Yes, you are. You obviously have not tried egroupware. Exchange cannot touch it. It has a bunch of modules that Exchange dreams of having.
It's fast, free in every sense of the word, full-featured. It has built in ACLs for every module allowing a great deal of granularity in what you or your admin chooses to share. It has modules that allow you to group as in a threaded email conversation address book entries, calendar entries, notes, all of which you can delegate and share or not share.
It has a built-in FTP client, IMAP and POP3 email clients, integrates into LDAP environments, forum, project management, knowledge base, polls, and more and it WORKS. Of course, you the admin decide which modules you want to enable for which users.
For those that have not tried it yet, you owe to yourself to do so now before you claim that there isn't a good groupware solution in Linux.
Bullshit. If you read the article, you will see that Microsoft indeed acknowledges that they fund these "think-tanks" just as the tobacco companies had done in the 1980s so that they could tell us how good smoking really was for us.
And I meant after a week where each person devotes an hour in their day to training. There are a few other things I'd have phrased differnently, but most of it should be clear.
We are bound to get a score of people telling us how staying with windows is easier and how it is the past of least resistance. They also said this about the server a few years ago, although they are quieter on that front now.
What they do not understand is that this was a strategic and long-term move for the city of Munich. When you are creating infrastructure, you care about long-term benefits. In my eyes, the city of Munich is making a serious investment to create a future they can control. No doubt, this is a political move, but it is one that highsight will reveal as path-breaking, as in, breaking the path-dependence of Windows.
Finally, I have moved a bunch of small non-profits to Linux, and all these alleged retraining costs are not there, even for the computer challenged. Real computer novices can get to work after an hourly week of training. Those that have used a computer before can do so almost immediately, with the occasional question posted on the site's intranet and quickly answered by yours truly.
Come on, guys, if we are to bring on the Linux desktop, we need to dispell the myth that it is hard to use. Suse 9.1 or Mandrake 10 are a freaking joy to use.
Send the big HD the first time. Make sure the info is sent following a tree structured around ISO library standards for the humanities and sciences.
Then send diffs with the updates on the new dual-layer CDs that can take up to 8.5 GB HDs. The first time, you may need to include a DVD drive -external would be preferable- along with the DVD. They can then copy the information either through a LAN or by using sneakernet and taking the external DVD drive around.
This is bullshit. Blaming the death toll of an intractable civil war on an organization that does human rights monitoring is beyond the pale.
It must feel good to sit behind your keyboard and blame those that are putting their lives on the line so that we get a sense of what goes on nin places like Nepal or Nigeria.
I shouldn't even bother to respond, but you are full of shit.
Stop spewing crap about Mandrake. I look after fifty servers, all of which run Mandrake and they have been super stable.
This will be the end of Linux, the need to deride other distributions. They are all pretty good, each has its ups-and-downs.For me, Mandrake's urpmi is a blessing that neither Red Hat or Suse offers yet, at least not officially as a package that they ship
"When a minor company has a patent on a groundbreaking (or little less) invention, it can be a major pain in the *rse of a big company(with a proper sponsoring for the small one, ok), especially when that small company has no product portfolio to which the big company can assert its patents."
The problem is that this is fairly rare. If you are a small company doing some kind of interesting software development, your product is bound to in some obscure way violate one of the thousand patents that the big guys have.
Besides two wrongs really don't make a write and I am more concerned with the well-being of free software developers, salaried or not, who independently do not probably have the resources to fight a patent-infringement case.
As a writer, I care about copyright infringement. And the mathematicians who understand software fail to understand how anyone can really claim to have "invented" something in software. Written it yet, invented it no.
If this kind of web-neighbor due diligence was carried out more often, we would not see all these spurious software patents being issued.
Why don't we create an industry funded board whose job is to make sure that silly software patents are no longer awarded? Oh wait... The industry only dislikes SOME software patents, while anyone who cares to look will see that all software patents threaten innovation and are largely anti-competitive because they rig the game in favor of big corporations.
Unfortunately, software patents have become the last hurdle that the proprietary world can throw at the free software movement.
Moglen and Lessig are both very persuasive (If you got a bit of free time, read "Free Culture" by the latter) I hope that upon hearing their arguments European Commission will be wise enough to reconsider its position on software patents.
It's about principled leadership. Since Linux was founded to create a better system based on 1) technical merit and 2) the spirit of code sharing of the free software movement, it speaks volumes of a web site's real beliefs that they will take money from the highest bidder.
This is not about the current crop of Linux users. It's about all the future Linux users and managers thinking about Linux who will have some serious cognitive dissonance to deal with. They might as well think that if a Linux site believes that Microsoft has a lower TCO or is a better OS, who am I to question it?
