"...but it's THEIR responsibility to make things work again if an Apple upgrade breaks things (maliciously or not)."
Coupled with your point, a huge purchasing point to an Apple customer is customer support, of both the hardware and software, all under one roof. It's one of Apple's core strategic points. It's what makes them "Apple". So, not only would this bring its appeal down quite a bit for the average Mac purchaser, you now also have a company making it's software to run on it's own hardware and nothing else, and will not worry one bit about any issues its software has on any other hardware used. Not one bit. And if Apple ever licensed it, it would effectively make them Windows and this is the last thing a hardware company would do. So it must be illegal, or was created to start some loophole challenge to Apple's license. Either way I believe this will be crushed in seconds.
"SOMEONE explain to me why any reasonable user should need this resource-hogging crap?"
Because you seem to not realize the difference between "reasonable" and "average user". They are completely different I'm afraid... to be reasonable is one thing, to be a gullible newbie (90% of the computer using base) is another. Why do the intelligent/. readers/posters still not realize that they are not a representative of the average user? Oh wait...
When Dionysus turned water into wine, we understand that as a myth.
When Romulus is described as the Son of God, born of a virgin, we understand that as a myth.
When Vespatian's spittle healed a blind man, we understand that as a myth.
When Apollonius of Tyana raised a girl from death, we understand that as a myth.
etc... etc... etc... Jesus was just a guy that had Pagan mythological stories thrown on his name decades after his death to start a religion. Nothing more.
"..is touted as the most powerful and energy efficient fan of its size (no mention of it being a "new" idea). The device produces three times the flow rate of a typical small mechanical fan and is one-fourth the size. The technology has the power to cool a 25W chip with a device smaller than one cubic-cm..."
I think the above is what's important. I believe the title of the article is just a tad misleading...
"Well, if you're not doing something bad, who cares if the government is watching?"
Agreed, I hear that on occasion too. I simply remind them that freedom is nothing more than a state of mind. Yes, it's a dangerous state of mind in some places on this Earth, but it's nothing more than a state of mind nonetheless. Each bar that is put in place like domestic spying, arrest without due process, cameras EVERYwhere, cops pulling over people without probable cause, etc... builds the prison a little more, and forces me to feel less free, and that's the tragedy. This, coming from the country that's supposed to be spreading this sort of "freedom" around the world? Yikes...
No, if you understand the power of freedom on the human will, things like this should make you cringe, even if you aren't doing anything "wrong".
I like the UN's 2005 panel description: ""intended to cause death or serious bodily harm to civilians or non-combatants with the purpose of intimidating a population or compelling a government or an international organization to do or abstain from doing any act."
I don't have a problem with this, and neither should anyone else. That's the point. If you intend to kill civilians or non-combatants, then you shouldn't be doing it.
Therein lies the rub. I have still yet to find a true definition of what a terrorist is. Ask a gov official and he'll usually balk. I have been told that this is difficult to do as most definitions would then apply the "terrorist" tag to themselves...
Kinda like when Israel and the US were the only abstaining votes at the UN when they were deciding what the definition should be... US backed Israel because most definitions would have applied to them, and us.
What no one is understanding... if the iPhone was ubiquitous, which it is not and isn't supposed to be, then there may be an issue. If you went to the store and only had iPhones to choose from for your cellular needs, then again, this might be a problem (like say, purchasing a computer for example).
But that's not what the iPhone is.
From Apple: "Firefox? Why? Safari is installed and working fine. Why fuck that up? Skype? This is a CELL PHONE. Why in the world would we allow Skype on the thing? You guys do realize that 95% of the cell phone/iPhone purchasers have no idea what you are talking about, and never will, right? Therefore, if you do not want an iPhone, then don't buy one. We sold 1 million of these in 74 days, and this just makes it better. We're sorry if the geeks are pissed, we don't care. Hack something else. One of the biggest reasons people buy our stuff is because we control what goes on it for the most pat. This keeps support costs, frustration and time lost to a minimum for most of our customers. Want something that you can install whatever you want on it, giving it more points of failure, be my guest."
