Most people outside of IT (and many who do work in IT) could not care any less about the politics of software. They don't really care about this "Open Source" thing. And why should they? What they care about are applications that install and work as close to flawlessly as possible (or at least allow them to accomplish their tasks with a minimum of problems). I really don't think you'll get much more than "Gee, that's interesting... By the way, after the meeting, can you come by my cube and show me what I'm doing wrong with this Excel macro?" If I where you, I'd "introduce" specific applications (like OpenOffice, Firefox, other more specific applications...), not the concept of "Open Source". The accounting / administrative / human resources / other non-IT folks cjust have other things to worry about.
Jesus, cool your jets! Just like you, Mr. Roberson is entitled to his opinion. He makes some interesting points. It's something educated people do, have discussions of ideas.
I discovered via logs that recently someone made about 50 remote login attempts to the server, guessing at passwords, but it would appear that they were not able to gain access.
If you really want to, try to find out who admins the other server, and make contact. Are they competitors, that would change a lot of things. BUT, this sort of thing happens several times a day to the servers I admin. Generally, there is nothing to be done about it, trying to notify the offending source is usually ignored. More than not (precisely always), it's Windows boxes infected with bots.
So you admit to paying the M$ tax before loading linux?
What is "M$"? I admit nothing of the sort. I admit to buying a server which happens to come with Windows, which I can not get any cheaper without Windows. If I don't like that, I admit to looking into some other option. But I don't really care if it comes with Windows, because I admit that I will install anything I want on it. I admit also that it is unlikly that they would offer it cheaper without Windows. I admit that I think most people here froth a bit much at the mouth.
You buy what is offered, or you can build perfictly decent PC grade boxes yourself. It's no big issue to me because I know that even without any OS, the OEM price for a PC will not go down. So why should I care?
Microsoft's deals with major PC vendors lock users out from alternative options, such as Linux
How can Microsoft's deals with anyone "lock users out" of alternative options? Anyone who wants can download a Linux distro, and unless you play games, most come with everything you need to net surf, check email, and do word processing. So, this statement sounds to me like hyperbole. I don't much like Windows or Microsoft much either, but whatever their relationships with OEMs is, it didn't stop me from loading RHEL on a server I bought that originally had OEM Win2k on it...
For my TS, although I already had S, they talked to all my friends, interviewed all my neighbors in every place I've lived over the past 9 years (9 years?), employers, and so on. Credit check, IRS, fed, state, and local cop check... Took 18 months end-to-end. And the work I do is not that exciting.
m not sure how MS expects to keep pushing this down people's throats.
Most people don't want to be treated as thieves...
Because most people accept that, regardless of the fact that "Windows sucks", it's wrong (and possibly illegal) to use pirated software. They understand that in using pirated software, they can't expect to be treated the same as if they had purchased the software in a store. It all makes sense, really.
..., and I can see some general backlash coming to MS from this...
Really? When? This type of thing has been Microsoft policy for quite some time, and to date, there has been no discernable consumer backlash, probably because people realize that they give up certain rights when they use non-legit copies of Windows. It's quite simple, really.
I've been told by several people to keep it on my resume because just knowing that I've had it and can get it again can be valuable.After 18 month of inactivity, having had a Secret means nothing at all, they simply are not that hard to get, the time it takes is because of back-log. Essentially the same issue with TS, except the investigation is a bit deeper.
Nail on the head. Like you, mine is pre-911, but these days it takes longer. Funny thing, they ask the same questions and do the same investigation. The difference is the "Military-Industrial Complex" has grown quite a bit, so more people are trying to get them.
Walking in the door, takes about 1.5 to 2 years to get a TS, a little less for a Secret. But they are worth gold, there are many jobs that regardless of your quals, a potential employer will just walk away if you don't already have at least a Secret.
The "nuke" family of CMS applications not only all look and feel more or less the same, they have a very bad rep for crappy code and a high number of security issues.
Drupal, Plone, Mambo. All EASY to set up and admin.
Though GeekLog seems to be a Nuke clone, I have heard good things about it.
Well, with the addition of (perhaps) MamboServer, you already have the top easy to use CMS apps. I also hear good things about Plone. Typo3 is a bit heavy-duty, and I hear mixed reviews. And since this "Ask Slashdot" is really a dupe, let me be the first to mention Google for "Open Source CMS", and you will find... www.opensourcecms.com
Not so. It just shows that, like many things that Microsoft does, they have showed up late to the game because they wanted to wait to see if it was worth it to them to spend the money.
The huge popularity of Google Maps convinced them it was worth it, so now they are playing "catch up".
You can expect them to proceed to buy up the newest and most accurate sat pictures and replace most of the USGS data.
Expect the picture quality to exceed the fuzzy crap that Google has everywhere except the inner city maps.
You people are SO paranoid! There is really nothing going on here other than the fact that MSN's aerial pics have been out of date for quite some time, many go back to the 80's and early 90's. That's about it, guys.
What is this Slashdot obsession with "penetration", especially of the anal type? There seems to be a very persistent undercurrent of homoeroticism going on here that suggests an unfulfilled desire among many of the Slashdot crowd.
Well, it seems like every other grad student wants to design the next 1eeT p2p protocol (as if it's the only pressing CS issue these days), so apparently it's not too hard to get candy funding these days.