I appreciate that this guy had the courage to stand up and say what was in many people's mind. Hopefully, Newsforge, Slashdot and the whole OSDN network will also get the hint that taking money from Microsoft is not exactly kosher.
I am sure that a lot of people will post to tell us how smart these sites are for taking money from the enemy. That, I believe, is the expected defense.
It's kind of like selling biological weapons to Iraq, standing by while they put them to use against Iran in the 1980s and saying now WMDs are bad, bad, bad... That would never happen. Wait a minute...
And then assuming that they still had them, without any real evidence, against the will of the international community, launching a preemptive war against that country to disarm it, surely THAT would never happen either...
Summary: Kids, the world is full of hypocrites and liars. If you let them get away with lying to you the first time, don't expect things to improve. Eventually, one day, they might say: "I thought you knew were in it just for the money. You mean to tell me that you take any of this shit seriously?"
Linux was built largely by selfless giving of those that dare to dream for a better tomorrow and work to make it happen. Marriages of convenience, with Microsoft or anyone else, will do us no good.
I am very impressed with Mandrake 10 Official. I will not engage in the my distro is better than yours game. Use whatever you want. No distribution is perfect. Do realize that your judgment might be clouded by which distribution you learned linux on.
All I have to say is that Mandrake makes a very secure server and a very easy to use desktop and they do so with a GNU smile on their face.
I will make however a few historical comments:
*Have you tried rpmdrake and used it to create Raid Arrays or LVM volumes? Look up how many years they have had such a tool and compare it to other distributions.
*Research which distro first used CUPs and made it easy to use multi-function devices in Linux?
*Research which distribution has a zeroconf/Rendevous in it for a while
*Have you tried their server wizards, which they have had for years?
*Research urpmi when you get a chance. It is a good as Debian's apt, which is the installer by which all other ought to be measured. And even though apt-for-rpm is now available, it isn't as good as either of the above, not to mention that these have yet to be formally embraced in an officially shipping product by either Novell or Red Hat.
If you can afford to send Mandrake a few bucks, do so.We need more companies like Mandrake around. If anything, it will keep both Red Hat and Suse honest.
Ps: Oh.oh.. That Stallmanite reference will drive all of the anti-RMS cloud out of the closet:)
Would you care to explain what you mean by the term ethnic density? The way that you have that term preceding crime rates makes me a little cautious about what you would do with the data, but I will withhold jumping to conclusions.
Do you mean the racial distribution of the population? If so, why the fuck is this important? And anyway, this kind of info can be gotten easily via standard sociological research with greater accuracy and less expense.
Yes,confidence might help. A bit. If you happen to come across someone who is in serious need for his next fix, all your confidence will do you no good when in broad daylight, he pulls out a gun, puts it to your face and takes whaever you have got.
Stop making it sound as if only all people that get mugged lack confidence. For what is worth, I have never been mugged so far and I have lived and do work in some of the most dangerous neighborhoods in America, currently in Liberty City, Florida.
It helps that I do a ton of community work in these neighborhoods and people watch my back becasue they know me and appreciate my work.
I think there is lots of things that these teenagers could do to gain wider access to the information they desire without attacking the poor souls who work at these cafes.
"Nonviolence is the greatest force at the disposal of mankind. It is mightier than the mightiest weapon of destruction devised by the ingenuity of man."
Mohandas K. Gandhi on nonviolence
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What a sham and what a same it is to describe The Alexis de Tocqueville Institute as being non-partisan.
Not in a hundred years. Read the previous fud that they published about Linux. You particulary want to read the articles by Kenneth P. Brown.
In fact, I see this as nothing but an attempt to divide the Linux community. Linux is not a zero-sum game. It has already proven that we can all win, some may win more than others, but both users and companies are better off because of its existence.
What is all this non-sense about wine being ripped off? Code reuse is the essence of free software.
More developers means more eyes and less bugs. I am glad to see that there will be competition on the supported wine app space. This should keep the crossover-office guys on their toes, right Jeremy?
Mandrake already offers what Novell is now getting around to implement. Look at Mandrake's terminal server, which also does audio and local terminal to floppy file saving through some pretty nifty tricks.
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What part of "You the admin, decides which modules to activate, do you not understand"?
Yes, you are. You obviously have not tried egroupware. Exchange cannot touch it. It has a bunch of modules that Exchange dreams of having.
It's fast, free in every sense of the word, full-featured. It has built in ACLs for every module allowing a great deal of granularity in what you or your admin chooses to share. It has modules that allow you to group as in a threaded email conversation address book entries, calendar entries, notes, all of which you can delegate and share or not share.