True, so let's take the data we have counting millions. What are the murder rates in other countries that play the same, and even more violent games and media, like Japan?
And then compare it to just one of our major cities...
It's freaking obvious to anyone who has paid any attention over the last 50 years... social darwinism. Launch the greediest of your society to the top (yay US!). That's just how the rules work in this country. Fuck your neighbor, and if anyone touches my useless shit I'll kill all you motherfuckers!
Sorry. But it's true. When I talk to people in some other countries, they see us as a bunch of gun toting madmen with wild staring eyes, having to always watch your back, etc... like you have to now in the streets of Baghdad (yay US!)
I mean hell, when you tell every single person living in the country that your freedoms will be taken from you in order to stop those that would injure America's "way of life" (see above), or that you must give 500 BILLION dollars from these asshats to go and kill a bunch of people instead of using it (up to date) to build over 38 THOUSAND new Elementary schools, or to have been able to give away over 81 MILLION College scholarships. etc... etc... etc...
After a while you wonder why there aren't just random killings almost daily at regular old shopping malls and schools here... oh wait...
"If it's for school only, then the 13" macbook is perfect for the backpack and can run your choice of Linux or OS X or both, plus a number of legacy applications from Windows."
Um, it can also run current Windows apps using BootCamp with no emulation, full hardware support, or you can use Parallels, or VMWare.
At that point it can run more applications (outside of hardware limits like having an integrated GPU) than any Windows machine, natively. Kinda nice...
And things like rising from an untimely death after being nailed to a cross (or tree) three days after dying (and then celebrating), having a last supper, being born of a virgin, being the son of a god, etc... were all prevalent beliefs of pagan mythology at the time of and well before Jesus. A guy who had these "myths" thrown upon his name decades after he was dead in order to start a religion.
People forget that the history of most religions are far more "earth-bound" than they like to realize...
Well, there you have it. If it "looks" flimsy on a web page image, then it must be so...
Seriously though, if you have ever actually handled one of these those fears disappear pretty quickly. I've configured two of them in the last week and they are surprisingly solid.
... not to mention a complete lack of understanding that we all (US) do not start off in this world with the same opportunities as others. Race, class, gender all create barriers that "some" do not have to climb over. A libertarian's "hands off" approach has always caused me to turn away from them for this purpose. Without "initiating force" against these invisible and prevalent prison bars in the form of self governance, it would only get worse I'm afraid.
"That religion is the only one that has an automatic death penalty for changing your religion."
True, if you question your faith in the Christian religion you are only going to be tortured in hell for all eternity. I'm not so sure which one is worse...
But, that's how all faith based religions work. There must be very strict punishments for questioning faith as the religion would fail otherwise. Imagine instilling critical thought into a faith based religion... *kaplooeee!*
"This machine makes too many compromises to be a primary machine for the serious poweruser or developer."
As it's been said a gazzilion times, it's not meant to be a desktop replacement, or a "power" users portable machine. It's an ultra-portable, meant to be nothing more.
"Way full of holes"? Really? I read the entire thread of "discussion" that you pointed to, and found very little in the way of actual discussion. Did you provide the right link?
Also, here are some FAQs with replies to some questions about the movie.
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"...but it's THEIR responsibility to make things work again if an Apple upgrade breaks things (maliciously or not)."
Coupled with your point, a huge purchasing point to an Apple customer is customer support, of both the hardware and software, all under one roof. It's one of Apple's core strategic points. It's what makes them "Apple". So, not only would this bring its appeal down quite a bit for the average Mac purchaser, you now also have a company making it's software to run on it's own hardware and nothing else, and will not worry one bit about any issues its software has on any other hardware used. Not one bit. And if Apple ever licensed it, it would effectively make them Windows and this is the last thing a hardware company would do. So it must be illegal, or was created to start some loophole challenge to Apple's license. Either way I believe this will be crushed in seconds.
