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Leopard Fake Screenshot Contest Winners Announced

Austin Sarner writes "Phill Ryu's Fake Leopard Screenshot contest which has been attracting a quite a bit of buzz has just ended and the winners have been announced! While there is a bunch of expected stuff in these screenshots, the entrants did not hold back when it came to trying out crazy stuff — and surprisingly, a good amount of them work great. Ranging from new window styles to a complete rethink of a window based work environment, these are sure to make any UI geek excited. The winners received over $1,000 each in prizes, and were obviously motivated to put out some great stuff. The judges included Wil Shipley, the creator of Delicious Library, David Watanabe, who makes NewsFire and Acquisition, as well as numerous other smaller devs."

163 comments

  1. I don't know about you by ManoSinistra · · Score: 1, Redundant

    I don't know about you, but I'm saving my pennies and nickels for the real deal...

    1. Re:I don't know about you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Nickels and pennies ??? Apple might be a few version past Leopard by the time you have enough money for it if that is what you are saving.

    2. Re:I don't know about you by Ethan+Allison · · Score: 1

      I speak for everyone when I say ... wtf?

    3. Re:I don't know about you by kfg · · Score: 1

      Well I know it, and you know it, but go try 'splainin' to them that they're not real leopards.

      KFG

  2. Hmmm by paulius_g · · Score: 3, Funny

    Nothing to see here, move along?

    That's sure the way Apple wants it until WWDC!

    1. Re:Hmmm by Misagon · · Score: 1

      There is not much to see here, no.

      The mockups were made by fans of Apple, and Apple fans love flashy new features Features FEATURES! That is what you can find in these mockups.

      If you are looking for good UI design, look elsewhere.

      Anyone looking to improve MacOS X should look here first: http://www.asktog.com/ .

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  3. Slashdotted already??... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I guess that's hosted on the winner of the fake server contest ...

    1. Re:Slashdotted already??... by ManoSinistra · · Score: 1

      Ha! It was up not but 5 minutes ago when I saw it. Wild.

    2. Re:Slashdotted already??... by jinushaun · · Score: 1, Interesting

      It was dugg 2 days ago... This server is getting twice owned!

    3. Re:Slashdotted already??... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > I guess that's hosted on the winner of the fake server contest ...
      har har..

  4. Umm.. by William+Robinson · · Score: 5, Funny
    "Well, this guy sure likes Asian women...

    Good, I stayed away from the contest. Otherwise, he would have easily guessed, that I like Canadian women.

    1. Re:Umm.. by daeley · · Score: 5, Funny

      that I like Canadian women.

      This thread is useless without pics, you hoser. ;)

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    2. Re:Umm.. by shidoshi · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's funny how much I'm getting ragged on by a few people out there for the amount of Asian girls in my screenshots. One of the things I wanted to show off was the playing movies in the icon support, by far the most vidoe files I have are Asian music videos, so I chose to go with those. For the rest... hey, Asian girls are cute, I had some images onhand, so that's what I used.

    3. Re:Umm.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Don't be upset, sir. It's just the result of the posters angling for a "funny" moderation. Us nerds all tend to think of the same joke, and each thinks they're the only clever one.

      (Comment posted anonymously to avoid overrating.)

      --Saint Fnordius (456567)

    4. Re:Umm.. by aichpvee · · Score: 1

      It's not a funny joke to make, though. Asian girls: serious business!

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    5. Re:Umm.. by myspys · · Score: 1

      estonian women win, hands down

      all pictures from rate.ee

    6. Re:Umm.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuck you you fucking rice lover dick head

    7. Re:Umm.. by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Well, this guy sure likes Asian women

      They love you long time *duck*

    8. Re:Umm.. by StikyPad · · Score: 1

      So are puppies, but that doesn't mean I'm going to plaster them all over my desktop.

      Well, I mean theoretically.. if I knew people were going to see it.

      FINE, I'll take down the puppies. Jesus!

  5. Coral Cache Link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative
    1. Re:Coral Cache Link by happytud · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      FIRST POST ZOMG!

    2. Re:Coral Cache Link by toochoos · · Score: 1

      Coral _Cache_ is slashdotted already. Damn, after that you won't say screenshots don't attract crowds... even if they're fake.

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  6. In related news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In related news, /. has announced fake mirror contest. Goatse links are disqualified however.

  7. Alternative by wombatmobile · · Score: 5, Funny

    The site is currently hosed, but it isn't the only fake leopard site out there.

    1. Re:Alternative by Boneburner · · Score: 1

      Pure Genius

    2. Re:Alternative by loraksus · · Score: 1

      I like my fake leopard better.
      That, my friends, is what happens when you play red alert 2 for 9+ hours, take some (more) vicodin and codeine and notice that Photoshop CS has been sitting in the taskbar the whole time.

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    3. Re:Alternative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nor is it the only "Changing the way that Mac features look" site out there.

  8. Upload an XP screen by gravy.jones · · Score: 0

    I would have loved to upload a vanilla, out of the box, XP desktop.

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    1. Re:Upload an XP screen by darkonc · · Score: 2, Funny
      I was thinking a text-only screen (perhaps a midnight-commander type interface) -- and a mouse pointer.

      Far more efficient CPU wise than those stupid high-res desktops and far easier to use remotely.

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  9. Mockups = mockups by 13bPower · · Score: 2, Informative

    I've seen a lot of these ideas before. I remember them from all the Gnome3 and KDE4 mockups floating around. These fake shots do look nice though.

  10. Mirror by QuantumFTL · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Digg mirror of the story can be found here

    <shameless plug> If you need an Asterisk VPS, (or any other kind) check out lylix.net - guarantee we never need mirrored :) </shameless plug>

    1. Re:Mirror by phillryu · · Score: 3, Informative

      Hi, it's my blog that's getting owned right now. That dugg mirror does mirror the winning entry, but does not mirror the entire article with comments + the 2 other winners and 3 runners up. I'm trying to get this fixed but to see the whole thing you guys might have to wait until this cools down a bit... if that'll ever happen. DREEEAMHOOOOOSSST!!!!! ARGH!

    2. Re:Mirror by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
    3. Re:Mirror by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      01:07:54 up 5 days, 6:42, 13 users, load average: 117.83, 76.44, 37.26

      Are you hosted on atlantic.dreamhost by any chance? Took PuTTY about 45 seconds to login this morning :)

  11. Mockups = mockups-Tapier. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So who came first? KDE4/Gnome3 or these guys?

    1. Re:Mockups = mockups-Tapier. by Ant+P. · · Score: 1

      I've seen Gnome3 screenshots before even OS X 10.4 was released. Don't know about KDE.

    2. Re:Mockups = mockups-Tapier. by JabberWokky · · Score: 1
      A good chunk of the winning screenshot are features in Konqueror (and the associated things installed by default with KDE like war archives, sidebar and preview plugins). Enough so that I wonder if the winner is also a KDE user.

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  12. Look For It by dch24 · · Score: 1

    I see some pretty good ideas there. After Leopard is released, Vista will announce new features for Aero Glass that are either from Leopard or from these ideas. (Did you really think they would ship before WWDC?)

  13. +5, Insightful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    :O

  14. My two wishes for OSX.5 by stubear · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't care for fancy visual upgrades, I want two serious propblems fixed in OSX.5. First, I want Apple to have folders merge their contents when files or folders of the same name are encountered. Currently there is no easy way to syncoronize the contents of folders with the same name.

    Second, Apple needs to fix their craptastic font handling lack of capabilities. In this day in age it is completely unreasonable to allow fonts to run wild and take entire systems down. Fontbook is a joke and I now see why Extensis wasn't afraid of Apple getting into the font management software business.