It has a built-in FTP client, IMAP and POP3 email clients, integrates into LDAP environments, forum, project management, knowledge base, polls, and more and it WORKS. Of course, you the admin decide which modules you want to enable for which users.
For those that have not tried it yet, you owe to yourself to do so now before you claim that there isn't a good groupware solution in Linux.
Bullshit. If you read the article, you will see that Microsoft indeed acknowledges that they fund these "think-tanks" just as the tobacco companies had done in the 1980s so that they could tell us how good smoking really was for us.
Not highsight, but hindsight....
And I meant after a week where each person devotes an hour in their day to training. There are a few other things I'd have phrased differnently, but most of it should be clear.
We are bound to get a score of people telling us how staying with windows is easier and how it is the past of least resistance. They also said this about the server a few years ago, although they are quieter on that front now.
What they do not understand is that this was a strategic and long-term move for the city of Munich. When you are creating infrastructure, you care about long-term benefits. In my eyes, the city of Munich is making a serious investment to create a future they can control. No doubt, this is a political move, but it is one that highsight will reveal as path-breaking, as in, breaking the path-dependence of Windows.
Finally, I have moved a bunch of small non-profits to Linux, and all these alleged retraining costs are not there, even for the computer challenged. Real computer novices can get to work after an hourly week of training. Those that have used a computer before can do so almost immediately, with the occasional question posted on the site's intranet and quickly answered by yours truly.
Come on, guys, if we are to bring on the Linux desktop, we need to dispell the myth that it is hard to use. Suse 9.1 or Mandrake 10 are a freaking joy to use.
Send the big HD the first time. Make sure the info is sent following a tree structured around ISO library standards for the humanities and sciences.
Then send diffs with the updates on the new dual-layer CDs that can take up to 8.5 GB HDs. The first time, you may need to include a DVD drive -external would be preferable- along with the DVD. They can then copy the information either through a LAN or by using sneakernet and taking the external DVD drive around.
This is bullshit. Blaming the death toll of an intractable civil war on an organization that does human rights monitoring is beyond the pale.
It must feel good to sit behind your keyboard and blame those that are putting their lives on the line so that we get a sense of what goes on nin places like Nepal or Nigeria.
Get a life...
I shouldn't even bother to respond, but you are full of shit.
Stop spewing crap about Mandrake. I look after fifty servers, all of which run Mandrake and they have been super stable.
This will be the end of Linux, the need to deride other distributions. They are all pretty good, each has its ups-and-downs.For me, Mandrake's urpmi is a blessing that neither Red Hat or Suse offers yet, at least not officially as a package that they ship
"When a minor company has a patent on a groundbreaking (or little less) invention, it can be a major pain in the *rse of a big company(with a proper sponsoring for the small one, ok), especially when that small company has no product portfolio to which the big company can assert its patents."
The problem is that this is fairly rare. If you are a small company doing some kind of interesting software development, your product is bound to in some obscure way violate one of the thousand patents that the big guys have.
Besides two wrongs really don't make a write and I am more concerned with the well-being of free software developers, salaried or not, who independently do not probably have the resources to fight a patent-infringement case.
As a writer, I care about copyright infringement. And the mathematicians who understand software fail to understand how anyone can really claim to have "invented" something in software. Written it yet, invented it no.
If this kind of web-neighbor due diligence was carried out more often, we would not see all these spurious software patents being issued.
Why don't we create an industry funded board whose job is to make sure that silly software patents are no longer awarded? Oh wait... The industry only dislikes SOME software patents, while anyone who cares to look will see that all software patents threaten innovation and are largely anti-competitive because they rig the game in favor of big corporations.
Unfortunately, software patents have become the last hurdle that the proprietary world can throw at the free software movement.
Moglen and Lessig are both very persuasive (If you got a bit of free time, read "Free Culture" by the latter) I hope that upon hearing their arguments European Commission will be wise enough to reconsider its position on software patents.
Check out these two articles: This one and this one
If I were Linux, I would sue this fucker for slander. He has gone too far.
It's about principled leadership. Since Linux was founded to create a better system based on 1) technical merit and 2) the spirit of code sharing of the free software movement, it speaks volumes of a web site's real beliefs that they will take money from the highest bidder.
This is not about the current crop of Linux users. It's about all the future Linux users and managers thinking about Linux who will have some serious cognitive dissonance to deal with. They might as well think that if a Linux site believes that Microsoft has a lower TCO or is a better OS, who am I to question it?
I appreciate that this guy had the courage to stand up and say what was in many people's mind. Hopefully, Newsforge, Slashdot and the whole OSDN network will also get the hint that taking money from Microsoft is not exactly kosher.
I am sure that a lot of people will post to tell us how smart these sites are for taking money from the enemy. That, I believe, is the expected defense.
