Below is today's spam report from our mail server. Now take a good look at the numbers and tell me something needs to be done. This is money from the company I work for pocket. Filtering is NOT the solution. vigilantism DOES work. Look at this incident. It sure got a rise out of them.
Back in the early days this is how we kept spam off the net. It wasn't until people got this attiude of being nice to the person robbing that things got so carried away.
Personally I am very sad to see them shut down.
This is your daily traffic report from the Barracuda Spam Firewall at XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX for 05/17/06.
Breakdown of traffic per hour:
Hour |Blocked | Blocked: Virus | Quarantined | Allowed: Tagged | Allowed | Total Received
Total | 10368 | 1 | 39 | 77 | 1419 | 11904
Yes take a good hard look at these numbers. The number of accepted or good mail stays about the same over the months but the number of blocked messages continues to grom on a DAILY basis. Over 10,000 pieces of spam to get less than 1,500 that the people wanted. What is wrong with the pitcure and you say you only get one a day.
Personally I hope some one with big enough balls picks up this idea and runs with it. Think about this is the FIRST time such a rise has come out of the spamming community. You see filters DON'T effect their business. They still get paid because the mail may have been filtered but it was delivered. They get paid for DELIVERED! mail. Yea come do my job for a bit if you think spam is not a problem.
If there were any real alternatives to technology in today's Microsoft dominated juggernaut, these "practices" would send customers screaming to the competition. Unfortunately, so far, there aren't.
Well yes there are alternatives. It is a sad fact that people think a free OS is not any good. When in fact it is better and there are no licenses hassles. The main reason the company I work for is switching to Open Source. No more license hassles plus the savings on the price of the software itself.
Just think. I don't have to clean my machine weekly, pay for anti-virsus, rebuild machine machine on a regular basis. Sure I had to take the time to "learn" an new system, but then again at one time I had to learn to use Windoze. Plus security built in it from the ground up.
So your the one that had everything turned on, on NT4. Gee thanks you made me a ton of money fixing things during the Nimda worm. Fixing peoples web servers that didn't know they were even running a web server.
Really what good engineer would turn on everything by default? Do you leave your house in the morning with all the doors and windows open? If you did you wouldn't need to carry your keys with you. You would never lose that key. Also by leaving the door wide open when you get home you will not have to open the door just walk right in. "Ease of use!" Right?
Most of you comments were quite straight forward and not much marketspeak, thank you, BUT your answer to my biggest problem with your broken OS is the set up of users and Administrators and allowing your software partners such as Intuit to write software that ONLY runs under Admin rights is filled with BS.
What is the deal that anything and everything can write to the %systemroot% folder? Where you the one that opened that up too? It din't used to be that way. On 3.51 and NT4 you could lock down the systemroot to read and execute only for users. Why would a user EVER need to write to the system files? Right here is the cure for about 80% of the worms and virsuses out there. Where you you find them? In the system32 folder where else! If the user didn't have write access they could NOT get in there. What is it are these fixes so simple that you can't see them???? Why is a UNIX type OS more secure? Users can ONLY write to where they can do no harm. You MUST enter a password to write or change any system files. Yea this isn't ease of use BUT it is secure with no frills or bells. It just works. Yes it is a hassle to put in the password to make a change but it a bigger hassle cleaning shitware from a machine and having my personal information broadcasted to the world through the shitware that as infected my machine in order to have the "ease of use" to not have to put in the password.
Your right just fancy phrases for something that was right in the begining. For one thing if you fix this, this isn't an enhancement it is a FIX!. Your user rights management is BROKEN! So call it what it is a patch, a fix, whatever but it isn't an enhancement.
You see I am old enough and been around long enough to remember that NT3.51 through NT4 the user set up did not set up every user as an Administrator. When you set up a new account on a server they where just a "user". You had to go in and give this right if needed. This is the way things are suppose to work. Who's grand idea was it to change that in the first place?
