What nobody (or at least, too few) in this country are doing is "thinking".
In a nation that is so self proclaiming of its freedom as ours is, nobody is EXERCISING that freedom to THINK. Nobody wonders why those people are willing to DIE HORRIBLY to kill a few of us. When you are cornered, and an omnipresent foe threatens to destroy your lifestyle and enslave you to a set of norms completely against everything you believe, do you not think you would take up a rifle or machete and fight "the man" ??
We don't ask "WHY?" we just react. And thus our country is less like an elite martial arts master, analyzing the situation and acting properly, we are more like the dumb gangbanger shooting up the sidewalk full of innocents to kill some other kid that might belong to another gang.
Our leaders know what they are doing. They allowed it to happen, knowing that most of us americans are among the most ignorant people alive... unquestioning in their mob, serf-like mentality. Coupled with nazi germany style rhetoric and we have a mob ready to murder anyone the leaders point to. Wham... war in a can, just add, uhhh... oil.
Look at our people... they are "defending freedom", how?? The very people sending them to die are the ones outsourcing their jobs to the countries we "free". But does anyone stop to question? What happens when china and japan STOP buying our horrendous national debt??
Bush is to the USA what Gorbachev was to USSR. Only our fall will be much nastier, because we will got from being HAVES to being have nots. Not from have nots to haves as the russians did. We keep "buying" cheap goods made in China, we keep listening to those Indian IT support people. We buy the cheapest. But like buying RAM and a motherboard go, buying cheap only pays off in the short run, farther down the road you end up paying for being cheap. (Compare a PC Chips vs a good solid board (tyan and serverworks come to mind).
We can prevent all this. We leave the arabs to reconquer their lands, and we're likely never going to hear from them again. Especially after we put alternative fuels and energy sources to work. We will be cutting their funding AND their anger by containing them instead of trying to convert them to christianity. As I recall it, Jerusalem managed to be a peaceful place when it was under Muslim rule, it was bloodiest while under Christian rule, and so it is with the rest of the Middle East.
who have ditched XP in favor of Gentoo... linux that is. Many have gone with Macs. I've used Server 2003. The moment you enable all the features you'd need anyways, you're right back to square 1. Most common users (lat. Redneckius Fatassus Couchpotatius) will not enjoy having to add sites, and will likely add the bad sites and phishing pharms to their allowed list anyways. And you're back to square 1.
If M$ marketting, executive and legal were to die off tomorrow, users would be forced to seek a sys admin or learn (or get a Mac, which is STILL a step up)... which means, there would be less idiots on the net. Its about the same as requesting that ALL drivers be forced to KNOW how to identify and check fluids, and ANY damage done by negligence should be charged triple at the repair shop (just imagine those head gaskets being charged to some idiot at triple rate!!) A law like that would mean that I would have to do LESS repairs on cars with damaged head gaskets because the user/driver "didn't think they had to check oil unless the 5000 mile marker was coming up, and why would he/she have to know that driving a high revving engine in 110 degree weather (fahrenheit) without ever checking fluids first, might damage their 5000.00 to 10000.00 USD (BMW) motor... who'd believe that, eh?"
Until people are made responsible and PAINFULLY so , about their rights, and consequences of not being PROACTIVE on their own, then nothing will change. People put off RISK onto others expecting that others will take care of it for them.
Its like prostate cancer for men and breastcancer for women. If you don't proactively check for it, then you deserve the painful death you get for not bothering to so much as get a damn 100 dollar checkup each year. (granted it is QUITE unpleasant for men, yet for women it can even be done at home before they even GO to the doctor).
Besides, its easy to afford it. All we american IT types have to do, is stop eating supersized meals and get water instead of fries and a soft drink (water's better for health and weight reasons anyways). You'd be amazed how quick you'll save the cash for that checkup (or for spare hardware for that BSD rig in the corner).
Same thing goes with STD's, if you sleep around, get a damn checkup. There's free clinic's everywhere so you don't have to get sharked for 199 per checkup at the regular doctor joint.
The problem with all of the above, is as the PT said, people in our country are LAZY LUSERS!! They need to get hurt badly before they'll learn... and in doing so, they will get those of us that are in the "non ignorant, non idiot" minority to pay the price with them.