    These two fixes would go a long way to making OSX a lot more usable for me.

    1. Re:My two wishes for OSX.5 by tezbobobo · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Yeah dude, anyone who needs to manage their fonts beyond the ability of Apple's ability should not be using inbuilt font support on ANY platform. I might suggest Font Agent Pro. I use it all the time I'm working (newspaper designer) and it is th best out there. If suitcase have gotten their shit together, they used to be pretty good. And apparently linotypes new thing is good, but from reports not as good as FAP (free though).

      Merging would be nice.

    2. Re:My two wishes for OSX.5 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Nothing's as good as a FAP every now and then.

    3. Re:My two wishes for OSX.5 by stubear · · Score: 1

      I currently use Suitcase but fonts can still become corrupt and cause problems. Fontbook simply exacerbates the problem. I'll give FontExplorer a shot though.

    4. Re:My two wishes for OSX.5 by Ninwa · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Modded informative, haha.

    5. Re:My two wishes for OSX.5 by linhux · · Score: 2, Informative
      Currently there is no easy way to syncoronize the contents of folders with the same name.
      There's always cp -r.

      saga:~/test rasmus$ find .
      .
      ./test1
      ./test1/a
      ./test1/a/contents-in-test1-a
      ./test1/a/contents-in-test1-b
      ./test1/a/contents-in-test1-c
      ./test2
      ./test2/a
      ./test2/a/contents-in-test2-a
      ./test2/a/contents-in-test2-b
      ./test2/a/contents-in-test2-c
      saga:~/test rasmus$ cp -r test1/a/* test2/a/
      saga:~/test rasmus$ find test2
      test2
      test2/a
      test2/a/contents-in-test1-a
      test2/a/contents-in-test1-b
      test2/a/contents-in-test1-c
      test2/a/contents-in-test2-a
      test2/a/contents-in-test2-b
      test2/a/contents-in-test2-c
      saga:~/test rasmus$

    6. Re:My two wishes for OSX.5 by MoreDruid · · Score: 2, Informative
      regarding font management: you might want to take a look at LinoType FontExplorer.

      it's free and a good contender to the Extensis software, although they still have some polishing to do.

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    7. Re:My two wishes for OSX.5 by Eivind+Eklund · · Score: 1
      I don't get what you mean by "I want Apple to have folders merge their contents when files or folders of the same name are encountered."

      How "encountered"? And how do you want to merge files with folders?

      Eivind.

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    8. Re:My two wishes for OSX.5 by eclectic4 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "Fontbook is a joke and I now see why Extensis wasn't afraid of Apple getting into the font management software business."

      You don't understand. FontBook is not supposed to be some sort of professional font management application. Never was. Suitcase (Extensis) and FontBook are two different applications used for different things. Suitcase is meant to manage a designer/production person's 10,000 fonts, usually through auto-activation... something FontBook does not do nor pretend to. FontBook is for that pseudo designer that has a few hundred fonts on their machine and would like some easy way to turn fonts on and off as they need instead of having all 400 fonts open at once in some user font folder. It's consumer level (thank you Apple for at least something), Suitcase is Pro level and a commercial application (currently $99). You want a free pro font application, I want a Corvette.

      "First, I want Apple to have folders merge their contents when files or folders of the same name are encountered. Currently there is no easy way to syncoronize the contents of folders with the same name."

      I'm confused (and so would 95% of the computer using market, trust me). Do you want folder synchronization, or do you want folders to automatically merge contents when you attempt to put two folders with the same name in the same place? You need to explain how this would be done,easily, in a completely non-confusing way for all users, etc... because it just doesn't make sense.

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    9. Re:My two wishes for OSX.5 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He want new files to be added during a copy operation (like windows does).

      This seems completely reasonable. When you would drag a folder onto a folder with the same name, or in a folder containing one of the same name, the Finder should say:

      "Do you want to replace the content of X with the new folder, or do you want to merge the content ?"

      [REPLACE][MERGE]

      Then, in case of a problem (A file replacing a directory with the same name, for instance), it should pop a message askig what to do:
      * Remove folder, replace it by the file
      * Ignore
      * Move the folder away, add the file [okay this is probably a bit advanced]

      Not rocket science, and coutless hours of merging will be saved

    10. Re:My two wishes for OSX.5 by Archibald+Buttle · · Score: 1

      Personally I wish they'd sort out their virtual memory system.

      I used to use Navicat a great deal - a tool for talking to MySQL databases. Unfortunately it has a bug or two, and when executing some queries it will get into a state where it starts to eat memory and never stops. If you don't notice this is happening then you end up with an unusable machine - the Force Quit dialogue box will come up, eventually, but the machine will essentially be unresponsive. If you're fortunate enough to have a terminal session open from another computer then killing the growing task would solve the problem.

      Similarly I had an XServe running my former company's web site. Apache hadn't been configured very well on this machine, and during periods of heavy demand a few too many apache instances would get spawned, eating up memory. Once again the machine would grind to a halt, inevitably making the problem of dealing with the demand worse. (Once very low limits were set on the number of Apache instances this machine performed OK.) We also had a linux web server which had a slower (single) processor and less memory, but when faced with similar loads it would cope admirably.

    11. Re:My two wishes for OSX.5 by stubear · · Score: 1

      This is from a post above so it's not directed at you specifically but giv ethis a shot, "...when you do this OSX wipes the existing folder and replaces it with the new content. Try this. Create a folder on your desktop and place four or five sub folders within it. Copy some image files or whatever you want into this folder and pepper the subfolders with similar content, including subfolders. Copy this folder to another location on your system. Go back to your original folder and remove a few of the files and/or folders. Now, copy this same folder to the same place you made your copy then inspect the contents. If you changed any of the contents of your subfolders as well then try your method of copying the contents of the top level folder and lookinto the subfolders. Data is removed during the operation. Both Windows and Linux use the same term "replace" in their dialogs as well but both actually merge the contents of the directories, only overwriting files of the same name after asking. OSX should not do this. This couldn't be more user-unfriendly an operation if Apple tried."

      I want this feature to work like it does in Windows and Linux. It's sort of a poor man's synchronization but it woudl be immensely helpful given the way I work.

    12. Re:My two wishes for OSX.5 by Ilgaz · · Score: 1

      They need to change the font caching architecture seriously. I got iDefrag, a advanced disk defrag here (video guy here,I deal with huge files) with online defrag capabilities and it can show which file has fragments while disk online (in use)

      Annex.aux right now have 10 fragments (3.52 mb file,what happened to auto defrag of http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/ 27903

      You can imagine the reports they get from their customers if they added such option.

    13. Re:My two wishes for OSX.5 by MyDixieWrecked · · Score: 1

      FontAgent Pro is the best font application out there for OSX. It performs reasonably well up to about 10000 fonts. after that, it starts to choke, when loading (primarily because it has an option to compare font metrics to determine exact duplicates).

      as for merging, that's possible using a great commandline utility called rsync that comes with OSX, albeit, I think you need to install the developer tools to get access to that. Apple's rsync is broken for some things, since it doesn't preserve dates, but there's a fix called rsyncx that works great.

      I don't see why someone couldn't make a contextual menu module (CMM) front-end for rsync integration in the Finder. that'd be badass.

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    14. Re:My two wishes for OSX.5 by water-and-sewer · · Score: 1

      I agree with the need to deal with merging. Unfortunately it's not always easy when there are conflicting file dates. Do you always choose the new file? Ask on an individual basis? I struggled with this while synchronizing two computers and finally gave up and bought synchronizing software, which deals with this problem, as well as others. Chronosoft provides very intelligent merging algorithms and other routines that have been helpful in making two folders into one.