Yes I have been a Windows Engineer since 1992 and used to swear by your products. Now I only work on Windows I don't use it personally or in business. I only come out and fix your broken Windows network when it breaks for a lot of money that you shouldn't have to be spending. 29 servers that were running W2K are now happily running RedHat. Our maintiance costs have dropped 60%. (yea right "Get the Facts") I didn't really want to switch but watching things with MS server get worse especially when it comes to security instead of getting better and to cover your tracks with MarketSpeak. Well sorry maybe you can bullshit the comsumer you can't bullshit me. I did the permament Windows fix. Disk 1 of Fedora
Let me educate you on your lack of knowledge about Linux. The "sudo" command does exactly what you say your enhancement of the user account does. It will run a command under root (There really isn't a SUPERUSR account) for just that command. During the excuition of the command you will need to give your password in order for the command to run. After the command has run it drops you out of root. During the runtime it is ONLY this process running as root. All other processes are running under the normal user account. You don't have to login under root to change things and you don't need to do a "su" command and "Switch User" to root to make changes. The s
You do have a good point. Isn't it BellSouth's customers that are connecting to my site that I own. Did I ask for them to visit this site or did the customer chose to come to the site? If they as a BS customer chose to come to my site then isn't it BS's responsibility to provide "Fast Access" as they advertise?
Boy you hit the nail on the head. Couldn't have siad it better. If we didn't go around the world beating up on the little guys and stealing their resourses, and trying to force the "American" way down their throats. We would be a whole lot safer from attack.
"If a company uses a lot of IBM products and migrates to another application server, then a political thing comes into play. Whether they are switching to BEA or JBoss doesn't matter -- they are reluctant to publicise as they still have to maintain a relationship with IBM," Connolly says.
Yes IBM would like to sell you their product but if you are using something else that IS "Open Standard Compliant" then it works with their products, and they are happy to work with you to make it work with the "Other Guys" stuff. Their development tools work with the other guys platforms.
Try that with MS and watch the screaming, cussing, threats and FUD start to fly. Try using their development tools with the other guys platform and watch it all break or watch yourself jump through hoops of real fire. Call tech support and they blame the problem on the other guys platform. Of course they will be happy to tell you how wonderful it all works IF you use MS!
MS is like Ford using 13 1/2" wheels that only Firestone makes the tires for. So if you are going to drive a Ford you MUST use Firestone tires to go down the road. IBM on the other hand builds their car with 14" rims that anyone's tires will fit on.
Isn't that the way things are suppose to work? This works well in all other fields of work. Why not IT? Do we know how to spell "User Lock IN"?
Don't forget the single ' around @ForumID. Remember VB2005 was written to work with MS products the best. I've been using MySQL for years and the only problem I've had is geting VS to work with it WHEN I used VS. We changed to IBM WebSphere and Java for development and will NEVER go back. The big reason we changed. MS only supporting it own. IBM's tools work just as good with their competiors stuff as their own like a development platform should.
Hope this helps.
IBM just works with everything and you will find what made other products appear to be broken in VS 2005 doesn't happen in WebSphere. It just works!
Ok we are both smart people here so stop the dancing. We are not talking about laws that arm the police nor laws that give the goverment rights to say shut down a restaurant that is selling bad food. There are laws that GIVE that right to the goverment and rightly so. My point is the exculsion of the goverment from the law.
This thread is about stupid patent laws. If we as "The People" must abide by stupid patent laws then they must do the same. If they don't want to abide by them then change them for everyone! This has nothing to do with laws to carry firearms. It has to do with a stupid patent on and "idea" this patent is not for a real device or process but a vauge idea on transfering mail.
Why don't they follow your idea in the other post and just get T-Mobile Sidekicks hell you even said that they were cooler and we all know goverment officals want the coolest of cool.
It is VERY apperant that you have never been personally under the thumb of this goverment or you would not be carrying on about how gloris this goverment is. You've never been the the one oppressed. I guess that torture camps and punishment without a trial is ok by you too! Yea it will be ok until it is the day that you are dragged off and tortured
Remember what happened to the orginal People that lived here. Or did you forget that this land was inhabited before your ancestors got here?
