"We don't need to see it -- just report the story."
The defacement is the story. Were you being serious?
"You want to protest the war, fine -- but don't exepct me to care what you have to say when you can't make your voice heard in a public and legal forum."
And what sorts of "creative" things do you think groups of people do when their voice has been made null and void? When you attempt to have your "voice heard in a public and legal forum" only to be ignored because you simply aren't as powerful as the accused, what then?
So, to recap: don't show the page in question for which this story is directly mentioning, and shut up and get in line with the other voiceless people until you can build bigger bombs or find a pocket of oil in your backyard? Nice...
"Fontbook is a joke and I now see why Extensis wasn't afraid of Apple getting into the font management software business."
You don't understand. FontBook is not supposed to be some sort of professional font management application. Never was. Suitcase (Extensis) and FontBook are two different applications used for different things. Suitcase is meant to manage a designer/production person's 10,000 fonts, usually through auto-activation... something FontBook does not do nor pretend to. FontBook is for that pseudo designer that has a few hundred fonts on their machine and would like some easy way to turn fonts on and off as they need instead of having all 400 fonts open at once in some user font folder. It's consumer level (thank you Apple for at least something), Suitcase is Pro level and a commercial application (currently $99). You want a free pro font application, I want a Corvette.
"First, I want Apple to have folders merge their contents when files or folders of the same name are encountered. Currently there is no easy way to syncoronize the contents of folders with the same name."
I'm confused (and so would 95% of the computer using market, trust me). Do you want folder synchronization, or do you want folders to automatically merge contents when you attempt to put two folders with the same name in the same place? You need to explain how this would be done,easily, in a completely non-confusing way for all users, etc... because it just doesn't make sense.
"It's science, and exploration, and both are good (imo), but if we want to prioritize, wouldn't billions of dollars be better spent focusing on fixing our own messed up planet?"
Riiiiight... just "think" of the things we could have done with $300 Billion.
But seriously, while I don't necessarily buy the argument of needing to "find other places to live" since short term the odds are far more in favor mutual destruction via bombs or environmental catastrophe than reaching a population critical mass for human life on this particular rock or needing to escape an exploding Sun/Asteroid/Alien invasion, etc...
While most research is done in Universities (not private/corporate/government labs as suggested by a few other posters), there would be a great amount of research conducted via this program, and putting humans back on the moon has a great humanizing effect that most should appreciate. This effect, as it did 37 years ago, spreads accross borders.
IMO, I can't wait to see clear video of man walking on the moon...
How can a 'state agency' use the Patriot Act to subpoena a Facebook profile?
Or the even more far reaching question, what about the profile did they find unacceptable?
I don't know about you, but I sure feel a little less "free" after hearing this. Not because I think the "story" is real (don't care), but because it wouldn't surprise me if this sort of thing did happen. That's what sucks. Just throw this onto the pile of things that have made me feel a "little less free" over the last few years. All together it's palpable.
If you are playing some of the less popular games, then yes, you are correct.
However, with BootCamp, you can just install Windows on another partition, boot into it and have full native speeds to run all of your Windows games on your Mac.
"On OS X, you can do more than screw the user account. The entire Applications directory is writable as users are in the "Admin" group by default." - 5, Informative
Wrong, only the first user is deemed admin (obviously), all subsequent users are "Standard", unless you check the "Admin" box.
"On your Mac, as a default admin user, try and delete an application from your Applications directory?
Can you do it without typing in your password?
Nope; The directory is writable, however, the contents are not. Interesting, no? You can create new entries, but you cannot alter/delete existing entries.
Seems like a satisfactory security model to me. I guess it enables "spoofing" issues." - 3, Insightful (prolly soon to be 5)
Wrong, as Admin you can delete whatever you wish from the Applications folder - it does not ask for the Admin password. I do this all day long on users Macs. I just did it on my own machine, works just fine, no password.
What is interesting, is how many people claim to know the Mac OS, get it so completely wrong and then have others confirm their incorrectness by modding them up. It's quite interesting.
