Shoot, I ran a fully dynamic website with the mySQL database server on the same machine using a Pentium 233 (admittedly running a rather stripped down GNU/Linux) without any problems. For what you're talking about doing, go for a slower CPU and maybe 512mb - 1 gig of RAM./maybe/ do the RAID - depends on how much use you expect the server to encounter on a single page at a time. Personally, I'd go with fast IDE or SCSI and just work from two or three hard drives, splitting the load across them. In most cases, that'll probably give you a real performance similar to RAID mirroring without having to pay the hundreds or thousands of extra bucks for the RAID controller and duplicate hard drives.
For what you're talking, I couldn't imagine you'd need anything more powerful than a P3. Most anything you'll be able to buy new will easily be overkill.
But your 1ghz Athlon is less than three years old. The Macs we're talking about are still usable six, eight, ten years after they're introduced. Come back in three years and tell me if you're still comfortable on that 1ghz Athlon.
Heck, I put down the PC laptop from 1998 to write my thesis on a Powerbook 540c from 1994.
That's the painful part about Macs. They keep putting out these machines with a high drool factor that you just have to buy, but the old one is still more than adequate. What to do, what to do. . . .
I gotta say, when some of my friends organized a wet T-shirt contest with the proceeds benefitting some ecofeminist organization, a lot of people showed up.
I can already see how PETA would protest this stunt: Scores of women show up to Wimbledon wearing nothing but spraypainted slogans such as, "Spraypainting pigeons is cruel." and "Brand me, not animals!"
I think we're still at the "show me the diff you stupid stiff" stage.
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Thankfully, HERF guns are not illegal (yet), and I'm sure it wouldn't be too difficult to get one that's just perfect for disabling car amps or subwoofers or something like that.
Nice clean interface - in fact, it has the only Drag'nDrop GUI I've ever seen that I would be willing to call uncluttered. Amazing API (if you program). All sorts of tiny little details that you can't really put your finger on
I like BeOS because, in my opinion, it is well-concieved. It has all sorts of problems with drivers and application support, but then again that's how every OS starts out. BeOS had something that can't be added later - generally well-thought-out design. You can't add that in as an afterthought.
It seems like if you are currently under trial for illegal business practises, you wouldn't be saying stuff to the effect of, "Well, if you think that the client is doing crazy stuff, you should check out the servers! That's where all the real magic is!" I also liked the ending quip about valid business models. Nowadays, people get shot for saying things like that. . .
I can think of some more reasons why they'd want to write their own:
1) Mesa is SLOW. REALLY SLOW. It's fine as far as general purpose 3D rasterizers go, but it's not nearly up to par for gaming. (Just try playing Tux Racer without DRI. I dare you.) 2) ID likes using OpenGL for their 3D cards because they like to release on multiple platforms. However, their software rasterizers have always been homebuilt. I'm sure part of this is that the rasterizer can be customized for the game. Given that the guy who wrote this one, Michael Abrash, is the same guy who wrote the graphics engine for Quake, I'm sure that is still the case.
Ditto. My desktop has a nice P3, but the vidcard is a Voodoo3, which won't cut it for most modern games since it's a 16bit video card.
However, I'm not going to upgrade my card just so I can play more games. I realize a decent GeForce or Radeon is only 40bucksblahblahblahblahblah. Whatever. I don't particularly care about supernice graphics in my games (I still prefer Quake to Q3) Even I were willing to buy a card, I'd want to play the demo before I buy the game, and I am sure as hell not going to buy a video card just so I can play a demo.
Hmm. . if they're CHRP, than doesn't that make the whole comment about not needing an Apple BIOS to run OS X become wrong? I mean, first, Apple computers don't have a BIOS, they have OpenFirmware. Second, the CHRP specification requires computers to boot using OpenFirmware. Sounds like it's probably using pretty much the same boot process to me.
Electric vehicles have been banned from the drag strip in my town because some guy rigged together a battery powered car that started out being ridiculously fast compared to all the other cars there, and just kept getting faster every time he refined it.
The point about efficiency rather than performance is the crux of the situation. The truth is, although many alternative fuel vehicles may be cleaner while you drive them, their energy efficiency tends to be about the same if you make them as fast as a normal car. This makes it self-defeating to make them fast. Besides, the target market for alternative fuel vehicles is largely the group of people who buy Geo Prizms for the 44mpg and don't give a damn that it's a Geo - they probably don't care that the AF car is slow, either.
For NEV, as well as their older and more practical predecessors (bicycles), to become popularized as an alternative transportation method, cities are going to have to start paving bike lanes into their streets. Right now, it's just too frickin' dangerous to ride a bike (or NEV) because most the cars aren't watching for you, many of them try to squeeze around you so close I'm amazed the side-view mirrors don't hit me every time, and a few of them actually swerve to hit (Not exaggerating. Quite a few cyclists die because of this every year in the USA.)
It's the American Way. (The American Way apparently consists of lots of violence along with minimal sex.;)
Interesting. . . I wonder if the latter were the cause of the former. Like if G.W. hadn't coked himself impotent, maybe he wouldn't be trying so hard to start WWIII right now. . .
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Shoot, I ran a fully dynamic website with the mySQL database server on the same machine using a Pentium 233 (admittedly running a rather stripped down GNU/Linux) without any problems. For what you're talking about doing, go for a slower CPU and maybe 512mb - 1 gig of RAM. /maybe/ do the RAID - depends on how much use you expect the server to encounter on a single page at a time. Personally, I'd go with fast IDE or SCSI and just work from two or three hard drives, splitting the load across them. In most cases, that'll probably give you a real performance similar to RAID mirroring without having to pay the hundreds or thousands of extra bucks for the RAID controller and duplicate hard drives.