Seriously, some of us don't go about it the way you do. I provide private email services to friends and family... that involves not having to constantly circumvent the crap others put in our way. Plus, this way, they don't have to worry. I won't sell them out to spammers, pharmers, phishers or ass monkeys at the M$ marketting department. In return they behave, or I can their asses if they send spam. (I also do a far better job of keeping them spam free and keeping their service running... FAST...)
The machine in question is a full smtpd/popd server... plus web. I don't approve of being blocked... how about if they BLOCK ONLY windows machines? since most inept morons run windows, and the rest run macs. This way my bsd and linux rigs are safe and sound, without someone else restricting MY access that I've paid for.
actually Road runner is one of the good isps out there... (I've heard good things about them in the past, but they don't service my area).
Service is crap in most places indeed, welcome to the windows generation... seems every place that switches to windows also hires low paid, uncaring employees and then periodically cycles them for being "unproductive"... is it a trend (or was that just a standard rhetorical question?)
in all honesty it just seems that there needs to be a seriously heavy form of control in place where huge companies are reduced in number and power... I don't see any other way in allowing small companies to do their thing (and when I lived in va, there used to be an ISP, a small startup called widomaker and a telco called cavalier... before they got big, their service was bar none... top notch, etc) (widomaker was a sunos/freebsd isp btw) Wido is still a mom and pop shop and does good service... cavalier, to my knowledge has declined for the last 2 or 3 years... guess its all those MCSE's hanging around providing "quality support".
will remove the app, unless of course you prefer to use emerge/unmerge and apt-get uninstallations:)
I haven't had too much cause to uninstall apps since I have a brain... I don't install crapware from the local marketplace. (And when I do, all I have to do is wipe them from the Wine subdirectories).
Or the GODS only know how much Foghorn will cost... errr... I mean longhorn.
I'm sure the screaming and gnashing of teeth from new micro$oft adoptees will be heard even on that misconfigured soundcard the above poster had... (I didn't know windows could configure exotics either... I recall having a turtle beach 6 speaker that worked BETTER in linux... and cost me half what the SB Live 5.1 did.)
But who am I to argue:) I may get this Linspire for my folks... if they need too much help with Suse or Ubuntu.
Then again... at least my parents are BSD users (and I mean command prompt, not gui).
Porn is actually one of the first adopters of web shopping carts. Perhaps you may not have noticed, but it was PORN that helped popularize popups (no sick jokes please)... everyone else in the "we want to rip your cash out through your ribcage" group has simply followed suit.
Porn was one of the primary leaders in the USAGE and therefore popularization of all the wonderful things that keep so many commercial IT companies in business... (spyware, shopping carts, online transactions, online trial malls, etc)
And for the record, I'm neither young, nor do I subscribe to porn (though in college it was a fun passtime on beerless weekends when the girls went home).
Why not vote libertarian and make some sort of difference instead of voting for the republikrats, who are both the same side of the same coin. Either of the two major parties just fight over the same bone, and still screw us out of our money and work... lets oust them and make a difference then?
(Bush or Kerry would've been equally bad... bush got us in this shit, might as well let the idiot run the gamut and fuck us completely till 2008, I pity the sucker that follows the moron, since he or she will be doing MASSIVE cleanup duty both economically and politically.)
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In regards to a cybercafe... I've war walked with a wireless PDA before, and I can promise you that it is VERY easy to steal bandwidth. This is the biggest concern. I can hook up my laptop and hang around in a parking lot or in a neighboring parkinglot and steal your shop's bandwidth. Not that I'll do it, but it CAN be done and WILL be done by some kid too unhappy with his parents keeping dialup or forcing him to watch christian videos instead of the kinky porn he wants to see. And if that kid has a wireless laptop, you're not going to stop him, not even with WEP.
Comcast was by far the worst, followed closely by verizon and as of late, by Cavalier's DSL service which is nearly as crappy. Best service I got in the area was speakeasy... but they've done me well no matter where I went. Cox was allright. My family still uses them for home cable/internet.
If cable providers could provide whta they call "business cable" (5mb down 256 up) without charging 229.99/mo I'd take it:)
And then there's that little issue with their DNS servers.... everyone ends up using their domain name provider's DNS servers or perhaps those of a local mom and pop ISP since they're generally more reliable. Of course this experience extends only to myself and my friends, and we all live on the east coast of the USA, with a minor few exceptions in canada, sweden and europe at large.
