years before it reaches any kind of real market penetration. I mean DVD has just caught on like wildfire in the last few years and that's taken a long time. Very few people are going to jump on the Blu-Ray wagon after investing in their DVD collection. Once HDTV is the standard these new formats will have a better chance of gaining ground.
The number of "average" consumers that have a clue when it comes to is pretty damn low. They were given a bullet point list and keeping in line with the usual tendencies they chose the one with the most bullet points and do you want to bet that Blu-Ray had the most bullet points? Back in the early days of word processors I had a conversation with a software distributor as to why Word was starting to outsell Wordperfect and he said Word had a bigger feature list on the back of the box. From that day forward I always paid attention to that aspect of marketing and he was right. People always assume more is better.
Hey, it's a weekly Slashdot feature. Got to have at least one story that talks about how a unpatched Windows PC hooked directly to the net gets infected along with one story about Microsoft killing puppies somewhere in the world.
I highly doubt they would go door to door busting people that bought a mod chip and installed it themselves. This guy was making money off doing something that was illegal on more then one level. Don't try to slant it to make it appear that it was some kind of vendetta against modders.
Seriously, how big of a market is Norway? Also, are they just talking about Microsoft formats or others as well. Do they expect every company to either open their formats or switch to open formats for Norway alone?
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The PS2 had the weakest launch line up that I can remember in Japan and North America. How does that figure into your argument?
Wow,once again the clueless analysts have shown us the light. Honestly, if these people were really all that good at spotting industry trends and making accurate predictions they'd be working in the industry.
Of course it's all vaporware, but somehow you think that a Konami shareholder meeting is an indicator of a total market direction. Also, I couldn't find one Google hit to support your conjecture that Konami stated that 360 games will be the most expensive at the retail end. As for Costco, once again you are making a huge assumption. Not a single one of my friends bought their launch bundles at Costco last time around.
What about EA, Activision, and all the other publishers? They all are going to conform to Sony first party and Konami pricing schemes? Also, please show me the big news splash that would be all over consoel sites stating that MS games will be the most expensive of the next gen. EA has spoken publicly about ALL next gen titles costing more, not just 360. You are really an idiot.
What? You think that $300 for that level of tech is the same ratio as paying for flavoured sugar water at a carnival? Maybe some people don't want a Cube, maybe some people want to play newer games and $300 is a bargain.
Wow, you are really missing the point. You have absolutely no proof that PS3 and Revolution games will be cheaper and you are stating it like it's fact. You are a fanboy pot calling my kettle black. Also, it's amazing that you have a glimpse into the future of all the games coming out for the next gen consoles. I guess the rest of us will have to rely on deciding when they actually ship and we can play them.
So then give us a "fair" analysis. It's one thing to criticize their take, but how do you see the being applied?
So FPS, sport, and racing games are not fun? Geez, what that hell have I been doing enjoying Halo 2 and Forza? Also, if you think that Sony and Nintendo are going to price games any lower on average than MS you really are reaching. Take a look at the shelves and see which company holds their pricing higher for longer. Guess what? It's Nintendo. Both Sony and MS have a great library of greatest hits titles for cheap. Nintendo has a few that are usually still $10 more than the other 2. Also, keep in mind that MS is only one publisher. Do you think EA is going to price games higher on the 360 than the PS3? Once again, lay off the glue friend.
Right, because we all know Sony is run by a nice Japanese family out of their little shop in Tokyo and Nintendo is a kindly old man that just likes making kids happy. They have no profit or market share motivations like Microsoft does. And Microsoft will go out it's way to make games that suck and to kick puppies.
Compare the production cost of a game that came out at the start of the last console cycle to the costs of making a game for the 360 or PS3. Then ask yourself how they would ever make any money at $10-12. Millions of people buy DVDs and the occasional game will sell over a million. BY far most sell maybe a few hundred thousand for a hit and less than 100,000 for a flop. Take out everyone's cut and look how much is left for the dev.
Well, since I'm married I don't give a crap about getting girls to like my games. My wife finished San Andreas before me so I have no worries there. Also, I like games where my ability to learn and improve has an impact on gameplay. Retro games are fun once in a while, but they are shallow. You want to sit there and play NES while I check out the new GTA go ahead.
Okay, you are really clueless on this one or just buying into the /. FUD. There has been NO offcial confirmation on HD-DVD at all. The only talk about it has been in reference to movie playback. So, even if they came out with an HD-DVD version down the road it would only be for movie content and not games.
Please explain how this "completely revolutionizes" mice. If this was released by anyone else most people would call it a gimmick.
Sure, this one isn't aimed directly at that market, but they are going for it with the XGP. And what I said still applies.
As I stated in my other post on this topic, there is no way a small relativley unknown (in North America) company can take on Nintendo or Sony without spending hundreds of millions on marketing and even then it might not happen. Sure there are people that use their PSP or DS for emulation, but just like modding Xboxes it's still a small fraction of total sales. And no you can't count people that hang out on /. because they are already far more tech savvy than most casual gamers.
Sorry, but if you don't have the marketing budget of Nintendo or Sony and the developers signed you aren't going to be anything more than a curiousity. Nintendo has the handheld market sewn up and only a player like Sony can afford to chip away at that. The roadway of portable gaming is littered with cool "also ran" devices.
We'll see. I'm not convinced that Blu-Ray is going to win. Even if it does come out the prefered format it will be years and years before it reaches any kind of real market penetration. I mean DVD has just caught on like wildfire in the last few years and that's taken a long time. Very few people are going to jump on the Blu-Ray wagon after investing in their DVD collection. Once HDTV is the standard these new formats will have a better chance of gaining ground.
Yes, but it's better to have it all in one device. I would be miffed if my DVD-ROM drive didn't read CDs.
Until I can buy shows a la carte and view them on my schedule I won't be signing up. This is really no different than regular cable TV.
The number of "average" consumers that have a clue when it comes to is pretty damn low. They were given a bullet point list and keeping in line with the usual tendencies they chose the one with the most bullet points and do you want to bet that Blu-Ray had the most bullet points? Back in the early days of word processors I had a conversation with a software distributor as to why Word was starting to outsell Wordperfect and he said Word had a bigger feature list on the back of the box. From that day forward I always paid attention to that aspect of marketing and he was right. People always assume more is better.
And not even all that good considering that Virtual Guitarist has been out for years and sounds better.
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The fact that its using a real guitar is mitigated by the fact that the playing sounds super mechanical.
Hey, it's a weekly Slashdot feature. Got to have at least one story that talks about how a unpatched Windows PC hooked directly to the net gets infected along with one story about Microsoft killing puppies somewhere in the world.
I highly doubt they would go door to door busting people that bought a mod chip and installed it themselves. This guy was making money off doing something that was illegal on more then one level. Don't try to slant it to make it appear that it was some kind of vendetta against modders.
Seriously, how big of a market is Norway? Also, are they just talking about Microsoft formats or others as well. Do they expect every company to either open their formats or switch to open formats for Norway alone?
Yup, always better to pick out a typo than actually address the issue.