I've been looking into switching from Cingular just to get a better phone. Mine's a piece of crap, and I don't want to pay. No, I don't really need all the fancy functions of these newer phones, but if they come with it I won't refuse them. I want something small and with a non-tiny screen.
AT&T seems to be the most generous in terms of phones, of providers I've looked at so far... but all the customers I know absolutely hate the coverage they get - I live in Boston - and there seems to be none at all in my hometown, Ithaca, NY. I'll be on a national plan so I can move between the two places without hassle, as I do now.
My question is this: is it now, or will it be soon, safe to move to AT&T, or will they fully merge into Cingular, or what? I just want a decent phone guys, help me out!;)
Panther doesn't have an "application menu". Even if I've somehow missed one, it's certainly not categorized like KDE's. Yeah that's right, I don't have to manually fuck around with aliases just to have easy access to my applications.
You're just another typical Apple user that adapts to what they decide you should have as a UI - Exposé is a great feature, but it has exactly nothing to do with tabbed finder windows.
How old are you? 12? Do you always insult people in the middle of a conversation?
I guess people like to jab at Debian because we maintain something that's actually worthy of the title "Stable," but I myself use sid and enjoy a very high rate of updates. I'm currently running KDE 3.2.2 for example right now. What's that, you say, it hasn't been released? Well, not to you maybe, but Debian's got it.
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Excuse me?
kernel-image-2.6-386 - Linux kernel image for version 2.6 on 386.
kernel-image-2.6-686 - Linux kernel image for version 2.6 on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV.
kernel-image-2.6-686-smp - Linux kernel image for version 2.6 on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP.
kernel-image-2.6-k7 - Linux kernel image for version 2.6 on AMD K7.
kernel-image-2.6-k7-smp - Linux kernel image for version 2.6 on AMD K7 SMP.
kernel-image-2.6.3-1-386 - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.3 on 386.
kernel-image-2.6.3-1-686 - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.3 on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV.
kernel-image-2.6.3-1-686-smp - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.3 on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP.
kernel-image-2.6.3-1-k7 - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.3 on AMD K7.
kernel-image-2.6.3-1-k7-smp - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.3 on AMD K7 SMP.
kernel-image-2.6.4-1-386 - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.4 on 386.
kernel-image-2.6.4-1-686 - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.4 on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV.
kernel-image-2.6.4-1-686-smp - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.4 on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP.
kernel-image-2.6.4-1-k7 - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.4 on AMD K7.
kernel-image-2.6.4-1-k7-smp - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.4 on AMD K7 SMP. kernel-image-2.6.5-1-386 - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.5 on 386.
kernel-image-2.6.5-1-686 - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.5 on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV.
kernel-image-2.6.5-1-686-smp - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.5 on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP.
kernel-image-2.6.5-1-k7 - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.5 on AMD K7.
kernel-image-2.6.5-1-k7-smp - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.5 on AMD K7 SMP.
kernel-tree-2.6.3 - Linux kernel tree for building prepackaged Debian kernel images
kernel-tree-2.6.4 - Linux kernel tree for building prepackaged Debian kernel images kernel-tree-2.6.5 - Linux kernel tree for building prepackaged Debian kernel images
kernel-image-2.6.4 - Linux kernel binary image for version 2.6.4.
kernel-image-2.6.1 - Linux kernel binary image for version 2.6.1.
kernel-image-2.6.3 - Linux kernel binary image for version 2.6.3.
I use KDE as well. For the first time in years I haven't made even a minor change to my UI in months. OS X is nice... but certain things about it really bug the hell out of me. Examples: the new finder, the dock, the disappearance of tabby finder windows, the fact that I have to hunt through "Macintosh HD" to find any app...
I was just discussing this in my assembly language class today... I'm a Computer Engineering Technology major and I swear it's looking worse and worse as the semesters tick by. It's *not* just because of this outsourcing crap either. I don't know what to do... try to tough it out, go straight to graduate school or just leave the country.