We don't get Time Warner here, and the telcos suck in the people service arena as badly as the cable co. I just got better service from the dsl people than I did from the cable people. We didn't get it from the V company you mentioned above (presuming you mean Verizon, and they SUCK!) we had it through Covad.
My personal favorite in recent months has been speakeasy... they cost a few dollars more, but damn do they deliver:)
And his fine weaponsatellite hacking skills... right?
And legions of slavering sales loving, lawsuit waving agents of evil will be crushed in one, orbital laser filled second... ahh... the wishful thinking... (too bad about the innocent 3 or 4 coders left that Google hasn't hired yet:)
I don't think you've heard... during my time at M$ partner #2, I routinely heard that M$ employees were jumping ship like crazy, and that when Google had a "by invitation" open house near M$'s redmond HQ, almost 100 M$ employees showed up uninvited looking for a job. (I think this particular story was run in Wired as recently as 2 or 3 months ago.)
Also, its common knowledge now that M$'s people receive questions such as "you're not going to google are you?" as part of their exit interviews (not official but the question seems to come up more and more).
If I were a regular customer, or if I didn't run my own personal DNS server, I do believe I'd have issues (I've been forced to use my DNS provider's servers to feed into my local server, worked miracles even when comcast's servers are kaput)... of course since I am no longer with them, running my own DNS server is mostly a matter of being prepared should the carrier's servers go down:)
I STILL had a max sustained rate upstream of 37 kbps:)
I have friends in northern VA and Wash. DC who get no better.
I've actually HAD comcast call me about running a server. I have called their help centers and it has taken me anywhere from 2 days to 3 weeks to get results. (and before you say it, I do not and DID NOT have an open relay running)
Plus, control of the system is VERY important. If I want to change something in the system, it is right in front of me. If I want to deny a user an account, then so be it. They can't sue me, they can't say anything... this is the whole point. And it is STILL cheaper, since I'd be using the DSL anyways.:)
My bandwidth tests with comcast always came back 5.1 MB down/28-37 KB up.
at best, you'll get the 37kbytes per sec sustained stream... of course, it will rarely be that, usually getting 27 to 28kbps in busy neighborhoods.
Add in the frequent DNS outages comcast had when I was a customer (and from what my buds in northern Virginia say, comcast still has them) I dare say I'll still take DSL over them... only issue I've ever had with DSL was that it took them awhile to reach the places where I've lived:)
Alexa IS spyware and it even comes with IE 6 SP2:)
Also, Dell's a microsoft partner. Perhaps M$ should keep a tighter leash on their high profile partners. And vice versa... of course this is highly unlikely in a country where nothing but the bottom dollar matters to the majority.:) And let's not beat around the bush, spyware and virus cleanup is the only reason a large majority of customer support companies are still in business...
39.99+all sorts of fees = 54.00 / mo cable does NOT allow me to run ANY servers, and block most of the default service ports for unix... (most still allow windows, but I'm not about to buy IIS to run a simple site on that huge clunking POS).
Of course if I manage to get around it by shifting ports around, they threaten to cut off my service if I do not disconnect the server within 5 days of being notified. (if it happens a second time, they DO cut off the service as they have done to me before)
In my book, DSL is still light years ahead of cable for what ***I*** need!
For browsing its a tad slow, but they don't have nearly as many DNS outages as the providers in my area.
Dell pcs ship with at least TWO pieces of known spyware that even MS Antispyware flags as critical.
And I'm talking about RECENT Dell optiplex and above... not some ancient POS like emachines or such. (which all ship with windows and spyware) and on the upside, explorer still comes with Alexa which IS known spyware.
Same reason the republikrats left microsoft alone and didn't bitchslap them into oblivion after they lost that fine lawsuit vs the antitrust laws that this same gov't set forth years and years ago. I guess signatures and justice aren't as important as corporate campaign funding and bribes. Long live Amerika. Boy are we fucked!!
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What nobody (or at least, too few) in this country are doing is "thinking".
