because their algorithm is exploited. because the internet is migrating to stupid youtube crap which contains the info you needed after 15 minutes of irrelevant stuff. because wikipedia, which for all its good intentions is a monoculture, gets top spot.
and finally, because by dictating which protocol you should use, caching be damned, and which mobile layout optimization should be performed, they ceased being a search engine.
A search engine is about Content not Presentation.
Indeed, it reminds me of non T9 sms input from the old style cellphone: once you got accustomed you could type with the phone in the pocket (useful in winter).
Well said, it's nice to see some common sense. Shame on you, journalists and media, who go on endless debates when the case against labeling something as something is undefendable.
The message I get is: "we don't like when you use a mail client to access gmail, we'd rather prefer the web interface, potentially monitoring your behavior down to the keypress and the time before you scroll past that pic, and not letting you store the content on your PC by default. So let's start by not caring about that cert expiration, let's see what the public reactions are."
> Then you should have no problems finding a few examples that illustrates Microsofts visceral hatred of open source (your words).
LOL alternate universes exist and you come from one. Or you troll very badly. Nice to see how a blatant troll collects mod points.
Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer (...) calls Linux "a cancer that attaches itself in an intellectual property sense to everything it touches."
But these are words from a guy prone to monkey dance. Let's see.
From: Bill Gates Sent: Sunday, January 24, 1999 8:41 AM To: Jeff Westorinen; Ben Fathi Cc: Carl Stork (Exchange); Nathan Myhrvold; Eric Rudder Subject: ACPI extensions
One thing I find myself wondering about is whether we shouldnâ(TM)t try and make the âoeACPIâ extensions somehow Windows specific.
It seems unfortunate if we do this work and get our partners to do the work and the results is that Linux works great without having to do the work.
Maybe there is no way to avoid this problem but it does bother me.
But wait, poor Gates just wants it to be windows specific not to boycott FOSS, right? Except that the opposite happened:
Some of us remember the story of why Linux kernel responds "False" when ACPI BIOS asks if the operating system is Linux. We have found yet another case where mimicking the Windows behavior instead of writing to the spec is the right choice if you just want your machine to work properly
Simulations are inspired by the way the universe behaves. If you discover that the universe can be implemented in the same ways a simulation is, you have simply done a kind of circular reasoning. Reality looks like a simulation that looks like reality.
Not to detract from studies (captcha: proceed), It is very interesting to model how the universe MIGHT be implemented, but the ultimate implementation, or whether the concept of implementation has any meaning applied to the universe as an object, are theoretically and practically beyond our reach.
> Emulators DON'T have the quirks and timing issues of real hardware
In fact the comparison was among the host hw, not the emulated hw vs. bare metal. The code correctly implementing a full VM must run with the same results on all hardware where it has correctly been ported. I know it's theoretical because VM code gets advantage of bare metal (hw clock, RNG) but then the simulation is not perfect and it's a problem of the sim, not of the example.
To cut it shorter, in the domain of tic tac toe games defined as the sequence of X and O placements, one game is exactly the same no matter if it was vs. man or vs. machine, or on a blackboard, or on a piece of paper, as all of such variables are metadata, not data.
as the AC also said in his words, the timing inside the simulation is the simulated cpu time, the simulated hw clock cannot link to a real clock else the insulation is not there.
The universe does not need to stop us, because from the inside of it you can never prove you have the faintest idea of the way it is implemented, even if you got to model and understand every single particle and every single interaction. Does an insulated VM run on intel or on powerpc or on a commodore 64 with a hell of a RAM expansion? no way to know from the inside of it.
So the most rational reason becomes: they tried using systemd to speed things up but some not well documented glitch made the thing shut down. The short circuit is a scapegoat.
I imagined a cluster of syllables, and there it is. Putting an end to such a miasma of glyphs might be the only nice thing the French have ever done in their entire history.
Romans ruled the world with 23 letters, all caps. This is what I call a proper thing.
> How about us people who used to think Debian was the very best Linux server system in existence, and who evangelized its use and put it in businesses and donated to SPI.
Fakedebianist pls, I don't think there are that many of you that don't know what a stable release is.
Jessie is about to be debian stable, which means that the packages have undergone "some" QA testing, which provides the quality that made debian what it is.
Somebody asking to backport stuff to jessie at this stage, after the problem was known months in advance or so TFS says, is either ignorant or malicious.
The correct way to handle this is to ship a tested version of chrome, which implies no kernel patching, and apply security patches as usual. Those itching to run the latest chrome can run a newer kernel, run a backported chrome + kernel patch (maybe package it in a module and use the dkms system which works for my 3d drivers very well), run chrome in a VM (which is what I'd do if I was concerned about what data flows between chrome and google).