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    15. Re:My two wishes for OSX.5 by Fluk3 · · Score: 0

      Merging folders/files with the same name is tricky. Many times I see two files and/or folders with the same file name but they are completely different items (a picture or an orange named orange.jpg and a picture or an orange flower named orange.jpg for example). This must be dealt with manually. You don't want your computer making assumptions based simply on the file or folder name. However, there are 3rd party programs that will help to automate this. And I think you can probably whip up something with automator. Why would extensis be "afraid" of Apple? They have been making font management apps for the Mac since system 7. Font book is only meant for basic font management and is as good or better than any OS's native font manager. All it does is move fonts in and out of the user font directory (and checks for font corruption). What is this about "allowing fonts to run wild"? Fonts dont "do" anything on their own. You either use the default setup or manage them yourself. If you screw it up by removing vital fonts or adding corrupted fonts or duplicate fonts, thats your error, not Apple's. Font issues are certianly real and exist on all platofrms. But the issues are usually caused by user intervention, incorrect assumptions and lack of experience or knowledge. If one doesn't have this knowledge one should leave the system fonts alone and add the ones you want to the user space manually or using font book. Advanced users need an advanced 3rd party font utility. I don't see the need for Apple to make a higher end font app. Font bok is good enough for 90% of mac users and Suitcase covers everyone else. What I don't like is the god damned .dfonts that I have to replace with postscript fonts to run a print shop. (helvetica, helvetica neue, futura, gil sans, zapf dingbats, etc, etc)

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    16. Re:My two wishes for OSX.5 by Fluk3 · · Score: 0

      Suitcase Fusion has made great strides over Suitcase 10 and suitcase X1. The ability to seperate custom font suitcases for example.

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    17. Re:My two wishes for OSX.5 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Synchronize! Pro X
      Yes you have to pay for it, but then, as my Dad used to say, "you may not always get what you pay for, but you almost never get what you want when you don't pay."

    18. Re:My two wishes for OSX.5 by Gattman01 · · Score: 1

      First, I want Apple to have folders merge their contents when files or folders of the same name are encountered. Currently there is no easy way to syncoronize the contents of folders with the same name.

      You want two folders with the same name to have the same contents?
      Ever try symbolic or hard links?

    19. Re:My two wishes for OSX.5 by stubear · · Score: 1

      First of all, if you're placing random files in folders you wish to keep synchronized in some way perhaps it's your file management that's in question. I'm a graphic designer and in Windows I create folders for all the current projects I'm working on. Folders at the top level are given the client's name and the first level of subfolders is named after the job code. Within these folders I organize assets, source files, etc. On a second drive I keep all the projects I've ever worked on and maintain the same organization. When I want to back up the current projects I simply grab the client folders I want to backup and drag them to the back-up folder on my second drive. In Windows I'll get a message that says there is already a folder named {client}, would you like to replace the folder with this one? (or something to that effect). When I check "yes to all" and click OK Windows will merge the contents of the desktop folder with the contents of the back-up folder. What this means is all new projects will be copied over and the older projects will be left alone. Now that I'm no longer freelancing I have to use OSX at the design firm where I work. When I tried to setup the same workflow in OSX I discovered that I was losing older projects because when OSX says do you want to replace the folder, they truly mean replace. OSX deletes the destination folder then copies the desktop folder to the back-up folder. I shouldn't have to purchase a third party utility to copy a folder to another drive. By the way, I checked and Linux (at least Ubuntu) performed the operation the same way Windows does and all three OSes use the term "replace".

      As for font management, I agree, FontBook sucks. I've always used Suitcase on Macs and we use Suitcase X1 where I work now. The problem is fonts and font caches become corrupted, period. Corrupt fonts can bring OSX to its knees (I've witnessed this personally), especially when the font caches become corrupt or become too large. Macs have been notoriously poor at managing fonts (and I don't mean organizing either, though I can see how one might have misunderstood my original post). This is unacceptable for what is supposed to be a modern OS. A font file should not be allowed to affect the OS, especially to the extent they do in OSX.

    20. Re:My two wishes for OSX.5 by stubear · · Score: 1

      This was a reply to another comment so it's not exactly directed at you but it does address your comment:

      "I'm a graphic designer and in Windows I create folders on my desktop for all the current projects I'm working on. Folders at the top level are given the client's name and the first level of subfolders is named after the job code. Within these folders I organize assets, source files, etc. On a second drive I keep all the projects I've ever worked on and maintain the same organization. When I want to back up the current projects I simply grab the client folders I want to backup and drag them to the back-up folder on my second drive. In Windows I'll get a message that says there is already a folder named {client}, would you like to replace the folder with this one? (or something to that effect). When I check "yes to all" and click OK Windows will merge the contents of the desktop folder with the contents of the back-up folder. What this means is all new projects will be copied over and the older projects will be left alone. Now that I'm no longer freelancing I have to use OSX at the design firm where I work. When I tried to setup the same workflow in OSX I discovered that I was losing older projects because when OSX says do you want to replace the folder, they truly mean replace. OSX deletes the destination folder then copies the desktop folder to the back-up folder. I shouldn't have to purchase a third party utility to copy a folder to another drive. By the way, I checked and Linux (at least Ubuntu) performed the operation the same way Windows does and all three OSes use the term "replace"."

    21. Re:My two wishes for OSX.5 by Gattman01 · · Score: 1

      Alright, that makes more sense.

      The way the original comment was worded, it sounded like you wanted the operating system to actively search for folders with the same name and merge them automatically. Which didn't make much sense to me, like if I had two coding projects with a directory named "src", I wouldn't want them to have the same contents automatically.

      OSX should have some facility for setting up links if you want just two, or more, directories to point to the same place. On the older OS's they had aliases, like Window's shortcuts. I would think that OSX would support aliases, in addition to soft/hard links, given its BSD base.

      But adding a "Merge" option when copying makes sense.

    22. Re:My two wishes for OSX.5 by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 1

      I want this feature to work like it does in Windows and Linux.

      I don't. I hate it when the OS decides it know what I want to do for me and does something I did not tell it. If I deleted a file two folders down and then copy the parent folder over another folder somewhere, I expect that file to still be gone. If I want to merge trees I'll use a versioning system.

    23. Re:My two wishes for OSX.5 by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      "Nothing's as good as a FAP every now and then."

      After I wash my hands, I'll drink to that!

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    24. Re:My two wishes for OSX.5 by stubear · · Score: 1

      I don't want to use links because I don't necessarily want to work on the files sitting on my back-up drive. If I want to restore the file for whatever reason links would not allow me to do this. Merging the contents is the most efficient method I've come across.

    25. Re:My two wishes for OSX.5 by metamatic · · Score: 1

      Guess what? Load up a Windows XP or Linux box with way more active processes than it has RAM and swap, and they'll grind into non-responsiveness too. Virtual memory is not a magic cure for non-responsive systems.

      There are tools for preventing runaway processes from making the machine non-responsive, you should probably learn to use them. (Look up 'ulimit'.)

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    26. Re:My two wishes for OSX.5 by Gattman01 · · Score: 1

      >I don't want to use links because I don't necessarily want to work on the files sitting on my back-up drive. If I want to restore the file for whatever reason links would not allow me to do this.

      Right, again this wasn't clear from the original post I commented on.

      Out of curiosity, how does the 'cp' command on the console work in OS X? Does it work like the standard Unix/Linux copy with merging? Or does it replace?

      Its best looking way, but perhaps tar or a script that uses tar works best?

      Again, that wouldn't work for the simplest user, so adding a merging option to the finder's copy function would probably be the best solution.