In a nation that is so self proclaiming of its freedom as ours is, nobody is EXERCISING that freedom to THINK. Nobody wonders why those people are willing to DIE HORRIBLY to kill a few of us. When you are cornered, and an omnipresent foe threatens to destroy your lifestyle and enslave you to a set of norms completely against everything you believe, do you not think you would take up a rifle or machete and fight "the man" ??
We don't ask "WHY?" we just react. And thus our country is less like an elite martial arts master, analyzing the situation and acting properly, we are more like the dumb gangbanger shooting up the sidewalk full of innocents to kill some other kid that might belong to another gang.
Our leaders know what they are doing. They allowed it to happen, knowing that most of us americans are among the most ignorant people alive... unquestioning in their mob, serf-like mentality. Coupled with nazi germany style rhetoric and we have a mob ready to murder anyone the leaders point to. Wham... war in a can, just add, uhhh... oil.
Look at our people... they are "defending freedom", how?? The very people sending them to die are the ones outsourcing their jobs to the countries we "free". But does anyone stop to question? What happens when china and japan STOP buying our horrendous national debt??
Bush is to the USA what Gorbachev was to USSR. Only our fall will be much nastier, because we will got from being HAVES to being have nots. Not from have nots to haves as the russians did. We keep "buying" cheap goods made in China, we keep listening to those Indian IT support people. We buy the cheapest. But like buying RAM and a motherboard go, buying cheap only pays off in the short run, farther down the road you end up paying for being cheap. (Compare a PC Chips vs a good solid board (tyan and serverworks come to mind).
We can prevent all this. We leave the arabs to reconquer their lands, and we're likely never going to hear from them again. Especially after we put alternative fuels and energy sources to work. We will be cutting their funding AND their anger by containing them instead of trying to convert them to christianity. As I recall it, Jerusalem managed to be a peaceful place when it was under Muslim rule, it was bloodiest while under Christian rule, and so it is with the rest of the Middle East.
who have ditched XP in favor of Gentoo... linux that is. Many have gone with Macs. I've used Server 2003. The moment you enable all the features you'd need anyways, you're right back to square 1. Most common users (lat. Redneckius Fatassus Couchpotatius) will not enjoy having to add sites, and will likely add the bad sites and phishing pharms to their allowed list anyways. And you're back to square 1.
If M$ marketting, executive and legal were to die off tomorrow, users would be forced to seek a sys admin or learn (or get a Mac, which is STILL a step up)... which means, there would be less idiots on the net. Its about the same as requesting that ALL drivers be forced to KNOW how to identify and check fluids, and ANY damage done by negligence should be charged triple at the repair shop (just imagine those head gaskets being charged to some idiot at triple rate!!) A law like that would mean that I would have to do LESS repairs on cars with damaged head gaskets because the user/driver "didn't think they had to check oil unless the 5000 mile marker was coming up, and why would he/she have to know that driving a high revving engine in 110 degree weather (fahrenheit) without ever checking fluids first, might damage their 5000.00 to 10000.00 USD (BMW) motor... who'd believe that, eh?"
Until people are made responsible and PAINFULLY so , about their rights, and consequences of not being PROACTIVE on their own, then nothing will change. People put off RISK onto others expecting that others will take care of it for them.
Its like prostate cancer for men and breastcancer for women. If you don't proactively check for it, then you deserve the painful death you get for not bothering to so much as get a damn 100 dollar checkup each year. (granted it is QUITE unpleasant for men, yet for women it can even be done at home before they even GO to the doctor).
Besides, its easy to afford it. All we american IT types have to do, is stop eating supersized meals and get water instead of fries and a soft drink (water's better for health and weight reasons anyways). You'd be amazed how quick you'll save the cash for that checkup (or for spare hardware for that BSD rig in the corner).
Same thing goes with STD's, if you sleep around, get a damn checkup. There's free clinic's everywhere so you don't have to get sharked for 199 per checkup at the regular doctor joint.
The problem with all of the above, is as the PT said, people in our country are LAZY LUSERS!! They need to get hurt badly before they'll learn... and in doing so, they will get those of us that are in the "non ignorant, non idiot" minority to pay the price with them.
Seriously, some of us don't go about it the way you do. I provide private email services to friends and family... that involves not having to constantly circumvent the crap others put in our way. Plus, this way, they don't have to worry. I won't sell them out to spammers, pharmers, phishers or ass monkeys at the M$ marketting department. In return they behave, or I can their asses if they send spam. (I also do a far better job of keeping them spam free and keeping their service running... FAST...)