I don't care if you're using 2048-bit encryption to purchase that new GeForce - if SuperDealUpgradeStore so much as leaves the wrong port open on the firewall or uses a simple password and doesn't check logs, you're hosed.
As the saying goes: "Security is a process, NOT a product."
Any company that has a hyperlink marked "Investor Information" above-the-fold (shown without a need to scroll down on a typical 800x600 setup) is automatically a bit suspect.
Yeah, what did you mean by "suspect?" Are EMC or IBM guilty of producing vaporware? Is NewsCorp not far-reaching enough for you? Granted, not all of these are the most ethical companies in the world... but just an example.
Mutt seems to be the geek favorite of mail clients. I like the sound of its flexibility, except for the fact that it doesn't support the mouse. (Mutt users cry foul at this point) but aren't Vim and Emacs doing fine at this point with mouse support? If you run Emacs from console, you get normal Emacs. If you run it from an xterm, you get XEmacs. Can we not do the same thing with Mutt?
If it's already been done, then after you flame me, tell me where to look for it;)
I've had mine for well over a year. In fact, I've even had time to break it, send it back, and have them ship me a new one gratis. I love it... it's a bit heavy but works quite well, and has a big Li-Ion battery that I charge every other night. I also have the mini keyboard, which kicks ass. Remind me to get a separate number pad though, for those rare times I need one. The multimedia buttons work under Linux too, just use $YOUR_FAVORITE_MM_KEY_APP... I use Lineak and KLineakConfig.
monolithic? okaaaay... if the kernel wasn't one big source tree, it wouldn't be the same linux running on '86 as on PPC... are you suggesting we fork linux? i'm gonna have to go ahead and disagree with you, mmmkaaay? I agree with your "big distro" argument somewhat... maybe the install disc should be pretty barren but have supporting discs with different tasks in mind. or something. as for one-size-fits-all kernels, i'd rather have them than different Debian installers for each permutation of kernel config options. if you really care about optimization, it's not all that difficult to rebuild your kernel, especially with the new, slicker xconfig. hell, i hear libranet can help you recompile without touching an xterm. let's get things like that into Debian:)
My parents live in the boondocks. Their house has been robbed twice. The first time, the baddies entered through an unlocked window and stole a stereo, $1000 emergency cash, and my dad's wedding ring, which was given to him my my mother's grandmother. He was a freelance carpenter at the time, so he didn't wear it at work. That sucked a lot.
The second time, someone broke into the garage, half of which is used as a wood shop. They stole all his tools. That time, however, his insurance bought him a full set of brand-spankin new tools. Oh yeah, and the baddies didn't bother to take any of the really old (but really good) hammers or angle cutters. That theft actually worked out for the better.
Agreed, you've got to lock everything up. But sometimes... getting robbed is good. Go figure.
As an ethical vegetarian and Free Software user, upon reading the first two sentences of your post, expected to be thoroughly offended within the next three paragraphs. See, I'm somewhat used to being ridiculed for taking a stand on my beliefs.
Your analogy actually was flawless and didn't piss me off. I suspect it wouldn't even bother a carnivorous Microsoft executive, either! Thanks. I'm going to use that one.
I'm "smoking something" right now, and i promise you if I had any mod points, I'd find a way to use them all to brand that fool Overrated. Hell, Enron fraudulently inflated stock prices, and the execs bailed out in time to make tens of millions, leaving former employees jobless and stripped of their life savings. Thousands of lives totally fucked. Yeah, every company should do shit like that.
... Is an ignorant statement. Some authors decide to release their code under a certain license, and people bitch. If ASL doesn't play nice with the GPL, that is unfortunate... and we might have to look at something else. Then again, Apache 1.x is working great as far as I can tell. But these license zealots whining about how the "BSD/ASL/XFree/GPL sucks" are really just ignorant. If I write some code, and don't want it to be sucked up by a profit-making corporation without my consent, and without recieving any credit, that's my own fucking business! By the same token, if I want my code to be able to be used by whomever wants it, again, that's my own fucking business!
1) The interpretation of the GPL license is not just the opinions of individuals in the FSF, it is designed to be rigorously defendable in a court of law.
