We live in a world where literally yesterday a woman was stoned to death by her family for failing to live her life they way they wanted.
This was a USA incident that some would say implicates western civilization so, let's talk about something that's actually relevant, ok? Approximately 45 murders occurred in the USA yesterday. Approximately, 76% of the victims had penises. Please advise me on which class of the human animal is more vulnerable in Western civilization.
There is literally no way to win as a woman
Rational Moe would like to point you towards THE OATMEAL so that any writings you may do on the web or elsewhere will not be infected by your misuse of the English language. But Irrational Moe..... fuck you, you're fucking stupid, pathetic, and your thoughts are unforgivabley naive and sexist. You are, obviously, not a nerd. You are a vapid twit with a sinkhole between your legs. Go find your nearest porno shop, buy a dildo, stuff it up next to your cervix, and stop leaking your pussy juice all over slashdot.
Ok, Moe is back and, rabtech, I submit that your poor parents did not do a good job providing you with an education.
As a certified expert in producing childish dribble, there was absolutely nothing childish about the comments of the parent poster.
"The whole point is women can't know a-priori who the good guys are and the penalty is being raped or killed."
My rebuttal is that 99.999999999999999999999999% of women in any interaction with any male do not end up dead or raped. Probably a billion more nines ought to added after the decimal but I'm sure even your damaged socialist brain sees the point.
"Do you honestly even give a second thought to someone punching you in the face or stabbing you at a conference?"
You mean like what happenned to Tyler Durden, himself, today?
Here's what rational Moe sees. The parent poster is advocating personal responsibility. You are disparaging that concept. This automatically disqualifies you from being remotely correct. That is, you are incorrect by about as much distance as there is between the Milky Way and Andromeda.
Irrational Moe would like to tell you to fucking kill yourself as you are, in fact, part of the problem here.
You can give your money away much more intelligently than the government can.
Are you fucking kidding? Since we're dealing with platitudes, let's try this one, you think Joe the Plumber can do anything better than the government? That dude is a fucken moron and so are the thousands of people like him. Just because you "can" do it, doesn't mean it will be done. To believe in such nonsense is a fuckin farce, douche.
but merely that pure financial logic cannot reasonably be used as justification apart from any other considerations
Sure it can. If my budget is 30k US for a new car, then purchasing a Prius (for instance) over any other choice saves money because it gets better gas mileage. Perhaps the commoners who can only spend 20k US for a new car need to use your retarded calculus.
OR perhaps you should rephrase your long winded elaboration. Don't buy a Prius if you can't afford it because it is possible that gas prices might not offset the initial premium that you will pay for one.
Please stop spreading misinformation. You should read http://bankdeals.blogspot.com/ before you post about money again. I can (and do) get 5% on 100 bucks easy as pie. Idiot. You're doing it wrong.
"I've always felt that in a security course, the students should study past successful attacks and try to learn what techniques could have foiled the attack that wouldn't have required any knowledge unavailable to the attackee before the attack. Concentrating on the specifics of the attack instead of the specifics of the defense is not productive."
Thanks for the advice Mr. Miyagi..... wax on, wax off, paint the fence. Banzai!!!!!
.... I mean we are talking about ALABAMA here. I'd wager that it would be exceptionally hard to find a bigger pool of retards in the nation. I have vivid dreams (that never end well) of the American Southeast and Brawndo the Thirst Mutilitor...... yuck.
Apparently his proof was published last September. It's "news" because it's just now hitting the semi-mainstream press. You people fail at nerddom.
Well, considering it took 10 years for anyone to really read and appreciate the work of Evariste Galois, I would say you don't deserve the mod points and need to step away from the slashdot groupthink.
There is nothing inherently wrong with FTP. To use your mail analogy, forcing your customers to use encryption to send a postcard is a little ridiculous, don't you thing?
Oh, just stop. He called you on your ridiculosity, so just walk away. You're just making yourself look like an ass. If you wanted your point to be Wikipedia is easier to get information out of., then you should have just said that. Instead you dressed it up with all this Flash FLASH flash WIKI wiKI wiki flash, oops I pooped my pants, wiki Flash, nonsense. Ironically, you've dressed your point up such that you might have well used FLASH to make a cartoon that explains your point. GOD.