The machine in question is a full smtpd/popd server... plus web. I don't approve of being blocked... how about if they BLOCK ONLY windows machines? since most inept morons run windows, and the rest run macs. This way my bsd and linux rigs are safe and sound, without someone else restricting MY access that I've paid for.
actually Road runner is one of the good isps out there... (I've heard good things about them in the past, but they don't service my area).
Service is crap in most places indeed, welcome to the windows generation... seems every place that switches to windows also hires low paid, uncaring employees and then periodically cycles them for being "unproductive"... is it a trend (or was that just a standard rhetorical question?)
in all honesty it just seems that there needs to be a seriously heavy form of control in place where huge companies are reduced in number and power... I don't see any other way in allowing small companies to do their thing (and when I lived in va, there used to be an ISP, a small startup called widomaker and a telco called cavalier... before they got big, their service was bar none... top notch, etc) (widomaker was a sunos/freebsd isp btw) Wido is still a mom and pop shop and does good service... cavalier, to my knowledge has declined for the last 2 or 3 years... guess its all those MCSE's hanging around providing "quality support".
make uninstall
:)
will remove the app, unless of course you prefer to use emerge/unmerge and apt-get uninstallations
I haven't had too much cause to uninstall apps since I have a brain... I don't install crapware from the local marketplace. (And when I do, all I have to do is wipe them from the Wine subdirectories).
Or the GODS only know how much Foghorn will cost... errr... I mean longhorn.
:) I may get this Linspire for my folks... if they need too much help with Suse or Ubuntu.
I'm sure the screaming and gnashing of teeth from new micro$oft adoptees will be heard even on that misconfigured soundcard the above poster had... (I didn't know windows could configure exotics either... I recall having a turtle beach 6 speaker that worked BETTER in linux... and cost me half what the SB Live 5.1 did.)
But who am I to argue
Then again... at least my parents are BSD users (and I mean command prompt, not gui).
Porn is actually one of the first adopters of web shopping carts. Perhaps you may not have noticed, but it was PORN that helped popularize popups (no sick jokes please)... everyone else in the "we want to rip your cash out through your ribcage" group has simply followed suit.
Porn was one of the primary leaders in the USAGE and therefore popularization of all the wonderful things that keep so many commercial IT companies in business... (spyware, shopping carts, online transactions, online trial malls, etc)
And for the record, I'm neither young, nor do I subscribe to porn (though in college it was a fun passtime on beerless weekends when the girls went home).
Why not vote libertarian and make some sort of difference instead of voting for the republikrats, who are both the same side of the same coin. Either of the two major parties just fight over the same bone, and still screw us out of our money and work... lets oust them and make a difference then?
(Bush or Kerry would've been equally bad... bush got us in this shit, might as well let the idiot run the gamut and fuck us completely till 2008, I pity the sucker that follows the moron, since he or she will be doing MASSIVE cleanup duty both economically and politically.)
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In regards to a cybercafe... I've war walked with a wireless PDA before, and I can promise you that it is VERY easy to steal bandwidth. This is the biggest concern. I can hook up my laptop and hang around in a parking lot or in a neighboring parkinglot and steal your shop's bandwidth. Not that I'll do it, but it CAN be done and WILL be done by some kid too unhappy with his parents keeping dialup or forcing him to watch christian videos instead of the kinky porn he wants to see. And if that kid has a wireless laptop, you're not going to stop him, not even with WEP.
Comcast was by far the worst, followed closely by verizon and as of late, by Cavalier's DSL service which is nearly as crappy. Best service I got in the area was speakeasy... but they've done me well no matter where I went. Cox was allright. My family still uses them for home cable/internet.
Alexa still came up on Adaware SE... check it and let me know if it still does :)
If cable providers could provide whta they call "business cable" (5mb down 256 up) without charging 229.99/mo I'd take it :)
And then there's that little issue with their DNS servers.... everyone ends up using their domain name provider's DNS servers or perhaps those of a local mom and pop ISP since they're generally more reliable. Of course this experience extends only to myself and my friends, and we all live on the east coast of the USA, with a minor few exceptions in canada, sweden and europe at large.
