"Should programmers be paid at all for their work?"
Or any class of worker at all. That is where that road leads.
How do you suggest a writer live? They should write because they love writing? Same for programmers/db/admins...... The question applies to your own job, you know.
You don't make much of a point there. The vast majority of people in IT or engineering don't fall under the category of creative or extremely bright either.
"I maintain that even the most junior engineer designing a headlight bezel for GM is working in a more creative capacity than any of the doctors at (say) the Kaiser-Permanente urgent care who spend all day mis-prescribing antibiotics."
That's client end. If the server is running the timesheet? You can dispute all you want, but if it's policy, they can charge you. Forget to turn off your hose and argue with the Water Dept.
I'll assume you were being funny, but respond seriously. The author made his contractual money on the first sale. Thereafter, you have an object being resold. This is in no way copyright theft nor 'screwing' the author.
Bzzzt!!! Wrongo. Lack of planning requires overtime. Well planned projects make deadline with no overtime. Worked in telcom for years and on many significant projects. Only those with gungho, planless yahoos require saving -- er, overtime.
You act as if the author hasn't sought out the publisher and willingly entered into a contract with them and then the publisher hasn't done the friggin' hard work of creating the physical item and distributing it to the bookshelves.
You also act as if the publisher wrests the copyright from the author (not so) and then will not print as many physical items as they can move out (not so).
By and large and once again, the argument boils down to "I don't want to pay more than my connection" for something. Buy the book in whatever manner the author would like you to if you really want to support the author.
... anyone who's worked in this industry knows that management can be ignorant, paranoid, and unwilling to change.
You bet. Anyone who's working in this industry also knows that some programmers think they're God's gift and know more the the entirety of the rest of the organization.
I care about keeping the business running.... Many queries were made and security operations attempted to track down who had made the "unauthorized script".
My take would be the bogus waste of time for the testers. Each known, introduced bug consumes resources that would go to actual testing. Add to that, it's not the programmer's responsibility to test QA, it's theirs to test him/her and if they find a shit load of bugs, he/her might start seeking employment for being a crappy programmer. And I sincerely doubt anyone will believe or be humored by the revelation they were purposefully introduced.
Yes they would. You used the term civilization before, not society.
"How about an advanced society of hunter gatherers?"
How about you describe what you might see an 'advanced' hunter/gatherer society looking like? It's a somewhat oxymoronic statement.
"How about a society made up of intelligent stars?"
You might want to drop that one if you want to be taken seriously. Straining the limits of credulity to support your argument (actually just a series of further questions, getting more radical) hurts your original question.
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"Should programmers be paid at all for their work?"
Or any class of worker at all. That is where that road leads.
How do you suggest a writer live? They should write because they love writing? Same for programmers/db/admins...... The question applies to your own job, you know.
"Should writers be paid at all for their work?"
Some rhetorical questions should not even be asked. This is one of them.
Lot of questions you ask of other people. The answers are very simple to find. Go to their web site and look.
So, by the results, the Dems own the machines?
those who perpetrated the recent Mortgage fiasco
That would be Congress.
"I guess she feels swindled, when in fact she was simply sold something different."
That's called bait and switch, and it's a swindle.
The smartest guy on Slashdot misuses 'then' three times in his first paragraph.
You don't make much of a point there. The vast majority of people in IT or engineering don't fall under the category of creative or extremely bright either.
"I maintain that even the most junior engineer designing a headlight bezel for GM is working in a more creative capacity than any of the doctors at (say) the Kaiser-Permanente urgent care who spend all day mis-prescribing antibiotics."
Horse... crap.
That's client end. If the server is running the timesheet? You can dispute all you want, but if it's policy, they can charge you. Forget to turn off your hose and argue with the Water Dept.
"Information/content/whatever is inherently free."
..." -- "I don't think the author saw much of those profits."
That is an opinion (or desire, actually), not a fact as you present it.
"... makes the bulk of profits (about 10-15 years)
You contradict your own point.
I'll assume you were being funny, but respond seriously. The author made his contractual money on the first sale. Thereafter, you have an object being resold. This is in no way copyright theft nor 'screwing' the author.
A "study in the 70s"? The same time period where they were predicting Global Freezing? Got a cite for that?
Bzzzt!!! Wrongo. Lack of planning requires overtime. Well planned projects make deadline with no overtime. Worked in telcom for years and on many significant projects. Only those with gungho, planless yahoos require saving -- er, overtime.
"Including what they do on their computer."
It's not their computer.
Summary -- "I don't want to pay for anything."
will just work in every browser you intend to support
"which will work everywhere but IE"
Reconcile please.
You mean that a single word, standing by itself cannot be used to denote punctuation? Bullshit.
You act as if the author hasn't sought out the publisher and willingly entered into a contract with them and then the publisher hasn't done the friggin' hard work of creating the physical item and distributing it to the bookshelves.
You also act as if the publisher wrests the copyright from the author (not so) and then will not print as many physical items as they can move out (not so).
By and large and once again, the argument boils down to "I don't want to pay more than my connection" for something. Buy the book in whatever manner the author would like you to if you really want to support the author.
Don't think so. Your inability to maintain the integrity of your possessions doesn't give you the right to free replacement.
Easy to see why you post AC.
From Amazon's site:
Buy a book and it is auto-delivered wirelessly in less than one minute.
It's obvious Amazon feels you are buying the book and if they say you are, you are.
Is it unethical to steal a second hand book?
It's theft. There's no further quibble about the ethics.
He's not distributing. I can photograph a painting I own and hang the pic on the wall. No problem. I cannot give it away or sell it.
Yeah, I'm a level seventy. So what?
... anyone who's worked in this industry knows that management can be ignorant, paranoid, and unwilling to change.
... Many queries were made and security operations attempted to track down who had made the "unauthorized script".
You bet. Anyone who's working in this industry also knows that some programmers think they're God's gift and know more the the entirety of the rest of the organization.
I care about keeping the business running.
Kinda contradictory.
My take would be the bogus waste of time for the testers. Each known, introduced bug consumes resources that would go to actual testing. Add to that, it's not the programmer's responsibility to test QA, it's theirs to test him/her and if they find a shit load of bugs, he/her might start seeking employment for being a crappy programmer. And I sincerely doubt anyone will believe or be humored by the revelation they were purposefully introduced.
Yes they would. You used the term civilization before, not society.
"How about an advanced society of hunter gatherers?"
How about you describe what you might see an 'advanced' hunter/gatherer society looking like? It's a somewhat oxymoronic statement.
"How about a society made up of intelligent stars?"
You might want to drop that one if you want to be taken seriously. Straining the limits of credulity to support your argument (actually just a series of further questions, getting more radical) hurts your original question.