Ah... no. For one system --- there is an "open source" software option; and in this open-source I found an annoying bug. The dirty secret with open source, if the bug it isn't on someone "favorite" plate, it's not going to be looked at/fixed. And if I don't know the language that it is written in... then it won't be fixed.
You have the source. You can determine the language (or pay someone who can). You can pay someone to fix the bug.
The hardware that I'm stuck with is no longer available as 'new' and there are no "modern" drivers as an option. The software cannot migrate (and in one instance the owner of the software is no longer in business)
Which is why I'm advocating (in the future in your case) to not buy these types of systems in the first place. I realise in this case it's after the fact. Maybe next time.
This 'choice' is never offered.
So next time ask for it. There should be little objection. If the company is worried about giving up the source - it's only it they're out of business so no money lost. I also think it's quite reasonable to ask for the source if they effectively discontinue the product. You do have to ask though. Your lawyers and management will likely be on board with at least asking, especially after seeing the consequences this time around. If the vendor is not willing to compromise, make a choice. Either accept the risk (as was done previously - please learn from this) or choose something or someone else who meets your requirements. Or even change your process to not "require" this system. There are ALWAYS choices. They may not be easy or nice, but they are there.
In this case, someone previously chose to use this system. Next time around remind the decision makers about this. They may well choose to ignore you and accept the risk. But they have chosen this option. I'm not denying you're between a rock and a hard place at the moment. I've been there (exact same thing). It sucks. Just try to educate the decision makers about this type of thing in the future.
You misconstrued what I said. If the drivers (software) are open source (eg: in the case of Linux, in the kernel and supported by the kernel dev team), then they will be supportable (essentially) forever. Choose this type of software where possible. Substitute drivers for an application. If the app is open source, it's supportable forever. A decent compromise is an agreement that if the company stops supporting the software without an upgrade path (or goes out of business), it makes the software open source. Have seen that in numerous purchasing contracts. A third party (usually lawyers) hold a copy of the source in escrow.
Granted it's not always offered, but that's my point - it's a choice.
I sympathize, but in the end, it's YOUR fault for buying software and/or hardware that only works on a particular operating system and you don't have the source. There is a perfectly valid reason free software people want drivers to be open sourced.
I know, I know - but they don't offer that. Then either choose something else or accept that you're buying into closed source and potentially unsupportable items. It's a choice. People make it. You choose to use this stuff. Even if it feels like you don't have a choice, you do. The choice might even be not to do that thing that requires that particular thing. It's still a choice. If it's for business reasons, it's STILL a choice. Don't do business or do business and use unsupportable items. It's still a choice. You might not like it (which is perfectly normal), but it's still a choice you made.
Those like my employer where my present location has 1100 seats. I can't go around installing printer drivers all day or close the company down because we had to move a copier and the installed print driver only works for a specific port.
Reinstalling the driver 1100 times is not an option!
Who has 1100 seats and DOESN'T have some form of automated deployment tool? That sounds like job #1 to me...
Personally I'd love it if Blizzard simply made the WoW movie the same as they do for these trailers. At least we know it's fake (as opposed to dressing up people and using effects to look 'real'), just run with it and make good use of it as they do now.
Got mine the other day. Works like a charm charging a Galaxy Tab 8, 2x Galaxy Nexus' and an iPod touch all at once. And it's small and nicely designed. No complaints here:-)
Edz, you just disproved your own point. No normal user I know gives a crap about any of those features. Tech users, yeah, sure. Normal users, no way. NONE of them make the pain and expense of an upgrade worthwhile. Pain because things change and they have to relearn them. Expense because upgrading costs money for the OS and (usually) money to have someone do it for them. Add to that the fact that the press and others have written off the interface (no comment on it from me here) and they see no compelling reason to spend money for something they don't care about and which they have been told is bad.
$50k for "just some files and a website" - WTF?
Where and how do you spend $50,000 on a file server and web server?
Lets me guess, Windows + SharePoint + SQL Server....
They're in Texas. They take donated PCs, install Linux on them and give them to needy kids. They always need a hand and you may even have read about their founders struggle with cancer. Doesn't stop him from continuing his awesome work.
Following on from remakes (so I'm not too off topic), I've often wondered about remaking some C=64 games with slightly better graphics for the iPhone / Android phones. Things like Spindizzy and Bounder would be awesome - tilt motion instead of joystick, etc, etc. There were so many games on the C=64 that could translate onto small screens and a lot could be redone to use tilt controls, too.... Now - just add some upgraded gfx and you are WIN !
Don't forget OurDelta - http://ourdelta.org/ - [about] "OurDelta produces enhanced builds for MySQL 5.0 and builds for MariaDB 5.1, on common production platforms. James Purser of Open Source On The Air describes OurDelta as “a new distribution for MySQL”."
And then there's the under devellopment Drizzle - http://drizzle.org/ - MySQL rewritten from scratch by (amongst others) Brian Aker.
If you would like to help out a F/OSS project, drop me an email.
open.audit@gmail.com
Web based front end for a network documentation database.
I am no UI designer, and I'd more than welcome any input you'd like to give...
http://www.open-audit.org/
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Am using gReader Pro on Android hooked up to Feedly. Works a treat.
+1. Feedly user here.
Ah... no. For one system --- there is an "open source" software option; and in this open-source I found an annoying bug. The dirty secret with open source, if the bug it isn't on someone "favorite" plate, it's not going to be looked at/fixed. And if I don't know the language that it is written in ... then it won't be fixed.
You have the source. You can determine the language (or pay someone who can). You can pay someone to fix the bug.