We don't get Time Warner here, and the telcos suck in the people service arena as badly as the cable co. I just got better service from the dsl people than I did from the cable people. We didn't get it from the V company you mentioned above (presuming you mean Verizon, and they SUCK!) we had it through Covad.
:)
My personal favorite in recent months has been speakeasy... they cost a few dollars more, but damn do they deliver
And his fine weaponsatellite hacking skills... right?
:)
And legions of slavering sales loving, lawsuit waving agents of evil will be crushed in one, orbital laser filled second... ahh... the wishful thinking... (too bad about the innocent 3 or 4 coders left that Google hasn't hired yet
Maybe Pitr should wait another day or 4?
I don't think you've heard... during my time at M$ partner #2, I routinely heard that M$ employees were jumping ship like crazy, and that when Google had a "by invitation" open house near M$'s redmond HQ, almost 100 M$ employees showed up uninvited looking for a job. (I think this particular story was run in Wired as recently as 2 or 3 months ago.)
Also, its common knowledge now that M$'s people receive questions such as "you're not going to google are you?" as part of their exit interviews (not official but the question seems to come up more and more).
and further north still than my buds in VA :)
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If I were a regular customer, or if I didn't run my own personal DNS server, I do believe I'd have issues (I've been forced to use my DNS provider's servers to feed into my local server, worked miracles even when comcast's servers are kaput)... of course since I am no longer with them, running my own DNS server is mostly a matter of being prepared should the carrier's servers go down :)
I STILL had a max sustained rate upstream of 37 kbps :)
:)
I have friends in northern VA and Wash. DC who get no better.
I've actually HAD comcast call me about running a server. I have called their help centers and it has taken me anywhere from 2 days to 3 weeks to get results. (and before you say it, I do not and DID NOT have an open relay running)
Plus, control of the system is VERY important. If I want to change something in the system, it is right in front of me. If I want to deny a user an account, then so be it. They can't sue me, they can't say anything... this is the whole point. And it is STILL cheaper, since I'd be using the DSL anyways.
My bandwidth tests with comcast always came back 5.1 MB down/28-37 KB up.
at best, you'll get the 37kbytes per sec sustained stream... of course, it will rarely be that, usually getting 27 to 28kbps in busy neighborhoods.
:)
Add in the frequent DNS outages comcast had when I was a customer (and from what my buds in northern Virginia say, comcast still has them) I dare say I'll still take DSL over them... only issue I've ever had with DSL was that it took them awhile to reach the places where I've lived
Alexa IS spyware and it even comes with IE 6 SP2 :)
:) And let's not beat around the bush, spyware and virus cleanup is the only reason a large majority of customer support companies are still in business...
Also, Dell's a microsoft partner. Perhaps M$ should keep a tighter leash on their high profile partners. And vice versa... of course this is highly unlikely in a country where nothing but the bottom dollar matters to the majority.
For browsing its a tad slow, but they don't have nearly as many DNS outages as the providers in my area.
I meant to say that DSL is slower than cable for downloading purposes, and instead of "providers" substitute "cable providers in my area".
I can run a server on 29.99/mo DSL...
39.99+all sorts of fees = 54.00 / mo cable does NOT allow me to run ANY servers, and block most of the default service ports for unix... (most still allow windows, but I'm not about to buy IIS to run a simple site on that huge clunking POS).
Of course if I manage to get around it by shifting ports around, they threaten to cut off my service if I do not disconnect the server within 5 days of being notified. (if it happens a second time, they DO cut off the service as they have done to me before)
In my book, DSL is still light years ahead of cable for what ***I*** need!
For browsing its a tad slow, but they don't have nearly as many DNS outages as the providers in my area.
Dell pcs ship with at least TWO pieces of known spyware that even MS Antispyware flags as critical.
And I'm talking about RECENT Dell optiplex and above... not some ancient POS like emachines or such. (which all ship with windows and spyware) and on the upside, explorer still comes with Alexa which IS known spyware.
Same reason the republikrats left microsoft alone and didn't bitchslap them into oblivion after they lost that fine lawsuit vs the antitrust laws that this same gov't set forth years and years ago. I guess signatures and justice aren't as important as corporate campaign funding and bribes. Long live Amerika. Boy are we fucked!!