Um, I didn't keep any money in the PayPal account. I'm not sure how you inferred that from my story. The point is, they sent my PayPal account deep into the negatives. I had used a seperate bank account just for PayPal, so they couldn't take it from my bank. Now I can't use PayPal at all, not like I'd want to.
I agree, it seems to be a BS story. I was just keeping to facts, which is why I said I'd let everyone draw their own conclusions. I didn't want to muddy the waters with inferences.
PayPal was the merchant in the transaction. The CC processor would have notified them of a chargeback and given them the chance to dispute it. They should have then contacted me so that PayPal and I could work together in resolving the matter.
The year was 2001, a client wanted a simple way to wire me money for remote consulting services I was providing. I suggested PayPal, and helped him to configure an account.
When he would pay me, he would send approximately $150-250 through PayPal. This occured 8 times.
When I received the funds in my PayPal account, there was never any indicator of how he provided funds to PayPal, nor did I think I should care.
Approximately 6-8 months after the last transaction, I logged into my PayPal account prompted by an e-mail I received from them.
My account balance was -$1300 and some change. After calling PayPal to figure out what happened, I found out that the client had disputed the charges.
He worked out of his home, I called and reached his wife. His credit card had been stolen and he charged back any transactions he didn't recognize.
When I called again to reach him, I couldn't seem to communicate what had happened. (He was rather non-technical). He thought that other charges he saw on his account were the ones for me, but these were checks he had written for another matter. He refused to "double-pay me."
So, since PayPal doesn't bother to check with merchants or ask any questions whatsoever before charging back transactions, I'm out some $1300.
I call PayPal, they tell me they need proof of shipping. The funds were sent and labeled as 'for services'! I questioned this, and they seemed confused, and then said they needed proof of shipment, again.
I'll let you draw your own conclusions from this story. I'm tired of writing, but google around and see how MasterCard or Visa handles chargebacks with their merchants. PayPal is NOT a financial institution, by any definition.
There's ~1.08B people there.. you think that every single person there is working for a company that outsourced? Get real. Ignorant comments like this give the rest of the American Slashdotters a bad name.
That post is completely off-base. I provide Lead Generation services to companies who want to advertise online in order to get real-world customers. Companies who often don't convert sales online at all, and rely entirely on driving customers to their sites in order to submit an information request or "RFQ" (Request for Quote). Companies like these, ones with real business models, account for probably 95% of the AdWords (Google's text advertising program) gross.
Take mortgage companies for example. Many of them are bidding $8/click or more. Life Insurance, too.
I haven't seen any mention of DQSD yet, so I figured I'd link it. Embeds a searchbar into your Windows taskbar, and comes with a HUGE set of default commands, stored in configuration files. Then you can add your own basic aliases, or write small scripts into XML files. Pretty cool.
Anyways, I didn't say "Hard-of-hearing". *I'm* hard of hearing. He said hearing impaired. And he needs closed captioning enough to complain and force a private business owner to lose money.
So what you're saying is they should be forced to forfeit profit to accomodate some 1% of the population who is in their target audience? As a business owner, I find this unfair. If I want to be unaccomodating, that should be my right. It's a business decision. You would then use my competition, and I would accept that or change my ways.
I feel bad for you, and have two hearing impaired friends. However, I don't like the idea of the ADA forcing anyone to make costly implementations of technology that won't prove profitable for them. These are private businesses, and they certainly do not have a monopoly on a needed service, or even at all. Vote with your wallet. Your good friends will do the same.
That said, where do you live? I live in Orange County now, and all the AMC theaters here have rear-window captioning. They have it in Columbus, OH too. I assumed it to be fairly standard.
This comparing America as a whole to another country gets tired very quickly in the eyes of us who have traveled the country extensively. It's unfortunate to see such ignorance furthered by another American. Guess what? The entire country, which has near 400 million people, is not like your town. Got it? So when you compare where you go to the theater, which is obviously ghetto and noisy, then travel to an (apparently) nicer part of Canada. Please don't be surprised. Several parts of MANY countries are MUCH nicer than MANY areas of the US. Still following me? Try leaving your 20 square mile area sometime this decade.
Thing is, that's NOT useful. Don't you think Congress has more important things to debate? Why should something like an optical media containing for-profit entertainment be regulated? The market would regulate itself, as people will vote with their wallets.
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Did you hear that? The sound of IT Magazine's circulation plummeting.
Um, I didn't keep any money in the PayPal account. I'm not sure how you inferred that from my story. The point is, they sent my PayPal account deep into the negatives. I had used a seperate bank account just for PayPal, so they couldn't take it from my bank. Now I can't use PayPal at all, not like I'd want to.
This is exactly what I did, but I can't create another PayPal account. It checks my SSN and finds my old account.
What's up with the latest influx of "typo-squatting" Slashdot usernames?