"SOMEONE explain to me why any reasonable user should need this resource-hogging crap?"
/. readers/posters still not realize that they are not a representative of the average user? Oh wait...
Because you seem to not realize the difference between "reasonable" and "average user". They are completely different I'm afraid... to be reasonable is one thing, to be a gullible newbie (90% of the computer using base) is another. Why do the intelligent
"Abstruse": Hey! That's not a... oh wait, there it is.
And, if you have an Intel Mac with a non-integrated GPU, you can just run Windows... and all of it's games... on your Mac.
Just an FYI!
True:
When Dionysus turned water into wine, we understand that as a myth.
When Romulus is described as the Son of God, born of a virgin, we understand that as a myth.
When Vespatian's spittle healed a blind man, we understand that as a myth.
When Apollonius of Tyana raised a girl from death, we understand that as a myth.
etc... etc... etc... Jesus was just a guy that had Pagan mythological stories thrown on his name decades after his death to start a religion. Nothing more.
"..is touted as the most powerful and energy efficient fan of its size (no mention of it being a "new" idea). The device produces three times the flow rate of a typical small mechanical fan and is one-fourth the size. The technology has the power to cool a 25W chip with a device smaller than one cubic-cm..."
I think the above is what's important. I believe the title of the article is just a tad misleading...
"Well, if you're not doing something bad, who cares if the government is watching?"
Agreed, I hear that on occasion too. I simply remind them that freedom is nothing more than a state of mind. Yes, it's a dangerous state of mind in some places on this Earth, but it's nothing more than a state of mind nonetheless. Each bar that is put in place like domestic spying, arrest without due process, cameras EVERYwhere, cops pulling over people without probable cause, etc... builds the prison a little more, and forces me to feel less free, and that's the tragedy. This, coming from the country that's supposed to be spreading this sort of "freedom" around the world? Yikes...
No, if you understand the power of freedom on the human will, things like this should make you cringe, even if you aren't doing anything "wrong".
Sweet. And I'll invent a pizza cooking centrifuge, we'll both be rich!
I like the UN's 2005 panel description: ""intended to cause death or serious bodily harm to civilians or non-combatants with the purpose of intimidating a population or compelling a government or an international organization to do or abstain from doing any act."
I don't have a problem with this, and neither should anyone else. That's the point. If you intend to kill civilians or non-combatants, then you shouldn't be doing it.
It is a good thing, for MOST people. That's the point. Read my post again... only the geeks are pissed.
Therein lies the rub. I have still yet to find a true definition of what a terrorist is. Ask a gov official and he'll usually balk. I have been told that this is difficult to do as most definitions would then apply the "terrorist" tag to themselves...
Kinda like when Israel and the US were the only abstaining votes at the UN when they were deciding what the definition should be... US backed Israel because most definitions would have applied to them, and us.
What no one is understanding... if the iPhone was ubiquitous, which it is not and isn't supposed to be, then there may be an issue. If you went to the store and only had iPhones to choose from for your cellular needs, then again, this might be a problem (like say, purchasing a computer for example).
But that's not what the iPhone is.
From Apple: "Firefox? Why? Safari is installed and working fine. Why fuck that up? Skype? This is a CELL PHONE. Why in the world would we allow Skype on the thing? You guys do realize that 95% of the cell phone/iPhone purchasers have no idea what you are talking about, and never will, right? Therefore, if you do not want an iPhone, then don't buy one. We sold 1 million of these in 74 days, and this just makes it better. We're sorry if the geeks are pissed, we don't care. Hack something else. One of the biggest reasons people buy our stuff is because we control what goes on it for the most pat. This keeps support costs, frustration and time lost to a minimum for most of our customers. Want something that you can install whatever you want on it, giving it more points of failure, be my guest."