"If Leopard has the Windows support that I think it will, this iMac could easily become the next must-have next to the iPod."
You never know, it may have robust Windows application support, in an attempt to ditch the "Windows" part of it all together. We may have a glimpse August 7th, who knows.
Um, dude *snicker*. I'm not wrong. This is simply Apple policy, has been for years. What part of this do you not understand? How can this be made more clear for you? You are convincing me that you are a liar more and more. Being a contractor and having used this service many times (I've serviced hundreds of Apple laptops) I am intimately aware of this program. You are making yourself look like a supreme jackass to all who are aware of this very simple policy that has been in place for years. You can do a simple google search to see this.
Are you mentally challanged or something? If you are, I apologize... But my bet is still on you simply being a liar. Nuff said.
Apple will NOT repair it out of warranty for $280. They specifically quoted me $680 (or something right around that) for the repair. You're not the first person to mention that, but like everyone else, clearly you've never actually tried to get them to do that.
You are simply wrong, and got modded up for it. Nice! Go to any Apple Store and ask someone how much an out of warranty repair is for an iBook, with no physical damage to it. It's $280. Has been for years. If they quoted you over $600 it was definitely because you had physical damage to machine, which is probably why your slot was not working, which was why as a nice workaround (to save you some money) they just put more RAM in the other slot. You sir, are the ignorant jackass, you should have thanked them. Instead, you spread false nonsense on/. just have another ignoramus mod you up. For shame.
BTW, it's $310 for an out of warranty PowerBook/MacBook Pro with no physical damage. Again, has been for years... you're either completely ignorant or are simply lying to spread FUD, either way you should definitely be modded down just for being completely wrong, if nothing else.
Let me guess, you put your iPod, containing an HD, in your cup holder in your car and wondered whey it "died" in 18 months.
Am I right? Did you not purchase the extended warranty not expecting to purchase a new iPod in a year?
And no, only the iBook G3 series has an extended repair program due to a problem with the logic board. (pssst, that means it's covered out of warranty)
Did you know that Apple will repair your out of warranty iBook (even if you decided to not purchase the extended warranty) for a flat rate of $280 if there is no physical damage to your laptop (that's pretty fuckin' sweet) even though the logic board costs over $700? Have you ever known a laptop to never have an MLB to go bad? Really!? Damn...
What are you not telling us? Did you really own an iBook or are you just here to bash Apple with false info to get modded up by cohorts who also are unaware of these services?
My guess is that you dropped your iBook down a flight of stairs and Apple quoted you an amount for repair that you didn't want to pay, rendering your machine inoperable, and now blame Apple. Nice.
I guarantee that 98% of the computer using market that would benefit from owning a Mac (my mom, my dad, my grandma, my brothers, my friends... none of whom are tech "geeks") could care less about Ubuntu or who Doctorow or Pilgrim are.
Worried? No, I don't think Apple is worried. In fact, they may see this, take note and grow from it. But worrying about this would be highly unlikely. That suggestion is quite absurd in fact.
The more you deviate from environments that humans evolved (gasp!) to co-exist with, a higher degree of "issues" will arise. Processed foods, high salt/fat/sugar content, disinfecting, formula over breast milk, no excersise, etc...
Does the fact that the patent was only granted to Creative last August have any bearing on this case, especially since the iPod and it's hierachal usage has been in the market for 5 years?
Great points, in fact there are very few things that humans do better than any other entity on Earth. Not memory, strength, speed, eyesight, etc... the list is very long. The one thing that we are able to do better than all the rest, via our large brains, is to ponder and articulate creative solutions (tool building/using) to solve problems, and then pass those learned processes on to post generations to build on using the same creative articulation. That's it.
Hello? Hi there. I'm 99% of the computer using market. I was just wondering why I should care about this.
And to the article sumbitter, I also do not care about your blog or how many "hits" you get so I will not click on your link. While I realize that this is/., and that/. is "supposed" to be for that 1% of the computer using market that speaks in lanquage the "norms" can't understand, but seriously would like to know why should I care? Thank you for the explanation.
