It's good to see this finally happening... it's quite sad however it didnt happen a couple years ago with Gateway and Amiga... Thanks a million microsoft for talking them out of it >:[... i used to have a commodore amiga 500 and 2000.... those were WONDERFUL machines. the IBM bridgeboard i had would run IBM things faster than an IBM would run them at the time...
*sniffle*
But in any case, it's a real nice thing to see this all going in that direction...
i know, that's whay i was acknowledging. But right after it happened, they all but dismissed that that was even a possibiliy of the problem. and now they say that that is what it was after all. kinda interesting...
It's interesting that the first thing they said about it was that there was only a tiny chance that the foam had anything to do with it. It's weird how things turn around like that.
I think the bottom line behind all this is most likely money. They have cut so many budgets as far as space goes and forced them to do fewer and fewer pre-flight inspections that something like this was almost guaranteed.
"Confidential interviews with shuttle workers at NASA and its contractors, 'from line technicians all the way through management', found no one who believed that preflight safety inspections were adequate, a member of the independent board investigating the loss of the Columbia has said." Linkage (and more of the same): http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/05/29/10541776 72378.html
It's sad that it had to come to something like this for a wakeup call to be heard, but i guess all they can get out of it is to be more careful and not let it happen again. what else can ya get i guess...:-/
why shouldnt the gov't be involved? there's nothing civil about it. it's theft. sometimes petty theft, more often than not, it's grand theft.
And i do agree with your second point. The gov't shoudl put a stop to that behaivior. (ie: sco again)
true the legal system wasnt made for the profit of people but it WAS put in place to protect peoples profits that were already there...in this case, the RIAA's
It's really about time that people started standing up to the RIAA. Quite frankly, i think if you are illegally stealing files you deserve what comes to you. it's against the law to steal music. just because you're allowed to use the file sharing clients doesnt mean it's ok to steal music with them.
HOWEVER, the RIAA is simply out of control. they are sueing people without any grounds other than their own greed. ( ie: www.chewplastic.com ) I say screw the copyright associations and give the money back to the artists that MAKE THE MONEY IN THE FIRST PLACE. i say screw the RIAA, and if need be, punish the people who are breaking the law via file sharing. it's still illegal to steal music/movies, etc... but i think the gov't should be controlling the punishment for such crimes, not the sueing of some rediculous ego-pimped company who things they own the world....
It's pretty sad that soeone has to release a worm to clean up a mess microsoft couldn't... sounds like microsoft needs to hire a certain someone to me...
heh we're probably going to buy a book or two here at work.
the problem with snort is not getting it installed and up and running. we even have scripts running that e-mail out the daily (and then a monthly compilation) logs of snort detections and then archive the old ones and junk. (rvennell@dbu.edu if you want them) thats the easy part. the hard part is getting everything up and running and then being able to decode :
[**] [1:485:2] ICMP Destination Unreachable (Communication Administratively Prohibited) [**]
[Classification: Misc activity] [Priority: 3]
07/31-10:09:33.337662 148.223.223.41 -> 10.1.1.67
ICMP TTL:240 TOS:0x0 ID:25562 IpLen:20 DgmLen:56
Type:3 Code:13 DESTINATION UNREACHABLE: ADMINISTRATIVELY PROHIBITED,
PACKET FILTERED
** ORIGINAL DATAGRAM DUMP:
10.1.1.67:7700 -> 159.16.131.56:59859
TCP TTL:113 TOS:0x0 ID:52194 IpLen:20 DgmLen:52
Seq: 0xE9B061C5 Ack: 0x0
** END OF DUMP
And how does one stop the aformentioned from happening if it happens to be bad?
ya need to book to know what to do with the output....setup is nothing...
lol well said my friend.... half of our servers here run on things that cost us....nothing. the things that run on the software we paid for generally have more problems as well...
i think it's a great idea personally. open source projects as it is are typically very low, to no income projects and would be able to produce an even higher level of software quality if they sould really employ teams of more talented software developers to work due to the gov't help. sounds like a win-win situation to me.
most likely running redhat as well seeing as the founder of redhat is one of their chief investors... Try a real flavor like gentoo... redhat = miniVole
the more gentoo the better. in my experiences with it so far, it's been the best dang linux strain i've ever seen... it impressed me and i'm pretty hard to impress:)
hmmmm, i think that you have issues. I think they're all probably thinking the same thing about you, and in their case, they're probably right....
P.S.- i think we shoudl sue the U.S. gov't because there's illegal aliens in here... *rolls eyes*
Thats like Arizona Jeans sueing JCPenny because someone posted something bad on some forums about their "Arizona Jeans they just bought at JCPenny."
Rediculous....
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It's good to see this finally happening... it's quite sad however it didnt happen a couple years ago with Gateway and Amiga... Thanks a million microsoft for talking them out of it >:[... i used to have a commodore amiga 500 and 2000.... those were WONDERFUL machines. the IBM bridgeboard i had would run IBM things faster than an IBM would run them at the time...
