however now they'll probably charge you as a terrorist if you dumpster drive in the wrong place.
What does that mean? Are there any cases of this happening? Or are you making things up for the purpose of whipping up some hysteria? Is there any part of your post based on verifiable facts?
But if you really want to "try out new things with computers and security", it's not that hard to set up a network at home, other people tend to not like random people snooping around their networks, anyway. If you need a Cisco router to try out some new crack, maybe you shouldn't be doing it anyway? On the other hand, you can buy a router on ebay, and knock yourself out... What's stopping you?
What makes you think free speach issues have ANYTHING AT ALL to do with it? Looks to me more like they are taking a powder for a spell: Expect a new release, under a new regime, sometime in 2006/2007. Don't see much in the way of blather over "free speach" issues at their web site...
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...if you can't maintain and be compliant with the standards, then why even try?
They are trying to be standards compliant? Anyway, also keep in mind the rumors that even FF was not acid compliant out of the door...
On a different note, I agree with you, IE ought to toss in the towel on the W3C complience thing, they need to bite the bullet and just admit they plan to march to their own drummer.
To go any further, I'd need to add 10-30% more time on every source file, which is not an option given the production pace in my environment.
I would imagine that the type of work environment has a lot to do with the amount and quality of commenting as well. For example, I don't work in a commercial production environment; I do R and D in a government agency, which means fairly soft deadlines. I have a lot of respect for people that pump out apps that actually work, and am fairly forgiving of bugs in commercial software for this reason.
I don't know why people (in general) don't like to comment code. I comment mostly for me, so a year or two down the line I'll know why I did something (I've found over the years of writing code, I may think I'll remember, but that often does not end up the case). In the end this selfish purpose ends up helping when other people need to maintain my code (other people fucking around with my code? Never).
Well, you'd be wrong in this case. Have a nice day!:)
So you are conceding to the parent Anonymous Coward that your comment is indeed asinine? Anyway, we live in a society, not an Anarchy. Society makes the rules as to what is good for the whole, or not. Most clear thinkers agree that inciting violence is not good for the whole.
I don't think hardware companies should be forced to offer anything they don't want to offer, it's their business what they make and sell. And, that is exactly the point, if Microsoft is exerting pressure on them to only offer only Windows, than THAT and THAT ALONE should be the issue. If Microsoft is exerting pressure on them to raise the price on OS free or Linux boxes, than THAT and THAT ALONE should be the issue. But assuming a hardware company is free of outside pressure, they should be able to offer whatever they want.
I also wonder if the original poster is correct, do "Western" governments have websites that advocate killing Muslims because they are Muslim? I suspect not. Certainly there are factions of "Westerners" that believe this, but my guess is their websites don't last long either. Hypocritical or not, al-Qaeda websites (or any websites) that advocate murder based on religious faith should be shut down.
Interesting that the parent has been modded "offtopic". Indeed the Slashdot hurd is anti-China for their censorship activities. And in reading many of the posts here, I see the same lines of thought, so in that, posters are being consistent.
Furthermore, "encouraging" violence is part of everyday political opinions: US politicians do it just about every day.
So you condone inciting violence because (according to you) we do it too? Don't tell me it's OK for them because we do it, tell me it's not OK for us OR them.
We criticize terrorists for choosing violence over speech to make their point. Then we take away their ability to speak.
These sites where not for the ability to speak, as you imply, about "political opinions", but the ability to encurage and coordinate the kind of violence that we have recently seen.
...because they were busy arresting some copyright violator...
Ah yes. It's too bad the FBI can handle only one investigation at a time and only has one field officer... Seriously, why is the parent "insightful" at all? What "insight" does it bring to the table? It's like saying "Gee, I hope the Seattle Fire Department can handle more than one call at a time..." Well, of course they can. Why doesn't the parent just say what he/she means: "I don't like coptright law, and the FBI should have better things to do". That, of course, would not be as witty, but the parent could say something that actually was "insightful".
This is a serious issue for businesses like coffee shops that have table space and depend on people actually purchasing stuff to survive. While there are exceptions, "Table squaters" take up valuble space but produce very limited income for the shop owner, and generally just "can't understand" why there is anything at all wrong with sucking up free resources without returning something like a purchase every so often. A single purchase of a cup of something does not entitle people to plant themselves at a table all day.
Another issue is that people who do this do not add anything to the attractivness of the business as a social gathering place.