The debian dev rejecting the request has been rude, but he ends up being right.
"Why" implies pinpointing a cause, a cause implies a time reference. "Why" is therefore undefined outside time. The question therefore does not necessarily makes sense.
Back to topic, I prefer the idea of an infinite in time universe. It does not exclude a god: Think f(x)=x for x in R. You have just defined a both ways infinite set of results and you know each f automatically since it's so easy to calculate. So, you, a mortal, made an abstraction who is infinite in two ways. A point in your universe can travel indefinitely yet the abstraction itself had an origin. In fact I was arguing these kind of things around here too, so I can't even be accused of readjusting in a "no true scotman" fashion.
It's way better than the big bang, because the expansion of space itself, dark energy and dark matter are, until proven otherwise, copouts. Useful copouts maybe, but so were epicycles.
The younger and dumber Jobs bet the company on new shiny tech, forfeiting entire lines like the apple II in the process. The MacOS pre-quicktime also offered the most consistent user experience ever. If you wanted to do digital audio reliably, the ancient design of MacOS beat the much touted preemptive multitasking, memory protected Win systems.
Result: Apple on constant brink of collapse, saved by Microsoft who bought Apple stock so they could say We are not a monopoly.
The older Jobs, butthurt after being ousted by Apple, returns as a control freak, cranks out colored macs with no expansion options, the ipod (a portable storage unit who could not work as portable storage, an item with a standard connection that needed custom and single platform software to work), the Iphone (they saw nokia put a pc in a phone with the nokia 770, and so they put the equivalent of a locked down console in a phone, BRILLIANT), treats users as dumbasses (you're holding it wrong).
Result? Microsoft dethroned, AND History rewritten so that Jobs is synonimous with genius.
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Funnily enough, the iPod which did not work as a removable HD is the thing that made me switch away from apple, some 12 years ago.
bad luck Brian:
posts first post
every other post in the discussion is also a FIRST post.
because their algorithm is exploited. because the internet is migrating to stupid youtube crap which contains the info you needed after 15 minutes of irrelevant stuff. because wikipedia, which for all its good intentions is a monoculture, gets top spot.
and finally, because by dictating which protocol you should use, caching be damned, and which mobile layout optimization should be performed, they ceased being a search engine.
A search engine is about Content not Presentation.
unless the diaries are in the public domain, isn't this pretty cut and dry?
Wait, what? Fegelein had been instructed to put them in the public domain, he must have f*cked it up.
Bring me Fegelein!! FEGELEIN!! FEGELEIN!!
Indeed, it reminds me of non T9 sms input from the old style cellphone: once you got accustomed you could type with the phone in the pocket (useful in winter).
Well said, it's nice to see some common sense. Shame on you, journalists and media, who go on endless debates when the case against labeling something as something is undefendable.
Time for something like GNU Name System (GNS)
> Trolls are usually above average literacy.
Your right.
QWERY keyboard layou is the bes, you insensiive clod!
The message I get is: "we don't like when you use a mail client to access gmail, we'd rather prefer the web interface, potentially monitoring your behavior down to the keypress and the time before you scroll past that pic, and not letting you store the content on your PC by default. So let's start by not caring about that cert expiration, let's see what the public reactions are."
> a failure in regards to my personal fiances.
that's what they said.
> Then you should have no problems finding a few examples that illustrates Microsofts visceral hatred of open source (your words).
LOL alternate universes exist and you come from one. Or you troll very badly. Nice to see how a blatant troll collects mod points.
Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer (...) calls Linux "a cancer that attaches itself in an intellectual property sense to everything it touches."
But these are words from a guy prone to monkey dance. Let's see.
From: Bill Gates
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 1999 8:41 AM
To: Jeff Westorinen; Ben Fathi
Cc: Carl Stork (Exchange); Nathan Myhrvold; Eric Rudder
Subject: ACPI extensions
One thing I find myself wondering about is whether we shouldnâ(TM)t try and make the âoeACPIâ extensions somehow Windows specific.
It seems unfortunate if we do this work and get our partners to do the work and the results is that Linux works great without having to do the work.
Maybe there is no way to avoid this problem but it does bother me.
But wait, poor Gates just wants it to be windows specific not to boycott FOSS, right?
Except that the opposite happened:
Some of us remember the story of why Linux kernel responds "False" when ACPI BIOS asks if the operating system is Linux. We have found yet another case where mimicking the Windows behavior instead of writing to the spec is the right choice if you just want your machine to work properly
What about the 50million cash to SCO?
first things first: have you tried uninstalling systemd?
Simulations are inspired by the way the universe behaves.
If you discover that the universe can be implemented in the same ways a simulation is, you have simply done a kind of circular reasoning. Reality looks like a simulation that looks like reality.