    27. Re:My two wishes for OSX.5 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I don't. I hate it when the OS decides it know what I want to do for me and does something I did not tell it.
      That's an irrelevant objection. The issue here is a difference in what we think we're telling the OS to do.

      If I deleted a file two folders down and then copy the parent folder over another folder somewhere, I expect that file to still be gone. If I want to merge trees I'll use a versioning system.
      I suspect you're in the minority here. Most people don't even know what a versioning system is. The workaround to get the behavior you want on systems that do the opposite is to delete the destination folder first. There is no easy workaround the other way.
    28. Re:My two wishes for OSX.5 by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 1

      The issue here is a difference in what we think we're telling the OS to do.

      True enough, but I think move and replace are both fairly intuitive procedures. The difference is that in replacing the behavior from the mouse action is consistent whereas if you merge folders with that mouse action, shouldn't you also merge the contents of files? Doing two different operations using the same method is what I am objecting to.

      I suspect you're in the minority here.

      So are you. Most people expect that if they replace a folder with another, the old folder and what was in it will be gone. Most people would not understand merging at all.

      Most people don't even know what a versioning system is.

      True, although that will change as filesystems and versioning systems merge.

      The workaround to get the behavior you want on systems that do the opposite is to delete the destination folder first. There is no easy workaround the other way.

      Then I propose the correct solution is to provide a workaround for the other way or to change both behaviors, not to un-intuitively perform different operations depending upon the contents of a folder.

    29. Re:My two wishes for OSX.5 by commodoresloat · · Score: 1
      I want Apple to have folders merge their contents when files or folders of the same name are encountered. Currently there is no easy way to syncoronize the contents of folders with the same name.

      I hope you don't want this done on the fly. You might have folders with the same name that are in different places for a reason. I certainly do. I don't want them merged or syncd. There are plenty of third party tools that will sync specified folders.

    30. Re:My two wishes for OSX.5 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Coming from GNOME and Nautilus, I was suprised that the Apple Finder in Tiger didn't show thumnails of PDFs and images. That's clearly one area where FOSS was really innovative. However, I encourage Apple to copy this feature :-)

  15. Ah! I get it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Leopard the MAC-OS-Codename! Not leopard-the-animal-featured-on-Windows-98- (or was it 95-?) Plus-wallpaper!

    OK. Thanks for such a great summary, Neal! Super!

  16. Am I the only one... by DwarfGoanna · · Score: 3, Informative

    who thinks that finder looks completely unusable? IANAIDBT (I am not an interface designer by trade), but this really puts the the stupid in Keep It Simple, Stupid. You have to remember that Apple especially would probably like to keep their file browser grandma friendly. I'm sure I could find ways to put something like this to good use eventually, but my first impression was "holy fuck, thats cluttered".

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    1. Re:Am I the only one... by bartron · · Score: 1

      So what part of FAKE screenshot didn't you understand? As for the real deal, you can make it as cluttered or uncluttered as you please....just like Windows. Bartron

    2. Re:Am I the only one... by chachacha · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      >>IANAIDBT (I am not an interface designer by trade), but this really puts the the stupid in Keep It Simple, Stupid.

      I know this is going to be modded as flamebait, but... "IANAIDBT"? If you have to explain it why use the acronym in the first place? And "Keep It Simple Stupid"? If you're so fond of acronyms why not just type 'KISS'?

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    3. Re:Am I the only one... by DwarfGoanna · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's a slashdot cliche. Which is sort of funny. Er... to me anyway.

      Sort of like "I know this is going to get modded down, but..."

      It's just that.... guh. Forget it.

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    4. Re:Am I the only one... by ak3ldama · · Score: 1

      doh. i thought your post was interesting, or at least funny. it's too bad others thought it was flamebait when you brought up a valid point.

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    5. Re:Am I the only one... by A_Non_Moose · · Score: 1

      who thinks that finder looks completely unusable?

      I do, but then again anything with "Brushed Metal" should be banned.

      C'mon, Steve, you touted "Aqua" as the interface for OSX, but WTF is up with brushed metal?

      "It makes it look professional" or some such was what I recalled hearing.

      No, quite frankly, brushed metal makes me think of fast food kitches, pee troughs at a stadium
      or the brushed metal toilets in your average jail cell.

      Real good choice there, dude.

      Clutter + Fugly in the midst of Aqua and BSD.

      (shakes head)

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  17. Would it be from by alfrin · · Score: 1

    Otherwise, he would have easily guessed, that I like Canadian women.

    Would it be from the massive amounts of Avril Lavigne visible in your itunes library ;)

  18. I especially like the one... by jpellino · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... with the animated smoke pouring from the phillryu server mounted on the desktop.
    Oh, that's *real*?
    Oops.

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  19. dave watanabe by eobanb · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Too bad Aquisition is a GPL-violating abomination.

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    1. Re:dave watanabe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you were competent you would know that it doesn't violate the GPL.

    2. Re:dave watanabe by MadEE · · Score: 1

      I am not the parent but I do know "something". This Dave individual steadfastly refused to release any code, banned users from the forums (after ignoring or being abusive to user's emails) for nearly 6 months and only did after the staff at Limewire got involved did he release a version with chunks of code that would fall under GPL missing. For all I know the software may be in full compliance, but regardless of that fact his attitude towards his responsibilities puts me in the mind profiteer attempting to get something for nothing. It will take a hell of a lot more then following the rules to escape the stigma of that in my book.

    3. Re:dave watanabe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude ... the whole purpose of that program is to help people steal stuff. And now you're shitting on him because you accuse him of stealing to write it? You are the world's biggest hypocrite.

  20. BEWARE OF LEOPARD by RelliK · · Score: 4, Funny

    (That's our display department.)

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    1. Re:BEWARE OF LEOPARD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But I'm looking for the route plans for the new bypass.

  21. Slashdotted already? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now how will MS programmers figure out what to put into Vista?

    1. Re:Slashdotted already? by 9Nails · · Score: 0, Troll

      Oh, it's simple. They will wait for Apple to release the code. Steal it. Then re-badge it as an MS product. Standard Operating Procedure.

    2. Re:Slashdotted already? by Kuroji · · Score: 1

      Don't you mean standard operating system?

    3. Re:Slashdotted already? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Oh, it's simple. They will wait for Apple to release the code. Steal it. Then re-badge it as an MS product. Standard Operating Procedure.


      I suppose that means Xerox is still developing platform software, since Apple seems to steal it's best ideas from them... Oh, and Jobsie will throw a temper tantrum.

      THAT is standard operating procedure for Apple.
    4. Re:Slashdotted already? by rgravina · · Score: 0

      But Xerox is a lab, and the work they did was research. I believe Apple licenced their technology or just used it if that was permitted, I'm not 100% sure on the details. Either way, that is the purpose of reaserch.

      Whatever happened to the idea of sharing ideas anyway? So what if Xerox used a GUI before Apple and Apple before Microsoft. Doesn't mean Microsoft should have to use an alternate user interface. But we'll leave this discussion for a software patents article. Unfortunately there are too many of those! :)

      Ah, I can't believe I just stuck up Microsoft!

    5. Re:Slashdotted already? by luketheduke · · Score: 1

      >Then re-badge it as an MS product. Standard Operating Procedure. No it never gets released they keep updateing Vista with it

  22. And the other pages, too... by vistic · · Score: 5, Informative

    That only has the first place winner... if you want to see the story as well as the other winners and runners up....