"But what's Apple's "platform"? It's not the Mac, and it's not Mac OS, or Mac OS X, because their "handheld/..." is the iPod, and it's nothing like a Mac. It's not even tied in to the Mac. Apple's platform is, near as I can tell "whatever they can make money selling". That's not something they can control like Microsoft can control Windows. Microsoft isn't Apple's proxy, but what is?"
Actually, if you know anything about Apple the iPod is exactly like the Mac. It's a one stop solution (From the OS to the Hardware and iTunes to iPod, all supported under one roof), and they're easy to use. That is their platform. It's a mantra of theirs and it works.
"I like building my own PC's, being able to upgrade this part or the other, and being able to compare prices so I can minimize my expense as much as possible."
Remember, you would represent an extremely small portion of the computer using market. Very small.
"I don't know diddly about Apple. Can someone tell me how upgradable the typical Mac is? If I want to uprade the memory, cpu, hard drives, optical drives, gfx, etc., how easy is it to do this, and what's the longevity of the parts? How do prices compare between Apple and PC for these parts?"
As far as the actual tech work, it's mind boggingly easy. For example, on the G5 towers, things like the hard drive are replaced/added without using a single tool. The design is magnificent. iMac G5's could be repaired by trained monkeys. The MacMini is down to its logic board in 5 screws, etc... The only hardware they sell that could be considered difficult to repair, upgrade (and this is a relative notion) would be their laptops. Fitting things in those very thin machines are genius (when you open one up) but can be scary to those that do not know what they are doing.
For the umpteenth time, they simply don't sell inexpensive versions of their machines. This has been beaten to death a billion times.
"b) Gotta buy all new software"
Did you not see the parent article? There's this thing called BootCamp. Also, since there's no good, free, bundled alternative on the Windows side to do most of the things that people like to do with their machines (iLife), 90% would need to merely purchase Office, just like they had to for their Windows machine and they would be done. If not, BootCamp. Done.
"c) Not wanting to devote hours re-learning how to use their computer"
Thankfully, the learning curve is far more subtle on a Mac. And if you are a computer user at all the "switch" isn't that hard. It's quite pleasant and eye opening in fact, in a good way.
"d) The usual FUD (nothing's compatible, etc.)"
FUD it is.
The biggest reason people do not switch, is because a huge percentage of computer users don't even know they have an alternative. Hell, 85% still use Explorer, the vastly outdated POS that it is for the same damned reason. It's what everyone else uses, it's what they sell at all the electronic stores, and did I mention, everyone else uses it?
"As opposed to "the bad one" with AppleOS, MacOS through 9, Nu-Bus, etc.?
Wasn't that the same guys? (Or Jobs, anyway)."
No, it wasn't. For 12 years (1985-1997) it was Scully, etc... did you forget Jobs was ousted, only to see the company come perilously close to failing until Jobs came back?
"Another "by the way"- the iSight cameras in the Macbook and iMac absolutely SUCK. They're basically cellphone cameras; microscopic lens and CCD, no autofocus. No privacy shutter. The picture is very noisy and low resolution, the colors are funky..."
You just described 95% of the Web Cams in the home, only these are built into the top case of a laptop. The cam built into my MacBook pro is far better than my friend's laptop model in image/frame rate. Everything's relative I suppose.
Of the few other laptops with built in Web cams, the MacBook pro solution is elegant (duh) and use it all the time when on trips to talk to my wife via AIM (she uses a Sony DV cam plugged in via FireWire on her MDD dual 1.42 and I use my built in iSight with no set-up whatsoever via iChat). And to add, I have never seen a cell phone camera look as good as my MacBook Pro iSight camera. Not even close. Use PhotoBooth (not iChat which carries bandwidth limits I believe for res).
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"We don't need to see it -- just report the story."
The defacement is the story. Were you being serious?
"You want to protest the war, fine -- but don't exepct me to care what you have to say when you can't make your voice heard in a public and legal forum."