What do you do, follow me around and make jabs at my posts?:)
Touche. And spoken like someone who has a very high opinion of themselves.;)
The ironic thing is that you may be preaching to the choir, for I also think the current model of university education is outdated and inefficient - something I'm actively trying to change, though perhaps not in the same way you envision.
I'll give you 3 suggestions. All serious, in their own way. First and foremost, there must be hot chicks involved in your project in order for it to succeed. I'm serious. Hot chicks help everything including themselves and the more you have, the more likely your project is to succeed.
Second, from the standpoint of undergraduate engineering education, there is too much math, far too little "insert mother tongue here - usually english" and foreign language study, and too much science is crammed into too little time. Remedy this and you will have more and better engineers. It should be possible to leverage the power of the computer to develop a new kind of engineering education that focuses humanity on what they are innately most qualified to do, communicate and command, and not necessarily on hard mathematics. For most people, the ability to communicate clearly defines their level of success in life. In engineering, at least, it is truly rare to find someone's success bound by their ability to solve, say, differential equations. Unfortunately, not receiving an engineering education at college is a kind of like burning 100 dollar bills, in that, there is very little ROI on, for example, a major in art history. Although it has been my experience, that the art history major is, in general, much more qualified to compose a coherant email, something that most people do far more often during their working life, than any kind of math at all. (I'd also wager that they are likely far more qualified to do the most important thing that people do, raise children, than any engineer. But that is neither here nor there. Moving on....) That is perhaps the biggest disservice of an engineering higher education to the aspiring polymath. It doesn't prepare you well to be anything other than a calculating machine. And, ironically, we've built calculating machines that are better and more accurate than any human. And yet we persist....
Third, educational technology is the key to better educaiton..... after hot chicks, of course. But really, the challenge is to leverage everyday interests into opportunities for learning. For instance, I know tons of people who love cars. I know tons of people who love guns. I know of very few educational opportunities that leverage these interests. Perhaps it is because it is too expensive and dangerous to give little Johnny a car and gun to take apart..... Wait, I know of this tool that is very inexpensive and good at presenting immersive environments for entertainment, what's it called..... oh yeah, the computer, a device whose unmatched ability to provide immersive entertianment could also provide the ultimate educational toolset.
That said, neither my BS or MS, nor my Ph. D. when I attain it, are worthless. The universities may not be prestigious and the degrees alone may not mean much, but what I've done while attaining them has given them worth beyond their stature.
You just keep telling yourself that, bro.;) I believe the quote, "I spent four years prostrate to the higher mind, got my paper and I was free.", would be apropos in juxtaposition, if one subscribed to that particular frame of reference.
Correct. The problem is that unless corporations get burned by inattention to proper security, then there is no incentive for corporations to take security REALLY seriously. I don't even think that the average individual can be expected to take computer security much more seriously than trying to keep their AV updated....
Ugh. Harvard has already noticed that people think it's ridiculous for most people to have to pay tuition to go to school there when they have so much money. See: http://www.piqe.org/assets/home/Harvard.htm
Uh, what? Did you miss the part where I said that Harvard University has 30 billion dollars in the bank and yet still charges an arm and a leg to receive an education from there? I wonder what we could do with 30 billion dollars...... hmmmm, oh yeah, fund the university without charging tuition.
Sad, I have no idea where this big "experience" thing comes from
I'll tell you where the "experience" thing comes from. Most young people today are retarded. I'm pretty sure that's how each successive generation views the next.;)
Now clearly I am a bit biased considering I am sitting in building 12 of RIT's campus waiting to take a final, but hear this out since I'm about to graduate from here and think it is somewhat better than "worthless"
Don't take it personally, bro!:) Higher learning in general is an economic rip-off, at least in the US. Say what you will about expaning your mind and all that feel-good grab-assery. It is still a fucken rip-off. Hence, the use of the terms "more or less" and "worthless" in my description of college. Did you know that the endowment for Harvard University is over/about 30 billion dollars? Why is it necessary to even pay to go to school there? It's the same story just about everywhere else too. Here's what I know to be true. COLLEGE==RIPOFF. ENGINEERING_EDUCATION_AT_COLLEGE==(RIPOFF + NO_GETTING_LAID). Heh.
