i know people who play solitaire a minimum of 6 hours a day. yes it is sad, yes it makes you want to cry, but if there is one thing that they would not give up windows for it would be solitaire. granted this is a small market, but come on how hard could porting solitaire really be? if it is not going to take much effort then why not do it? btw, my solitaire addicted friend actually found a bug in M$ solitaire. he was able to put a red 5 on a black 8. i have not yet been able to recreate this bug (and neither had my friend) but it just goes to show what M$ code can do.
i dont mean to bash you but it looks like because of Dell/Gateway/IBM's failure to provide such services as you describe, is probabaly the biggest reason that VA stock went up so high.
You are right that the big named vendors could take VA out of business, but the sloppiness of the big guys and their general lack of interest in linux has given rise to VA.
We will eventually have to see how everything settles out, but unless the big guys get their acts in gear companies like VA will continue to pop up...
this would never happen, government infiltration would render it useless. It only takes one nark to ruin everything. When you are dealing with a large organization you are bound to have many informants working aginst you. heck if they paid me i would testify for them.
I will just stick to exchanging music with friends for now. Isnt this what cd-r's are for ???
I refuse to buy music cd's because of many reasons. One of which is the fact that the industry does not treat its consumers with respect. Now i understand the complications of my illegal mp3 activities, but i cannot justify spending $19.99 for a cd at Record Town. If i go to Record Town's competition (which is a tiny little music store with virtually no selection) i can get cd's for $17.99. I am from Plattsburgh, NY if anyone wants to know...
Now this is absurd, these prices are so high that it becomes financially impossible for me to exist in their market. Therefor I am left with 4 options:
1). Use my student loan to buy cd's... 2). Steal cd's from Record Town, or mug old women for cash. 3). Quit listening to music. 4). Pirate Mp3's
I decided to choose option 4, because i like old people, and i have a smaller chance of being caught, and the punishment is far less severe if i do.
So how can the industry counter this situation?
Plan #1 -- The current Approach.
Well they could try to block programs like napster, or they could try to censure the internet, but we all know that is destined to fail. after all i could just zip my mp3's and then encrypt then and send them anywhere and nobody will be able to track the fact that im pirating music without lots of investigation.
Plan #2 -- A better approach?
Lower music costs, (which wont happen because of a virtual monopoly int the industry) or create some other way for consumers to feel better about their purchases. After all I would argue that a main reason why people pirate is becasue they feel swindled by the industry. Now i do not know how to do this, becase after all this is the trick. but if there was some way for the industry to include some other frill with the cd, then maybe people would buy them more. Maybe this could be as simple as a flyer in each cd, or a mailing sent to your house... maybe even free guitar tabs, who know the limits are endless...
So my basic point is that the industry needs to make consumers feel good about consumption, until then im going to continue to steal my music. Now if i go to a show and the band is selling stuff there like T-Shirts, stickers, cookies, etc... I will buy that to show my support but i will not pay $19 dollars to some middle mad who is taking a huge cut out of the sale.
ahhh thats where we disagree, the only logical explanation is that they are using it for marketing, they are collecting too much data to jsut be monitoring usage. if they are not selling it to other people, then they are using it for their own marketing. if they dont have anything to sel right now then ill bet money that they will have stuff to sell soon.
1). New better crypographic security measures will be created, then the aussies will fight over wether its legal or not.
2). The aussie govt will come up with better exploits/script kiddie attacks. since the biggest OS used is M$, these will be directed towards windows and this will make windows look very bad.
3). Other govts will follow aussies lead and there will be worldwide chaos and geeks battle legislative drones in control, eventually this will come down to one apocolyptic battle where the good people (sporting penguin costumes) fight against the corporate/government sponsored army of doom.
As we all know good always conquers evil in the end so we have nothing to fear.
it was a joke... not to be taken seriously... but then again all aussies do anyways is shoot kangaroos so they obviously wouldnt get any joke.:P *this is another joke, if you couldnt tell*
the old protest videos i have watched. Chicago and Montgomery Alabama in particular. It seems like the police are still inciting all this violence, when will they ever learn?
*begin rant*
Yeah there were 20 people causing trouble, but there were also 39,980 peaceful protesters representing the local rights of consumers against greedy attacks by corporations to force their products into our markets at any cost, deregulating our morality so they can make a quick buck.