And what sorts of "creative" things do you think groups of people do when their voice has been made null and void? When you attempt to have your "voice heard in a public and legal forum" only to be ignored because you simply aren't as powerful as the accused, what then?
So, to recap: don't show the page in question for which this story is directly mentioning, and shut up and get in line with the other voiceless people until you can build bigger bombs or find a pocket of oil in your backyard? Nice...
"Fontbook is a joke and I now see why Extensis wasn't afraid of Apple getting into the font management software business."
You don't understand. FontBook is not supposed to be some sort of professional font management application. Never was. Suitcase (Extensis) and FontBook are two different applications used for different things. Suitcase is meant to manage a designer/production person's 10,000 fonts, usually through auto-activation... something FontBook does not do nor pretend to. FontBook is for that pseudo designer that has a few hundred fonts on their machine and would like some easy way to turn fonts on and off as they need instead of having all 400 fonts open at once in some user font folder. It's consumer level (thank you Apple for at least something), Suitcase is Pro level and a commercial application (currently $99). You want a free pro font application, I want a Corvette.
"First, I want Apple to have folders merge their contents when files or folders of the same name are encountered. Currently there is no easy way to syncoronize the contents of folders with the same name."
I'm confused (and so would 95% of the computer using market, trust me). Do you want folder synchronization, or do you want folders to automatically merge contents when you attempt to put two folders with the same name in the same place? You need to explain how this would be done,easily, in a completely non-confusing way for all users, etc... because it just doesn't make sense.
"It's science, and exploration, and both are good (imo), but if we want to prioritize, wouldn't billions of dollars be better spent focusing on fixing our own messed up planet?"
Riiiiight... just "think" of the things we could have done with $300 Billion.
But seriously, while I don't necessarily buy the argument of needing to "find other places to live" since short term the odds are far more in favor mutual destruction via bombs or environmental catastrophe than reaching a population critical mass for human life on this particular rock or needing to escape an exploding Sun/Asteroid/Alien invasion, etc...
While most research is done in Universities (not private/corporate/government labs as suggested by a few other posters), there would be a great amount of research conducted via this program, and putting humans back on the moon has a great humanizing effect that most should appreciate. This effect, as it did 37 years ago, spreads accross borders.
IMO, I can't wait to see clear video of man walking on the moon...
How can a 'state agency' use the Patriot Act to subpoena a Facebook profile?
Or the even more far reaching question, what about the profile did they find unacceptable?
I don't know about you, but I sure feel a little less "free" after hearing this. Not because I think the "story" is real (don't care), but because it wouldn't surprise me if this sort of thing did happen. That's what sucks. Just throw this onto the pile of things that have made me feel a "little less free" over the last few years. All together it's palpable.
If you are playing some of the less popular games, then yes, you are correct.
However, with BootCamp, you can just install Windows on another partition, boot into it and have full native speeds to run all of your Windows games on your Mac.
"On OS X, you can do more than screw the user account. The entire Applications directory is writable as users are in the "Admin" group by default." - 5, Informative
Wrong, only the first user is deemed admin (obviously), all subsequent users are "Standard", unless you check the "Admin" box.
"On your Mac, as a default admin user, try and delete an application from your Applications directory? Can you do it without typing in your password? Nope; The directory is writable, however, the contents are not. Interesting, no? You can create new entries, but you cannot alter/delete existing entries. Seems like a satisfactory security model to me. I guess it enables "spoofing" issues." - 3, Insightful (prolly soon to be 5)
Wrong, as Admin you can delete whatever you wish from the Applications folder - it does not ask for the Admin password. I do this all day long on users Macs. I just did it on my own machine, works just fine, no password.
What is interesting, is how many people claim to know the Mac OS, get it so completely wrong and then have others confirm their incorrectness by modding them up. It's quite interesting.
"If Leopard has the Windows support that I think it will, this iMac could easily become the next must-have next to the iPod."
You never know, it may have robust Windows application support, in an attempt to ditch the "Windows" part of it all together. We may have a glimpse August 7th, who knows.