Finally, you mention flaws related to young professionals. (without ever mentioning what they are, except for naivety, for which you never said why that actually harms the effectiveness of an employee) Assuming that these flaws exist, how exactly does a non-co-op university solve for this? These flaws are clearly inherent in young people and if experienced developers don't have them, then it is a matter of businesses identifying and teaching young programmers about these flaws and helping them to overcome them. If nobody ever tells young programmers their problems, don't ever expect those young programmers to improve and become experts.
To just make a quick point here. Business doesn't work like you are describing above and it perfectly illustrates my point about the naivety of youth. I sure you understand the quote "You keep what you kill.", right? I mean, you basically have to do everything yourself, in order to get ahead in business. That's just how it works. Capitalism doesn't encourage businesses to cooperate in the personal development of their employees as you indicate it should. To expect it to, is to fail. Mightily.
Let me guess - you are a jaded co-op/intern that picked a bad company to work for? Or are you just narrow-minded? This sort of stupidity has a root from somewhere. Ah...devalue the programming profession. Now I see - you must have gotten downsized at some point or something along that lines. You sure got some bitterness coming from somewhere.
You're a REALLY bad guesser.
You also have no idea what you're talking about. Here's a question for you: in which direction has household income in the U.S. been going since the early 1990s? Do you think that cheap labour from college students contributes at all? I don't think it takes a college degree in applied mathematics from a really good school on the quarter system (of course, all good schools are!) to figure out how the plusses and minuses of this equation works. Consider also that the country is entering a period of greatly enhanced inflation and perhaps you might BEGIN to understand what is going on here.....
Oh, and fuck you, incidentally, for being an asshole.
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We live in a world where literally yesterday a woman was stoned to death by her family for failing to live her life they way they wanted.
..... fuck you, you're fucking stupid, pathetic, and your thoughts are unforgivabley naive and sexist. You are, obviously, not a nerd. You are a vapid twit with a sinkhole between your legs. Go find your nearest porno shop, buy a dildo, stuff it up next to your cervix, and stop leaking your pussy juice all over slashdot.
This was a USA incident that some would say implicates western civilization so, let's talk about something that's actually relevant, ok? Approximately 45 murders occurred in the USA yesterday. Approximately, 76% of the victims had penises. Please advise me on which class of the human animal is more vulnerable in Western civilization.
There is literally no way to win as a woman
Rational Moe would like to point you towards THE OATMEAL so that any writings you may do on the web or elsewhere will not be infected by your misuse of the English language. But Irrational Moe
Ok, Moe is back and, rabtech, I submit that your poor parents did not do a good job providing you with an education.
As a certified expert in producing childish dribble, there was absolutely nothing childish about the comments of the parent poster.
"The whole point is women can't know a-priori who the good guys are and the penalty is being raped or killed."
My rebuttal is that 99.999999999999999999999999% of women in any interaction with any male do not end up dead or raped. Probably a billion more nines ought to added after the decimal but I'm sure even your damaged socialist brain sees the point.
"Do you honestly even give a second thought to someone punching you in the face or stabbing you at a conference?"
You mean like what happenned to Tyler Durden, himself, today?
Here's what rational Moe sees. The parent poster is advocating personal responsibility. You are disparaging that concept. This automatically disqualifies you from being remotely correct. That is, you are incorrect by about as much distance as there is between the Milky Way and Andromeda.
Irrational Moe would like to tell you to fucking kill yourself as you are, in fact, part of the problem here.
Please.
Well, a minimum wage job isn't really intended to be a LIVING wage job
Just stop posting dude. You have achieved the epitome of stupid. The quitessence of imbecilic thought even.
You can give your money away much more intelligently than the government can.
Are you fucking kidding? Since we're dealing with platitudes, let's try this one, you think Joe the Plumber can do anything better than the government? That dude is a fucken moron and so are the thousands of people like him. Just because you "can" do it, doesn't mean it will be done. To believe in such nonsense is a fuckin farce, douche.
Caltech sucks.
but merely that pure financial logic cannot reasonably be used as justification apart from any other considerations
Sure it can. If my budget is 30k US for a new car, then purchasing a Prius (for instance) over any other choice saves money because it gets better gas mileage. Perhaps the commoners who can only spend 20k US for a new car need to use your retarded calculus.