True, so let's take the data we have counting millions. What are the murder rates in other countries that play the same, and even more violent games and media, like Japan?
And then compare it to just one of our major cities...
It's freaking obvious to anyone who has paid any attention over the last 50 years... social darwinism. Launch the greediest of your society to the top (yay US!). That's just how the rules work in this country. Fuck your neighbor, and if anyone touches my useless shit I'll kill all you motherfuckers!
Sorry. But it's true. When I talk to people in some other countries, they see us as a bunch of gun toting madmen with wild staring eyes, having to always watch your back, etc... like you have to now in the streets of Baghdad (yay US!)
I mean hell, when you tell every single person living in the country that your freedoms will be taken from you in order to stop those that would injure America's "way of life" (see above), or that you must give 500 BILLION dollars from these asshats to go and kill a bunch of people instead of using it (up to date) to build over 38 THOUSAND new Elementary schools, or to have been able to give away over 81 MILLION College scholarships. etc... etc... etc...
After a while you wonder why there aren't just random killings almost daily at regular old shopping malls and schools here... oh wait...
So, the MacBook Air won't be a hit, the 3G iPhone is on its way, and he bitches about 24 hours not being enough time to watch a movie that you rented?
Seriously, not sure why people still listen to him...
"It's obvious that FSM would apply more noodly appendage force to non-equatorial motion.
Sorry, had to fix that.
"If it's for school only, then the 13" macbook is perfect for the backpack and can run your choice of Linux or OS X or both, plus a number of legacy applications from Windows."
Um, it can also run current Windows apps using BootCamp with no emulation, full hardware support, or you can use Parallels, or VMWare.
At that point it can run more applications (outside of hardware limits like having an integrated GPU) than any Windows machine, natively. Kinda nice...
"...forced to confront the possibility that we really don't have a clue about anything."
Really? Not one clue, about anything? I think that would be presumptuous in the other extreme.
Correct.
And things like rising from an untimely death after being nailed to a cross (or tree) three days after dying (and then celebrating), having a last supper, being born of a virgin, being the son of a god, etc... were all prevalent beliefs of pagan mythology at the time of and well before Jesus. A guy who had these "myths" thrown upon his name decades after he was dead in order to start a religion.
People forget that the history of most religions are far more "earth-bound" than they like to realize...
Well, there you have it. If it "looks" flimsy on a web page image, then it must be so...
Seriously though, if you have ever actually handled one of these those fears disappear pretty quickly. I've configured two of them in the last week and they are surprisingly solid.
"...stop bitching and moaning and do something about it."
Why? Hillary is waaaay ahead of me. There's no way I could have done a better job of helping Obama get elected.
"Up With People!"
... not to mention a complete lack of understanding that we all (US) do not start off in this world with the same opportunities as others. Race, class, gender all create barriers that "some" do not have to climb over. A libertarian's "hands off" approach has always caused me to turn away from them for this purpose. Without "initiating force" against these invisible and prevalent prison bars in the form of self governance, it would only get worse I'm afraid.
Anarcho-syndicalis is my cup of tea...
"That religion is the only one that has an automatic death penalty for changing your religion."
True, if you question your faith in the Christian religion you are only going to be tortured in hell for all eternity. I'm not so sure which one is worse...
But, that's how all faith based religions work. There must be very strict punishments for questioning faith as the religion would fail otherwise. Imagine instilling critical thought into a faith based religion... *kaplooeee!*
"This machine makes too many compromises to be a primary machine for the serious poweruser or developer."
As it's been said a gazzilion times, it's not meant to be a desktop replacement, or a "power" users portable machine. It's an ultra-portable, meant to be nothing more.
"Way full of holes"? Really? I read the entire thread of "discussion" that you pointed to, and found very little in the way of actual discussion. Did you provide the right link?
Also, here are some FAQs with replies to some questions about the movie.
"Is there hope for Christianity?"
No, no there isn't.