My point was there should not be a different legal circumstance. Laws are not ment to be bent for one group and not for another. It not a matter of competing. Besides it will take a hell of a lot more than a Blackberry to make the goverment to run more efficiently. Yes I have worked for the goverment and I have seen the waste that goes on all the time. It makes me sick. Still the point you seems to not want to talk about is laws are for everyone and a select few are not above the law. Or at least that was the way the Bill of Rights was orginally written. Yes I know good old George W. has done away with most of those rights now.
Yes they are Citzens like myself. So why all the bitching for goverment employees and not everyone? Or do they rate a higher level of Citzenship? If they do pass the law where they get to keep their service and service to the general public is cut off then isn't it a case of "Them" against "Us"? Isn't their job if they work for the goverment to be looking out of us (The People) first?
If they are going to shut it down because of the patent then shut it down completely. That way there is no "them and us". Any other way makes it where they are above the law, and this makes them "Them" and us on the outside.
If you read the other posters they are right. If it is an OEM version which most of the time it is. The OS is tied to the machine not to the CD. Moving the OS to another platform is against the OEM license. Others words you have a $50.00 coaster for your drink. Think about this too. Your laptop when MS does their counting of machines running their OS will count yours because you bought a licenses with the machine even if you never ran it with Windows on it. Personally I don't want to count as a sell for them.
A few months back I bought a laptop. When I was looking around I called all the big boys and they all said we don't do Linux. Even IBM doesn't sell Linux on laptops (shame shame IBM). HP would but at a higher price and talked for 30 mins. trying to get me to use Windows. I did this with the intent of being able to tell them "Well you just lost a sale because you don't support Linux." So somewhere in a marketing graph in these companies they will see my middle finger in their chart of a lost sale. Maybe it was a waste of time maybe it will get a point across. I still had fun doing it.
Their are companies that sell strickly Linux machines http//www.linuxcertified.com/ I got a laptop from them. Bill has never graced its hard drive. Matter of fact the machines name is NoBill. Its the best laptop I have ever used and Bill doesn't get to count it as one of his drones. Oh yes they will build you a laptop that will dual boot Windows for $75.00 more!
People die here too everyday day due to people like Delay and their corruption. You just don't read about it because the media is in their back pocket.
PDC attendee Mike Roberts said Microsoft's customers are unlikely to switch from Visual Studio to the open source project. "There are two types of businesses -- the ones that buy into Microsoft and those that don't. The people who bought into the Microsoft world probably won't switch to Mono. The other people -- those using Java or LAMP might do, though," said Roberts.
I think the keyword here is "Buy". Does this really state that they're not switching because they bought into MS's BS? Or does it mean that since they have sunk so much money into MS they can't afford to change.
I love this statement too "people who bought into the Microsoft world I'm glad I must be existing in another plane of existence.
Fortunately, larger corporations that install Microsoft Windows XP Professional usually don't grant the laptop user full administrative rights.
Why in the hell would a normal user be a Admin in a domain? Crap like this is what makes Winsores so bad. With Winsores everybody has to be an Administrator. Hell I am the Admin and I never run under Administrator except to fix something.
According to Taylor, businesses that tried out Linux or other open-source tools are now realizing that they are putting in more investment into the technology than they had initially thought.
Thats funny Linux and OSS is the best time and money saving thing our company has done. Go back to MS? Never!
I am always suprised at the out cry to protect spammers from DDOS attacks or rejecting mail back to them on this site. It would seem that the people here would be more likely to understand this is a viable method to keep spammers down.
I know most of you are too young to remember the old days of the Internet but before DDOSing was illegal this was the method to stop spammers. That and brute force attacks aginst their servers. If you where a spammer then you were an open target.
This worked too. Spam increased only after the laws pretaining to network attacks came into effect.
I I guess that if someone breaks into your house watches your TV and eats all your food this is ok as long as they don't carry anything out. Still your left with the electric bill for running the TV and now you also have another mouth to feed. Guess your made of money. Well I am not and if you break in here you will be dealt with accordly and I will call the Cops only to come and carry away your corpse.
So if you stick your hand in my pocket to take my money and I cut off your hand am I the bad guy for cutting you? If you hadn't put your hand in my pocket in the first place I would have never hurt you. This is the same thing spammers stick their hands in my pocket everytime they send their shit. So if I cut off their hand by DDOSing them am I wrong? Personally I don't think so.
