I think it's indeed an extension of the phenomenon you can see happening in those toy 2d simulators of gravity of stars and planets: start with a chaotic configuration, let it evolve for some time, and see how the stuff often evolves in one big central blob with possibly some circular orbits and short lived elliptical ones
On a smartphone it's nice to have apps. Is the win7 dev environment much compatible with win8? if not, very few brave souls are going to develop apps for win 7, there is little installed base and no future at all. Without apps why bother with a smartphone at all? Get a sufficiently advanced feature phone and enjoy more battery life and less malware.
IMHO even if the next iphone is cooler than the previous ones and the competition, there can't be the same amount of emotion over the arrival of a fifth generation of whatever product. The next big thing needs to be different enough from the current way of interacting with iphone and tablets. Apple will still be dominant because apple products say: "I can afford to spend more money than what's needed" and there's a market for that.
To counter your luck with windows: my acer aspire one with the amd APU 50 with win7 crashed during the first boot ever, while on the "god knows what it's doing" configuration/registration/whatever thing.
The hardware is not at fault having worked reliably under linux for one year, even if the support of the hardware is not fully functional.
Now, a preinstalled OS that crashes during the post-pre-installation phase is something you should find on a comic strip, not IRL.
What about a win7 desktop that transfers to the same USB3 disk data in a FAT partition at 20 mb/s less speed than it does when the partition is reformatted to NTFS, in the same session? What about all the win desktops that cease network operation because of a misconfigured router that shouldn't act as DNS server, while the linux workstations on the same network continue to hum along happily?
Anyway all of this is irrelevant. Those who understand the importance of using an OS which stays out of the way instead of being a tool that a corporation employs to make more profit take the time to try alternatives. Those who don't will be stuck in the 3 years upgrade cycle for their basic office automation needs and think it's normal.
Maybe the aim is discouraging people from implementing alternative browsers. Most web stuff being reimplemented in html and a bunch of browsers turned app clients, with the same sets of plugins... a very controlled environment, much unlike the "real" internet.
I think the plan is: 1 put vitally important control systems, that only a retarded flea on acid would put on the net, on the net. 2 wait 3 crackers hack them for the lulz or for profit 4 claim you need total control of every aspect of the internet to secure it 5 control whatever aspect you wanted to control in the first place 6 profit!
Or, I launch some pennies over into the neighbour's house, so I can look for them, when the search becomes tiring I'll have a swim in his pool.
> It's sexist in that if a very talented woman programmer was going around hacking in the kernel and found it, it might make her feel uncomfortabe.
If she has small boobs. If she has plenty, she would think "F*ck yea" and it would make her day:)
Seems a dangerous precedent, though. If I see a comment from a guy with the same name of the cat which was roadkilled recently, I'd feel uncomfortable too.
Or what if a cleverly coded routine puts all programmers @ MS or Google to shame? Should it be rewritten to make those guys more confident?
Are you sure that this represents the nation your founding fathers had in mind?
IIRC applescript had localized versions. There wasn't a problem in reading foreign scripts because keywords were translated (at one point keyword must be recognizable to the interpreter, that makes it relatively easy to translate them.
It is still not a good idea, of course. You need to copypaste a script from a blog and have it translated by the interpreter before understanding it.
And as a foreigner I can attest that the translation of keywords is a non-existent problem. Either you know the syntax of the whole command (parentheses, colons, semicolons, tabs, whatever) or you look it up. Once you have memorized it, could be english, your tongue, or LOLCODE, doesn't matter.
I'd possibly endorse localized versions of Logo and Smalltalk for basic teaching to kids. Everything else is overkill.
So, to recap the thread: 1 openoffice (i'd say libreoffice) does office work well 2 but not for complex documents 3 but for complex document office is not good either, you would be better off with latex 4 latex? we need simpler stuff right, so GOTO 1
I think the intelligent design stroke is in making such asteroids STOP hitting the earth.
Jokes aside: an eternal creator can create a world populated with creatures with free will, completely random interactions, no interference from the creator itself, that ends up EXACTLY how the creator wished. Because the creator creates time too, he is not bound by it. I am not saying this world has random interactions, a creator, free will. I am saying that even by our restricted logic, the creator and the nature of creation are completely orthogonal.
Once you damn people realize this simple concept, I hope you start treating the evolution vs intelligent design debate as the one of purple vs. salty.
Remember, the media pushes sterile debates, they can get endless ink out of it if you're naive, they keep our attention off productive debates if you're a conspiracy nut.