    Main Page: Coral cache | Google cache
    First Place: Coral cache | Google cache
    Second Place: Coral cache | Google cache
    Third Place: Coral cache | Google cache
    Runner Up: Coral cache | Google cache
    Runner Up: Coral cache | Google cache
    Runner Up: Coral cache | Google cache

    1. Re:And the other pages, too... by QuantumFTL · · Score: 1

      Thanks I had a bit of trouble with the coral cache.

    2. Re:And the other pages, too... by 1u3hr · · Score: 2, Informative

      Coral caches are all dead, Google ONLY CACHES TEXT. The image links in Google cache point back to the original site.

    3. Re:And the other pages, too... by Jesus_666 · · Score: 1

      That's why everyone should run screenshots through aalib before putting them up.

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  23. Re:Mirror Ob Fight Club quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    His name was Phillryu
    His name was Phillryu
    His name was Phillryu...

    (Was able to sneak a peek, thanks, phillryu. you must admit that this is a better quote than the one where i whip out a pair of scissors to cut your you-knows-what in case you had any questions...=)You *are* familiar with the movie, aren't you?

  24. Re:Mirror Ob Fight Club quote by phillryu · · Score: 1

    I've seen it but I have no idea what you're talking about. :P

  25. Which one? by shidoshi · · Score: 5, Informative

    For mine (the first place winner), I was trying to show off a lot of different feature ideas, so yeah, my Finder ended up being a bit cluttered. We were limited to five screenshots, so once I factored in the Mail and Safari shots, plus Peek getting its own, I just decided to go all out with one main Finder shot. Obviously, in real-world usage, it wouldn't be so cluttered, and everything would have options for turning said features on or off.

    1. Re:Which one? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Path Finder is a good alternative. http://www.cocoatech.com/pf4/

  26. Well.... by kbox · · Score: 1

    I'm sure it would have been good...

    There should be a policy amendment to slashdot story submition guidelines.
    Rule#1 Make sure the site is running on something better than a 56k dial up modem.

  27. Acquisition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
    David Watanabe, who makes NewsFire and Acquisition

    I think you mean "well-known GPL abuser David Watanabe, who makes NewsFire and Acquisition"

    1. Re:Acquisition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's also a well-known arrogant jerk, but this acqlite review from macupdate (in response to a comment stating "Nothing is better than Acquisition") says it all: "Nothing is better than Acquisition, except for perhaps ANYONE with ANY shred of social decency WHATSOEVER, which the developer and users of Acquisition do NOT submit to....I already have an asshole, thank you very much. I don't need another one."

  28. Couldn't resist... by KlaymenDK · · Score: 1, Insightful
    This is not my normal style, but this *is* /. after all....

    hey, Asian girls are cute, I had some images onhand, so that's what I used.

    Oh no, you didn't. I bet you had images on screen or in mind, and something else entirely in hand....! ;-)
  29. I've seen it. It's rubbish! by megaditto · · Score: 5, Funny

    The problem with young people today is they utterly lack imagination.

    Having x11 support 2 mouse pointers at once, one per each hand, would seem such a basic thing. I like having multiple windows, multiple desktops, multiple tasks going on, why do I bloody have to click on one at a time. And how about adding tactile feedback to Finder? I want larger files to feel heavier, I want music files to feel sticky...

    Or how about a multidimentional, 3-D or 4-D dock, with focus following your eye direction. After all, MacBooks do have builtin webcams, right? I want to look at the app icon on the dock, blink on it, and get it up!

    And why are we locked into using letters to represent ideas, names, and concepts? Why does a picture file have to be named "blue-duck.jpg", I want to make a 3-D blue bird image to be it's 'name', not a string of ASCII crap. And why can't we search pictures and music files like we should be able to? 'Victoria, high quality, find all the music files with voice of Jerry Springer saying 'hello', find all the pictures containing a girl with red hair?' not so bloody hard now, is it?

    As a great visionary once said, the Internet is not a truck, it's a collection of pipes. So darnit, for my surfing I want to see some pipes, how they connect, and where they lead to, and what they contain. I don't want to read about Lebanon, I want my Mac to be smart enough to convert text not even into a sound, but into a 3-D VR scene re-enactment of the news!

    Why do windows have to look like flat pieces of paper? Why does your computer have to show documents like a typewriter? Why does a PowerPoint have to resemble decades-old slide projector presentations? Why not make it resemble a road, you walk along the road and look at the points along the way, you see what will come next (although less clear), you walk at your own pace, or fly up and see the entire thing? Why do I have to be blindfolded and shown one piece at a time, like dumb cattle lead to a slaughterhouse?

    Why not store the session on a plugged-in iPod like Sun's thin clients used to be able to do 10 years ago? Unplug it, plug into another Mac 1,000 miles away at an airport, and keep same open apps and docs restored instantly? What, macs are too pussy to do that?

    Sorry for the rant, I do not have many years left to my life, I would so much like to experience an OS I can enjoy!

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    1. Re:I've seen it. It's rubbish! by aleander · · Score: 1

      Yeah. Every Mac should come equipped with an artificial intelligence taken straight from Culture novels.

      The idea with heavy files is fun. Imagine lifting a 4.7Gb DVD image instead of going to the gym. And using the blink reflex would bring much excitement to the desktop.

      Also, a 3D re-eanactment of the war in Lebannon would be very informative. And think about the other possibilities! Think about the stock market report in such a form!

      Oh. The blue duckie. 'All Your Base Are Belong To Us, bring me the blue duckie...' wait... no... that's ASCII, just vocalized. I think I should just make a sculpture, paint it blue and cram it into the CD-drive, therefore opening the Blue Duckie.

      And to open the stock market report I would have to re-enact the whole day in the market. Hm. That would surely expand my creativity.

      The pipes are great as well. Imagine replacing those clunky Firefoxes with an interactive version of the 'pipes' screensaver. *WHEEE*

      The road-replacing-slides is a great expansion to the idea of slides. It would be even better in discouraging the listeners from paying attention to actual content.

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    2. Re:I've seen it. It's rubbish! by krnlg · · Score: 1

      I would love to see something that follows your eye movements - surely if its not possible now it won't be long until it is..

    3. Re:I've seen it. It's rubbish! by LKM · · Score: 1
      Also, a 3D re-eanactment of the war in Lebannon would be very informative.

      I know an even better application for this technology. Type

      Me having sex with Jenna J. and Asia C. at the same time

      Convert to 3D-enactment.

    4. Re:I've seen it. It's rubbish! by Nocterro · · Score: 2, Funny

      I want music files to feel sticky...
      Wouldn't that be porn files? [ducks]

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    5. Re:I've seen it. It's rubbish! by Aqua+OS+X · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The more features you add to an OS the better it is.

      That's what I've learned from this contest.

      Ignore the fact that the finder, like explorer, it's a fucked up hodgepodge of mixed conventions and metaphors... just cram some more features into to it. Tired of having a desktop or dock cluttered with several windows all viewing the same god damn directory? Well now you can have those windows hidden in finder tabs! Weee!! Now you can forget about currently opened windows even faster!! RAM be damned!

      Or what about viewing windows with windows in side of them!! Sure it's not a MacOS convention at all, but wouldn't it be awesome? Ohh, and make sure to put all close boxes on the right-hand side of nested windows... Mac users are accustom to seeing it on the left hand side, and you're going to want to confuse or slow them down.

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      Ughh, but seriously, those entries where full of human factors disasters.

      As if OS X doesn't have a enough of them already.

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    6. Re:I've seen it. It's rubbish! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      how would 4-D be useful in a 2-D environment. please, explain.