Remember THEY contacted me first.
The laws are no good. Ever called the FTC about this? Even being a ISP they will not presue your case. Their only answer is send us an email. Even when you have a mountian of evidence against them. Laws aren;t worth the paper it is written on if they are not enforced and the CAN-SPAM Act is just an illusion to appear that the goverment is doing something about it.
Why would anyone want to use AOL? Why would anyone want to load their crappy spyware ridden client. Destin to eat your TCP IP stack? First question I ask an ISP about dial up. Does your service have to use your client sofware or can I use a standard dialer? If the answer is No then I would go somewhere else. Chances are if you MUST use their client then most likley there is crap built into it you don't want anyways.
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Below is today's spam report from our mail server. Now take a good look at the numbers and tell me something needs to be done. This is money from the company I work for pocket. Filtering is NOT the solution. vigilantism DOES work. Look at this incident. It sure got a rise out of them.
Back in the early days this is how we kept spam off the net. It wasn't until people got this attiude of being nice to the person robbing that things got so carried away.
Personally I am very sad to see them shut down.
This is your daily traffic report from the Barracuda Spam Firewall at XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX for 05/17/06.
Breakdown of traffic per hour:
Hour |Blocked | Blocked: Virus | Quarantined | Allowed: Tagged | Allowed | Total Received
Total | 10368 | 1 | 39 | 77 | 1419 | 11904
Yes take a good hard look at these numbers. The number of accepted or good mail stays about the same over the months but the number of blocked messages continues to grom on a DAILY basis. Over 10,000 pieces of spam to get less than 1,500 that the people wanted. What is wrong with the pitcure and you say you only get one a day.
Personally I hope some one with big enough balls picks up this idea and runs with it. Think about this is the FIRST time such a rise has come out of the spamming community. You see filters DON'T effect their business. They still get paid because the mail may have been filtered but it was delivered. They get paid for DELIVERED! mail. Yea come do my job for a bit if you think spam is not a problem.
Well yes there are alternatives. It is a sad fact that people think a free OS is not any good. When in fact it is better and there are no licenses hassles. The main reason the company I work for is switching to Open Source. No more license hassles plus the savings on the price of the software itself.
Just think. I don't have to clean my machine weekly, pay for anti-virsus, rebuild machine machine on a regular basis. Sure I had to take the time to "learn" an new system, but then again at one time I had to learn to use Windoze. Plus security built in it from the ground up.
So your the one that had everything turned on, on NT4. Gee thanks you made me a ton of money fixing things during the Nimda worm. Fixing peoples web servers that didn't know they were even running a web server.
Really what good engineer would turn on everything by default? Do you leave your house in the morning with all the doors and windows open? If you did you wouldn't need to carry your keys with you. You would never lose that key. Also by leaving the door wide open when you get home you will not have to open the door just walk right in. "Ease of use!" Right?
Most of you comments were quite straight forward and not much marketspeak, thank you, BUT your answer to my biggest problem with your broken OS is the set up of users and Administrators and allowing your software partners such as Intuit to write software that ONLY runs under Admin rights is filled with BS.
What is the deal that anything and everything can write to the %systemroot% folder? Where you the one that opened that up too? It din't used to be that way. On 3.51 and NT4 you could lock down the systemroot to read and execute only for users. Why would a user EVER need to write to the system files? Right here is the cure for about 80% of the worms and virsuses out there. Where you you find them? In the system32 folder where else! If the user didn't have write access they could NOT get in there. What is it are these fixes so simple that you can't see them???? Why is a UNIX type OS more secure? Users can ONLY write to where they can do no harm. You MUST enter a password to write or change any system files. Yea this isn't ease of use BUT it is secure with no frills or bells. It just works. Yes it is a hassle to put in the password to make a change but it a bigger hassle cleaning shitware from a machine and having my personal information broadcasted to the world through the shitware that as infected my machine in order to have the "ease of use" to not have to put in the password.
Your right just fancy phrases for something that was right in the begining. For one thing if you fix this, this isn't an enhancement it is a FIX!. Your user rights management is BROKEN! So call it what it is a patch, a fix, whatever but it isn't an enhancement.