*sniffle*
But in any case, it's a real nice thing to see this all going in that direction...
lol, thats exactly what i do as well... i just find an old mobo or box and plug them in....
i know, that's whay i was acknowledging. But right after it happened, they all but dismissed that that was even a possibiliy of the problem. and now they say that that is what it was after all. kinda interesting...
It's interesting that the first thing they said about it was that there was only a tiny chance that the foam had anything to do with it. It's weird how things turn around like that.
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:-/
I think the bottom line behind all this is most likely money. They have cut so many budgets as far as space goes and forced them to do fewer and fewer pre-flight inspections that something like this was almost guaranteed.
"Confidential interviews with shuttle workers at NASA and its contractors, 'from line technicians all the way through management', found no one who believed that preflight safety inspections were adequate, a member of the independent board investigating the loss of the Columbia has said." Linkage (and more of the same): http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/05/29/1054177
It's sad that it had to come to something like this for a wakeup call to be heard, but i guess all they can get out of it is to be more careful and not let it happen again. what else can ya get i guess...
yeah the moron count on here seems extra high today. same crap for my post as well...
i think someone sould modify a snort installation on here to sniff out idiocy instead of intrusion attempts
great, post a joke and get a -1 for it....just great... >:[
very nice...
;)
it's time to upgrade today.
heh, i think we all wish M$ would release a "stable" version of their kernel... but, i guess i'm living in a dream world here, huh?
as far as SCO goes, they have no proof. the RIAA does... SCO refuses to show their "proof", the RIAA throws it at you
why shouldnt the gov't be involved? there's nothing civil about it. it's theft. sometimes petty theft, more often than not, it's grand theft. And i do agree with your second point. The gov't shoudl put a stop to that behaivior. (ie: sco again) true the legal system wasnt made for the profit of people but it WAS put in place to protect peoples profits that were already there...in this case, the RIAA's
It's really about time that people started standing up to the RIAA. Quite frankly, i think if you are illegally stealing files you deserve what comes to you. it's against the law to steal music. just because you're allowed to use the file sharing clients doesnt mean it's ok to steal music with them.
HOWEVER, the RIAA is simply out of control. they are sueing people without any grounds other than their own greed. ( ie: www.chewplastic.com ) I say screw the copyright associations and give the money back to the artists that MAKE THE MONEY IN THE FIRST PLACE. i say screw the RIAA, and if need be, punish the people who are breaking the law via file sharing. it's still illegal to steal music/movies, etc... but i think the gov't should be controlling the punishment for such crimes, not the sueing of some rediculous ego-pimped company who things they own the world....
kinda reminds you SCO, no?
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It's pretty sad that soeone has to release a worm to clean up a mess microsoft couldn't... sounds like microsoft needs to hire a certain someone to me...
Next up is a virtual reality display that you can build using only a pair of tweezers, a toaster, tin foil and a blender.....
heh we're probably going to buy a book or two here at work. the problem with snort is not getting it installed and up and running. we even have scripts running that e-mail out the daily (and then a monthly compilation) logs of snort detections and then archive the old ones and junk. (rvennell@dbu.edu if you want them) thats the easy part. the hard part is getting everything up and running and then being able to decode : [**] [1:485:2] ICMP Destination Unreachable (Communication Administratively Prohibited) [**] [Classification: Misc activity] [Priority: 3] 07/31-10:09:33.337662 148.223.223.41 -> 10.1.1.67 ICMP TTL:240 TOS:0x0 ID:25562 IpLen:20 DgmLen:56 Type:3 Code:13 DESTINATION UNREACHABLE: ADMINISTRATIVELY PROHIBITED, PACKET FILTERED ** ORIGINAL DATAGRAM DUMP: 10.1.1.67:7700 -> 159.16.131.56:59859 TCP TTL:113 TOS:0x0 ID:52194 IpLen:20 DgmLen:52 Seq: 0xE9B061C5 Ack: 0x0 ** END OF DUMP And how does one stop the aformentioned from happening if it happens to be bad? ya need to book to know what to do with the output....setup is nothing...
lol well said my friend.... half of our servers here run on things that cost us....nothing. the things that run on the software we paid for generally have more problems as well...
i think it's a great idea personally. open source projects as it is are typically very low, to no income projects and would be able to produce an even higher level of software quality if they sould really employ teams of more talented software developers to work due to the gov't help. sounds like a win-win situation to me.
i've been hoping SOMETHING would catch on with this... it's a move that's been needing some help for a while now...
most likely running redhat as well seeing as the founder of redhat is one of their chief investors... Try a real flavor like gentoo... redhat = miniVole
the more gentoo the better. in my experiences with it so far, it's been the best dang linux strain i've ever seen... it impressed me and i'm pretty hard to impress :)
no doubt powered by gentoo :) (at least it'd better be...)
hmmmm, i think that you have issues. I think they're all probably thinking the same thing about you, and in their case, they're probably right.... P.S.- i think we shoudl sue the U.S. gov't because there's illegal aliens in here... *rolls eyes*
Thats like Arizona Jeans sueing JCPenny because someone posted something bad on some forums about their "Arizona Jeans they just bought at JCPenny." Rediculous....