OR perhaps you should rephrase your long winded elaboration. Don't buy a Prius if you can't afford it because it is possible that gas prices might not offset the initial premium that you will pay for one.
Please stop spreading misinformation. You should read http://bankdeals.blogspot.com/ before you post about money again. I can (and do) get 5% on 100 bucks easy as pie. Idiot. You're doing it wrong.
pensions are not enough for sufficient living
Tag it redundant or engrish. I mean, that's just spectacular.
"I've always felt that in a security course, the students should study past successful attacks and try to learn what techniques could have foiled the attack that wouldn't have required any knowledge unavailable to the attackee before the attack. Concentrating on the specifics of the attack instead of the specifics of the defense is not productive."
..... wax on, wax off, paint the fence. Banzai!!!!!
Thanks for the advice Mr. Miyagi
It's "To hell with Georgia". You insensitive clod.
This new promotion style will more closely mirror this "organic" model of promotion.
;)
"Organic"? You damn communist hippies are becoming like the Borg.
.... I mean we are talking about ALABAMA here. I'd wager that it would be exceptionally hard to find a bigger pool of retards in the nation. I have vivid dreams (that never end well) of the American Southeast and Brawndo the Thirst Mutilitor ...... yuck.
Apparently his proof was published last September. It's "news" because it's just now hitting the semi-mainstream press. You people fail at nerddom.
Well, considering it took 10 years for anyone to really read and appreciate the work of Evariste Galois, I would say you don't deserve the mod points and need to step away from the slashdot groupthink.
There is nothing inherently wrong with FTP. To use your mail analogy, forcing your customers to use encryption to send a postcard is a little ridiculous, don't you thing?
Oh, just stop. He called you on your ridiculosity, so just walk away. You're just making yourself look like an ass. If you wanted your point to be Wikipedia is easier to get information out of., then you should have just said that. Instead you dressed it up with all this Flash FLASH flash WIKI wiKI wiki flash, oops I pooped my pants, wiki Flash, nonsense. Ironically, you've dressed your point up such that you might have well used FLASH to make a cartoon that explains your point. GOD.
No (you are wrong in addition to being a fucking ), drugs do not sell themselves. Anyone who says that this is the case, is a FUCKING IDIOT.
What do you do, follow me around and make jabs at my posts? :)
;)
....) That is perhaps the biggest disservice of an engineering higher education to the aspiring polymath. It doesn't prepare you well to be anything other than a calculating machine. And, ironically, we've built calculating machines that are better and more accurate than any human. And yet we persist ....
..... after hot chicks, of course. But really, the challenge is to leverage everyday interests into opportunities for learning. For instance, I know tons of people who love cars. I know tons of people who love guns. I know of very few educational opportunities that leverage these interests. Perhaps it is because it is too expensive and dangerous to give little Johnny a car and gun to take apart ..... Wait, I know of this tool that is very inexpensive and good at presenting immersive environments for entertainment, what's it called ..... oh yeah, the computer, a device whose unmatched ability to provide immersive entertianment could also provide the ultimate educational toolset.
Touche. And spoken like someone who has a very high opinion of themselves.
The ironic thing is that you may be preaching to the choir, for I also think the current model of university education is outdated and inefficient - something I'm actively trying to change, though perhaps not in the same way you envision.
I'll give you 3 suggestions. All serious, in their own way. First and foremost, there must be hot chicks involved in your project in order for it to succeed. I'm serious. Hot chicks help everything including themselves and the more you have, the more likely your project is to succeed.
Second, from the standpoint of undergraduate engineering education, there is too much math, far too little "insert mother tongue here - usually english" and foreign language study, and too much science is crammed into too little time. Remedy this and you will have more and better engineers. It should be possible to leverage the power of the computer to develop a new kind of engineering education that focuses humanity on what they are innately most qualified to do, communicate and command, and not necessarily on hard mathematics. For most people, the ability to communicate clearly defines their level of success in life. In engineering, at least, it is truly rare to find someone's success bound by their ability to solve, say, differential equations. Unfortunately, not receiving an engineering education at college is a kind of like burning 100 dollar bills, in that, there is very little ROI on, for example, a major in art history. Although it has been my experience, that the art history major is, in general, much more qualified to compose a coherant email, something that most people do far more often during their working life, than any kind of math at all. (I'd also wager that they are likely far more qualified to do the most important thing that people do, raise children, than any engineer. But that is neither here nor there. Moving on
Third, educational technology is the key to better educaiton
That said, neither my BS or MS, nor my Ph. D. when I attain it, are worthless. The universities may not be prestigious and the degrees alone may not mean much, but what I've done while attaining them has given them worth beyond their stature.