You see I am old enough and been around long enough to remember that NT3.51 through NT4 the user set up did not set up every user as an Administrator. When you set up a new account on a server they where just a "user". You had to go in and give this right if needed. This is the way things are suppose to work. Who's grand idea was it to change that in the first place?
Yes I have been a Windows Engineer since 1992 and used to swear by your products. Now I only work on Windows I don't use it personally or in business. I only come out and fix your broken Windows network when it breaks for a lot of money that you shouldn't have to be spending. 29 servers that were running W2K are now happily running RedHat. Our maintiance costs have dropped 60%. (yea right "Get the Facts") I didn't really want to switch but watching things with MS server get worse especially when it comes to security instead of getting better and to cover your tracks with MarketSpeak. Well sorry maybe you can bullshit the comsumer you can't bullshit me. I did the permament Windows fix. Disk 1 of Fedora
Let me educate you on your lack of knowledge about Linux. The "sudo" command does exactly what you say your enhancement of the user account does. It will run a command under root (There really isn't a SUPERUSR account) for just that command. During the excuition of the command you will need to give your password in order for the command to run. After the command has run it drops you out of root. During the runtime it is ONLY this process running as root. All other processes are running under the normal user account. You don't have to login under root to change things and you don't need to do a "su" command and "Switch User" to root to make changes. The s
You do have a good point. Isn't it BellSouth's customers that are connecting to my site that I own. Did I ask for them to visit this site or did the customer chose to come to the site? If they as a BS customer chose to come to my site then isn't it BS's responsibility to provide "Fast Access" as they advertise?
Yea really. He must be one of those guys that took the money and run. I don't remember any of it being "fun". Especially when the bottom fell out.
Boy you hit the nail on the head. Couldn't have siad it better. If we didn't go around the world beating up on the little guys and stealing their resourses, and trying to force the "American" way down their throats. We would be a whole lot safer from attack.
Yes IBM would like to sell you their product but if you are using something else that IS "Open Standard Compliant" then it works with their products, and they are happy to work with you to make it work with the "Other Guys" stuff. Their development tools work with the other guys platforms.
Try that with MS and watch the screaming, cussing, threats and FUD start to fly. Try using their development tools with the other guys platform and watch it all break or watch yourself jump through hoops of real fire. Call tech support and they blame the problem on the other guys platform. Of course they will be happy to tell you how wonderful it all works IF you use MS!
MS is like Ford using 13 1/2" wheels that only Firestone makes the tires for. So if you are going to drive a Ford you MUST use Firestone tires to go down the road. IBM on the other hand builds their car with 14" rims that anyone's tires will fit on.
Isn't that the way things are suppose to work? This works well in all other fields of work. Why not IT? Do we know how to spell "User Lock IN"?
I think you left something out. Try this...
SELECT * FROM forum WHERE ForumID='@ForumID';
Don't forget the single ' around @ForumID. Remember VB2005 was written to work with MS products the best. I've been using MySQL for years and the only problem I've had is geting VS to work with it WHEN I used VS. We changed to IBM WebSphere and Java for development and will NEVER go back. The big reason we changed. MS only supporting it own. IBM's tools work just as good with their competiors stuff as their own like a development platform should.Hope this helps.
IBM just works with everything and you will find what made other products appear to be broken in VS 2005 doesn't happen in WebSphere. It just works!
This thread is about stupid patent laws. If we as "The People" must abide by stupid patent laws then they must do the same. If they don't want to abide by them then change them for everyone! This has nothing to do with laws to carry firearms. It has to do with a stupid patent on and "idea" this patent is not for a real device or process but a vauge idea on transfering mail.
Why don't they follow your idea in the other post and just get T-Mobile Sidekicks hell you even said that they were cooler and we all know goverment officals want the coolest of cool.
It is VERY apperant that you have never been personally under the thumb of this goverment or you would not be carrying on about how gloris this goverment is. You've never been the the one oppressed. I guess that torture camps and punishment without a trial is ok by you too! Yea it will be ok until it is the day that you are dragged off and tortured
Remember what happened to the orginal People that lived here. Or did you forget that this land was inhabited before your ancestors got here?
