Because Mandrake is just now trying to claw out of bankruptcy, and doesn't have money to tie down in litigation right now?
As for Red Hat and SuSe, I honestly think they don't see it as a threat. For that matter, why doesn't IBM counter-sue? Simply because A) it takes money to sue, and B) even if you win against SCO, what can you win? They have less assets then a Napster verture capitalist.
CEO: Well, the suits over. And now, we... Have a massive overstock of SCO branded mugs! Accountant: Ceramic, or plastic? CEO: Ceramic. Accountant: Ooo, that's high quality. I'll alert the stock holders!
It's just not worth the time to them, I'd imagine.
As a collector of NES carts, and a man who is FAR to familiar with the gold-plated covering on those things, I can tell you for a fact that they do scar up the carts they go on, along with a wee bit of damage to the actual system because the connector was a tad larger then most NES carts. (Some 3rd party carts had that problem too. Oh, the joy of it all)
Also, it could not play unauthorized games. All it'd do was pass a few constants into certain memory registers, and didn't have any lock-out chip of it's own. Defeating the chip with a soldering iron was easy enough though, all you'd do i-
Actually, I doubt you'll see anyone at Mircosoft would OK paying.10$ a song/unit either. I'm quite sure the people who own stock would first find I fit, then proceed to throw it.
Expectally when they'd still have to pay that when they "own" the distribution stream. (I highly doubt the RIAA would OK having their cut... cut)
I thought this is what hip-top were for. Mobile, portable IM and web services, with a full keyboard. Other then not being able to get out of range of a "base station," and using your existince computer's connection, I don't see why this is all that great.
Someone has to program Java. Someone has to program Python. Someone has to program Lisp, Scheme, Smalltalk, et al
With any of these solutions, a error in the main program brings down ALL apps based on it that touch on that error. "Well, that'll make the base they're built on better and less buggy in the long run." Will it?
When we have to write something that is not just a program, but a program for other programs to run on, think of all the special cases we have to allow for. All the open endedness that must go in. All the complexity. And that the larger the program, the more bugs that will creep in.
And, of course, someone has to write those language, and they have to be wrote in something. And we're back at square one again. Also, how can someone write a kernel in Python? Java? At some point, someone has to touch the bare metal regardless of what happens.
all computer systems should have an "undo" feature built in
Caller: Hello, tech support? I installed a new program, and it's got my computer all messed up. Tech: OK, I'm going to need to you look at the front of the computer. Do you see that ctrl key and a Z by the power button? Caller: *paniced* Yes.. Tech: OK, now, I'm going to need you to press them Caller: The power, ctrl and Z buttons? Tech:.. No just the Ctrl and Z. Caller: OK, it's powered up. Tech: NO! N-. no, power back down, a- Caller: I'm hitting the buttons and they're not doing anything. Tech:.... *gun shot. Thud* Caller: Oh, why are these things so difficult... Hello? Are you still there? Hello? Oh, while I've got you on the line, how do I change the wallpaper? Hello?
As far as I know, they are only able to pull IP on the GNU tools or SystemV Inits. The kernel, from everything I've heard, is still non-infringing, and I seem to remember them making a big deal about that before they sent the letters to the other GNU/Linux distro developers.
Personally I think if it's such a big deal, fine, let's drop the SytemV-alikeness of GNU/Linux and move to making it a BSD-like system. It's already been litigated "clean," so it'd never have any more IP BS, and it'd allow even more interoperablity with the GNU/Linux and *BSD camps.
And would could start having people fight over Gnu/Linux or GnuBSD/Linux being the proper wording. It's a win/win!:D
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You can easily set up a quick seach for anything. Right now, when I type:
google search terms
it'll do a google for the terms search terms. When I type
dict word
I get a dictionary search of the word. ANd I can add new terms with ease.
In fact, those little nicities are the reason I will never run anything but Galeon or Moz/Firebird on any of my computers, as they both have means for doing the above
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Now... what's to stop someone from creating a compeating product, based on linux
Market viablity.