Not to detract from studies (captcha: proceed), It is very interesting to model how the universe MIGHT be implemented, but the ultimate implementation, or whether the concept of implementation has any meaning applied to the universe as an object, are theoretically and practically beyond our reach.
> Emulators DON'T have the quirks and timing issues of real hardware
In fact the comparison was among the host hw, not the emulated hw vs. bare metal. The code correctly implementing a full VM must run with the same results on all hardware where it has correctly been ported. I know it's theoretical because VM code gets advantage of bare metal (hw clock, RNG) but then the simulation is not perfect and it's a problem of the sim, not of the example.
To cut it shorter, in the domain of tic tac toe games defined as the sequence of X and O placements, one game is exactly the same no matter if it was vs. man or vs. machine, or on a blackboard, or on a piece of paper, as all of such variables are metadata, not data.
as the AC also said in his words, the timing inside the simulation is the simulated cpu time, the simulated hw clock cannot link to a real clock else the insulation is not there.
The universe does not need to stop us, because from the inside of it you can never prove you have the faintest idea of the way it is implemented, even if you got to model and understand every single particle and every single interaction. Does an insulated VM run on intel or on powerpc or on a commodore 64 with a hell of a RAM expansion? no way to know from the inside of it.
So the most rational reason becomes: they tried using systemd to speed things up but some not well documented glitch made the thing shut down. The short circuit is a scapegoat.
I imagined a cluster of syllables, and there it is.
Putting an end to such a miasma of glyphs might be the only nice thing the French have ever done in their entire history.
Romans ruled the world with 23 letters, all caps. This is what I call a proper thing.
> How about us people who used to think Debian was the very best Linux server system in existence, and who evangelized its use and put it in businesses and donated to SPI.
Fakedebianist pls, I don't think there are that many of you that don't know what a stable release is.
Jessie is about to be debian stable, which means that the packages have undergone "some" QA testing, which provides the quality that made debian what it is.
Somebody asking to backport stuff to jessie at this stage, after the problem was known months in advance or so TFS says, is either ignorant or malicious.
The correct way to handle this is to ship a tested version of chrome, which implies no kernel patching, and apply security patches as usual. Those itching to run the latest chrome can run a newer kernel, run a backported chrome + kernel patch (maybe package it in a module and use the dkms system which works for my 3d drivers very well), run chrome in a VM (which is what I'd do if I was concerned about what data flows between chrome and google).
The debian dev rejecting the request has been rude, but he ends up being right.
> Now time for me to switch to Windows!
Why bother switching now? wait for next monday and you will automatically have the full windows experience.
Then, mr hardtoplease, wait for the systemd based implementation, it is right around the corner (holding a knife).
"Why" implies pinpointing a cause, a cause implies a time reference. "Why" is therefore undefined outside time. The question therefore does not necessarily makes sense.
Back to topic, I prefer the idea of an infinite in time universe. It does not exclude a god: Think f(x)=x for x in R. You have just defined a both ways infinite set of results and you know each f automatically since it's so easy to calculate. So, you, a mortal, made an abstraction who is infinite in two ways. A point in your universe can travel indefinitely yet the abstraction itself had an origin.
In fact I was arguing these kind of things around here too, so I can't even be accused of readjusting in a "no true scotman" fashion.
It's way better than the big bang, because the expansion of space itself, dark energy and dark matter are, until proven otherwise, copouts. Useful copouts maybe, but so were epicycles.
Bad advice. He is probably trying to clean up systemd itself.
Let's say you want to put an mp3 on an ipod and retrieve it from another pc, which is ABC tier stuff on most cheap players.
Detail the steps if you disagree it's a comic endeavour on the ipod.
Don't forget to mention the case where the other pc is linux and the ipod needed some firewire id put in a file.
Firewire ID... on an USB device. This is Kafka tier stuff.
The younger and dumber Jobs bet the company on new shiny tech, forfeiting entire lines like the apple II in the process. The MacOS pre-quicktime also offered the most consistent user experience ever. If you wanted to do digital audio reliably, the ancient design of MacOS beat the much touted preemptive multitasking, memory protected Win systems.
Result: Apple on constant brink of collapse, saved by Microsoft who bought Apple stock so they could say We are not a monopoly.
The older Jobs, butthurt after being ousted by Apple, returns as a control freak, cranks out colored macs with no expansion options, the ipod (a portable storage unit who could not work as portable storage, an item with a standard connection that needed custom and single platform software to work), the Iphone (they saw nokia put a pc in a phone with the nokia 770, and so they put the equivalent of a locked down console in a phone, BRILLIANT), treats users as dumbasses (you're holding it wrong).
Result? Microsoft dethroned, AND History rewritten so that Jobs is synonimous with genius.
Who is "the prince of this world" again? QED.