People who harp on Microsoft could better spend their time pumping up OSS. NOBODY but OSS listens to that kind of thing seriously anymore (did they ever?). It's preaching to the choir, which is a complete waste of time.
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What does that mean? Are there any cases of this happening? Or are you making things up for the purpose of whipping up some hysteria? Is there any part of your post based on verifiable facts?
But if you really want to "try out new things with computers and security", it's not that hard to set up a network at home, other people tend to not like random people snooping around their networks, anyway. If you need a Cisco router to try out some new crack, maybe you shouldn't be doing it anyway? On the other hand, you can buy a router on ebay, and knock yourself out... What's stopping you?
What makes you think free speach issues have ANYTHING AT ALL to do with it? Looks to me more like they are taking a powder for a spell: Expect a new release, under a new regime, sometime in 2006/2007. Don't see much in the way of blather over "free speach" issues at their web site...
Since Windows is not Open Source Software, my guess is this does not apply.
What is this "reading the article" you speak of?
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They are trying to be standards compliant? Anyway, also keep in mind the rumors that even FF was not acid compliant out of the door...
On a different note, I agree with you, IE ought to toss in the towel on the W3C complience thing, they need to bite the bullet and just admit they plan to march to their own drummer.
South African Rand. But more importantly, about 13 million Bangladesh Taka.
I would imagine that the type of work environment has a lot to do with the amount and quality of commenting as well. For example, I don't work in a commercial production environment; I do R and D in a government agency, which means fairly soft deadlines. I have a lot of respect for people that pump out apps that actually work, and am fairly forgiving of bugs in commercial software for this reason.
I don't know why people (in general) don't like to comment code. I comment mostly for me, so a year or two down the line I'll know why I did something (I've found over the years of writing code, I may think I'll remember, but that often does not end up the case). In the end this selfish purpose ends up helping when other people need to maintain my code (other people fucking around with my code? Never).
Most people skipped DEFCON because of warrent issues.
So you are conceding to the parent Anonymous Coward that your comment is indeed asinine? Anyway, we live in a society, not an Anarchy. Society makes the rules as to what is good for the whole, or not. Most clear thinkers agree that inciting violence is not good for the whole.
I don't think hardware companies should be forced to offer anything they don't want to offer, it's their business what they make and sell. And, that is exactly the point, if Microsoft is exerting pressure on them to only offer only Windows, than THAT and THAT ALONE should be the issue. If Microsoft is exerting pressure on them to raise the price on OS free or Linux boxes, than THAT and THAT ALONE should be the issue. But assuming a hardware company is free of outside pressure, they should be able to offer whatever they want.
It's interesting how "Bush-speak" has made it into everyday vocab.
I also wonder if the original poster is correct, do "Western" governments have websites that advocate killing Muslims because they are Muslim? I suspect not. Certainly there are factions of "Westerners" that believe this, but my guess is their websites don't last long either. Hypocritical or not, al-Qaeda websites (or any websites) that advocate murder based on religious faith should be shut down.
Interesting that the parent has been modded "offtopic". Indeed the Slashdot hurd is anti-China for their censorship activities. And in reading many of the posts here, I see the same lines of thought, so in that, posters are being consistent.
So you condone inciting violence because (according to you) we do it too? Don't tell me it's OK for them because we do it, tell me it's not OK for us OR them .
These sites where not for the ability to speak, as you imply, about "political opinions", but the ability to encurage and coordinate the kind of violence that we have recently seen.
Did they say they owned the trademark? I thought they said they owned the technology. Two different things.
Ah yes. It's too bad the FBI can handle only one investigation at a time and only has one field officer... Seriously, why is the parent "insightful" at all? What "insight" does it bring to the table? It's like saying "Gee, I hope the Seattle Fire Department can handle more than one call at a time..." Well, of course they can. Why doesn't the parent just say what he/she means: "I don't like coptright law, and the FBI should have better things to do". That, of course, would not be as witty, but the parent could say something that actually was "insightful".
This "new planet". Does it run Linux?
I've often found it interesting that while many forums are blocked, Slashdot isn't (neither is K5)...
Another issue is that people who do this do not add anything to the attractivness of the business as a social gathering place.
Many organizations that block access to sites also block the Wayback Machine. Here in DoD where I work, this is the case.
People who harp on Microsoft could better spend their time pumping up OSS. NOBODY but OSS listens to that kind of thing seriously anymore (did they ever?). It's preaching to the choir, which is a complete waste of time.
But really, this has nothing at all to do with MS. It has to do with agreeing to do something, and keeping your word.