      It seems that 3-D is about as useful as a dock as you're going to get. Replace the dock with a 3-D rectagle which can shift sides? How about this. Screw the desktop. Put on some goggles and get into VR. Or why not just recreate the whole interface from minority report. Put some gloves on, or more accurately "finger" covers... or something crazy like that. If you don't like looking at one thing at a time, then change the resolution and make each little document on the page only a percentage of the size of the screen. So, basically, get out of your chair and go find a great VR experience somewhere. Or better yet, go read a book by Tad Willaims called "Otherworld" and live your dream there. I think if I was forced to live the VR experience all the time it would get just as old and lame as what we're in now. And already America and prob the rest of the world can't read. You want to "re-live" the experience huh? Have you seen how kids and adults just sit in front of the TV all slack-jawed and glazed eyes? What about when you are reading the explanation of what transpired in the event. Do you have a sexy nude reporter next to your telling you what's occuring in the scene in case you just "don't understand"? What's wrong with being blindfolded. If you want the experience that you're truly describing, why not close your eyes and let all the other senes be simulated as well. I hope that my mac in the future can simulate smells and expell them into the room around me, whether it's a 5 course dinner or air freshner. After that I want to be able to have my mac control a suit so that when I relive the news experience, I can "feel" the action, the heat of the fire or the impact from a bullet. Why not make it so you can taste foods? What you want is a new branch of technology. They way a mac is now should stay as it is now, go create some fancy VR interface that does all the shit that you want. To "walk down a road" so you can see your power point presentation, is like saying that you need to take time to travel from page to page so that you can determine what the text and visuals are on each page. So, I prefer my simple 2-D screen where I don't have to take a virtual walk to empty my trash, which is where I would put your so called "rant". This is a rant. Live and Learn.

    7. Re:I've seen it. It's rubbish! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Blinking to open apps would be really cool for about 2 blinks.

      Then you need to adjust to having dry eyes to keep things from opening.

    8. Re:I've seen it. It's rubbish! by whoop · · Score: 2, Interesting

      find all the pictures containing a girl with red hair?' not so bloody hard now, is it?

      Several years ago I came upon an app on Freshmeat that had a small paint canvas where you would draw something and it would search a collection of pictures for similar images to what you drew. It was pretty good at it too. Draw a head and torso with breasts, it found upper-body shots. Scribble some red hair, it narrowed it down to redheads. So that much technology is out there, somewhere.

    9. Re:I've seen it. It's rubbish! by Frumious+Wombat · · Score: 1

      IBM demo'd an image searching system about 10 years ago, where you'd sketch the outlines of what you were looking for. Probably hasn't been refined enough yet.

      As for music feeling "sticky", I'm baffled on that one. I've owned various media over 30++ years, (sheet, vinyl album, tape, CD, banjo), and sticky was never a desirable state of affairs. However, as long as there is tactile feedback available, then classical should feel like polished wood, modern orchestral (Bartok), like sheet-metal sculpture, Rock disordered with edges everywhere, and Barry Manilow like you're sinking in lukewarm jello while barely heated tofu is poured over your head.

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    10. Re:I've seen it. It's rubbish! by Da_Weasel · · Score: 1

      Even better would be to convert it to 4D and for display on a 2D monitor...

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    11. Re:I've seen it. It's rubbish! by mmkkbb · · Score: 1

      There used to be a Mac program called FullPixelSearch which does something similar for image analysis.

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    12. Re:I've seen it. It's rubbish! by MrCopilot · · Score: 2, Funny
      As a great visionary once said, the Internet is not a truck, it's a collection of pipes. So darnit, for my surfing I want to see some pipes, how they connect, and where they lead to, and what they contain.

      How could you misquote the great Internet Sage, Ted Stevens, Chairman of the Senate Commerce Committee, ForShame.

      No, I'm not finished. I want people to understand my position, I'm not going to take a lot of time.

      They want to deliver vast amounts of information over the internet. And again, the internet is not something you just dump something on. It's not a truck.

      It's a series of tubes.

      And if you don't understand those tubes can be filled and if they are filled, when you put your message in, it gets in line and its going to be delayed by anyone that puts into that tube enormous amounts of material, enormous amounts of material.

      Thank (insert Diety here) he's there to watch over those tubes for us. One of the finest examples of Representative Government I've ever seen.

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    13. Re:I've seen it. It's rubbish! by Chelloveck · · Score: 2, Funny
      I want larger files to feel heavier, I want music files to feel sticky...

      Hey, if music files feel sticky, what about the pr0n files?

      "Gaah! What is this thing? It's all sticky and heavy as hell!" "Oh, that's just Roseanne Arnold in a thong singing the Star Spangled Banner..."

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    14. Re:I've seen it. It's rubbish! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, this mightt be better considering when staring at a computer monitor, humans blink 14 times less than they normally (are supposed to involuntarily do).

      Can you imaging click dragging to select text. *Close one eye, rotate head 20 degrees, open eye while closing other eye*

    15. Re:I've seen it. It's rubbish! by mgabrys_sf · · Score: 2, Funny

      I was thinking the same thing - most blatant request for PRON implementation EVER!

      "want to look at the app icon on the dock, blink on it, and get it up!"

      Desktop Viagra anyone?

    16. Re:I've seen it. It's rubbish! by jafac · · Score: 1

      And how about adding tactile feedback to Finder? I want larger files to feel heavier, I want music files to feel sticky...

      And I want my porn pics to feel soft, warm, and smooth. . .

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    17. Re:I've seen it. It's rubbish! by rjstanford · · Score: 1
      Barry Manilow [should feel] like you're sinking in lukewarm jello while barely heated tofu is poured over your head.

      I think I speak for everyoe here when I say, "Eww."

      Still, I suppose its better than it feeling like Barry Manilow.
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    18. Re:I've seen it. It's rubbish! by MyLongNickName · · Score: 1

      "Gaah! What is this thing? It's all sticky and heavy as hell!" "Oh, that's just Roseanne Arnold in a thong singing the Star Spangled Banner..."

      You should never, ever be allowed to post on the internet again. Damn me for researching the posts I am metamoderating.

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  30. Fake Leopard? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do you have to change its spots?

  31. The first change would be... by clickety6 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ... to get rid of the non-intuitive red/yellow/green buttons and replace them with some meaningful icons !

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    1. Re:The first change would be... by John+Nowak · · Score: 1

      Yes, like an X, a minus sign, and a plus sign... You know, the ones that show up when you hover over the buttons? I suppose we could show them all the time instead of just on hover, but I can't see how a plus sign is any more indicative of "resize window to better fit content" than a green circle really...

      And what are all these weird icons in my browser? Two triangles pointing in different directions, a magnifying glass, and a recycling arrow thing? Surely the triangles move the window left and right, the magnifying glass lets me magnify images, and the recycling arrow lets me delete a bookmark... right?

      Wait... how DO I move this window anyway? There's no move button... You mean I'm expected to know certain basic things or perhaps even read a manual to know how to use a computer? Insane!

    2. Re:The first change would be... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, like an X, a minus sign, and a plus sign... You know, the ones that show up when you hover over the buttons?

      This is called "mystery meat", and is universally reviled by usability experts.

      I should not have to hover over an object to find out what it does. Objects should not be distinguished only by colour (hel-LO, heard of colour blindness?) or position. Yes, those icons damn well SHOULD be shown all the time. That even Apple is consistently failing to meet basic usability standards is a damning indictment of how far their standards have fallen since the days, long ago, when Apple's operating systems were prized for their ease of use, not merely their fluff and eye-candy.

    3. Re:The first change would be... by dfghjk · · Score: 1

      Fascinating how mac users forget the meaning of "intuitive" when called on it. The icons referred to are definitely style over substance. Why do you have to hover over them in order to see them? Why is color used as a differentiating element? Did the guys who designed this flunk out of usability school? They should have.

