The current QT is released as a GPL software if it is used in GPL software. As such, it can not be revoked from being a GPL peice of software, regardless of what anyone does.
Future versions of QT may be made propriatry-only, but if that happened all that would be required is another GPL QT project to continue with a modern QT-lib.
You have to retrain/fire-and-hire the IT staff. You have to get new text books.
And let's not even talk about finding teachers for this.
I'm am about as dead-set on Free as in Speech software as anyone CAN be, but the last thing schools facing LARGE budget deficits need to hear is "you need to retool your IT staff and use new software. Now."
Maybe if we got the casinos to subsidise it..... */pipedream*
It is official; Netcraft now confirms: *BSD trolling is dying
One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered *BSD trolling community when IDC confirmed that *BSD trolling's market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all trolls. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD trolls have lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD trolling is collapsing in complete disarray, due to a lack of vowels to "en-l33ten" in it's name in a recent troll survey.
You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD trolling's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD trolls faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD trolling because *BSD trolling is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD trolls. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to outlive the hardware it's installed on. 486's flow like a river of blood.
FreeBSD trolling is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its zip since the introduction of devfs. The sudden and unpleasant arrival of a Nvidia driver to FreeBSD only serves to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD trolling is dying.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
SlashDot leader Cmdr states that there are ~9 trillion users of Slashdot. How many BSD trolls are there? Let's see. The number of troll versus informative *BSD posts on Slashdot is roughly in ratio of 1 to 500. Therefore there are about 9trillion/5 = 1.8 billion trollers. BSD/OS posts on Slashdot are about half of the volume of SCO lawsuit posts. Therefore there are about.9 billion trollers of BSD/OS. This is consistent with the number of times the "BSD is dead" troll has appeared in Slashdot posts.
All major surveys show that *BSD trolling has steadily declined in market share since FreeBSD 5.0. *BSD trolling is gravely sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD trolling is to survive at all it will be among Microsoft OS babblers. *BSD trolling continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD trolling is dead.
Fact: *BSD trolling is dying
I know this doesn't help now, but.....
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Internships?
It seems now that people should focus less on getting the "top classes," and more on looking for good places to intern at, as that's actual, referencable "experience."
Maybe not as good as "I wrote a Java language compiler in a afternoon on a C-64 for SCO," but it'd be something to point to as real-world experience.
Yah, I mean really, all these people pointing out things wrong in certain distro liscences.
How dare they!?!?
They should be happy that something other then MS is installed on the servers. I mean, that's the point of it, isn't it? Just to displace one OS with a bad liscence for another OS(or, more acurately, distro) with a bad liscence.
How dare they not just go along with it. It's almost like they care more about what's being installed then just that it's not MS.
Really, how dare they point something out that might be a problem. It's far better to let things go, and not fix the problems that exist.
If you break the GPL, then you've violated the main tenent that keeps GNU/Linux alive.
Assuming they did break the liscence, they didn't have to use GNU/Linux, in fact if they had done this with FreeBSD, you'd never even see a story like this.
It's not a question of profit, or "corperate interest." It's a question of honoring the liscence under which the code was released.
It's not the cost of high-end hardware, but the lower entry point needed for much free software.
100$ for cheap pentium, a copy of Slack, Debian, or FreeBSD, Dillo or Links, and Sylpheed is perfectly fine for a internet-ready PC, and they have now opened themselves up to the vast stores of information and communication on the internet. And if they're in a country that has laws against free speech, a proxy with such a system would work wonders
And you might even be able to go cheaper. Maybe even some of the 486s I see for 5$ on eBay could run such a set up. (I'm actually attempting to install a desktop system based on OpenBSD on a 486 with 16megs of memory just to see how viable that would be).
"Old" hardware? Maybe. Useful hardware and software? Definately.
Perhaps the biggest win for free software is that it makes free speech so inexpensive.
But just because it can't run Doom 3 or UT2k3 does not mean that cheap hardware and software that runs fine on it would not close the "digital divide."
Guessing everything the computer's running is hard.
It's based on RPMs because 1) it's a known variable, 2) it only supports THAT on RedHat, and 3) it upgrades with it being on a RedHat system as a "given."
The reason you don't see it on other distros is because with each distro/configuration you add, you add another point of "change." Libs in a different place, same for executables, same for rc files in etc, and so on and so on.
I actually used to run it on a few WMs, back in "the day" as the kids so like to call it.
These days I've run it on Fluxbox and PekWM, and both had no problems. Personally, I'm trying to write my own, as I find it a tad to memory-hungry for my tastes (that, I say, that's a pun now), but it'll work on many other WMs then MetaCity.
