Re:Where are the differences?
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I have installed Windows, Debian Linux, and Solaris 10 on my ThinkPad. Usually I use Solaris (Now I'm typing on it), I have installed 2 Zones on it, one for my personal web server, the other for My Desktop, in it I have installed many many applications from blastwave.org using pkg-get; The global zone is not used yet, because if there was something wrong with the 2 local zones, I could easily setup a new zone!
I'd like to say Solaris is very, very stable and like very power efficient (comparing with Linux)
But there is lack of perfet media players on Solaris, i.g., I cannot play any rm/rmvb video files, so I have to switch to Linux to play them.
Comparing to Windows, Linux is not of course perfect. If I want to play PC games, then I would reboot to Windows.
Finally, MS has understood that a powerful shell language is necessary for a modern operating system.
For a long time, it has been proud of his UI technologies, and thought the UNIX shells are too complicated to most people. As for the genernal people, it's right indeed; but it's not true for those developers that want to perform some customized tasks through some kind of relatively easy method.
The real problem is, Linux has been attracted more and more developers, it's absolutely dangerours to the Windows future. it must do something to change this situation, as a part of a series of actions according its plan.
IMHO, projects under BSD license make people/companies more comfortable.
I, as well as other colleagues in my company, usually download, study, and customize the projects from Apache, such as Ant, maven, tomcat and so on. we have never concern the license issue, since we all have known projects on Apache are released under it's BSD-like license, anybody can use and change them with or without publishing their work under this license.
Meanwhile, the case when we met GPL was quite different. A few months ago, Company decided to use a open source database for internal project use. Nearly almost of colleagues proposed MySql as the favorite choice. Things were going on well until somebody studied Mysql's so-called dual-license. The folk said to us: we have to pay for it due to its license.
We argued about this issue for a long time, and with no result. Many days later, Manager talked about it in a routine meeting, then he said: "Silver, please make clear the price of MySql , and tell me; to me, if things is not certain, I will have to choose a safe way, that's it."
For Torvalds, it's too hard to decide. Though the both are open source system, even the two
are both some kind of UNIX, what everyone loves most is his/her own child, isn't it?
The Torvalds' original intention is to develop a free desktop OS that can run on cheap x86
boxes as a replacement of MS Windows, "My target is Windows", he said, and hoped that Linux
can always focus on the desktop area.
But things change so fast, as more and more companies involved in, Linux is eventually
completely out of Torvarlds personal control.
The market is cruel, especial in desktop OS area, the giant Microsoft have never given his
enemy any opportunity to breathe. As a pioneer, RedHat was impressed deeply, facing the
bloody facts, it finally gave up the ambition in the desktop area at 2003, and turned to the
server side, where was traditional realm of SUN. comparing to Microsoft, SUN is obvious a
gentlemen, his warm attitude to his opponents has brought so many troubles to himeself.
The South China, where I work is a relatively rich area, the govs here spends much of their budget on IT Infrastructure for years. Officers, from the lowest layer to highest layer are very enthusiastic about IT, especially at Linux -- Because of fearing and hating Microsoft, almost of them advocate Linux.
IBM acts an active role among this for a long time: cooperating extensively with government agencies, supporting ISVs, advertising its idea all places, hosting series of exhibition and training of its products..., and of course, never forgetting selling its hardware, its websphere, its DB2..., but all of them are at high price.
China is poor indeed, people here need good things with low prices, but IBM only wants to provide high priced products. Then Dell comes in and succeeds with its low price policy, Sun comes in now and will succeed with its low price policy too.
Yesterday I could not access/. directly, later I could via a SSL proxy. (though now I can access it again.) I wondered why.
I appreciate greatly that slashdot can say what the Chinese gov. is unhappy to hear. but I worried that if stories like this are a little more, the China gov. would block the/. permanently.
Perhaps it is the greatest victory since the open source community began fighting against Microsoft. Even Linux does not gain so much.
Thinking of things around SCO and Red hat these days, it's an inspiring news indeed.
I have an experience of installing Red Hat 9 on my IBM ThinkPad R40, on
which there is a pre-installed Windows XP. My original plan is that
when its installation is finished, I will format all windows pattions
and release them for Linux due to the limited disk storage (only 15G).
The installation process is very smooth. and the desktop is beautiful
too! The only problem is that the Linux can not recognize the modem device -
neither neat nor kppp can. I need help, so I want to google 'linux
modem', but I can't surf since modem can't work.
How should I do? tell me.
I had to reboot, return to WinXP, and configure the dial-up Internet
Connection in Windows... and connect to Internet..., only took 3
minutes! it's so easy, too easy!
Then I searched resources in Windows, and on the other hand tried to
drive my modem in Linux...It almost spent me 2 days. But there are
still problems -- it's unstable, too slow (2-3 k/s vs. 5.x k/s in
WinXP).
Despite whatever defects, I love Linux still because of its free,
open source, security..., though I have to use WinXP sometimes.
This surprised me. Before I thought that it's a strange phenomenon that there are several companies such as Sang Sung, Motorola... which has developed and shipped their own linux'ed mobile-phones, but none of them are Japan company.
Oh, I see, they use ITRON!
How about if Chinese applied GPL to her space technology ? In the IT industry, if your rivals are too powerful, you should make your products open source, then perhaps you will survive them longer.
I think that the GPL is just the same as "The People's War" invented by Chair Mao.