Let's make examples. I'm interested. When RMS tells Linus "Bitkeeper is a bad idea", he turns out right. When RMS talks about windows as a virus/spyware, he turns out right, you let your PC be owned in the friggin' TOS. When he dreams up a world of free software, which was the frigging NORM in the real world of early computers, the dream gets real, albeit for a very limited set of hardware.
RMS is an idealist? of course. But the effects of his position is, practically, useful to return control in the hand of the user. And that is pragmatically good for the user in the long run.
If you want to hear pure unadulterated fantasy, listen to CEOs and politicians. Elop and his "nokia is betting all on winphones", anyone?
And I say all this while deeply disagreeing on him on this issue.
A guy wants to give his intellectual creation only to those who pay? LET HIM, DO NOT COPY THOSE DAMN FILES. YOU ARE NOT STEALING BUT YOU ARE NOT RESPECTING THE OWNER'S WISH.
But also: HE MUST BE PREVENTED FROM MAKING PEOPLE LISTEN TO HIS STUFF FOR FREE. Because that is akin to the first free hit a crack dealer GIVES OUT. IT IS NOT FAIR TO LET ME LISTEN FOR FREE AND THEN ASKING ME TO PAY CAUSE I WANT THE SONG WHO GOT STUCK IN MY HEAD. And also: WHENEVER HIS CREATION IS FOUND TO BE PARTIALLY UNORIGINAL HE MUST GIVE PEOPLE BACK THE MONEY THEY SPENT ON IT IN THE PROPORTION OF UNORIGINAL VS ORIGINAL CONTENT.
Now, THIS is ideal justice. Not RMS's and especially not MAFIAA's.
The problem is, they are not wrong. Even if they usually don't see the problem.
It's not a matter of how many people vaccines have saved. It's a matter of what is put into EACH vial of vaccine, for what purpose it is administered etc. etc. etc.
In this case, and in countless others, more precaution and testing should be performed. And vaccinations should not be the duct tape that keep the health of the poor chicken good enough, the animal should have good living conditions. No matter if the cost soars, because it simply approaches the real cost.
I didn't RTF* but it's obvious that Bose has prior art on expensive, shiny, thin stuff to show off to people, that has some audio related secondary function. Waaayyy before apple. Probably they were ashamed of patenting the concept as it is. Too bad, they'd have apple by the cojones if they did.
Google tools may not have anything, but there are Firefox extensions like "after the deadline". I don't know how functional it is, but that's the right way to address the problem.
Copypasting to word? Even if it were FOSS, it would be terribly inefficient.
Everybody is. So what? According to the (unproven of course) NT the Christ says: "nobody gets saved except through me". But no human cannot tell Him whom to save or not, it's HIS prerogative. Mt. 19 -> Jesus looked at them and said, âoeWith man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.â
> Religion means fighting non-believers and taking power FROM them in Allah's/Yahweh's/FSM's name.
Luke 9:5 If people do not welcome you, shake the dust off your feet. So you must s/welcome/believe/ and s/shake the dust off your feet/overpower them/ to get from the bible to religion as you define it. If you think it is defined by the acts of people declaring themselves religious, Mt 7:23 says you can't.
I always say atheism because is an acceptable default. Why bother bashing incorrectly "religion"?
And take the FSM out until some hundreds people die for true belief in him like it happens for the monotheistic god and a score of others.
So, when PCs have finally solved the problem of reliably working with standard OS and data (thanks to FOSS) we scrap it all to be more dependent on external providers.
It's not like prices will go up when the cloud becomes the only choice, oh no.
I said "we" but in truth, it's "they", the guys who seek more control over our computing experience (and have been doing so since they started closing the source and making a guy called Stallman have a working printer).
I dunno about living in Afghanistan, but here the population is not scared and didn't decide to be groped at airports. Population is forced to submit to screening at gates.
If a rational debate about security from terrorist attacks on flights had ever been made, it would have concluded that a determined attacker with a bit of equipment can take down whatever civilian flight and escape, without needing to pass through gates. Ergo, both Al Qaeda and the TSA's objectives are likely different from what they proclaim to us retarded masses.
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I think it's indeed an extension of the phenomenon you can see happening in those toy 2d simulators of gravity of stars and planets: start with a chaotic configuration, let it evolve for some time, and see how the stuff often evolves in one big central blob with possibly some circular orbits and short lived elliptical ones
On a smartphone it's nice to have apps. Is the win7 dev environment much compatible with win8? if not, very few brave souls are going to develop apps for win 7, there is little installed base and no future at all. Without apps why bother with a smartphone at all? Get a sufficiently advanced feature phone and enjoy more battery life and less malware.