Work correctly is a entirely different question. OpenBox won't keep it on all virtual desktops, but other then that I can remember any that have had problems for me. Only one way to find out, though. Install and try it out.
Just run gnome-panel from a xterm(or aterm, or AnyDamnTermYouWantterm) and find out.
I've yet to find someone that wouldn't trade their box for my Mac in an instant.
*raises his hand*
I honestly prefer my Gentoo box and my FreeBSD 5.0 boxes to the Mac OS X based Macs.
Part of it is that I don't have to use Aqua on either of those boxes. The other is that they're Free OSes.
Don't get me wrong, Aqua looks nice, and I hear it's quite easy on the hands and eyes, but I don't like the idea of being forced to use any interfacet, even if it does look nice.
I also don't do any work that the Mac is specially suited for. The image editing I do is easy to accoplish with GIMP, my browsing is handled in Dillo or (on the sites it has troubles) Mozilla, I code and write in Vim, and I can watch videos with Mplayer. If I were doing Audio editing, I'd consider a Mac, or heavy video editing, assuming I could not find a open and free software alternative, but otherwise I don't understand the big draw to it.
Not meant to be a arguement, but I'll take browsing with Dillo, listening on Xmms, and coding in vim on my FreeBSD box running PekWM, not because I have to, but because I want to, anyday.
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If all you want is a NewNIX with Moz on a Windows desktop, why not just fire up Boshs and install one. It'd run faster the Cygwin, be more stable, and you wouldn't have to wait for someone to port it on up. Port it on up To Microsoft's side port it on up With a MinG-Win compiler, or Cygwin
Court TV Reporter 1: Well, it's another day of deposition on the SCO v. IBM case. Linus has just taken the Stand a- Wait a minute! That's the SCO CEO! and he's got a chair! *clang sounds* Court TV Reporter 2: AND THE CEO JUST HIT LINUS WITH A CHAIR SHOT! Oh, the court room is abuzz with anger. Trash has litter the courtroom floor! Wait, Alan Cox is coming out from the back to help out Linus! And he's cleared the courtroom! Reporter 1: It's a total debacle! Anything can happen here in the D.o.J.!
I understand your position, but if you did that, and even if SCO IS being odd, the idea of the GPL is freedom. The first time we deny someone a GPLed work, regardless of how someone may feel about them, that is the day the GPL is dead.
Free software is about software being free for everyone. Not just the people we like.
*two SCO execs come into the Transmedia office, walking slowly to Linus' desk*
Linus: Excuse me, gentlemen, can I help you? CEO1: Oh, no, we're just looking around. Ooops! *knocks over contract from corner of desk* CEO2: Ooh, how clumbsy of my associate. Linus: that's quite alright. CEO2: Well, you see, my friend here, he's really clumsy. CEO1: Yah. CEO2: He's a tad butter-fingered. CEO1: Yah CEO2: Some may say he's got a problem with depth perception. CEO1:.... Yah? CEO2: Yah. CEO1: Oh... *looks sad* Linus: Is there a point to this, gentlemen CEO2: Well, see, if you could, perhaps, have more people buy more SCO licenses, perhaps we could get my friend here some glasses. CEO1: Oooop. *knocks over pyramid of penguins from desk. Stumbles. Falls on top of them*
If you check your ESLA (End of Show License Agreement), it usually says rebroadcast is prohibited. Of course it also gives recommendations about Powerade consumption (they recommend drinking it a certain way. I'll give you a hint, it sounds like "oar"). Of course, what constitues a broadcast is entire up to the Leader, so that's a scant bit sketchy.
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No, they can not.
The current QT is released as a GPL software if it is used in GPL software. As such, it can not be revoked from being a GPL peice of software, regardless of what anyone does.
Future versions of QT may be made propriatry-only, but if that happened all that would be required is another GPL QT project to continue with a modern QT-lib.
Maybe long term, but today? Not really.
You have to retrain/fire-and-hire the IT staff.
You have to get new text books.
And let's not even talk about finding teachers for this.
I'm am about as dead-set on Free as in Speech software as anyone CAN be, but the last thing schools facing LARGE budget deficits need to hear is "you need to retool your IT staff and use new software. Now."
Maybe if we got the casinos to subsidise it..... */pipedream*
Well, if you can't open a can with your current can opener, it would stand to reason you need a GNU can opener... ^_~
It is official; Netcraft now confirms: *BSD trolling is dying
.9 billion trollers of BSD/OS. This is consistent with the number of times the "BSD is dead" troll has appeared in Slashdot posts.