Um, dude *snicker*. I'm not wrong. This is simply Apple policy, has been for years. What part of this do you not understand? How can this be made more clear for you? You are convincing me that you are a liar more and more. Being a contractor and having used this service many times (I've serviced hundreds of Apple laptops) I am intimately aware of this program. You are making yourself look like a supreme jackass to all who are aware of this very simple policy that has been in place for years. You can do a simple google search to see this.
Are you mentally challanged or something? If you are, I apologize... But my bet is still on you simply being a liar. Nuff said.
Apple will NOT repair it out of warranty for $280. They specifically quoted me $680 (or something right around that) for the repair. You're not the first person to mention that, but like everyone else, clearly you've never actually tried to get them to do that.
/. just have another ignoramus mod you up. For shame.
You are simply wrong, and got modded up for it. Nice! Go to any Apple Store and ask someone how much an out of warranty repair is for an iBook, with no physical damage to it. It's $280. Has been for years. If they quoted you over $600 it was definitely because you had physical damage to machine, which is probably why your slot was not working, which was why as a nice workaround (to save you some money) they just put more RAM in the other slot. You sir, are the ignorant jackass, you should have thanked them. Instead, you spread false nonsense on
BTW, it's $310 for an out of warranty PowerBook/MacBook Pro with no physical damage. Again, has been for years... you're either completely ignorant or are simply lying to spread FUD, either way you should definitely be modded down just for being completely wrong, if nothing else.
Let me guess, you put your iPod, containing an HD, in your cup holder in your car and wondered whey it "died" in 18 months.
Am I right? Did you not purchase the extended warranty not expecting to purchase a new iPod in a year?
And no, only the iBook G3 series has an extended repair program due to a problem with the logic board. (pssst, that means it's covered out of warranty)
Did you know that Apple will repair your out of warranty iBook (even if you decided to not purchase the extended warranty) for a flat rate of $280 if there is no physical damage to your laptop (that's pretty fuckin' sweet) even though the logic board costs over $700? Have you ever known a laptop to never have an MLB to go bad? Really!? Damn...
What are you not telling us? Did you really own an iBook or are you just here to bash Apple with false info to get modded up by cohorts who also are unaware of these services?
My guess is that you dropped your iBook down a flight of stairs and Apple quoted you an amount for repair that you didn't want to pay, rendering your machine inoperable, and now blame Apple. Nice.
I guarantee that 98% of the computer using market that would benefit from owning a Mac (my mom, my dad, my grandma, my brothers, my friends... none of whom are tech "geeks") could care less about Ubuntu or who Doctorow or Pilgrim are.
Worried? No, I don't think Apple is worried. In fact, they may see this, take note and grow from it. But worrying about this would be highly unlikely. That suggestion is quite absurd in fact.
Know your market for god's sake.
The 17" MacBook Pro has the best sounding internal speakers I have ever heard on a laptop. 4 speakers that actually sound incredible.
This just in...
The more you deviate from environments that humans evolved (gasp!) to co-exist with, a higher degree of "issues" will arise. Processed foods, high salt/fat/sugar content, disinfecting, formula over breast milk, no excersise, etc...
All of which can be played on a Mac in either native Mac format, or for the few that aren't out for Mac (Guild Wars), use BootCamp...
Does the fact that the patent was only granted to Creative last August have any bearing on this case, especially since the iPod and it's hierachal usage has been in the market for 5 years?
Great points, in fact there are very few things that humans do better than any other entity on Earth. Not memory, strength, speed, eyesight, etc... the list is very long. The one thing that we are able to do better than all the rest, via our large brains, is to ponder and articulate creative solutions (tool building/using) to solve problems, and then pass those learned processes on to post generations to build on using the same creative articulation. That's it.
Asked a valid question, got voted a troll. Gotta love /.!!
Hello? Hi there. I'm 99% of the computer using market. I was just wondering why I should care about this.
/., and that /. is "supposed" to be for that 1% of the computer using market that speaks in lanquage the "norms" can't understand, but seriously would like to know why should I care? Thank you for the explanation.
