The best answer I can come up with was it was just a product of the era and people get nostalgic about it. Or most of the population at the time were stoned.
In a book about the series the do talk about the quality at the time and how the other series and movies had a much bigger production budget. It frustrated them apparently and they felt like they could tell a better story if they had more budget.
As for me, I've watch almost all the episodes starting with Pertwee and I like Tom Baker the best because of nostalgia. It definitely reminds me of my younger years even though I never watched it then. I didn't start watching until a few years after he left. I can deal with Davidson but C. Baker gets a bit cringe worthy, especially with Peri.
The new episodes (post 2000) are good but I somewhat agree with the comment that the CGI has replaced much of lower quality production (below). I think they just leverage it too much.
My $.02.
reminds me of the article I saw recently about having plants in your house. Imagine that! you can have plants in your house! only now they are calling them 'urban rainforests'.
Wouldn't this strengthen the population that carries the viruses by eliminating the weaker carries, i.e. breeding out the weak and re-enforcing the stronger ones? I'm not a biologist or geneticist
yup 100% of the time it will work. except the times where it doesn't like when someone has hidden a camera in a bathroom or hotel room or their bedroom...
Ha, I meant John Brunner. I've read Gibson (Neuromanacer), later than I should have considering I came of age during the initial cyber punk phase. I went through a period where I tried to read the 'Must Reads' of Sci-fi at one point.
I thought about the Rand comment being the other way around, but as I post this I remember thinking her style read like a B Movie to me. Chalk it up to different ways to read the same story.
Re: Enders Game, agreed! Great book.
Assuming you're serious, he's authored a novel (Neuromancer ) in the early beginnings of the Internet (1984 to be precise) that is widely credited for starting cyberpunk. It should hold a place in 'must reads' of SciFi IMO.
Assuming your're not serious, he's an author who wrote and starred in the Mad Max movies.
Well, he's not exactly Orwell or Solzhenitsyn and a lot of people haven't read him because "ugh, science fiction" but the development of the Internet and pop culture since Neuromancer has drawn heavily on his writing.
where do you place it on the most influential list and why?
Good question. I suspect I'm not widely enough read to create a sensible looking list - and sadly I fear I'm rather better read than many.
Fair answer. And most likely you are better read than most, unless we include social media. Then I'm afraid...:-)
A quick search turns up no less than the follow authors of the 20th century
- F. Scott Fitzgerald
- George Orwell
- James Joyce
- John Steinbeck
- Ernest Hemingway
- Jack Keruoac
Where would you place Gibson on that list? That's just to name a few...
He's a science fiction author that wrote one of the most influential books of the last century.
His material is available from all good bookstores and several bad ones, check him out.
Wow, that's high praise. Assuming Neuromancer is the book you're referring to, where do you place it on the most influential list and why? I could assume for coining the term 'cyberpunk' or something along those lines.
IMO there's a case for most influential in the SciFi realm but overall... that covers a lot of ground.
Can you give an example of writing where there is concrete stuff and substance?
Neal Stephenson. Gibson was a master of creating atmosphere, and then in many cases not taking the story much farther than that.
Thank you. I've been trying to read 'The Peripheral' and just can't get past a few pages. You describe my issue perfectly, lot's of atmosphere, story doesn't seem to go anywhere.
still catching up to Andriod technology. It seems like the only 'new' thing they've introduced is wireless ear buds... wait I have a Motorola headset that is wireless. Wireless charging? nope. Smartwatch celluar? nope. Seems like they are banking on all they work they've done in the past.
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The best answer I can come up with was it was just a product of the era and people get nostalgic about it. Or most of the population at the time were stoned. In a book about the series the do talk about the quality at the time and how the other series and movies had a much bigger production budget. It frustrated them apparently and they felt like they could tell a better story if they had more budget. As for me, I've watch almost all the episodes starting with Pertwee and I like Tom Baker the best because of nostalgia. It definitely reminds me of my younger years even though I never watched it then. I didn't start watching until a few years after he left. I can deal with Davidson but C. Baker gets a bit cringe worthy, especially with Peri. The new episodes (post 2000) are good but I somewhat agree with the comment that the CGI has replaced much of lower quality production (below). I think they just leverage it too much. My $.02.