;) I believe the quote, "I spent four years prostrate to the higher mind, got my paper and I was free.", would be apropos in juxtaposition, if one subscribed to that particular frame of reference.
You just keep telling yourself that, bro.
I dare you to read this book http://www.amazon.com/University-Ruins-Bill-Readings/dp/0674929535 and consider again how much value your acronyms confer upon you.
Security isn't that hard to do right.
....
Correct. The problem is that unless corporations get burned by inattention to proper security, then there is no incentive for corporations to take security REALLY seriously. I don't even think that the average individual can be expected to take computer security much more seriously than trying to keep their AV updated
Ugh. Harvard has already noticed that people think it's ridiculous for most people to have to pay tuition to go to school there when they have so much money. See: http://www.piqe.org/assets/home/Harvard.htm
You're wrong.
Uh, what? Did you miss the part where I said that Harvard University has 30 billion dollars in the bank and yet still charges an arm and a leg to receive an education from there? I wonder what we could do with 30 billion dollars ...... hmmmm, oh yeah, fund the university without charging tuition.
Sad, I have no idea where this big "experience" thing comes from
;)
I'll tell you where the "experience" thing comes from. Most young people today are retarded. I'm pretty sure that's how each successive generation views the next.
Now clearly I am a bit biased considering I am sitting in building 12 of RIT's campus waiting to take a final, but hear this out since I'm about to graduate from here and think it is somewhat better than "worthless"
:) Higher learning in general is an economic rip-off, at least in the US. Say what you will about expaning your mind and all that feel-good grab-assery. It is still a fucken rip-off. Hence, the use of the terms "more or less" and "worthless" in my description of college. Did you know that the endowment for Harvard University is over/about 30 billion dollars? Why is it necessary to even pay to go to school there? It's the same story just about everywhere else too. Here's what I know to be true. COLLEGE==RIPOFF. ENGINEERING_EDUCATION_AT_COLLEGE==(RIPOFF + NO_GETTING_LAID). Heh.
Don't take it personally, bro!
Finally, you mention flaws related to young professionals. (without ever mentioning what they are, except for naivety, for which you never said why that actually harms the effectiveness of an employee) Assuming that these flaws exist, how exactly does a non-co-op university solve for this? These flaws are clearly inherent in young people and if experienced developers don't have them, then it is a matter of businesses identifying and teaching young programmers about these flaws and helping them to overcome them. If nobody ever tells young programmers their problems, don't ever expect those young programmers to improve and become experts.
To just make a quick point here. Business doesn't work like you are describing above and it perfectly illustrates my point about the naivety of youth. I sure you understand the quote "You keep what you kill.", right? I mean, you basically have to do everything yourself, in order to get ahead in business. That's just how it works. Capitalism doesn't encourage businesses to cooperate in the personal development of their employees as you indicate it should. To expect it to, is to fail. Mightily.
Let me guess - you are a jaded co-op/intern that picked a bad company to work for? Or are you just narrow-minded? This sort of stupidity has a root from somewhere. Ah...devalue the programming profession. Now I see - you must have gotten downsized at some point or something along that lines. You sure got some bitterness coming from somewhere.
.....
You're a REALLY bad guesser.
You also have no idea what you're talking about. Here's a question for you: in which direction has household income in the U.S. been going since the early 1990s? Do you think that cheap labour from college students contributes at all? I don't think it takes a college degree in applied mathematics from a really good school on the quarter system (of course, all good schools are!) to figure out how the plusses and minuses of this equation works. Consider also that the country is entering a period of greatly enhanced inflation and perhaps you might BEGIN to understand what is going on here
Oh, and fuck you, incidentally, for being an asshole.
Sweet.