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I have installed Windows, Debian Linux, and Solaris 10 on my ThinkPad. Usually I use Solaris (Now I'm typing on it), I have installed 2 Zones on it, one for my personal web server, the other for My Desktop, in it I have installed many many applications from blastwave.org using pkg-get; The global zone is not used yet, because if there was something wrong with the 2 local zones, I could easily setup a new zone! I'd like to say Solaris is very, very stable and like very power efficient (comparing with Linux)
But there is lack of perfet media players on Solaris, i.g., I cannot play any rm/rmvb video files, so I have to switch to Linux to play them.
Comparing to Windows, Linux is not of course perfect. If I want to play PC games, then I would reboot to Windows.
For a long time, it has been proud of his UI technologies, and thought the UNIX shells are too complicated to most people. As for the genernal people, it's right indeed; but it's not true for those developers that want to perform some customized tasks through some kind of relatively easy method.
The real problem is, Linux has been attracted more and more developers, it's absolutely dangerours to the Windows future. it must do something to change this situation, as a part of a series of actions according its plan.
IMHO, projects under BSD license make people/companies more comfortable.
I, as well as other colleagues in my company, usually download, study, and customize the projects from Apache, such as Ant, maven, tomcat and so on. we have never concern the license issue, since we all have known projects on Apache are released under it's BSD-like license, anybody can use and change them with or without publishing their work under this license.
Meanwhile, the case when we met GPL was quite different. A few months ago, Company decided to use a open source database for internal project use. Nearly almost of colleagues proposed MySql as the favorite choice. Things were going on well until somebody studied Mysql's so-called dual-license. The folk said to us: we have to pay for it due to its license.
We argued about this issue for a long time, and with no result. Many days later, Manager talked about it in a routine meeting, then he said: "Silver, please make clear the price of MySql , and tell me; to me, if things is not certain, I will have to choose a safe way, that's it."
As an innovation leader, MS has never been successful, but as a follower, it always can kill the leader and take all over the harvest.
For Torvalds, it's too hard to decide. Though the both are open source system, even the two are both some kind of UNIX, what everyone loves most is his/her own child, isn't it? The Torvalds' original intention is to develop a free desktop OS that can run on cheap x86 boxes as a replacement of MS Windows, "My target is Windows", he said, and hoped that Linux can always focus on the desktop area. But things change so fast, as more and more companies involved in, Linux is eventually completely out of Torvarlds personal control. The market is cruel, especial in desktop OS area, the giant Microsoft have never given his enemy any opportunity to breathe. As a pioneer, RedHat was impressed deeply, facing the bloody facts, it finally gave up the ambition in the desktop area at 2003, and turned to the server side, where was traditional realm of SUN. comparing to Microsoft, SUN is obvious a gentlemen, his warm attitude to his opponents has brought so many troubles to himeself.
I think Mozilla is very good and use it always, why should I change to Firefox?
HP did, now Novell did...
My question is: why does IBM refuse to do so?
The South China, where I work is a relatively rich area, the govs here spends much of their budget on IT Infrastructure for years. Officers, from the lowest layer to highest layer are very enthusiastic about IT, especially at Linux -- Because of fearing and hating Microsoft, almost of them advocate Linux.
IBM acts an active role among this for a long time: cooperating extensively with government agencies, supporting ISVs, advertising its idea all places, hosting series of exhibition and training of its products..., and of course, never forgetting selling its hardware, its websphere, its DB2..., but all of them are at high price.
China is poor indeed, people here need good things with low prices, but IBM only wants to provide high priced products. Then Dell comes in and succeeds with its low price policy, Sun comes in now and will succeed with its low price policy too.
The future is bright, though the road will be twist.
Can anybody tell me why?
Yesterday I could not access /. directly, later I could via a SSL proxy. (though now I can access it again.) I wondered why. /. permanently.
I appreciate greatly that slashdot can say what the Chinese gov. is unhappy to hear. but I worried that if stories like this are a little more, the China gov. would block the
Perhaps it is the greatest victory since the open source community began fighting against Microsoft. Even Linux does not gain so much.
Thinking of things around SCO and Red hat these days, it's an inspiring news indeed.
OpenOffice is free, but StarOffice is not.
I have an experience of installing Red Hat 9 on my IBM ThinkPad R40, on which there is a pre-installed Windows XP. My original plan is that when its installation is finished, I will format all windows pattions and release them for Linux due to the limited disk storage (only 15G).
The installation process is very smooth. and the desktop is beautiful too! The only problem is that the Linux can not recognize the modem device - neither neat nor kppp can. I need help, so I want to google 'linux modem', but I can't surf since modem can't work.
How should I do? tell me.
I had to reboot, return to WinXP, and configure the dial-up Internet Connection in Windows... and connect to Internet..., only took 3 minutes! it's so easy, too easy!
Then I searched resources in Windows, and on the other hand tried to drive my modem in Linux...It almost spent me 2 days. But there are still problems -- it's unstable, too slow (2-3 k/s vs. 5.x k/s in WinXP).
Despite whatever defects, I love Linux still because of its free, open source, security..., though I have to use WinXP sometimes.
This surprised me. Before I thought that it's a strange phenomenon that there are several companies such as Sang Sung, Motorola ... which has developed and shipped their own linux'ed mobile-phones, but none of them are Japan company.
Oh, I see, they use ITRON!
How about if Chinese applied GPL to her space technology ? In the IT industry, if your rivals are too powerful, you should make your products open source, then perhaps you will survive them longer. I think that the GPL is just the same as "The People's War" invented by Chair Mao.
But to almost people in China, the fact that the taikonaut is sent to space has nothing to do with them. they only need more job chances, more money.