The hardware that I'm stuck with is no longer available as 'new' and there are no "modern" drivers as an option. The software cannot migrate (and in one instance the owner of the software is no longer in business)
Which is why I'm advocating (in the future in your case) to not buy these types of systems in the first place. I realise in this case it's after the fact. Maybe next time.
This 'choice' is never offered.
So next time ask for it. There should be little objection. If the company is worried about giving up the source - it's only it they're out of business so no money lost. I also think it's quite reasonable to ask for the source if they effectively discontinue the product. You do have to ask though. Your lawyers and management will likely be on board with at least asking, especially after seeing the consequences this time around. If the vendor is not willing to compromise, make a choice. Either accept the risk (as was done previously - please learn from this) or choose something or someone else who meets your requirements. Or even change your process to not "require" this system. There are ALWAYS choices. They may not be easy or nice, but they are there.
In this case, someone previously chose to use this system. Next time around remind the decision makers about this. They may well choose to ignore you and accept the risk. But they have chosen this option. I'm not denying you're between a rock and a hard place at the moment. I've been there (exact same thing). It sucks. Just try to educate the decision makers about this type of thing in the future.
You misconstrued what I said. If the drivers (software) are open source (eg: in the case of Linux, in the kernel and supported by the kernel dev team), then they will be supportable (essentially) forever. Choose this type of software where possible. Substitute drivers for an application. If the app is open source, it's supportable forever. A decent compromise is an agreement that if the company stops supporting the software without an upgrade path (or goes out of business), it makes the software open source. Have seen that in numerous purchasing contracts. A third party (usually lawyers) hold a copy of the source in escrow.
Granted it's not always offered, but that's my point - it's a choice.
I sympathize, but in the end, it's YOUR fault for buying software and/or hardware that only works on a particular operating system and you don't have the source. There is a perfectly valid reason free software people want drivers to be open sourced. I know, I know - but they don't offer that. Then either choose something else or accept that you're buying into closed source and potentially unsupportable items. It's a choice. People make it. You choose to use this stuff. Even if it feels like you don't have a choice, you do. The choice might even be not to do that thing that requires that particular thing. It's still a choice. If it's for business reasons, it's STILL a choice. Don't do business or do business and use unsupportable items. It's still a choice. You might not like it (which is perfectly normal), but it's still a choice you made.
Memories - I had the CreatiVision.
Those like my employer where my present location has 1100 seats. I can't go around installing printer drivers all day or close the company down because we had to move a copier and the installed print driver only works for a specific port.
Reinstalling the driver 1100 times is not an option!
Who has 1100 seats and DOESN'T have some form of automated deployment tool? That sounds like job #1 to me...
Am loving i3.
Personally I'd love it if Blizzard simply made the WoW movie the same as they do for these trailers. At least we know it's fake (as opposed to dressing up people and using effects to look 'real'), just run with it and make good use of it as they do now.
Similar to Open-AudIT http://www.open-audit.org/
He's rocking them like rocks all day, in his cradle of love, which also rocks.
[coffee spilt] Oh for mod points - +1 funny :-)
Got mine the other day. Works like a charm charging a Galaxy Tab 8, 2x Galaxy Nexus' and an iPod touch all at once. And it's small and nicely designed. No complaints here :-)
Edz, you just disproved your own point. No normal user I know gives a crap about any of those features. Tech users, yeah, sure. Normal users, no way. NONE of them make the pain and expense of an upgrade worthwhile. Pain because things change and they have to relearn them. Expense because upgrading costs money for the OS and (usually) money to have someone do it for them. Add to that the fact that the press and others have written off the interface (no comment on it from me here) and they see no compelling reason to spend money for something they don't care about and which they have been told is bad.
This big enough for you... http://www.lendlease.com/GCUH/index.html
$50k for "just some files and a website" - WTF?
Where and how do you spend $50,000 on a file server and web server?
Lets me guess, Windows + SharePoint + SQL Server....
They're in Texas. They take donated PCs, install Linux on them and give them to needy kids. They always need a hand and you may even have read about their founders struggle with cancer. Doesn't stop him from continuing his awesome work.
http://reglue.org/index.html
sudo apt-get install tasksel
sudo tasksel
Choose your server and it's installed and setup for you.
Just too easy.
Those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it. http://verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/demotivational-posters-history.jpg
C64 & Viatel for the win (shudder).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esaMAyTbURo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Videotex#Australia
Yep Viatel was the Australian system. I had it (on a C64)... ahh the memories (shudder).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esaMAyTbURo
RedHat should do it. Fork Gnome2 and pay developrs to keep it going - use it in their EL.
SOTI MobiControl is one option. Works OK for us... http://www.soti.net/Mobicontrol/
Following on from remakes (so I'm not too off topic), I've often wondered about remaking some C=64 games with slightly better graphics for the iPhone / Android phones. Things like Spindizzy and Bounder would be awesome - tilt motion instead of joystick, etc, etc. There were so many games on the C=64 that could translate onto small screens and a lot could be redone to use tilt controls, too.... Now - just add some upgraded gfx and you are WIN !
Don't forget OurDelta - http://ourdelta.org/ - [about] "OurDelta produces enhanced builds for MySQL 5.0 and builds for MariaDB 5.1, on common production platforms. James Purser of Open Source On The Air describes OurDelta as “a new distribution for MySQL”."
And then there's the under devellopment Drizzle - http://drizzle.org/ - MySQL rewritten from scratch by (amongst others) Brian Aker.
If you would like to help out a F/OSS project, drop me an email. open.audit@gmail.com Web based front end for a network documentation database. I am no UI designer, and I'd more than welcome any input you'd like to give... http://www.open-audit.org/