There are 3 consoles on the market now. Dreamcast, produced by Sega, a known gaming house with prior console experience (however you may feel about that experience) was released and failed.
Indreama, a console to be based on GNU/Linux, failed. Why? Inablity to raise funds.
A emulation console? Sounds fun. How are you going to find anything to sell/play on it? Game consoles are sold on the premise that all the money they lose/"don't make" on the console is made up by liscensing the ablity to create games for the system. The console is often sold at-price, or as low as they can, so that the install base is large enough that other content producers will bite and pay up to get liscensing/APIs for the console.
Of course, if all you want is a console running GNU/Linux, Sony sells a PS2 kit that'll run RedHat Linux
If we made Linux, the kernel, hold a X11 implimentation , wouldn't we need a new GNU tool set for everything? After all, all the terminals are written for the console. All X11 terminals are wrote with the assumption of a windows manager running.
To put X11 in the kernel, it would need a base set of tools far larger then what's available. A window manager, a set of basical tools ready for X, and some way to decide how it'll display without any configuation files (someone has to power it up to configure it) And for what? What benefit does adding it to the kernel add?
It'd be a interesting project to see, but practical? Not very.
This completely discounts that the large majority of GNU/Linux installs are for servers, that would be seen by no one, and as such would do better without any GUIs.
Any benefits that would be had are already had by the frame-buffer. Large console screens, and now we you can even put X on them, with DRI support. So, honestly, I don't see why we'd need X11 to be added to the kernel.
Not to be blunt, but teaching Office, TODAY, is better then teaching OpenOffice the way it is taught.
Follow me here, I have a point.
Office is not taught as "here is a problem, reason out the logic, find a solution." It is taught as "you get result A by clicking buttons X, Y, and Z." Nothing more, nothing less.
Most people working with Office who move from one version to the next are lost until they relearn where to click, assuming they move things.
To make OSS a solution in schools would take a reworking of the teaching process, and THAT is why professors will not consider it.
Until you change how things are taught, you will not be able to use anything BUT Office in the class room. And considering how little the average teacher makes, do you think they want to change anything about what they're doing right now?
FreeBSD is wonderful. I use it as my desktop right now.
But if you want something similar for GNU/Linux, snag Gentoo. No binary support yet, but they GRP should be coming out eventually. ^^;;; Otherwise, it's like ports.
A wee bit less stable, but it's the only GNU/Linux distro I'll install anymore.
Also, the NetBSD ports tree has a binary package for it's ports tools for Slackware GNU/Linux.
When I'm talking about the kernel, I say Linux. When I'm talking about a OS based around the GNU tools, I say GNU/Linux.
I actually made this distinction with someone who was looking to pick up a "try it out" distro, that the kernel was not the OS, and that a "linux" distro could really use any tools it wanted. The fact that it's using the GNU tools should at least be mentioned.
Otherwise, someone sitting at a GNU/NetBSD system would be just as right to say "I'm using a Linux system," when in reality it's a NetBSD kernel running everything...
Actually, yes. Marvel has been releasing complete collections of the early XMen comics, along with other comics, for a while as bound, telephone-book sized collections. I can't remember the name, I believe it was "Absolute Xmen," but they may have gone out of print by now. (The first printing was some time around 1997)
If your looking for them, go into a comic shop, and ask them about the Xmen "trade paperback." (A trade paperback is just a collection of the comics in one large volume)
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But, you can't do that..... I mean, what about the GIF patent.
Oh, GNU know.
Because Mandrake is just now trying to claw out of bankruptcy, and doesn't have money to tie down in litigation right now?
As for Red Hat and SuSe, I honestly think they don't see it as a threat. For that matter, why doesn't IBM counter-sue? Simply because A) it takes money to sue, and B) even if you win against SCO, what can you win? They have less assets then a Napster verture capitalist.
CEO: Well, the suits over. And now, we... Have a massive overstock of SCO branded mugs!
Accountant: Ceramic, or plastic?
CEO: Ceramic.
Accountant: Ooo, that's high quality. I'll alert the stock holders!