It's kind of like selling biological weapons to Iraq, standing by while they put them to use against Iran in the 1980s and saying now WMDs are bad, bad, bad... That would never happen. Wait a minute...
And then assuming that they still had them, without any real evidence, against the will of the international community, launching a preemptive war against that country to disarm it, surely THAT would never happen either...
Summary: Kids, the world is full of hypocrites and liars. If you let them get away with lying to you the first time, don't expect things to improve. Eventually, one day, they might say: "I thought you knew were in it just for the money. You mean to tell me that you take any of this shit seriously?"
Linux was built largely by selfless giving of those that dare to dream for a better tomorrow and work to make it happen. Marriages of convenience, with Microsoft or anyone else, will do us no good.
I was refering to diskdrake not rpmdrake when I spoke of Raid and LVM above.
I am very impressed with Mandrake 10 Official. I will not engage in the my distro is better than yours game. Use whatever you want. No distribution is perfect. Do realize that your judgment might be clouded by which distribution you learned linux on.
:)
All I have to say is that Mandrake makes a very secure server and a very easy to use desktop and they do so with a GNU smile on their face.
I will make however a few historical comments:
*Have you tried rpmdrake and used it to create Raid Arrays or LVM volumes? Look up how many years they have had such a tool and compare it to other distributions.
*Research which distro first used CUPs and made it easy to use multi-function devices in Linux?
*Research which distribution has a zeroconf/Rendevous in it for a while
*Have you tried their server wizards, which they have had for years?
*Research urpmi when you get a chance. It is a good as Debian's apt, which is the installer by which all other ought to be measured. And even though apt-for-rpm is now available, it isn't as good as either of the above, not to mention that these have yet to be formally embraced in an officially shipping product by either Novell or Red Hat.
If you can afford to send Mandrake a few bucks, do so.We need more companies like Mandrake around. If anything, it will keep both Red Hat and Suse honest.
Ps: Oh.oh.. That Stallmanite reference will drive all of the anti-RMS cloud out of the closet
Would you care to explain what you mean by the term ethnic density? The way that you have that term preceding crime rates makes me a little cautious about what you would do with the data, but I will withhold jumping to conclusions.
Do you mean the racial distribution of the population? If so, why the fuck is this important? And anyway, this kind of info can be gotten easily via standard sociological research with greater accuracy and less expense.
All of this is pure bullshit.
Yes,confidence might help. A bit. If you happen to come across someone who is in serious need for his next fix, all your confidence will do you no good when in broad daylight, he pulls out a gun, puts it to your face and takes whaever you have got.
Stop making it sound as if only all people that get mugged lack confidence. For what is worth, I have never been mugged so far and I have lived and do work in some of the most dangerous neighborhoods in America, currently in Liberty City, Florida.
It helps that I do a ton of community work in these neighborhoods and people watch my back becasue they know me and appreciate my work.
I think there is lots of things that these teenagers could do to gain wider access to the information they desire without attacking the poor souls who work at these cafes.
"Nonviolence is the greatest force at the disposal of mankind. It is mightier than the mightiest weapon of destruction devised by the ingenuity of man."
Mohandas K. Gandhi on nonviolence
What a sham and what a same it is to describe The Alexis de Tocqueville Institute as being non-partisan.
Not in a hundred years. Read the previous fud that they published about Linux. You particulary want to read the articles by Kenneth P. Brown.
In fact, I see this as nothing but an attempt to divide the Linux community. Linux is not a zero-sum game. It has already proven that we can all win, some may win more than others, but both users and companies are better off because of its existence.
What is all this non-sense about wine being ripped off? Code reuse is the essence of free software.
More developers means more eyes and less bugs. I am glad to see that there will be competition on the supported wine app space. This should keep the crossover-office guys on their toes, right Jeremy?
Mandrake already offers what Novell is now getting around to implement. Look at Mandrake's terminal server, which also does audio and local terminal to floppy file saving through some pretty nifty tricks.
Hi Eugenia!
Thanks for confirming everything I said in my post. Once again, there you are at your best, at your most convincing, what was that word again?
Zealot. Wow. I am blown away by the power of your arguments.
It's called schizophrenia and delusion-driven alter casting, a fairly serious condition.
I hope she checks herself in to the nearest clinic.
Are you drunk, crazy or both?
Spain is one of the largest economies in Europe and one of the largest tourist venues in the world.
Apart from this, are you preparing to negate the value of communicating with a whole country for the convenience of not having to delete a few emails?
You must be nuts!
Telefonica is the biggest ISP in Spain. There are others, but Telefonica's servers route a huge portion of Spain's emails, so this is significant.