And to the article sumbitter, I also do not care about your blog or how many "hits" you get so I will not click on your link. While I realize that this is
Macs only cost slightly more than PC's. Check it here.
"But what's Apple's "platform"? It's not the Mac, and it's not Mac OS, or Mac OS X, because their "handheld/..." is the iPod, and it's nothing like a Mac. It's not even tied in to the Mac. Apple's platform is, near as I can tell "whatever they can make money selling". That's not something they can control like Microsoft can control Windows. Microsoft isn't Apple's proxy, but what is?"
Actually, if you know anything about Apple the iPod is exactly like the Mac. It's a one stop solution (From the OS to the Hardware and iTunes to iPod, all supported under one roof), and they're easy to use. That is their platform. It's a mantra of theirs and it works.
"I like building my own PC's, being able to upgrade this part or the other, and being able to compare prices so I can minimize my expense as much as possible."
Remember, you would represent an extremely small portion of the computer using market. Very small.
"I don't know diddly about Apple. Can someone tell me how upgradable the typical Mac is? If I want to uprade the memory, cpu, hard drives, optical drives, gfx, etc., how easy is it to do this, and what's the longevity of the parts? How do prices compare between Apple and PC for these parts?"
As far as the actual tech work, it's mind boggingly easy. For example, on the G5 towers, things like the hard drive are replaced/added without using a single tool. The design is magnificent. iMac G5's could be repaired by trained monkeys. The MacMini is down to its logic board in 5 screws, etc... The only hardware they sell that could be considered difficult to repair, upgrade (and this is a relative notion) would be their laptops. Fitting things in those very thin machines are genius (when you open one up) but can be scary to those that do not know what they are doing.
"a) The hardware is more expensive"
For the umpteenth time, they simply don't sell inexpensive versions of their machines. This has been beaten to death a billion times.
"b) Gotta buy all new software"
Did you not see the parent article? There's this thing called BootCamp. Also, since there's no good, free, bundled alternative on the Windows side to do most of the things that people like to do with their machines (iLife), 90% would need to merely purchase Office, just like they had to for their Windows machine and they would be done. If not, BootCamp. Done.
"c) Not wanting to devote hours re-learning how to use their computer"
Thankfully, the learning curve is far more subtle on a Mac. And if you are a computer user at all the "switch" isn't that hard. It's quite pleasant and eye opening in fact, in a good way.
"d) The usual FUD (nothing's compatible, etc.)"
FUD it is.
The biggest reason people do not switch, is because a huge percentage of computer users don't even know they have an alternative. Hell, 85% still use Explorer, the vastly outdated POS that it is for the same damned reason. It's what everyone else uses, it's what they sell at all the electronic stores, and did I mention, everyone else uses it?
"As opposed to "the bad one" with AppleOS, MacOS through 9, Nu-Bus, etc.? Wasn't that the same guys? (Or Jobs, anyway)."
No, it wasn't. For 12 years (1985-1997) it was Scully, etc... did you forget Jobs was ousted, only to see the company come perilously close to failing until Jobs came back?
"Another "by the way"- the iSight cameras in the Macbook and iMac absolutely SUCK. They're basically cellphone cameras; microscopic lens and CCD, no autofocus. No privacy shutter. The picture is very noisy and low resolution, the colors are funky..."
You just described 95% of the Web Cams in the home, only these are built into the top case of a laptop. The cam built into my MacBook pro is far better than my friend's laptop model in image/frame rate. Everything's relative I suppose.
Of the few other laptops with built in Web cams, the MacBook pro solution is elegant (duh) and use it all the time when on trips to talk to my wife via AIM (she uses a Sony DV cam plugged in via FireWire on her MDD dual 1.42 and I use my built in iSight with no set-up whatsoever via iChat). And to add, I have never seen a cell phone camera look as good as my MacBook Pro iSight camera. Not even close. Use PhotoBooth (not iChat which carries bandwidth limits I believe for res).
Holy freaking crap that is hillarious.