IMHO even if the next iphone is cooler than the previous ones and the competition, there can't be the same amount of emotion over the arrival of a fifth generation of whatever product. The next big thing needs to be different enough from the current way of interacting with iphone and tablets. Apple will still be dominant because apple products say: "I can afford to spend more money than what's needed" and there's a market for that.
To counter your luck with windows: my acer aspire one with the amd APU 50 with win7 crashed during the first boot ever, while on the "god knows what it's doing" configuration/registration/whatever thing.
The hardware is not at fault having worked reliably under linux for one year, even if the support of the hardware is not fully functional.
Now, a preinstalled OS that crashes during the post-pre-installation phase is something you should find on a comic strip, not IRL.
What about a win7 desktop that transfers to the same USB3 disk data in a FAT partition at 20 mb/s less speed than it does when the partition is reformatted to NTFS, in the same session? What about all the win desktops that cease network operation because of a misconfigured router that shouldn't act as DNS server, while the linux workstations on the same network continue to hum along happily?
Anyway all of this is irrelevant. Those who understand the importance of using an OS which stays out of the way instead of being a tool that a corporation employs to make more profit take the time to try alternatives. Those who don't will be stuck in the 3 years upgrade cycle for their basic office automation needs and think it's normal.
>I paid good money to have you guys assassinated.
You must be new here: just spark off an argument between vi and emacs and we'll be at each other's throat, for free.
Emacs users will win because throttling someone is far easier than inserting the average key combo.
Maybe the aim is discouraging people from implementing alternative browsers.
Most web stuff being reimplemented in html and a bunch of browsers turned app clients, with the same sets of plugins... a very controlled environment, much unlike the "real" internet.
I think the plan is:
1 put vitally important control systems, that only a retarded flea on acid would put on the net, on the net.
2 wait
3 crackers hack them for the lulz or for profit
4 claim you need total control of every aspect of the internet to secure it
5 control whatever aspect you wanted to control in the first place
6 profit!
Or, I launch some pennies over into the neighbour's house, so I can look for them, when the search becomes tiring I'll have a swim in his pool.
> It's sexist in that if a very talented woman programmer was going around hacking in the kernel and found it, it might make her feel uncomfortabe.
If she has small boobs. If she has plenty, she would think "F*ck yea" and it would make her day :)
Seems a dangerous precedent, though. If I see a comment from a guy with the same name of the cat which was roadkilled recently, I'd feel uncomfortable too.
Or what if a cleverly coded routine puts all programmers @ MS or Google to shame? Should it be rewritten to make those guys more confident?
Are you sure that this represents the nation your founding fathers had in mind?
IIRC applescript had localized versions. There wasn't a problem in reading foreign scripts because keywords were translated (at one point keyword must be recognizable to the interpreter, that makes it relatively easy to translate them.
It is still not a good idea, of course. You need to copypaste a script from a blog and have it translated by the interpreter before understanding it.
And as a foreigner I can attest that the translation of keywords is a non-existent problem. Either you know the syntax of the whole command (parentheses, colons, semicolons, tabs, whatever) or you look it up. Once you have memorized it, could be english, your tongue, or LOLCODE, doesn't matter.
I'd possibly endorse localized versions of Logo and Smalltalk for basic teaching to kids. Everything else is overkill.
That is clear to me. Telling Al Qaeda that you're trolling them is the less clear part.
So, to recap the thread:
1 openoffice (i'd say libreoffice) does office work well
2 but not for complex documents
3 but for complex document office is not good either, you would be better off with latex
4 latex? we need simpler stuff
right, so GOTO 1
I wonder if they called the cap on raspberry orders... wait for it... the raspberry beret.
I think the intelligent design stroke is in making such asteroids STOP hitting the earth.
Jokes aside: an eternal creator can create a world populated with creatures with free will, completely random interactions, no interference from the creator itself, that ends up EXACTLY how the creator wished. Because the creator creates time too, he is not bound by it. I am not saying this world has random interactions, a creator, free will. I am saying that even by our restricted logic, the creator and the nature of creation are completely orthogonal.
Once you damn people realize this simple concept, I hope you start treating the evolution vs intelligent design debate as the one of purple vs. salty.
Remember, the media pushes sterile debates, they can get endless ink out of it if you're naive, they keep our attention off productive debates if you're a conspiracy nut.
> where rational thought breaks down into fantasy
Let's make examples. I'm interested.
When RMS tells Linus "Bitkeeper is a bad idea", he turns out right.
When RMS talks about windows as a virus/spyware, he turns out right, you let your PC be owned in the friggin' TOS.