I would have loved to join in and if something like this happens in NY i will surely be there. It is about time people said "Enough!"
socialist coders??? I think you are mistaken, linux and opensource are so capitalist that it makes me sick. where else is there so much competition? certainly not with M$. If you ask me the current business model for computing (monopolies/oligopolies, market control, product absolutism) is absolutely totalitarian.
now not all of these things are bad, but when you put them together in such a rancis combination the consumer is the one who gets hurt.
before anyone points the finger at the protesters for starting the riot, remember Dr. Kings protest in 68 which was undermined by FBI agents posing as protesters. there may be other forces at work here trying to discredit and disrupt the protest.
im not saying that the protesters are innocent, but they may have been provoked/tricked into violence. not to mention the fact that when police start intervening thngs tend to get ugly.
i agree that this probabally wont solve anything because they are protesting to the wrong people. they should maybe protest US government sites instead, after all it is the US government that is abiding by the WTO's guidelines.
however i think this type of protest is a good thing. granted it sucks if you are on the wrong side of the stick, but it does intice companies/organizations to act ethically otherwise the majority of people out there will slashdot your web page.:)
your argument is like saying that the civil rights protesters of the 60's should not have went to the segregated businesses to protest because they were congesting traffic on their way to the protest.
i think we should outlaw web browsers because people are using them to slow down my quake bandwidth...
cookies were created so that a particular web site could tell wether you have been to their site before. this is especially important if the web site is customizable for each client. cookies allow for the data regarding a web site to be saved on your computer and used later to reconstruct the appearance of a web site based on your preferences. cookies are also safe because no code ever gets executed from them. now this program differs from cookies in that it looks at cookies and other web pages you visit, records this information and sends it back to their servers. this info is recorded and sold to company XYZ for a large sum of money. company XYZ uses this information and places banner ads on the web sites most visited by their target crowd. they also do statistical analysis of the data to determine consumer trends based on consumer profiles so they can estimate where they can best advertise. after all marketing is what is key to selling any product.
now I know that the company said they were not doing this but i do not believe it. there is no other reason why they would gather this type of information. it seems their only mistake is not telling people about it, and the blatant confusion and obscurity over the programs true purpose.
i have no problem with the program, but i do have a problem with their obscure distribution tactics.
is why people who use this software are not infuriated by it. now maybe they just dont know, but personaly if i knew that some company was making money by selling my browsing patterns i would want a cut of their profits. After all i never did sign up for this. I am not sure about the laws regarding telemarketing but dont telemarketers have to at least let the people know that they are taking part in a survey or whatever? I believe they do, and i think this company should be held to the same standards. Is it too much to ask for a little pop-up that briefly explains the products purpose?
wasnt it the other way around? i seem to remember lots of people criticizing AOL for their attempt to block M$, amidst their Mozilla work. I am afraid that you have your stories mixed up.
is for the Sun engineers to show us what they are made of. now if they were worth their wieght in code they would un-bloat Star-Office a tad. There is no way that Star Office cant be optimized or reworked so that it can run faster, with a smaller resident memory size. You would think with 1.2 Million downloads in 3 months that Sun would do a little alchemy and turn their iron into gold.
i know this place is not really a messageboard for tech info, but you have two options... XF86Setup, and xf86config, use those two in different combos and you are bound to get itright sooner or later. also there might be a 3dfx howto but im not sure.
there was an article a few days ago discussing this topic, and they basically concluded that if linux was to become as popular was windows then there would inevitably be virus' under linux... i suggest you try and find that article because it was very good.
..."Corel Corporation, Corel Corporation Limited, and others"... I suppose this reference to "others" is a reference to all the open source software developers. It would be kinda nice if instead of them referencing "others" they referenced another document which listed the particular names of each developer and the associated program. hmmm, does freshmeat keep such a list? if so Corel could reference this other list in their license.
I never said that the USSR had policies any better than that of the US. But then again the two are alot more similar than you realize. They are both greedy systems based on acquiring as much wealth as you can. However the US justifies it by a free market's empty promises and with a big military keeping the underdeveloped countries docile and submissive, while the USSR justified it with a closed market and empty promises and a big military keeping the underdeveloped countries docile and submissive. do you see the similarities? besides look at the USSR now, they are all jobless and poor as a result of a new free market... oh wait, i forgot let me re-phrase that. They are all poor except the beaurocrats, the corporate executives and military generals.
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i know people who play solitaire a minimum of 6 hours a day. yes it is sad, yes it makes you want to cry, but if there is one thing that they would not give up windows for it would be solitaire. granted this is a small market, but come on how hard could porting solitaire really be? if it is not going to take much effort then why not do it? btw, my solitaire addicted friend actually found a bug in M$ solitaire. he was able to put a red 5 on a black 8. i have not yet been able to recreate this bug (and neither had my friend) but it just goes to show what M$ code can do.
"The importance of using technology in the right way has never been more clear."
because there are a few simple reasons:
people who work for VA are genius'
VA is like the only linux hardware company
VA has had an excellent past history
now we will eventually see how everything levels out but there is no reason why this couldnt be legitimate
"The importance of using technology in the right way has never been more clear."
i dont mean to bash you but it looks like because of Dell/Gateway/IBM's failure to provide such services as you describe, is probabaly the biggest reason that VA stock went up so high.
