I find it weird that the open source community cries foul when they see Microsoft funded studies on www.microsoft.com/getthefacts but yet, people balk when Microsoft comes and says "Hey..you dont trust us? Fine - go do your own studies."
Sorry - not true. Windows Genuine Advantage has nothing to do with security patches. All users will get security patches, without going through any checks
Also because no one on the web has reported it yet. No news organization, no blog, nothing. And this is not the sort of things ZDNet or CNET would keep silent about especially since Microsoft and browsers are involved.
I have a WinXP machine with Firefox set as the default browser - and I didn't see any such effect. I have friends who use Firefox on Win2k and no one has reported such a problem to me yet.
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Is there any proof of this? Windows Update doesn't touch your browser settings usually. And if this had happened, there would have been more than a few reports of this.
Please substantiate rather than spewing FUD.
Genuine advantage is required only for non-security related updates. Security updates will keep streaming to your computer irrespective of Windows Genuine Advantage
Perhaps someone should tell the Slashdot crowd, Asa, Eric and other prominent folks in the OSS world that when they refer to Microsoft as 'evil', 'M$' or Windoze, they aren't doing anybody any favours either.
And don't talk about Microsoft spreading FUD without looking at the number of Linux-related folks saying "Firefox/Apache is more secure" without understanding
(a) What security actually is
(b) What the track record for Firefox and IE or Apache 2 and IIS 6 is in recent times.
Actually, I see the exact reverse - at most places, it has 2x the details level that Google has. For example, Google's headquarters at Mountain View is shown at much higher detail. See
http://blogs.msdn.com/sriram/archive/2005/07/24/44 2610.aspx for more
No R&D? Ever heard of research.microsoft.com? Or the fact that they have the second largest research budget in the world (behind a pharmaceutical company)
Sorry - that's FUD. Mozilla knew the vulnerability long back but made the Bugzilla page secret. They released a fix a week after widespread hue and cry. This is not too dissimilair from Microsoft breaking its "patch Tuesday" policy for a critical fix.
For god's sake people, do some reading before posting. Windows XP Starter Edition is the stripped down, low-cost XP sold in Thailand and Brazil. It is *not* the one sold without media player due to EU regulations
Err..RTFA. Richard Grimes says the same thing - that this test doesn't prove anything. It is meant as a little bit of fun as well as getting people to have a little more faith in IIS as a secure platform.
Almost everyone on Slashdot expects the server to be hacked in the first 10 minutes. Now, if that doesn't happen for a month, a lot of the IIS sux0rz comments will disappear.
Bill Gates never said this.He even talked about this quote during the WInHEC conference. He said that he wanted to set the record straight about him and that quote. He also played safe by saying that someday, someone would want more than 2^64 of accessible memory
I'm the guy who posted the story to Slashdot. One thing I noticed and which got edited out was that - nowhere in the post, does Dave Massy criticize Firefox itself. Though it is his own personal blog (it is not the IE team blog), he never mentions anything about Firefox. On the other hand, we have various people associated with Firefox badmouthing IE every chance they get.
I'm sure Dave could have pointed out with glee Firefox recent security problems (IDN, GIF handling ) or update-rollout problems. Can you imagine a Firefox dev not jumping on similar problems with IE and making fun of them?
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I find it weird that the open source community cries foul when they see Microsoft funded studies on www.microsoft.com/getthefacts but yet, people balk when Microsoft comes and says "Hey..you dont trust us? Fine - go do your own studies."
Sorry - not true. Windows Genuine Advantage has nothing to do with security patches. All users will get security patches, without going through any checks
And here's the official press release http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2005/aug0 5/08-17EuropeNA360PricePR.mspx
Also because no one on the web has reported it yet. No news organization, no blog, nothing. And this is not the sort of things ZDNet or CNET would keep silent about especially since Microsoft and browsers are involved.
I have a WinXP machine with Firefox set as the default browser - and I didn't see any such effect. I have friends who use Firefox on Win2k and no one has reported such a problem to me yet.
Umm..that doesn't explain the *drop* in market share
Mod parent down Is there any proof of this? Windows Update doesn't touch your browser settings usually. And if this had happened, there would have been more than a few reports of this. Please substantiate rather than spewing FUD.
Genuine advantage is required only for non-security related updates. Security updates will keep streaming to your computer irrespective of Windows Genuine Advantage
Perhaps someone should tell the Slashdot crowd, Asa, Eric and other prominent folks in the OSS world that when they refer to Microsoft as 'evil', 'M$' or Windoze, they aren't doing anybody any favours either. And don't talk about Microsoft spreading FUD without looking at the number of Linux-related folks saying "Firefox/Apache is more secure" without understanding (a) What security actually is (b) What the track record for Firefox and IE or Apache 2 and IIS 6 is in recent times.
Taking a look at your sig - so does iTunes give you DRM free music then?
And where did you hear that Microsoft worries about people talking about podcasting? You obviously haven't read http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2005/07/ 18/439940.aspx
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/07/29/444957 .aspx
The IE team just responded here
Actually, I see the exact reverse - at most places, it has 2x the details level that Google has. For example, Google's headquarters at Mountain View is shown at much higher detail. See http://blogs.msdn.com/sriram/archive/2005/07/24/44 2610.aspx for more
Weird - the advisory doesn't mention SP2 specifically.Also, it has 'to be determined' next to Windows 2003.
No R&D? Ever heard of research.microsoft.com? Or the fact that they have the second largest research budget in the world (behind a pharmaceutical company)
The idea is that the XBox hooks up to your Windows Media Center PC which acts as a PVR
It *is* backwards compatible. Part of the show talked about being able to download maps for Halo 2
Sorry - that's FUD. Mozilla knew the vulnerability long back but made the Bugzilla page secret. They released a fix a week after widespread hue and cry. This is not too dissimilair from Microsoft breaking its "patch Tuesday" policy for a critical fix.
For god's sake people, do some reading before posting. Windows XP Starter Edition is the stripped down, low-cost XP sold in Thailand and Brazil. It is *not* the one sold without media player due to EU regulations
Of course when Microsoft does the same thing, they're called evil. And they're criticized when they let you track all reported vulnerabilities
Err..RTFA. Richard Grimes says the same thing - that this test doesn't prove anything. It is meant as a little bit of fun as well as getting people to have a little more faith in IIS as a secure platform.
Almost everyone on Slashdot expects the server to be hacked in the first 10 minutes. Now, if that doesn't happen for a month, a lot of the IIS sux0rz comments will disappear.
Bill Gates never said this.He even talked about this quote during the WInHEC conference. He said that he wanted to set the record straight about him and that quote. He also played safe by saying that someday, someone would want more than 2^64 of accessible memory
No he didn't say that. See http://dotnetjunkies.com/WebLog/sriram/archive/200 5/04/07/62728.aspx
I'm the guy who posted the story to Slashdot. One thing I noticed and which got edited out was that - nowhere in the post, does Dave Massy criticize Firefox itself. Though it is his own personal blog (it is not the IE team blog), he never mentions anything about Firefox. On the other hand, we have various people associated with Firefox badmouthing IE every chance they get.
I'm sure Dave could have pointed out with glee Firefox recent security problems (IDN, GIF handling ) or update-rollout problems. Can you imagine a Firefox dev not jumping on similar problems with IE and making fun of them?
You're wrong. Windows XP Embedded fits in 2-3 mb. And WinCE can be squeezed into a few kb