For what you're talking, I couldn't imagine you'd need anything more powerful than a P3. Most anything you'll be able to buy new will easily be overkill.
But your 1ghz Athlon is less than three years old. The Macs we're talking about are still usable six, eight, ten years after they're introduced. Come back in three years and tell me if you're still comfortable on that 1ghz Athlon.
Heck, I put down the PC laptop from 1998 to write my thesis on a Powerbook 540c from 1994.
That's the painful part about Macs. They keep putting out these machines with a high drool factor that you just have to buy, but the old one is still more than adequate. What to do, what to do. . . .
I gotta say, when some of my friends organized a wet T-shirt contest with the proceeds benefitting some ecofeminist organization, a lot of people showed up.
I can already see how PETA would protest this stunt: Scores of women show up to Wimbledon wearing nothing but spraypainted slogans such as, "Spraypainting pigeons is cruel." and "Brand me, not animals!"
I think we're still at the "show me the diff you stupid stiff" stage.
Thankfully, HERF guns are not illegal (yet), and I'm sure it wouldn't be too difficult to get one that's just perfect for disabling car amps or subwoofers or something like that.
Nice clean interface - in fact, it has the only Drag'nDrop GUI I've ever seen that I would be willing to call uncluttered. Amazing API (if you program). All sorts of tiny little details that you can't really put your finger on
I like BeOS because, in my opinion, it is well-concieved. It has all sorts of problems with drivers and application support, but then again that's how every OS starts out. BeOS had something that can't be added later - generally well-thought-out design. You can't add that in as an afterthought.
But thanks for biting. Pulling off a troll with such obvious bait gives me the self-esteem boost I need to make it possible for me to face each day.
Arright, smart guy. What about the W?
Arright, so what the fsck does the V stand for?
Especially when you try to pronounce it.
I've heard attempts at putting every imaginable vowel sound between the letters in FVWM, and never with good results.
Yes. Thanks to movie piracy, the film industry is only making billions of dollars instead of billions and billions of dollars.
(All due respect to Matt Groening.)
It seems like if you are currently under trial for illegal business practises, you wouldn't be saying stuff to the effect of, "Well, if you think that the client is doing crazy stuff, you should check out the servers! That's where all the real magic is!" I also liked the ending quip about valid business models. Nowadays, people get shot for saying things like that. . .
Umm. . maybe because it'd fall over pretty easily and it's easy to get a weapon under a robot on legs?
I can think of some more reasons why they'd want to write their own:
1) Mesa is SLOW. REALLY SLOW. It's fine as far as general purpose 3D rasterizers go, but it's not nearly up to par for gaming. (Just try playing Tux Racer without DRI. I dare you.)
2) ID likes using OpenGL for their 3D cards because they like to release on multiple platforms. However, their software rasterizers have always been homebuilt. I'm sure part of this is that the rasterizer can be customized for the game. Given that the guy who wrote this one, Michael Abrash, is the same guy who wrote the graphics engine for Quake, I'm sure that is still the case.
Ditto. My desktop has a nice P3, but the vidcard is a Voodoo3, which won't cut it for most modern games since it's a 16bit video card.
However, I'm not going to upgrade my card just so I can play more games. I realize a decent GeForce or Radeon is only 40bucksblahblahblahblahblah. Whatever. I don't particularly care about supernice graphics in my games (I still prefer Quake to Q3) Even I were willing to buy a card, I'd want to play the demo before I buy the game, and I am sure as hell not going to buy a video card just so I can play a demo.
I'd be surprised if you could even fit an xbox in your car. I know I can't.
Hmm. . if they're CHRP, than doesn't that make the whole comment about not needing an Apple BIOS to run OS X become wrong? I mean, first, Apple computers don't have a BIOS, they have OpenFirmware. Second, the CHRP specification requires computers to boot using OpenFirmware. Sounds like it's probably using pretty much the same boot process to me.
(sorry no body parts used for measurements on this side of the pond)
Fine with me. I'd rather have 20m than 20 yards, anyway.
I imagine that MicroDrives consume very little power due to their small size and the fact that they can be powered by a PCMCIA slot.
I'm sure the hard drives used in many MP3 players such as iPods also consume very little power. . .
Electric vehicles have been banned from the drag strip in my town because some guy rigged together a battery powered car that started out being ridiculously fast compared to all the other cars there, and just kept getting faster every time he refined it.
The point about efficiency rather than performance is the crux of the situation. The truth is, although many alternative fuel vehicles may be cleaner while you drive them, their energy efficiency tends to be about the same if you make them as fast as a normal car. This makes it self-defeating to make them fast. Besides, the target market for alternative fuel vehicles is largely the group of people who buy Geo Prizms for the 44mpg and don't give a damn that it's a Geo - they probably don't care that the AF car is slow, either.
For NEV, as well as their older and more practical predecessors (bicycles), to become popularized as an alternative transportation method, cities are going to have to start paving bike lanes into their streets. Right now, it's just too frickin' dangerous to ride a bike (or NEV) because most the cars aren't watching for you, many of them try to squeeze around you so close I'm amazed the side-view mirrors don't hit me every time, and a few of them actually swerve to hit (Not exaggerating. Quite a few cyclists die because of this every year in the USA.)
It's the American Way. (The American Way apparently consists of lots of violence along with minimal sex.;)
Interesting. . . I wonder if the latter were the cause of the former. Like if G.W. hadn't coked himself impotent, maybe he wouldn't be trying so hard to start WWIII right now. . .
and try an 'emerge -b ut2006'
duh.