    4. Re:The first change would be... by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 3, Informative

      I should not have to hover over an object to find out what it does.

      True, the icons should always be visible and probably a bit bigger.

      Objects should not be distinguished only by colour (hel-LO, heard of colour blindness?)...

      I think you mean, "objects should not be distinguished only by color." They should certainly be distinguished by color. Anyone who has ever instructed remedial users using both windows and OS X knows how much more quickly people understand "click the red one" as compared to "click the X." Also, to be fair, Apple does have a screen mode for the visually impaired that lets you use icons better suited to the color blind.

      That even Apple is consistently failing to meet basic usability standards is a damning indictment of how far their standards have fallen since the days, long ago, when Apple's operating systems were prized for their ease of use, not merely their fluff and eye-candy.

      Apple still does a better job than pretty much every other player, but they have had more UI issues than they used to. They have also made some UI advances as well. This is probably some culture clash from the old Apple folks and the newer UNIX guys they've brought on board. It has made OS X a hybrid, neither as well designed of a UI as it used to have, nor a secure as some of the other UNIX's, but somewhere in between. (Note, this is not, in my opinion, a dichotomy. It can be both more secure and more usable.)

    5. Re:The first change would be... by nateziarek · · Score: 1

      Why can't color be used as a differentiating tool, assuming there are safe-gaurds in place for disabilities? Do your traffic lights feature little cars driving, stopping and yielding, or are they just colored lights? The learning curve may be just a little steeper for someone to memorize the colors (and that's a stretch since a dash, X and square don't immediately mean anything either), but once they do, a red button in the corner has an immediate and obvious use...

      I don't see where usability suffers, and we get some eye-candy to boot.

    6. Re:The first change would be... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Durr, so traffic lights should display the words "STOP" and "GO" as well as the lights? Seriously, even color blind people can use traffic lights because -- get this -- they're distinguished by position! The close button is always first, then minimize, then zoom. It's very consistent and most people pick it up very quickly. The colors and flyovers are just reminder cues.

    7. Re:The first change would be... by thinsoldier · · Score: 1

      I use XP all night and OS X all day.
      I DESPERATELY wish there were and OPTION to always have the x - + displayed.
      Nobody has to win or loose in the decision whether or not to show them all the time!

      JUST GIVE USERS THE O P T I O N !!!!!!

      With enough OPTIONS a user can configure the os to be as minimal or cluttered as they desire.

      I couldn't give a shit about the defaults so long as it is quick and easy to change the OPTIONS that I want to change and that there enough OPTIONS to satisfy me.

    8. Re:The first change would be... by nateziarek · · Score: 1

      >> I DESPERATELY wish there were and OPTION to always have the x - + displayed. Really? I use OS X pretty much all the time, but I support many more Windows PCs. I don't think I even notice the icons or colors anymore. I guess it can't quite be muscle memory, but it is something close...

    9. Re:The first change would be... by thinsoldier · · Score: 1

      even though I've used windows for the majority of 9 years I never quite developed any muscle memory of the minimize/maximize/close buttons and never stopped relying on the x and square and other thingy icon in the buttons.

      When I'm in windows I only touch my mouse to use photoshop or maya, and before firefox's find-while-typing - to sometimes click a link in IE on pages that took too long to tab to the link I wanted.

      Honestly the keyboard navigation built into every nook and crannie of windows is my favorite think about it.

      alt, alt+space bar, ctrl+ESC, tab, the arrow keys, pressing whichever letter is underlined in a menu item, or alt+the underlined letter..... it doesnt get any better than this! ;)

      And there's the OPTION to always show the underlined letters in the menu without having to hold alt first.

      Heck, even when I'm in photoshop, illustrator or maya I still use the keyboard extensively to access repetitive menu items.

      I read somewhere that OS X has something similar but I've never figured out how to activate it or the key combinations to use it.

    10. Re:The first change would be... by thinsoldier · · Score: 1

      ...almost forgot

      windows key + many letters (yes OS X's use of the apple key makes more sense most of the time)
      the run box
      the fact that every explorer window and open/save dialog box has an actual PATH that I can edit.
      (I fucking hate Finder!)

      I'm actually looking forward to the new address bar in Vista's Explorer (even though they copied some of its abilities from some 3rd party mac apps)

    11. Re:The first change would be... by nateziarek · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I don't think I hate the finder, but I don't love it. I actually ran across an old IBM laptop today with Windows 3.1 on it. I was floored at how fast the File manager was on that sucker. Guess I've been using the Finder too long :-) I find myself navigating the Finder through the use of Apple-SHIFT-G and tab typing if I need to go somewhere drastically different than where I am -- obviously not optimal (in fact, it sucks :-)

      I also dislike OSX keyboard navigation. It seems to be more application based than it should be, meaning it works sometimes and not others. Check System Preferences under Keyboard and Mouse and then Keyboard Shortcuts...enables Full keyboard access by choosing "all Controls" (near the bottom). It doesn't help everything, but it makes it a little more bearable.

      Still, of the three OSs, I'd rather use OS X. That says something, doesn't it?

    12. Re:The first change would be... by StikyPad · · Score: 1

      Objects should not be distinguished only by colour (hel-LO, heard of colour blindness?)...

      I think you mean, "objects should not be distinguished only by color."


      Yeah.. that's probably why he said it. It all makes sense now!

  32. Merge directories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    1. Open directory.
    2. Select all files and directories in there (Command A will do this for you).
    3. Drag the collection onto the directory you want to merge onto. Wait for it to finish.
    4. Wonder why you're such a moron that you couldn't figure this out on your own.
    1. Re:Merge directories by stubear · · Score: 1

      I don't normally reply to AC's but when you do this OSX wipes the existing folder and replaces it with the new content. Try this. Create a folder on your desktop and place four or five sub folders within it. Copy some image files or whatever you want into this folder and pepper the subfolders with similar content, including subfolders. Copy this folder to another location on your system. Go back to your original folder and remove a few of the files and/or folders. Now, copy this same folder to the same place you made your copy then inspect the contents. If you changed any of the contents of your subfolders as well then try your method of copying the contents of the top level folder and lookinto the subfolders. Data is removed during the operation. Both Windows and Linux use the same term "replace" in their dialogs as well but both actually merge the contents of the directories, only overwriting files of the same name after asking. OSX should not do this. This couldn't be more user-unfriendly an operation if Apple tried.

  33. Finder is already too cluttered. by argent · · Score: 1

    Finder in Panther and Tiger is already too cluttered. The Metal Finder with he huge space-wasting tabs on the left side is an abomination, and I actually bought PathFinder to try and get away from it... but Pathfinders's even more cluttered.

    Give me the Jaguar finder, and stick small, inconspicuous, uncluttered Mozilla/Safari style tabs under the toolbar, and I'll be happy. The "shortcut" capability of the Finder tabs is already taken care of by the ability to drag files into the toolbar, so that's really all that's missing.

    I have the same reaction to the "preview tabs" in Safari in another entry. Blah. Put the preview in a tooltip-style popup when you hover over the tab, if you like, or even do a "dock magnify" effect on them... but don't waste my screen space on stuff I'm not actually working with.

    1. Re:Finder is already too cluttered. by conigs · · Score: 1
      The Metal Finder with he huge space-wasting tabs on the left side is an abomination

      Were you aware that you could simply collapse the sidebar and never have to look at it again? You just grag the divider and drag it over to the left.

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    2. Re:Finder is already too cluttered. by argent · · Score: 1

      Were you aware that you could simply collapse the sidebar and never have to look at it again?

      Did you read the rest of my message, where I wrote "Give me the Jaguar finder, and stick small, inconspicuous, uncluttered Mozilla/Safari style tabs under the toolbar, and I'll be happy."