It's just not worth the time to them, I'd imagine.
Actually, it's worse then that.
As a collector of NES carts, and a man who is FAR to familiar with the gold-plated covering on those things, I can tell you for a fact that they do scar up the carts they go on, along with a wee bit of damage to the actual system because the connector was a tad larger then most NES carts. (Some 3rd party carts had that problem too. Oh, the joy of it all)
Also, it could not play unauthorized games. All it'd do was pass a few constants into certain memory registers, and didn't have any lock-out chip of it's own. Defeating the chip with a soldering iron was easy enough though, all you'd do i-
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You never know. He could be from the future....
But now you know too much.
Does that 70% include this article. The last thing I need is someone to tell me I've got too much to read.
It's like someone yelling to me "hey, it's loud in here." Just because they're too old. Feh.
Actually, I doubt you'll see anyone at Mircosoft would OK paying .10$ a song/unit either. I'm quite sure the people who own stock would first find I fit, then proceed to throw it.
... cut)
Expectally when they'd still have to pay that when they "own" the distribution stream. (I highly doubt the RIAA would OK having their cut
I thought this is what hip-top were for. Mobile, portable IM and web services, with a full keyboard. Other then not being able to get out of range of a "base station," and using your existince computer's connection, I don't see why this is all that great.
Is there something I'm missing here?
But only in Soviet Russia, you insensative clod!
Someone has to program Java.
Someone has to program Python.
Someone has to program Lisp, Scheme, Smalltalk, et al
With any of these solutions, a error in the main program brings down ALL apps based on it that touch on that error. "Well, that'll make the base they're built on better and less buggy in the long run." Will it?
When we have to write something that is not just a program, but a program for other programs to run on, think of all the special cases we have to allow for. All the open endedness that must go in. All the complexity. And that the larger the program, the more bugs that will creep in.
And, of course, someone has to write those language, and they have to be wrote in something. And we're back at square one again. Also, how can someone write a kernel in Python? Java? At some point, someone has to touch the bare metal regardless of what happens.
all computer systems should have an "undo" feature built in
.. No just the Ctrl and Z. .... *gun shot. Thud*
Caller: Hello, tech support? I installed a new program, and it's got my computer all messed up.
Tech: OK, I'm going to need to you look at the front of the computer. Do you see that ctrl key and a Z by the power button?
Caller: *paniced* Yes..
Tech: OK, now, I'm going to need you to press them
Caller: The power, ctrl and Z buttons?
Tech:
Caller: OK, it's powered up.
Tech: NO! N-. no, power back down, a-
Caller: I'm hitting the buttons and they're not doing anything.
Tech:
Caller: Oh, why are these things so difficult... Hello? Are you still there? Hello? Oh, while I've got you on the line, how do I change the wallpaper? Hello?
*takes out tape recorder* mental note, copy SCO code into Fluxbox.... Mwa ha ah... MWA HA HA... MWAAA HAHAHAHAHAHAAAaaaaa.....
Err.... I was thinking about something someone else said. Yes.... Someone else..... <_< >_>
As far as I know, they are only able to pull IP on the GNU tools or SystemV Inits. The kernel, from everything I've heard, is still non-infringing, and I seem to remember them making a big deal about that before they sent the letters to the other GNU/Linux distro developers.
:D
Personally I think if it's such a big deal, fine, let's drop the SytemV-alikeness of GNU/Linux and move to making it a BSD-like system. It's already been litigated "clean," so it'd never have any more IP BS, and it'd allow even more interoperablity with the GNU/Linux and *BSD camps.
And would could start having people fight over Gnu/Linux or GnuBSD/Linux being the proper wording. It's a win/win!
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Moz/Firebird does that too.
You can easily set up a quick seach for anything. Right now, when I type:
google search terms
it'll do a google for the terms search terms. When I type
dict word
I get a dictionary search of the word. ANd I can add new terms with ease.
In fact, those little nicities are the reason I will never run anything but Galeon or Moz/Firebird on any of my computers, as they both have means for doing the above
Now... what's to stop someone from creating a compeating product, based on linux
Market viablity.