You are right that the big named vendors could take VA out of business, but the sloppiness of the big guys and their general lack of interest in linux has given rise to VA.
We will eventually have to see how everything settles out, but unless the big guys get their acts in gear companies like VA will continue to pop up...
"The importance of using technology in the right way has never been more clear."
this would never happen, government infiltration would render it useless. It only takes one nark to ruin everything. When you are dealing with a large organization you are bound to have many informants working aginst you. heck if they paid me i would testify for them.
I will just stick to exchanging music with friends for now. Isnt this what cd-r's are for ???
"The importance of using technology in the right way has never been more clear."
I refuse to buy music cd's because of many reasons. One of which is the fact that the industry does not treat its consumers with respect. Now i understand the complications of my illegal mp3 activities, but i cannot justify spending $19.99 for a cd at Record Town. If i go to Record Town's competition (which is a tiny little music store with virtually no selection) i can get cd's for $17.99. I am from Plattsburgh, NY if anyone wants to know...
Now this is absurd, these prices are so high that it becomes financially impossible for me to exist in their market. Therefor I am left with 4 options:
1). Use my student loan to buy cd's...
2). Steal cd's from Record Town, or mug old women for cash.
3). Quit listening to music.
4). Pirate Mp3's
I decided to choose option 4, because i like old people, and i have a smaller chance of being caught, and the punishment is far less severe if i do.
So how can the industry counter this situation?
Plan #1 -- The current Approach.
Well they could try to block programs like napster, or they could try to censure the internet, but we all know that is destined to fail. after all i could just zip my mp3's and then encrypt then and send them anywhere and nobody will be able to track the fact that im pirating music without lots of investigation.
Plan #2 -- A better approach?
Lower music costs, (which wont happen because of a virtual monopoly int the industry) or create some other way for consumers to feel better about their purchases. After all I would argue that a main reason why people pirate is becasue they feel swindled by the industry. Now i do not know how to do this, becase after all this is the trick. but if there was some way for the industry to include some other frill with the cd, then maybe people would buy them more. Maybe this could be as simple as a flyer in each cd, or a mailing sent to your house... maybe even free guitar tabs, who know the limits are endless...
So my basic point is that the industry needs to make consumers feel good about consumption, until then im going to continue to steal my music. Now if i go to a show and the band is selling stuff there like T-Shirts, stickers, cookies, etc... I will buy that to show my support but i will not pay $19 dollars to some middle mad who is taking a huge cut out of the sale.
"The importance of using technology in the right way has never been more clear."
ahhh thats where we disagree, the only logical explanation is that they are using it for marketing, they are collecting too much data to jsut be monitoring usage. if they are not selling it to other people, then they are using it for their own marketing. if they dont have anything to sel right now then ill bet money that they will have stuff to sell soon.
"The importance of using technology in the right way has never been more clear."
1). New better crypographic security measures will be created, then the aussies will fight over wether its legal or not.
2). The aussie govt will come up with better exploits/script kiddie attacks. since the biggest OS used is M$, these will be directed towards windows and this will make windows look very bad.
3). Other govts will follow aussies lead and there will be worldwide chaos and geeks battle legislative drones in control, eventually this will come down to one apocolyptic battle where the good people (sporting penguin costumes) fight against the corporate/government sponsored army of doom.
As we all know good always conquers evil in the end so we have nothing to fear.
"The importance of using technology in the right way has never been more clear."
it was a joke... not to be taken seriously... but then again all aussies do anyways is shoot kangaroos so they obviously wouldnt get any joke. :P *this is another joke, if you couldnt tell*
"The importance of using technology in the right way has never been more clear."
the old protest videos i have watched. Chicago and Montgomery Alabama in particular. It seems like the police are still inciting all this violence, when will they ever learn?
*begin rant*
Yeah there were 20 people causing trouble, but there were also 39,980 peaceful protesters representing the local rights of consumers against greedy attacks by corporations to force their products into our markets at any cost, deregulating our morality so they can make a quick buck.
I would have loved to join in and if something like this happens in NY i will surely be there. It is about time people said "Enough!"
*end rant*
"The importance of using technology in the right way has never been more clear."
socialist coders??? I think you are mistaken, linux and opensource are so capitalist that it makes me sick. where else is there so much competition? certainly not with M$. If you ask me the current business model for computing (monopolies/oligopolies, market control, product absolutism) is absolutely totalitarian.
now not all of these things are bad, but when you put them together in such a rancis combination the consumer is the one who gets hurt.
"The importance of using technology in the right way has never been more clear."
I have heard that suse6.3 comes with support for the reiner file system. is this true or just a rumor?
