Oh jesus, not more crazy modding. This really isn't intended to be funny. You are starting to talk about 500W per system, which as I posted above @ 10c per KWH (average in the UK, probabably a lot more in california, and much less in northen regions), you are looking at $37/month to power your computers.
Considering I have 3 computers + a laptop, that is approx $100/month or more.
Let's say your average 'gamer' system uses 500W of power, including monitor.
At 10c per KWh, that is going to be 5c/hour, or $37/month.
How do we power these systems?
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With every computing consuming more and more power, its looking like we will need a wind turbine or solar PV array for anyone to run a decent sized network of computers at home.
Anyone currently doing this? I'm thinking of installing a turbine, but unsure of where to start out.
Compact fluorescent lighting is much, much (3x) more efficient than LED lighting - in terms of lumens per watt. It's something like 26 for CFL and 8 for LED. And about 3 for incandescent - and even lower for really small incandescent bulbs.
The only problem with fluorescent lighting is that it isn't all that compact, still. A lot of my light fittings at home just won't take a fluorescent bulb.
Yes, but imagine a 'space elevator' + huge hydrogen 'tankers'. Imagine there is a 'cloud' of hydrogen gas fairly close to earth.
You could just take the huge hydrogen tankers up to space, build them there, set them off, come back later with 5million 'barrels' of hydrogen, refine it using very large solar panels and compact it, send it back down to earth using the space elevator.
All of which would be very feasible (apart from the cloud of hydrogen) within a few decades - certainly longer that the amount of coal or fissionable uranium left on earth.
I used to be very 'peak oil aware' but then I realized the running out of oil is going to give huge benefits for all of humankind.
A windfarm is [multiple] big steel poles with turbines and big steel blades on top. How is that 'heavy industrial work'? It's much less 'heavy' than building a few houses, for example.
Are you quite stupid? Coal is not petroleum based and we use that more than anything for creating electricity.
We can also take advantage of high-efficiency solar panels (which will be used more if everyone has a much higher electricity bill) on your house - power industries that work 9-5 with your grid connected solar system and use the grid at night when all the real big electricity users aren't. People forget that a lot of electricity is only needed when the sun is out - and solar is perfect for it.
The reason we have two tides is because we have two objects that effect the tides: one - the sun warming up, two - the moon tugging on the earth.
This is also why the tides change with the moons position - it 'desyncs' them, if the moon was perfectly opposite it would cause one tide every 12 hours.
So basically life would change in the oceans but it would most likely recover.
It's very different with computers. A 60 line program can knock out billions worth of systems, which spreads by itself. The obvious real life anology here is a biological virus. That would take years of incredibly precise research and certainly equipment that your average teenager could not get by any means.
With computers, you can copy and paste some exploit code in, get the IP address and subnet of your machine and tell it to start copying itself. I'm sure that he didn't really think of the consequences while playing with it on his home network... and then it might of hit a machine connected via dialup... and then you are in the shit. Millions of computers down.
Also, you are forgetting the only reason he probably did this was sheer bordem. As another person posted, this just makes you wonder if our education system is totally failing and missing the point, allowing people with photographic memories to stroll through exams while those who have much more real world applicable skills fail, and therefore have very little future.
While you are joking, having a very well versed person on technology issues would be very good for the IT sector.
Think of the money that would get allocated to IT projects (not all Microsoft) and think of the change of emphasis to education instead of military might.
Most of the components inside phones are highly, highly standardized, and really there is very little difference between a different PCB layout and case between phones nowadays.
I mean when you can get 2Megapixel CMOS cameras for mobile phone's for $9 for 1000 (they are just starting to come into the market now apparently - within a few months the market will be flooded with them), you've got to wonder if anything could be sacrificed.
The only thing I can think of is colour display and camera, which are stupidly cheap nowadays.
It's just like buying a PC nowadays, I can't find CPUs slower than the Duron 1600 anymore, and it's becoming increasinly difficult to actually source durons whatsoever.
I think you have a real problem with cooling there.
I have a XP2500 and it's constant at 40*C in the UK, where obviously it's not very hot but not as cold as Iceland;). I'm using the worst and cheapest cooler I could find and it runs great.
Check that their is some thermal paste, because sometimes it dries up if you have a heatwave.
You can burn them at 32x and even including write in and write out times it will be quicker than copying 1.4MB of files to a floppy. Just my 2 cents.
Not only that you can pick up 52x32x52x CDRW for $15-$25. I don't see why floppies are useful whatsoever when a floppy drive costs $10 and requires yet another ribbon cable inside your computer, when you could be using a CDRW off your existing IDE channel or SATA.
That's all well and good, but not everyone has a 700KB/sec download speed. Most people have at max 300KB and a lot of people have crapola speeds of 120KB or less (!). This causes a serious headache when I can get a 1 CD xvid rip done in an hour, or a 2cd xvid rip done in two or so.
Maybe because your average PC has many more real heat creating components? Such as a full size, full speed optical drive(s), multiple HDDs (some running at 10k RPM), a graphics card that can eat 60-100W up and to add to all that a Power supply that can deal with components being added?