Rantoul, you'll never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy in Illinois. (except maybe Springfield).
reminds me of the article I saw recently about having plants in your house. Imagine that! you can have plants in your house! only now they are calling them 'urban rainforests'.
Kodi can be used liked Plex without the server part. I rip my discs to a network drive and use Kodi on a Firestick to watch them. No issues.
bullshit = draining every last penny they can from their customers.
Wouldn't this strengthen the population that carries the viruses by eliminating the weaker carries, i.e. breeding out the weak and re-enforcing the stronger ones? I'm not a biologist or geneticist
yup 100% of the time it will work. except the times where it doesn't like when someone has hidden a camera in a bathroom or hotel room or their bedroom...
Electronics repair you!
Ha, I meant John Brunner. I've read Gibson (Neuromanacer), later than I should have considering I came of age during the initial cyber punk phase. I went through a period where I tried to read the 'Must Reads' of Sci-fi at one point.
I thought about the Rand comment being the other way around, but as I post this I remember thinking her style read like a B Movie to me. Chalk it up to different ways to read the same story. Re: Enders Game, agreed! Great book.
Ashamed to admit I've never heard of him and I've been reading Sci Fi / Fantasy for going on 40 years. I'll check it out soon.
I can see your points. re: overrated, I feel the same way about Ayn Rand.
Assuming you're serious, he's authored a novel (Neuromancer ) in the early beginnings of the Internet (1984 to be precise) that is widely credited for starting cyberpunk. It should hold a place in 'must reads' of SciFi IMO. Assuming your're not serious, he's an author who wrote and starred in the Mad Max movies.
Why is Orwell overrated? He's widely studied in English classes. You may not like his writing but that doesn't make him overrated.
Well, he's not exactly Orwell or Solzhenitsyn and a lot of people haven't read him because "ugh, science fiction" but the development of the Internet and pop culture since Neuromancer has drawn heavily on his writing.
where do you place it on the most influential list and why?
Good question. I suspect I'm not widely enough read to create a sensible looking list - and sadly I fear I'm rather better read than many.
Fair answer. And most likely you are better read than most, unless we include social media. Then I'm afraid... :-)
A quick search turns up no less than the follow authors of the 20th century - F. Scott Fitzgerald - George Orwell - James Joyce - John Steinbeck - Ernest Hemingway - Jack Keruoac Where would you place Gibson on that list? That's just to name a few...
He's a science fiction author that wrote one of the most influential books of the last century.
His material is available from all good bookstores and several bad ones, check him out.
Wow, that's high praise. Assuming Neuromancer is the book you're referring to, where do you place it on the most influential list and why? I could assume for coining the term 'cyberpunk' or something along those lines. IMO there's a case for most influential in the SciFi realm but overall... that covers a lot of ground.
Can you give an example of writing where there is concrete stuff and substance?
Neal Stephenson. Gibson was a master of creating atmosphere, and then in many cases not taking the story much farther than that.
Thank you. I've been trying to read 'The Peripheral' and just can't get past a few pages. You describe my issue perfectly, lot's of atmosphere, story doesn't seem to go anywhere.
somebody has a case of the Mondays.
"Why do we pay IT, everything is working without their help." "Why do we pay IT, nothing is working". Sub in developers for IT. YMMV.
still catching up to Andriod technology. It seems like the only 'new' thing they've introduced is wireless ear buds... wait I have a Motorola headset that is wireless. Wireless charging? nope. Smartwatch celluar? nope. Seems like they are banking on all they work they've done in the past.
Is that you Mikhail? I mean 'Jesica'.
Edgar Rice Burroughs, A Princess of Mars.
Whiskey.