      But in any case, that still doesn't get rid of the abomination of Metal that even iTunes has abandoned.

  34. My dream user interface... by argent · · Score: 1

    ... couldn't fit on a web page, except maybe using VRML.

    http://scarydevil.com/~peter/io/3dworld.html

  35. Possible workaround by MisterSquid · · Score: 1
    I want Apple to have folders merge their contents when files or folders of the same name are encountered. Currently there is no easy way to syncoronize the contents of folders with the same name

    I'm guessing that this functionality is provided in either Windows or Linux. I honestly wonder how it works (little experience with Windows and less w/ Linux).

    One possible solution is selecting all the files in a directory (CMD-A is the keyboard shortcut) and moving them into a second directory. In the Finder, you will be told/asked

    An item named "SOMETHING" already exists in this location. Do you want to replace it with the one you are moving?

    You can choose "Don't Replace", "Stop", or "Replace", with the option to "Apply to all". Choosing "Replace" with "Apply to all" will overwrite the old files, add unique files, and leave files not present in the source folder (but present in the destination folder) untouched. "Don't Replace" with "Apply to all" will only add unique files from the source folder. If you hold down the CMD key during this operation the contents will be merged, leaving behind an empty source folder. If you just drag, you will have a copy of the old source folder.

    This is may not be as simple as the implementation you're thinking of, but maybe it will work for you.

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  36. A quick and dirty one with a reason by Ilgaz · · Score: 1

    I fired Shapeshifter (theme util) http://www.unsanity.com/ , got more than perfect windows XP theme by Max Rudenberg http://www.maxthemes.com/themes/?theme=Mac%20OS%20 XP (free) and fake leopard about box http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/ 30318 (free)

    That was a perfect plan including opening a archive.org page with Apple advertising G4 as some supercomputer. (They now say Mactel is 4x faster)

    Here is the result which I am not very proud of:
    http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=faketestt t0.png

    I am not a graphics artist of course and my toolset is limited. That is not an excuse. You know why I gave up and didn't work on menu extras and add the trollish (4x faster) to about box? I could NOT STAND TO XP! Yes, I was surprised that as a guy who used PC until 2003, I get psychologically effected by a theme!

    If Apple has more consumers like me, they can switch to anything, any CPU and still win. Note I am one of rare people out there which never had virus infection,worm infection, spyware infection in my life.

  37. Half of comment missing by Ilgaz · · Score: 1

    (found a bug in Slashdot code, will report it, apologies re-posting original comment)

    They need to change the font caching architecture seriously. I got iDefrag, a advanced disk defrag here (video guy here,I deal with huge files) with online defrag capabilities and it can show which file has fragments while disk online (in use)

    Annex.aux right now have 10 fragments (3.52 mb file) Of course it is a cache and bound to be fragmented but if I see only horrible fragmentation exist on that file only, I suspect something is done wrong by OS X. I think file is also so highly active that core system can't even try to hot defrag it.

    It is one of font caches. This is a very "stock" system and never used in DTP. I can't imagine DTP people's font caches right now.

    I don't like the idea of clearing caches weekly etc while having licensed utilities here which are capable of doing it. I notice on www sites and usenet that people suggest cleaning their caches to eachother having problems. While I am about to hit "reply" and explain why clearing cache wouldn't mean anything, I notice the OP posts reply saying "it fixed my problem, thanks"

    If you think about half of the market of OS X consists of DTP professionals it is almost tragi-comic that OS X having problem with Font Caches which can even crash entire system.

    The professional font company Linotype has coded some iTMS like font utility (freeware), one of the main options of program is to clear font caches. http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/ 27903

    You can imagine the reports they get from their customers if they added such option.

    1. Re:Half of comment missing by dr.badass · · Score: 1

      It is one of font caches. This is a very "stock" system and never used in DTP. I can't imagine DTP people's font caches right now.

      Most DTP people would know that if fonts are crashing their system, it's probably because the the font itself is broken. That's why even FontBook comes with a validation capability. If you're having problems, you should validate any fonts you've installed. Clearing the cache might make the problem go away, but only until you re-load the bad font. It is not a fix.

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  38. Bit minimalist by tehcyder · · Score: 4, Funny
    All I got was a blank white page and a pointer with an hourglass over it.

    Personally, I prefer a slightly richer user experience.

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    1. Re:Bit minimalist by JamesGecko · · Score: 1

      Dang. Must have been some openbox window manager fans who entered.

  39. My favourite feature by tehcyder · · Score: 3, Insightful
    "Cut" added to the Finder Edit Menu on the runner up entry.

    I'm sold.

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    1. Re:My favourite feature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey - that's mine (but I don't remember my sd nick). It is the one feature I miss form Windows, being able to cut a file to move it, instead of just copying and pasting. The contest wasn't all about create a completely new paradigm; in fact, I think that would go against the idea of making a "fake" (i.e. something believable). For my entry it was adding things that I want to see and would like to use. That's a pretty small point between all five graphics. Give the contest some credit.

  40. I missed the point by eples · · Score: 1
    new window styles to a complete rethink of a window based work environment, these are sure to make any UI geek excited
    I didn't see anything very exciting. It's still all gray, all squares and rectangles. It looks the same to me! Come on, this is innovation?

    Disclaimer: I'm not an Apple user - haven't really used OSX much except for at the Apple store.
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  41. Re:dave WANNABE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    His latest creation, Inquisitor, simply steals Google's Suggest Javascript and wraps in a pretty package (and nowhere does he credit Google for powering his app). Calling him a Developer is a bit of a stretch, he's really just a glorified UI designer with a talent for copy and paste.

  42. Re:Merge directories defined by Raffaello · · Score: 1


    What you are describing, what the Finder does already, and what cp -r does, is copying not merging. Merging is when the most recent version of each file is kept regardless of whether the more recent version is in the source directory or the destination directory.

  43. I'm a colour blind mac user by AnEmbodiedMind · · Score: 1
    Objects should not be distinguished only by colour (hel-LO, heard of colour blindness?)
    I'm colour blind and have no problem in general with these buttons on the mac because they ARE coded for more than just colour - in this case they also use position: Left, right, and middle.

    Now when I DO have trouble is when this gets switched into a vertical visual like the zoomed version of the iTunes equilizer - I can never remember which does which and from memory it doesn't even show you the icon when you put your mouse over...

    1. Re:I'm a colour blind mac user by TiMac · · Score: 1

      I can never remember which does which and from memory it doesn't even show you the icon when you put your mouse over...

      Yes, it does...at least 6.0.5 does.

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    2. Re:I'm a colour blind mac user by AnEmbodiedMind · · Score: 1

      YES! Thank god they fixed that :-D

  44. Apple CANNOT change directory merging behavior by Disoriented · · Score: 1

    Consider this: Mac OS X stores many things (including applications) as packages. For example, Skype.app looks like an application in the Finder, but it's actually a directory containing several files in a number of subdirectories.

    When I download a new Skype.app from the Net to replace my existing Skype.app, I drag the new one into the /Applications folder. The Finder asks if I want to replace the old Skype.app. Replacing it completely is the correct behavior. I do not want any remnants of the old one to be left around inside the .app package.

  45. The winning entry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    A Finder full of videos of hot Japanese school girls in miniskirts.

    Heh. Where would geek masturbation be without "the speed and power of Intel processors"?

  46. Question by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 1

    Why hasn't something like this been done for an interface which users can actually change (Gnome, KDE)? Not just a screenshot, but an actual new feature?

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  47. or ditto, or cpio, or tar, or zip, or... by mzs · · Score: 1

    You (and I) get the idea.