(2) Rather than look at opinions about compatibility, people should look at the ASF2.0 and GPL licenses to see if they really are compatible.
(2) If you look at the two licenses, they really are compatible.
And you asked it like a serious fucking jackass. Do you want your Money back?
I'll answer your question, though. Konqueror isn't perfect, but neither is the rest of KDE. I use Debian/KDE exclusively, and while I love the new developments in 3.2, I've noticed that there are almost as many bugs in the "stable" release as there were when I was tracking CVS HEAD. I'm not sure why that is. I've talked about it with the Debian maintainers for KDE quite a bit, and some of them think that a feature freeze period before releases may help. As it stands now, new features are allowed into KDE right up until the release. This obviously goes against most other serious OSS development project methods (cases in point: GNOME and Linux itself). In the short run though, I'm told that by KDE 3.2.1 things will be a lot less buggy overall.
Anyway, Konqueror is more stable now than it has been. It also renders much better, thanks in part to Apple. I still get random crashes every once in a while, but it works a hell of a lot better than IE6 with the latest updates on my girlfriend's XP box.
Maybe I'm paranoid, or maybe I just read an article about certain magnetic fields damaging brain cell DNA. I don't remember though, because I just shaved with an electric razor. Damnit. Seriously, can we just get over this and invest in some Fiber to the Curb (FFTC) or Fiber to the Home (FTTH)?
I'm interested in what the ratio is between politicians who are fully corrupt and know what they're doing with this, and those who are simply along for the ride (and due for a swing or three from the old cluebat). Usually the two groups get lumped together. Harassing the former won't help; the latter may actually lend you an ear. How do we tell who's who? Look at voting records and campaign contributions? Who's the ugliest (which side would that make them on...)?
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I just installed Half-Life (with Steam) and UT2004 on my Debian box with WineX. Go check it out.
I don't think this is fully off-topic.
I've been looking into switching from Cingular just to get a better phone. Mine's a piece of crap, and I don't want to pay. No, I don't really need all the fancy functions of these newer phones, but if they come with it I won't refuse them. I want something small and with a non-tiny screen.
AT&T seems to be the most generous in terms of phones, of providers I've looked at so far... but all the customers I know absolutely hate the coverage they get - I live in Boston - and there seems to be none at all in my hometown, Ithaca, NY. I'll be on a national plan so I can move between the two places without hassle, as I do now.
My question is this: is it now, or will it be soon, safe to move to AT&T, or will they fully merge into Cingular, or what? I just want a decent phone guys, help me out! ;)
OK, proceed to mod me down.
Kids more Science- and Math-friendly, you insensitive clod! ... ?
Is this new? I've had 'shuffle' on every single player I've owned since CDs! Wired, I'm ashamed.
Uh. What?
Panther doesn't have an "application menu". Even if I've somehow missed one, it's certainly not categorized like KDE's. Yeah that's right, I don't have to manually fuck around with aliases just to have easy access to my applications.
You're just another typical Apple user that adapts to what they decide you should have as a UI - Exposé is a great feature, but it has exactly nothing to do with tabbed finder windows.
How old are you? 12? Do you always insult people in the middle of a conversation?
I guess people like to jab at Debian because we maintain something that's actually worthy of the title "Stable," but I myself use sid and enjoy a very high rate of updates. I'm currently running KDE 3.2.2 for example right now. What's that, you say, it hasn't been released? Well, not to you maybe, but Debian's got it.