I'm sure you could do the exact same with a PC, but most people prefer upgradability over all in one form factor and 'loudness'. I mean, Dell's SFF workstations are purely passively cooled apart from a very large, slow running fan that comes on when you do something that requires a lot of CPU/GPU power. I'm sure the iMac will get very noisy when all of it's fans have to run at full speed, too.
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I don't know where you got your figures from, because my 19" CRT uses 110W, but a combarable (ie: running @ 1600x1200) LCD would use more than 60W. Not a massive saving and I certainly expected more in terms of lower power consumption.
Not only that, I really can't stand fluorescent bulbs. All the ones I have take around 5 minutes to put out full power output and even when it does it seems very weak compared to a incandescent light bulb. YMMV.
Not only that, it's stupid really to critize homes for using the 'wrong type' of light bulbs when heat wastage is a far more pressing concern. In the UK the government will subsidise you to get cavity wall insulation, which has ment a huge increase in the number of homes getting it done and making residental gas usage drop by over 15%.
However, you are also forgetting one heavy industrial plant can take up the same amount of power as 30-100k homes.
For example, Aluminium refeneries which require electrolsys need about 250MW. Compare that to a 100W light bulb and you see what I mean.
Do you honestly think that they are purposefully stopping you using a cable modem and cutting off revenue?! You sir, are insane if you think that.
Guess what - the cable system IS antiquated! If you would see the shit they laid in the 80s, you'd understand, and not only that it is exceedingly expensive (I know in the UK the avg cost of replacing cable is around $1000/10 feet, but I understand the US doesn't require it to be buried - so it's going to cost less there).
The reason they can roll FTTH in Japan is because of the fact that most people live in very highley densely populated apartment buildings and their is companies who are willing to spend billions of dollars to implement it, which could turn out to be a huge waste of money. US companies generally play it safe, especially with the current economic and 'homeland security' policies.
This always gets me. People love to see cops on the street, even though they are not doing anything apart from 'morale building'.
Would you prefer the officer to be walking the streets, instead of doing a sting operation on a herion dealer that has killed 20 or 50 people, ruined an area and caused thousands of burglaries? I know what I'd prefer.
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Oh jesus, not more crazy modding. This really isn't intended to be funny. You are starting to talk about 500W per system, which as I posted above @ 10c per KWH (average in the UK, probabably a lot more in california, and much less in northen regions), you are looking at $37/month to power your computers.
Considering I have 3 computers + a laptop, that is approx $100/month or more.
Yes, actually it is.
Let's say your average 'gamer' system uses 500W of power, including monitor.
At 10c per KWh, that is going to be 5c/hour, or $37/month.
With every computing consuming more and more power, its looking like we will need a wind turbine or solar PV array for anyone to run a decent sized network of computers at home.
Anyone currently doing this? I'm thinking of installing a turbine, but unsure of where to start out.
Compact fluorescent lighting is much, much (3x) more efficient than LED lighting - in terms of lumens per watt. It's something like 26 for CFL and 8 for LED. And about 3 for incandescent - and even lower for really small incandescent bulbs.
The only problem with fluorescent lighting is that it isn't all that compact, still. A lot of my light fittings at home just won't take a fluorescent bulb.
Your average ship would produce many thousands times more energy, steel and smog belching machinery.
Yes, but imagine a 'space elevator' + huge hydrogen 'tankers'. Imagine there is a 'cloud' of hydrogen gas fairly close to earth.
You could just take the huge hydrogen tankers up to space, build them there, set them off, come back later with 5million 'barrels' of hydrogen, refine it using very large solar panels and compact it, send it back down to earth using the space elevator.
All of which would be very feasible (apart from the cloud of hydrogen) within a few decades - certainly longer that the amount of coal or fissionable uranium left on earth.
I used to be very 'peak oil aware' but then I realized the running out of oil is going to give huge benefits for all of humankind.
A windfarm is [multiple] big steel poles with turbines and big steel blades on top. How is that 'heavy industrial work'? It's much less 'heavy' than building a few houses, for example.
Are you quite stupid? Coal is not petroleum based and we use that more than anything for creating electricity.
We can also take advantage of high-efficiency solar panels (which will be used more if everyone has a much higher electricity bill) on your house - power industries that work 9-5 with your grid connected solar system and use the grid at night when all the real big electricity users aren't. People forget that a lot of electricity is only needed when the sun is out - and solar is perfect for it.
Indeed.
The reason we have two tides is because we have two objects that effect the tides: one - the sun warming up, two - the moon tugging on the earth.
This is also why the tides change with the moons position - it 'desyncs' them, if the moon was perfectly opposite it would cause one tide every 12 hours.
So basically life would change in the oceans but it would most likely recover.
It's very different with computers. A 60 line program can knock out billions worth of systems, which spreads by itself. The obvious real life anology here is a biological virus. That would take years of incredibly precise research and certainly equipment that your average teenager could not get by any means.
With computers, you can copy and paste some exploit code in, get the IP address and subnet of your machine and tell it to start copying itself. I'm sure that he didn't really think of the consequences while playing with it on his home network... and then it might of hit a machine connected via dialup... and then you are in the shit. Millions of computers down.