One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered *BSD trolling community when IDC confirmed that *BSD trolling's market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all trolls. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD trolls have lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD trolling is collapsing in complete disarray, due to a lack of vowels to "en-l33ten" in it's name in a recent troll survey.
You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD trolling's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD trolls faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD trolling because *BSD trolling is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD trolls. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to outlive the hardware it's installed on. 486's flow like a river of blood.
FreeBSD trolling is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its zip since the introduction of devfs. The sudden and unpleasant arrival of a Nvidia driver to FreeBSD only serves to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD trolling is dying.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
SlashDot leader Cmdr states that there are ~9 trillion users of Slashdot. How many BSD trolls are there? Let's see. The number of troll versus informative *BSD posts on Slashdot is roughly in ratio of 1 to 500. Therefore there are about 9trillion/5 = 1.8 billion trollers. BSD/OS posts on Slashdot are about half of the volume of SCO lawsuit posts. Therefore there are about
All major surveys show that *BSD trolling has steadily declined in market share since FreeBSD 5.0. *BSD trolling is gravely sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD trolling is to survive at all it will be among Microsoft OS babblers. *BSD trolling continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD trolling is dead.
Fact: *BSD trolling is dying
Internships?
It seems now that people should focus less on getting the "top classes," and more on looking for good places to intern at, as that's actual, referencable "experience."
Maybe not as good as "I wrote a Java language compiler in a afternoon on a C-64 for SCO," but it'd be something to point to as real-world experience.
Yah, I mean really, all these people pointing out things wrong in certain distro liscences.
How dare they!?!?
They should be happy that something other then MS is installed on the servers. I mean, that's the point of it, isn't it? Just to displace one OS with a bad liscence for another OS(or, more acurately, distro) with a bad liscence.
How dare they not just go along with it. It's almost like they care more about what's being installed then just that it's not MS.
Really, how dare they point something out that might be a problem. It's far better to let things go, and not fix the problems that exist.
How does one go about knowing the sexuality of a OS? And what's worse is, when will these desires come out?
"Mo~~~~~~~m, Windows is trying to hump the sofa again."
"Damnit... OK, hon, just squirt it with the spray bottle."
With company over, that could be down right embarassing.
Because they can?
Welcome to capitalism.
If you break the GPL, then you've violated the main tenent that keeps GNU/Linux alive.
Assuming they did break the liscence, they didn't have to use GNU/Linux, in fact if they had done this with FreeBSD, you'd never even see a story like this.
It's not a question of profit, or "corperate interest." It's a question of honoring the liscence under which the code was released.
Or on any emails.
..... Or the desktop icons.
..... Or turn it on.
..... Actually, do you still have the box laying around?
What a WASTE....
It's not the cost of high-end hardware, but the lower entry point needed for much free software.
100$ for cheap pentium, a copy of Slack, Debian, or FreeBSD, Dillo or Links, and Sylpheed is perfectly fine for a internet-ready PC, and they have now opened themselves up to the vast stores of information and communication on the internet. And if they're in a country that has laws against free speech, a proxy with such a system would work wonders
And you might even be able to go cheaper. Maybe even some of the 486s I see for 5$ on eBay could run such a set up. (I'm actually attempting to install a desktop system based on OpenBSD on a 486 with 16megs of memory just to see how viable that would be).
"Old" hardware? Maybe. Useful hardware and software? Definately.
Perhaps the biggest win for free software is that it makes free speech so inexpensive.
But just because it can't run Doom 3 or UT2k3 does not mean that cheap hardware and software that runs fine on it would not close the "digital divide."
Install script is easy.
Guessing everything the computer's running is hard.
It's based on RPMs because 1) it's a known variable, 2) it only supports THAT on RedHat, and 3) it upgrades with it being on a RedHat system as a "given."
The reason you don't see it on other distros is because with each distro/configuration you add, you add another point of "change." Libs in a different place, same for executables, same for rc files in etc, and so on and so on.
Yes!
I actually used to run it on a few WMs, back in "the day" as the kids so like to call it.
These days I've run it on Fluxbox and PekWM, and both had no problems. Personally, I'm trying to write my own, as I find it a tad to memory-hungry for my tastes (that, I say, that's a pun now), but it'll work on many other WMs then MetaCity.
Work correctly is a entirely different question. OpenBox won't keep it on all virtual desktops, but other then that I can remember any that have had problems for me. Only one way to find out, though. Install and try it out.