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Most people outside of IT (and many who do work in IT) could not care any less about the politics of software. They don't really care about this "Open Source" thing. And why should they? What they care about are applications that install and work as close to flawlessly as possible (or at least allow them to accomplish their tasks with a minimum of problems). I really don't think you'll get much more than "Gee, that's interesting... By the way, after the meeting, can you come by my cube and show me what I'm doing wrong with this Excel macro?" If I where you, I'd "introduce" specific applications (like OpenOffice, Firefox, other more specific applications...), not the concept of "Open Source". The accounting / administrative / human resources / other non-IT folks cjust have other things to worry about.
Jesus, cool your jets! Just like you, Mr. Roberson is entitled to his opinion. He makes some interesting points. It's something educated people do, have discussions of ideas.
No. The cost to the manufacturer is less. That does not mean they would pass that on to you the consumer.
If you really want to, try to find out who admins the other server, and make contact. Are they competitors, that would change a lot of things. BUT, this sort of thing happens several times a day to the servers I admin. Generally, there is nothing to be done about it, trying to notify the offending source is usually ignored. More than not (precisely always), it's Windows boxes infected with bots.
Why waste any time on this?
You ARE aware that Microsoft had both maps AND sat images before Google, right?
What is "M$"? I admit nothing of the sort. I admit to buying a server which happens to come with Windows, which I can not get any cheaper without Windows. If I don't like that, I admit to looking into some other option. But I don't really care if it comes with Windows, because I admit that I will install anything I want on it. I admit also that it is unlikly that they would offer it cheaper without Windows. I admit that I think most people here froth a bit much at the mouth.
Nope. I really don't. If my box comes with WIndows installed, and it's no cheaper without, no stress. Just install over it.
And I suppose that we'll have "gangsta" nerds running around "capping" PHBs and rival systems admins...
You buy what is offered, or you can build perfictly decent PC grade boxes yourself. It's no big issue to me because I know that even without any OS, the OEM price for a PC will not go down. So why should I care?
How can Microsoft's deals with anyone "lock users out" of alternative options? Anyone who wants can download a Linux distro, and unless you play games, most come with everything you need to net surf, check email, and do word processing. So, this statement sounds to me like hyperbole. I don't much like Windows or Microsoft much either, but whatever their relationships with OEMs is, it didn't stop me from loading RHEL on a server I bought that originally had OEM Win2k on it...
For my TS, although I already had S, they talked to all my friends, interviewed all my neighbors in every place I've lived over the past 9 years (9 years?), employers, and so on. Credit check, IRS, fed, state, and local cop check... Took 18 months end-to-end. And the work I do is not that exciting.
Because most people accept that, regardless of the fact that "Windows sucks", it's wrong (and possibly illegal) to use pirated software. They understand that in using pirated software, they can't expect to be treated the same as if they had purchased the software in a store. It all makes sense, really.
Really? When? This type of thing has been Microsoft policy for quite some time, and to date, there has been no discernable consumer backlash, probably because people realize that they give up certain rights when they use non-legit copies of Windows. It's quite simple, really.
YOUR fly is down.
YOU'RE going to die some day.
As long as it's "free as in beer" and runs on Linux, otherwise, hit the road...
Jackass. I'll bet you call them "boxen", too.
I didn't realize that Stargates ran Linux...
No...
I've been told by several people to keep it on my resume because just knowing that I've had it and can get it again can be valuable.After 18 month of inactivity, having had a Secret means nothing at all, they simply are not that hard to get, the time it takes is because of back-log. Essentially the same issue with TS, except the investigation is a bit deeper.
Nail on the head. Like you, mine is pre-911, but these days it takes longer. Funny thing, they ask the same questions and do the same investigation. The difference is the "Military-Industrial Complex" has grown quite a bit, so more people are trying to get them.
Walking in the door, takes about 1.5 to 2 years to get a TS, a little less for a Secret. But they are worth gold, there are many jobs that regardless of your quals, a potential employer will just walk away if you don't already have at least a Secret.
The "nuke" family of CMS applications not only all look and feel more or less the same, they have a very bad rep for crappy code and a high number of security issues.
Drupal, Plone, Mambo. All EASY to set up and admin.
Though GeekLog seems to be a Nuke clone, I have heard good things about it.
Well, with the addition of (perhaps) MamboServer, you already have the top easy to use CMS apps. I also hear good things about Plone. Typo3 is a bit heavy-duty, and I hear mixed reviews. And since this "Ask Slashdot" is really a dupe, let me be the first to mention Google for "Open Source CMS", and you will find... www.opensourcecms.com
The huge popularity of Google Maps convinced them it was worth it, so now they are playing "catch up".
You can expect them to proceed to buy up the newest and most accurate sat pictures and replace most of the USGS data.
Expect the picture quality to exceed the fuzzy crap that Google has everywhere except the inner city maps.
What is this Slashdot obsession with "penetration", especially of the anal type? There seems to be a very persistent undercurrent of homoeroticism going on here that suggests an unfulfilled desire among many of the Slashdot crowd.
Well, it seems like every other grad student wants to design the next 1eeT p2p protocol (as if it's the only pressing CS issue these days), so apparently it's not too hard to get candy funding these days.