Excuse me?
kernel-image-2.6-386 - Linux kernel image for version 2.6 on 386.kernel-image-2.6-686 - Linux kernel image for version 2.6 on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV.
kernel-image-2.6-686-smp - Linux kernel image for version 2.6 on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP.
kernel-image-2.6-k7 - Linux kernel image for version 2.6 on AMD K7.
kernel-image-2.6-k7-smp - Linux kernel image for version 2.6 on AMD K7 SMP.
kernel-image-2.6.3-1-386 - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.3 on 386.
kernel-image-2.6.3-1-686 - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.3 on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV.
kernel-image-2.6.3-1-686-smp - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.3 on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP. kernel-image-2.6.3-1-k7 - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.3 on AMD K7.
kernel-image-2.6.3-1-k7-smp - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.3 on AMD K7 SMP.
kernel-image-2.6.4-1-386 - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.4 on 386.
kernel-image-2.6.4-1-686 - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.4 on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV.
kernel-image-2.6.4-1-686-smp - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.4 on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP.
kernel-image-2.6.4-1-k7 - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.4 on AMD K7.
kernel-image-2.6.4-1-k7-smp - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.4 on AMD K7 SMP.
kernel-image-2.6.5-1-386 - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.5 on 386.
kernel-image-2.6.5-1-686 - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.5 on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV.
kernel-image-2.6.5-1-686-smp - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.5 on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP.
kernel-image-2.6.5-1-k7 - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.5 on AMD K7.
kernel-image-2.6.5-1-k7-smp - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.5 on AMD K7 SMP.
kernel-tree-2.6.3 - Linux kernel tree for building prepackaged Debian kernel images
kernel-tree-2.6.4 - Linux kernel tree for building prepackaged Debian kernel images
kernel-tree-2.6.5 - Linux kernel tree for building prepackaged Debian kernel images
kernel-image-2.6.4 - Linux kernel binary image for version 2.6.4.
kernel-image-2.6.1 - Linux kernel binary image for version 2.6.1.
kernel-image-2.6.3 - Linux kernel binary image for version 2.6.3.
Can I shake your hand? That was a killer post. =D
I use KDE as well. For the first time in years I haven't made even a minor change to my UI in months. OS X is nice... but certain things about it really bug the hell out of me. Examples: the new finder, the dock, the disappearance of tabby finder windows, the fact that I have to hunt through "Macintosh HD" to find any app...
To each his own.
I was just discussing this in my assembly language class today... I'm a Computer Engineering Technology major and I swear it's looking worse and worse as the semesters tick by. It's *not* just because of this outsourcing crap either. I don't know what to do... try to tough it out, go straight to graduate school or just leave the country.
When they have some reggae, I'm so in.
Which is what, ten a year? I've never seen a Samsung box, and thanks to this, I probably never will. Fools.
I don't care if you're using 2048-bit encryption to purchase that new GeForce - if SuperDealUpgradeStore so much as leaves the wrong port open on the firewall or uses a simple password and doesn't check logs, you're hosed.
As the saying goes: "Security is a process, NOT a product."
Yeah, what did you mean by "suspect?" Are EMC or IBM guilty of producing vaporware? Is NewsCorp not far-reaching enough for you? Granted, not all of these are the most ethical companies in the world... but just an example.
Mutt seems to be the geek favorite of mail clients. I like the sound of its flexibility, except for the fact that it doesn't support the mouse. (Mutt users cry foul at this point) but aren't Vim and Emacs doing fine at this point with mouse support? If you run Emacs from console, you get normal Emacs. If you run it from an xterm, you get XEmacs. Can we not do the same thing with Mutt?
;)
If it's already been done, then after you flame me, tell me where to look for it
I've had mine for well over a year. In fact, I've even had time to break it, send it back, and have them ship me a new one gratis. I love it... it's a bit heavy but works quite well, and has a big Li-Ion battery that I charge every other night. I also have the mini keyboard, which kicks ass. Remind me to get a separate number pad though, for those rare times I need one. The multimedia buttons work under Linux too, just use $YOUR_FAVORITE_MM_KEY_APP ... I use Lineak and KLineakConfig.
monolithic? okaaaay... if the kernel wasn't one big source tree, it wouldn't be the same linux running on '86 as on PPC... are you suggesting we fork linux? i'm gonna have to go ahead and disagree with you, mmmkaaay? I agree with your "big distro" argument somewhat... maybe the install disc should be pretty barren but have supporting discs with different tasks in mind. or something. as for one-size-fits-all kernels, i'd rather have them than different Debian installers for each permutation of kernel config options. if you really care about optimization, it's not all that difficult to rebuild your kernel, especially with the new, slicker xconfig. hell, i hear libranet can help you recompile without touching an xterm. let's get things like that into Debian :)
My parents live in the boondocks. Their house has been robbed twice. The first time, the baddies entered through an unlocked window and stole a stereo, $1000 emergency cash, and my dad's wedding ring, which was given to him my my mother's grandmother. He was a freelance carpenter at the time, so he didn't wear it at work. That sucked a lot.