My point was there should not be a different legal circumstance. Laws are not ment to be bent for one group and not for another. It not a matter of competing. Besides it will take a hell of a lot more than a Blackberry to make the goverment to run more efficiently. Yes I have worked for the goverment and I have seen the waste that goes on all the time. It makes me sick. Still the point you seems to not want to talk about is laws are for everyone and a select few are not above the law. Or at least that was the way the Bill of Rights was orginally written. Yes I know good old George W. has done away with most of those rights now.
If they are going to shut it down because of the patent then shut it down completely. That way there is no "them and us". Any other way makes it where they are above the law, and this makes them "Them" and us on the outside.
Two sets of rules when will it stop? Ponder that.
A few months back I bought a laptop. When I was looking around I called all the big boys and they all said we don't do Linux. Even IBM doesn't sell Linux on laptops (shame shame IBM). HP would but at a higher price and talked for 30 mins. trying to get me to use Windows. I did this with the intent of being able to tell them "Well you just lost a sale because you don't support Linux." So somewhere in a marketing graph in these companies they will see my middle finger in their chart of a lost sale. Maybe it was a waste of time maybe it will get a point across. I still had fun doing it.
Their are companies that sell strickly Linux machines http//www.linuxcertified.com/ I got a laptop from them. Bill has never graced its hard drive. Matter of fact the machines name is NoBill. Its the best laptop I have ever used and Bill doesn't get to count it as one of his drones. Oh yes they will build you a laptop that will dual boot Windows for $75.00 more!
People die here too everyday day due to people like Delay and their corruption. You just don't read about it because the media is in their back pocket.
Oh you work for Marketing.
Novell Groupwise. It beats Exchange hands down. For running on a Windows server Merak mail is good.
I think the keyword here is "Buy". Does this really state that they're not switching because they bought into MS's BS? Or does it mean that since they have sunk so much money into MS they can't afford to change.
I love this statement too "people who bought into the Microsoft world I'm glad I must be existing in another plane of existence.
Personally I'll have another cup of Java
Why in the hell would a normal user be a Admin in a domain? Crap like this is what makes Winsores so bad. With Winsores everybody has to be an Administrator. Hell I am the Admin and I never run under Administrator except to fix something.
I'm so glad I switch to Linux
Try reading the help files.
Yea me too!
Humm lets see point all out bound traffic to 127.0.0.1
Dear users,
I will be camping in the mountians of Peru for the next week.
Thank you for not getting me a gift nor even a card for Systems Administrators Day.
Your SysAdmin
I couldn't agree with you more. Why screw with the clock. Like you said just get up earlier.
Thats funny Linux and OSS is the best time and money saving thing our company has done. Go back to MS? Never!
Lets see fire up Word(tm) go eat lunch and maybe just maybe it will be open when I get back.
I know most of you are too young to remember the old days of the Internet but before DDOSing was illegal this was the method to stop spammers. That and brute force attacks aginst their servers. If you where a spammer then you were an open target.
This worked too. Spam increased only after the laws pretaining to network attacks came into effect.
I I guess that if someone breaks into your house watches your TV and eats all your food this is ok as long as they don't carry anything out. Still your left with the electric bill for running the TV and now you also have another mouth to feed. Guess your made of money. Well I am not and if you break in here you will be dealt with accordly and I will call the Cops only to come and carry away your corpse.
So if you stick your hand in my pocket to take my money and I cut off your hand am I the bad guy for cutting you? If you hadn't put your hand in my pocket in the first place I would have never hurt you. This is the same thing spammers stick their hands in my pocket everytime they send their shit. So if I cut off their hand by DDOSing them am I wrong? Personally I don't think so.
Remember THEY contacted me first.
The laws are no good. Ever called the FTC about this? Even being a ISP they will not presue your case. Their only answer is send us an email. Even when you have a mountian of evidence against them. Laws aren;t worth the paper it is written on if they are not enforced and the CAN-SPAM Act is just an illusion to appear that the goverment is doing something about it.
OK guys you can flame me now....
Yes the Linux dialer works just fine.