Just run gnome-panel from a xterm(or aterm, or AnyDamnTermYouWantterm) and find out.
GAIM?
Why not NAIM and BitchX?
Not graphic-intense, granted, but they'd do chat and IM just fine.
Or, if you wanted GTK+ apps, attym would seem nice for IMing about, and... Eh, just stay with BitchX for IRC. ^_~
I've yet to find someone that wouldn't trade their box for my Mac in an instant.
*raises his hand*
I honestly prefer my Gentoo box and my FreeBSD 5.0 boxes to the Mac OS X based Macs.
Part of it is that I don't have to use Aqua on either of those boxes. The other is that they're Free OSes.
Don't get me wrong, Aqua looks nice, and I hear it's quite easy on the hands and eyes, but I don't like the idea of being forced to use any interfacet, even if it does look nice.
I also don't do any work that the Mac is specially suited for. The image editing I do is easy to accoplish with GIMP, my browsing is handled in Dillo or (on the sites it has troubles) Mozilla, I code and write in Vim, and I can watch videos with Mplayer. If I were doing Audio editing, I'd consider a Mac, or heavy video editing, assuming I could not find a open and free software alternative, but otherwise I don't understand the big draw to it.
Not meant to be a arguement, but I'll take browsing with Dillo, listening on Xmms, and coding in vim on my FreeBSD box running PekWM, not because I have to, but because I want to, anyday.
Why not. I mean, it is owned by AOL.
Imagine it.
The NEW Mozilla 2.0. Now faster then ever.
Powered by Google.
If all you want is a NewNIX with Moz on a Windows desktop, why not just fire up Boshs and install one. It'd run faster the Cygwin, be more stable, and you wouldn't have to wait for someone to port it on up. Port it on up
To Microsoft's side port it on up
With a MinG-Win compiler, or Cygwin
Court TV Reporter 1: Well, it's another day of deposition on the SCO v. IBM case. Linus has just taken the Stand a- Wait a minute! That's the SCO CEO! and he's got a chair!
*clang sounds*
Court TV Reporter 2: AND THE CEO JUST HIT LINUS WITH A CHAIR SHOT! Oh, the court room is abuzz with anger. Trash has litter the courtroom floor! Wait, Alan Cox is coming out from the back to help out Linus! And he's cleared the courtroom!
Reporter 1: It's a total debacle! Anything can happen here in the D.o.J.!
I'm just wondering why it hasn't happened yet.
I'd tell you, but... NDA.... You know how it is.
I understand your position, but if you did that, and even if SCO IS being odd, the idea of the GPL is freedom. The first time we deny someone a GPLed work, regardless of how someone may feel about them, that is the day the GPL is dead.
Free software is about software being free for everyone. Not just the people we like.
*two SCO execs come into the Transmedia office, walking slowly to Linus' desk*
.... Yah?
Linus: Excuse me, gentlemen, can I help you?
CEO1: Oh, no, we're just looking around. Ooops! *knocks over contract from corner of desk*
CEO2: Ooh, how clumbsy of my associate.
Linus: that's quite alright.
CEO2: Well, you see, my friend here, he's really clumsy.
CEO1: Yah.
CEO2: He's a tad butter-fingered.
CEO1: Yah
CEO2: Some may say he's got a problem with depth perception.
CEO1:
CEO2: Yah.
CEO1: Oh... *looks sad*
Linus: Is there a point to this, gentlemen
CEO2: Well, see, if you could, perhaps, have more people buy more SCO licenses, perhaps we could get my friend here some glasses.
CEO1: Oooop. *knocks over pyramid of penguins from desk. Stumbles. Falls on top of them*
Are you sure?
If you check your ESLA (End of Show License Agreement), it usually says rebroadcast is prohibited. Of course it also gives recommendations about Powerade consumption (they recommend drinking it a certain way. I'll give you a hint, it sounds like "oar"). Of course, what constitues a broadcast is entire up to the Leader, so that's a scant bit sketchy.
With all the copious storage space, backups have to go somewhere. And have you priced DVD-Rs? Aye yai yai.
A rewritable DVD that allows for deletion? Sounds perfect for backups with a occasionally full-dump to a fresh DVD.
Many people point out how silly it is to say P2P is helping pirate the Matrix, but think about the other things we see.
Doom and GTA3 being blamed for violence.
TV being blamed for poor reading skills.
McDonalds coffee blaimed for legs not being a proper cup holder.
Is it really any shock, in a society that pushes the blame like this, that the MPAA and RIAA look at P2P programs as the culprits, not the pirates?