The second time, someone broke into the garage, half of which is used as a wood shop. They stole all his tools. That time, however, his insurance bought him a full set of brand-spankin new tools. Oh yeah, and the baddies didn't bother to take any of the really old (but really good) hammers or angle cutters. That theft actually worked out for the better.
Agreed, you've got to lock everything up. But sometimes... getting robbed is good. Go figure.
As an ethical vegetarian and Free Software user, upon reading the first two sentences of your post, expected to be thoroughly offended within the next three paragraphs. See, I'm somewhat used to being ridiculed for taking a stand on my beliefs.
Your analogy actually was flawless and didn't piss me off. I suspect it wouldn't even bother a carnivorous Microsoft executive, either! Thanks. I'm going to use that one.
I'm "smoking something" right now, and i promise you if I had any mod points, I'd find a way to use them all to brand that fool Overrated. Hell, Enron fraudulently inflated stock prices, and the execs bailed out in time to make tens of millions, leaving former employees jobless and stripped of their life savings. Thousands of lives totally fucked. Yeah, every company should do shit like that.
... Is an ignorant statement. Some authors decide to release their code under a certain license, and people bitch. If ASL doesn't play nice with the GPL, that is unfortunate... and we might have to look at something else. Then again, Apache 1.x is working great as far as I can tell. But these license zealots whining about how the "BSD/ASL/XFree/GPL sucks" are really just ignorant. If I write some code, and don't want it to be sucked up by a profit-making corporation without my consent, and without recieving any credit, that's my own fucking business! By the same token, if I want my code to be able to be used by whomever wants it, again, that's my own fucking business!
1) The interpretation of the GPL license is not just the opinions of individuals in the FSF, it is designed to be rigorously defendable in a court of law.
(2) Rather than look at opinions about compatibility, people should look at the ASF2.0 and GPL licenses to see if they really are compatible.
(2) If you look at the two licenses, they really are compatible.
I'd learn how to count first.
Jesus, that was a serious fucking question
And you asked it like a serious fucking jackass. Do you want your Money back?
I'll answer your question, though. Konqueror isn't perfect, but neither is the rest of KDE. I use Debian/KDE exclusively, and while I love the new developments in 3.2, I've noticed that there are almost as many bugs in the "stable" release as there were when I was tracking CVS HEAD. I'm not sure why that is. I've talked about it with the Debian maintainers for KDE quite a bit, and some of them think that a feature freeze period before releases may help. As it stands now, new features are allowed into KDE right up until the release. This obviously goes against most other serious OSS development project methods (cases in point: GNOME and Linux itself). In the short run though, I'm told that by KDE 3.2.1 things will be a lot less buggy overall.
Anyway, Konqueror is more stable now than it has been. It also renders much better, thanks in part to Apple. I still get random crashes every once in a while, but it works a hell of a lot better than IE6 with the latest updates on my girlfriend's XP box.
Maybe I'm paranoid, or maybe I just read an article about certain magnetic fields damaging brain cell DNA. I don't remember though, because I just shaved with an electric razor. Damnit. Seriously, can we just get over this and invest in some Fiber to the Curb (FFTC) or Fiber to the Home (FTTH)?
I'm interested in what the ratio is between politicians who are fully corrupt and know what they're doing with this, and those who are simply along for the ride (and due for a swing or three from the old cluebat). Usually the two groups get lumped together. Harassing the former won't help; the latter may actually lend you an ear. How do we tell who's who? Look at voting records and campaign contributions? Who's the ugliest (which side would that make them on...)?
Really? My slot A must be a forgery.