"The importance of using technology in the right way has never been more clear."
before anyone points the finger at the protesters for starting the riot, remember Dr. Kings protest in 68 which was undermined by FBI agents posing as protesters. there may be other forces at work here trying to discredit and disrupt the protest.
im not saying that the protesters are innocent, but they may have been provoked/tricked into violence. not to mention the fact that when police start intervening thngs tend to get ugly.
"The importance of using technology in the right way has never been more clear."
i agree that this probabally wont solve anything because they are protesting to the wrong people. they should maybe protest US government sites instead, after all it is the US government that is abiding by the WTO's guidelines.
:)
however i think this type of protest is a good thing. granted it sucks if you are on the wrong side of the stick, but it does intice companies/organizations to act ethically otherwise the majority of people out there will slashdot your web page.
"The importance of using technology in the right way has never been more clear."
your argument is like saying that the civil rights protesters of the 60's should not have went to the segregated businesses to protest because they were congesting traffic on their way to the protest.
i think we should outlaw web browsers because people are using them to slow down my quake bandwidth...
"The importance of using technology in the right way has never been more clear."
cookies were created so that a particular web site could tell wether you have been to their site before. this is especially important if the web site is customizable for each client. cookies allow for the data regarding a web site to be saved on your computer and used later to reconstruct the appearance of a web site based on your preferences. cookies are also safe because no code ever gets executed from them. now this program differs from cookies in that it looks at cookies and other web pages you visit, records this information and sends it back to their servers. this info is recorded and sold to company XYZ for a large sum of money. company XYZ uses this information and places banner ads on the web sites most visited by their target crowd. they also do statistical analysis of the data to determine consumer trends based on consumer profiles so they can estimate where they can best advertise. after all marketing is what is key to selling any product.
now I know that the company said they were not doing this but i do not believe it. there is no other reason why they would gather this type of information. it seems their only mistake is not telling people about it, and the blatant confusion and obscurity over the programs true purpose.
i have no problem with the program, but i do have a problem with their obscure distribution tactics.
"The importance of using technology in the right way has never been more clear."
is why people who use this software are not infuriated by it. now maybe they just dont know, but personaly if i knew that some company was making money by selling my browsing patterns i would want a cut of their profits. After all i never did sign up for this. I am not sure about the laws regarding telemarketing but dont telemarketers have to at least let the people know that they are taking part in a survey or whatever? I believe they do, and i think this company should be held to the same standards. Is it too much to ask for a little pop-up that briefly explains the products purpose?
"The importance of using technology in the right way has never been more clear."
wasnt it the other way around? i seem to remember lots of people criticizing AOL for their attempt to block M$, amidst their Mozilla work. I am afraid that you have your stories mixed up.
"The importance of using technology in the right way has never been more clear."
maybe if redhat bought corel then they could finally get corel's licensing straight for once...
"The importance of using technology in the right way has never been more clear."
is for the Sun engineers to show us what they are made of. now if they were worth their wieght in code they would un-bloat Star-Office a tad. There is no way that Star Office cant be optimized or reworked so that it can run faster, with a smaller resident memory size. You would think with 1.2 Million downloads in 3 months that Sun would do a little alchemy and turn their iron into gold.
"The importance of using technology in the right way has never been more clear."
"never look a gift penguin in the mouth, or he just might spit."
-- i just made this up
"The importance of using technology in the right way has never been more clear."
i know this place is not really a messageboard for tech info, but you have two options... XF86Setup, and xf86config, use those two in different combos and you are bound to get itright sooner or later. also there might be a 3dfx howto but im not sure.
"The importance of using technology in the right way has never been more clear."
there was an article a few days ago discussing this topic, and they basically concluded that if linux was to become as popular was windows then there would inevitably be virus' under linux... i suggest you try and find that article because it was very good.
"The importance of using technology in the right way has never been more clear."
..."Corel Corporation, Corel Corporation Limited, and others"... I suppose this reference to "others" is a reference to all the open source software developers. It would be kinda nice if instead of them referencing "others" they referenced another document which listed the particular names of each developer and the associated program. hmmm, does freshmeat keep such a list? if so Corel could reference this other list in their license.
"The importance of using technology in the right way has never been more clear."
ummm, did you read animal farm? I dont think Orwell was thinking of the US when he wrote it. hmmm, try looking east, yeah toward Russia...
"The importance of using technology in the right way has never been more clear."
I never said that the USSR had policies any better than that of the US. But then again the two are alot more similar than you realize. They are both greedy systems based on acquiring as much wealth as you can. However the US justifies it by a free market's empty promises and with a big military keeping the underdeveloped countries docile and submissive, while the USSR justified it with a closed market and empty promises and a big military keeping the underdeveloped countries docile and submissive. do you see the similarities? besides look at the USSR now, they are all jobless and poor as a result of a new free market... oh wait, i forgot let me re-phrase that. They are all poor except the beaurocrats, the corporate executives and military generals.
"The importance of using technology in the right way has never been more clear."