When he dreams up a world of free software, which was the frigging NORM in the real world of early computers, the dream gets real, albeit for a very limited set of hardware.
RMS is an idealist? of course. But the effects of his position is, practically, useful to return control in the hand of the user. And that is pragmatically good for the user in the long run.
If you want to hear pure unadulterated fantasy, listen to CEOs and politicians. Elop and his "nokia is betting all on winphones", anyone?
And I say all this while deeply disagreeing on him on this issue.
A guy wants to give his intellectual creation only to those who pay? LET HIM, DO NOT COPY THOSE DAMN FILES. YOU ARE NOT STEALING BUT YOU ARE NOT RESPECTING THE OWNER'S WISH.
But also: HE MUST BE PREVENTED FROM MAKING PEOPLE LISTEN TO HIS STUFF FOR FREE. Because that is akin to the first free hit a crack dealer GIVES OUT. IT IS NOT FAIR TO LET ME LISTEN FOR FREE AND THEN ASKING ME TO PAY CAUSE I WANT THE SONG WHO GOT STUCK IN MY HEAD.
And also: WHENEVER HIS CREATION IS FOUND TO BE PARTIALLY UNORIGINAL HE MUST GIVE PEOPLE BACK THE MONEY THEY SPENT ON IT IN THE PROPORTION OF UNORIGINAL VS ORIGINAL CONTENT.
Now, THIS is ideal justice. Not RMS's and especially not MAFIAA's.
Field day for anti vaccine people.
The problem is, they are not wrong.
Even if they usually don't see the problem.
It's not a matter of how many people vaccines have saved.
It's a matter of what is put into EACH vial of vaccine, for what purpose it is administered etc. etc. etc.
In this case, and in countless others, more precaution and testing should be performed. And vaccinations should not be the duct tape that keep the health of the poor chicken good enough, the animal should have good living conditions. No matter if the cost soars, because it simply approaches the real cost.
> and people who "need" a powerful PC are largely professionals
You never had to work with the result of your cheapo but HD video camera, did you?
You'll wish you had an 8 core and ssd after approx 3 minutes.
^ hoc
I didn't RTF* but it's obvious that Bose has prior art on expensive, shiny, thin stuff to show off to people, that has some audio related secondary function. Waaayyy before apple. Probably they were ashamed of patenting the concept as it is. Too bad, they'd have apple by the cojones if they did.
You might want to try tahoe-lafs if you want to share stuff with a fair number of people without giving them default access to the content.
Instead, the poor guy realized that he won't ever gain the notoriety of that other, more religious, scientist, and full of anger shouted:
KHAAAAAAAAAAAN!
Google tools may not have anything, but there are Firefox extensions like "after the deadline". I don't know how functional it is, but that's the right way to address the problem.
Copypasting to word? Even if it were FOSS, it would be terribly inefficient.
> Non-believers are SINNERS.
Everybody is. So what? According to the (unproven of course) NT the Christ says: "nobody gets saved except through me". But no human cannot tell Him whom to save or not, it's HIS prerogative. Mt. 19 -> Jesus looked at them and said, âoeWith man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.â
> Religion means fighting non-believers and taking power FROM them in Allah's/Yahweh's/FSM's name.
Luke 9:5 If people do not welcome you, shake the dust off your feet.
So you must s/welcome/believe/ and s/shake the dust off your feet/overpower them/ to get from the bible to religion as you define it.
If you think it is defined by the acts of people declaring themselves religious, Mt 7:23 says you can't.
I always say atheism because is an acceptable default. Why bother bashing incorrectly "religion"?
And take the FSM out until some hundreds people die for true belief in him like it happens for the monotheistic god and a score of others.
So, when PCs have finally solved the problem of reliably working with standard OS and data (thanks to FOSS) we scrap it all to be more dependent on external providers.
It's not like prices will go up when the cloud becomes the only choice, oh no.
I said "we" but in truth, it's "they", the guys who seek more control over our computing experience (and have been doing so since they started closing the source and making a guy called Stallman have a working printer).
I dunno about living in Afghanistan, but here the population is not scared and didn't decide to be groped at airports. Population is forced to submit to screening at gates.
If a rational debate about security from terrorist attacks on flights had ever been made, it would have concluded that a determined attacker with a bit of equipment can take down whatever civilian flight and escape, without needing to pass through gates. Ergo, both Al Qaeda and the TSA's objectives are likely different from what they proclaim to us retarded masses.
It doesn't follow. The binary might be corrupted before being hashed.
You don't need technical reasons to bash Apple, even if their product were technically impeccable, you have too little control over them.