I agree, it seems to be a BS story. I was just keeping to facts, which is why I said I'd let everyone draw their own conclusions. I didn't want to muddy the waters with inferences.
PayPal was the merchant in the transaction. The CC processor would have notified them of a chargeback and given them the chance to dispute it. They should have then contacted me so that PayPal and I could work together in resolving the matter.
Please see my earlier post: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=153612&cid=128 86962.
This sums up my experiences. Sort of similar to yours.
The year was 2001, a client wanted a simple way to wire me money for remote consulting services I was providing. I suggested PayPal, and helped him to configure an account.
When he would pay me, he would send approximately $150-250 through PayPal. This occured 8 times.
When I received the funds in my PayPal account, there was never any indicator of how he provided funds to PayPal, nor did I think I should care.
Approximately 6-8 months after the last transaction, I logged into my PayPal account prompted by an e-mail I received from them.
My account balance was -$1300 and some change. After calling PayPal to figure out what happened, I found out that the client had disputed the charges.
He worked out of his home, I called and reached his wife. His credit card had been stolen and he charged back any transactions he didn't recognize.
When I called again to reach him, I couldn't seem to communicate what had happened. (He was rather non-technical). He thought that other charges he saw on his account were the ones for me, but these were checks he had written for another matter. He refused to "double-pay me."
So, since PayPal doesn't bother to check with merchants or ask any questions whatsoever before charging back transactions, I'm out some $1300.
I call PayPal, they tell me they need proof of shipping. The funds were sent and labeled as 'for services'! I questioned this, and they seemed confused, and then said they needed proof of shipment, again.
I'll let you draw your own conclusions from this story. I'm tired of writing, but google around and see how MasterCard or Visa handles chargebacks with their merchants. PayPal is NOT a financial institution, by any definition.
There's ~1.08B people there.. you think that every single person there is working for a company that outsourced? Get real. Ignorant comments like this give the rest of the American Slashdotters a bad name.
It's been awhile since we link The Onion.
The Onion's ad revenue love you long time.
Select expert mode near the beginning of the purchase process, or use their bulk interface. No garbage, ~3 steps.
That post is completely off-base. I provide Lead Generation services to companies who want to advertise online in order to get real-world customers. Companies who often don't convert sales online at all, and rely entirely on driving customers to their sites in order to submit an information request or "RFQ" (Request for Quote). Companies like these, ones with real business models, account for probably 95% of the AdWords (Google's text advertising program) gross.
Take mortgage companies for example. Many of them are bidding $8/click or more. Life Insurance, too.
I haven't seen any mention of DQSD yet, so I figured I'd link it. Embeds a searchbar into your Windows taskbar, and comes with a HUGE set of default commands, stored in configuration files. Then you can add your own basic aliases, or write small scripts into XML files. Pretty cool.
Well, lets beat this guy until he tells us who runs that botnet. There's a starting point!
I was just trolling.. but thanks for biting. I don't go to any UGs, I'm not even sure that they exist here..
I'm all for US removing them. I'm against the idea of having wasteful legislation regulating lawful privately owned for-profit entertainment.
What was the link to agbell.com? spam?
Anyways, I didn't say "Hard-of-hearing". *I'm* hard of hearing. He said hearing impaired. And he needs closed captioning enough to complain and force a private business owner to lose money.
So what you're saying is they should be forced to forfeit profit to accomodate some 1% of the population who is in their target audience? As a business owner, I find this unfair. If I want to be unaccomodating, that should be my right. It's a business decision. You would then use my competition, and I would accept that or change my ways.
This is not a necessity. It's entertainment. If you don't like what you're getting for what you pay, stop paying. Basic economics.
I'm hearing impaired.
I bought my OWN iPod. Get off your lazy asses, you cheapskates. It's not THAT hard.
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Was I trolled?
I feel bad for you, and have two hearing impaired friends. However, I don't like the idea of the ADA forcing anyone to make costly implementations of technology that won't prove profitable for them. These are private businesses, and they certainly do not have a monopoly on a needed service, or even at all. Vote with your wallet. Your good friends will do the same.
That said, where do you live? I live in Orange County now, and all the AMC theaters here have rear-window captioning. They have it in Columbus, OH too. I assumed it to be fairly standard.
This comparing America as a whole to another country gets tired very quickly in the eyes of us who have traveled the country extensively. It's unfortunate to see such ignorance furthered by another American. Guess what? The entire country, which has near 400 million people, is not like your town. Got it? So when you compare where you go to the theater, which is obviously ghetto and noisy, then travel to an (apparently) nicer part of Canada. Please don't be surprised. Several parts of MANY countries are MUCH nicer than MANY areas of the US. Still following me? Try leaving your 20 square mile area sometime this decade.
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This post is blatant bs.Thing is, that's NOT useful. Don't you think Congress has more important things to debate? Why should something like an optical media containing for-profit entertainment be regulated? The market would regulate itself, as people will vote with their wallets.