Also, you are forgetting the only reason he probably did this was sheer bordem. As another person posted, this just makes you wonder if our education system is totally failing and missing the point, allowing people with photographic memories to stroll through exams while those who have much more real world applicable skills fail, and therefore have very little future.
But seriously - isn't the point of science to be able to do amazingly cool stuff and find out whatever we need?
Having 2x telescopes would be much better than one.
While you are joking, having a very well versed person on technology issues would be very good for the IT sector.
Think of the money that would get allocated to IT projects (not all Microsoft) and think of the change of emphasis to education instead of military might.
IMO, at least, it seems like a good idea.
Most of the components inside phones are highly, highly standardized, and really there is very little difference between a different PCB layout and case between phones nowadays.
I mean when you can get 2Megapixel CMOS cameras for mobile phone's for $9 for 1000 (they are just starting to come into the market now apparently - within a few months the market will be flooded with them), you've got to wonder if anything could be sacrificed.
The only thing I can think of is colour display and camera, which are stupidly cheap nowadays.
It's just like buying a PC nowadays, I can't find CPUs slower than the Duron 1600 anymore, and it's becoming increasinly difficult to actually source durons whatsoever.
I think you have a real problem with cooling there.
;). I'm using the worst and cheapest cooler I could find and it runs great.
I have a XP2500 and it's constant at 40*C in the UK, where obviously it's not very hot but not as cold as Iceland
Check that their is some thermal paste, because sometimes it dries up if you have a heatwave.
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Ever heard of CDRWs?
You can burn them at 32x and even including write in and write out times it will be quicker than copying 1.4MB of files to a floppy. Just my 2 cents.
Not only that you can pick up 52x32x52x CDRW for $15-$25. I don't see why floppies are useful whatsoever when a floppy drive costs $10 and requires yet another ribbon cable inside your computer, when you could be using a CDRW off your existing IDE channel or SATA.
That's all well and good, but not everyone has a 700KB/sec download speed. Most people have at max 300KB and a lot of people have crapola speeds of 120KB or less (!). This causes a serious headache when I can get a 1 CD xvid rip done in an hour, or a 2cd xvid rip done in two or so.
Maybe:
a) They haven't thought of that. I'm sure I'd have problems thinking everything through if I'd just worked out a way to get as much money as I want.
b) Maybe they have problems rewriting the database without being caught (or maybe the records get locked apart from being deleted?)
We don't even know if they have access to the database. They could be something far more sinister behind it.
What is it then? Because if it doesn't game, do graphics or do Motion, then a $299 walmart box can do nearly everything it can do. Plus it runs Linux.
Maybe because your average PC has many more real heat creating components? Such as a full size, full speed optical drive(s), multiple HDDs (some running at 10k RPM), a graphics card that can eat 60-100W up and to add to all that a Power supply that can deal with components being added?
I'm sure you could do the exact same with a PC, but most people prefer upgradability over all in one form factor and 'loudness'. I mean, Dell's SFF workstations are purely passively cooled apart from a very large, slow running fan that comes on when you do something that requires a lot of CPU/GPU power. I'm sure the iMac will get very noisy when all of it's fans have to run at full speed, too.
I don't know where you got your figures from, because my 19" CRT uses 110W, but a combarable (ie: running @ 1600x1200) LCD would use more than 60W. Not a massive saving and I certainly expected more in terms of lower power consumption.
Not only that, I really can't stand fluorescent bulbs. All the ones I have take around 5 minutes to put out full power output and even when it does it seems very weak compared to a incandescent light bulb. YMMV.
Not only that, it's stupid really to critize homes for using the 'wrong type' of light bulbs when heat wastage is a far more pressing concern. In the UK the government will subsidise you to get cavity wall insulation, which has ment a huge increase in the number of homes getting it done and making residental gas usage drop by over 15%.
However, you are also forgetting one heavy industrial plant can take up the same amount of power as 30-100k homes.
For example, Aluminium refeneries which require electrolsys need about 250MW. Compare that to a 100W light bulb and you see what I mean.
What the hell are you on about?!
Do you honestly think that they are purposefully stopping you using a cable modem and cutting off revenue?! You sir, are insane if you think that.
Guess what - the cable system IS antiquated! If you would see the shit they laid in the 80s, you'd understand, and not only that it is exceedingly expensive (I know in the UK the avg cost of replacing cable is around $1000/10 feet, but I understand the US doesn't require it to be buried - so it's going to cost less there).
The reason they can roll FTTH in Japan is because of the fact that most people live in very highley densely populated apartment buildings and their is companies who are willing to spend billions of dollars to implement it, which could turn out to be a huge waste of money. US companies generally play it safe, especially with the current economic and 'homeland security' policies.
What, you mean the last released version?
This always gets me. People love to see cops on the street, even though they are not doing anything apart from 'morale building'.
Would you prefer the officer to be walking the streets, instead of doing a sting operation on a herion dealer that has killed 20 or 50 people, ruined an area and caused thousands of burglaries? I know what I'd prefer.