There are 3 consoles on the market now. Dreamcast, produced by Sega, a known gaming house with prior console experience (however you may feel about that experience) was released and failed.
Indreama, a console to be based on GNU/Linux, failed. Why? Inablity to raise funds.
A emulation console? Sounds fun. How are you going to find anything to sell/play on it? Game consoles are sold on the premise that all the money they lose/"don't make" on the console is made up by liscensing the ablity to create games for the system. The console is often sold at-price, or as low as they can, so that the install base is large enough that other content producers will bite and pay up to get liscensing/APIs for the console.
Of course, if all you want is a console running GNU/Linux, Sony sells a PS2 kit that'll run RedHat Linux
Could it?
If we made Linux, the kernel, hold a X11 implimentation , wouldn't we need a new GNU tool set for everything? After all, all the terminals are written for the console. All X11 terminals are wrote with the assumption of a windows manager running.
To put X11 in the kernel, it would need a base set of tools far larger then what's available. A window manager, a set of basical tools ready for X, and some way to decide how it'll display without any configuation files (someone has to power it up to configure it) And for what? What benefit does adding it to the kernel add?
It'd be a interesting project to see, but practical? Not very.
This completely discounts that the large majority of GNU/Linux installs are for servers, that would be seen by no one, and as such would do better without any GUIs.
Any benefits that would be had are already had by the frame-buffer. Large console screens, and now we you can even put X on them, with DRI support. So, honestly, I don't see why we'd need X11 to be added to the kernel.
Unbiased, high-quality recording could have a compelling social effect;
Or, FilmGIMP could take off like a speeder with pot in law enforcement circles.
I'm not bitter, I'm just right.
"Is SCO litigating itself into irrelevance?"
At this point, I don't think they need litigation to do that.
Well, where else are you going to put the landers? On a moon base? In Phoebos?
(hey, I never claimed to be original)
Not to be blunt, but teaching Office, TODAY, is better then teaching OpenOffice the way it is taught.
Follow me here, I have a point.
Office is not taught as "here is a problem, reason out the logic, find a solution." It is taught as "you get result A by clicking buttons X, Y, and Z." Nothing more, nothing less.
Most people working with Office who move from one version to the next are lost until they relearn where to click, assuming they move things.
To make OSS a solution in schools would take a reworking of the teaching process, and THAT is why professors will not consider it.
Until you change how things are taught, you will not be able to use anything BUT Office in the class room. And considering how little the average teacher makes, do you think they want to change anything about what they're doing right now?
Just my 2 cents, do with them what you will.
FreeBSD is wonderful. I use it as my desktop right now.
But if you want something similar for GNU/Linux, snag Gentoo. No binary support yet, but they GRP should be coming out eventually. ^^;;; Otherwise, it's like ports.
A wee bit less stable, but it's the only GNU/Linux distro I'll install anymore.
Also, the NetBSD ports tree has a binary package for it's ports tools for Slackware GNU/Linux.
When I'm talking about the kernel, I say Linux.
When I'm talking about a OS based around the GNU tools, I say GNU/Linux.
I actually made this distinction with someone who was looking to pick up a "try it out" distro, that the kernel was not the OS, and that a "linux" distro could really use any tools it wanted. The fact that it's using the GNU tools should at least be mentioned.
Otherwise, someone sitting at a GNU/NetBSD system would be just as right to say "I'm using a Linux system," when in reality it's a NetBSD kernel running everything...
And now my head's all dizzy.
But, that's the way I see it, at least.
"This edition of KDE is brought to you in part by Tide(TM). Tide(TM), it's the Tidest. And also by the financial support of coders like you."
Actually, yes. Marvel has been releasing complete collections of the early XMen comics, along with other comics, for a while as bound, telephone-book sized collections. I can't remember the name, I believe it was "Absolute Xmen," but they may have gone out of print by now. (The first printing was some time around 1997)
If your looking for them, go into a comic shop, and ask them about the Xmen "trade paperback." (A trade paperback is just a collection of the comics in one large volume)