The only problem with that is that if one is an avid gamer, getting into a G5 (or any Mac, for that matter), dramatically limits the number of available games to play.
If someone is seriously considering this SLI solution, then gaming is probably a massive priority for him. As such, he's proabably not going to want to settle for the smattering of titles (albeit popular titles) to eventually make their way to the Mac.
Aren't we to the point where CPU and (single) GPU power is high enough for just about any game without needing a SLI solution? Seems to me this SLI bit is only to induce a boner in the geekiest of geeks, and at a high price to boot.
Just doens't make much sense to me. If there's a game my Boxx FX53 + X800 won't play well, then it's probably not worth playing.
God, I tell ya: as a Mac AND Windows user, I grimace at the smug hey-I-dare-you attitude that Mac users have with respect to viruses (NOT virii!), trojans, and worms. Mac OS X has not cut its teeth by ascending to a worldwide dominant OS status, so quite logically it has dozens if not hundreds of potential exploits that are out there that simply have not been targeting. Security by obscurity is still security, but the only thing it will take is a few Mac OS X infections in the wild to shut everyone up, and at that point, Mac OS X loses a bit of its luster.
Why Mac users flippantly flaunt OS X's robustness is beyond me -- they're just begging for trouble. Just let the platform fly under the radar and remain undisturbed.
You've cleverly omitted the statement's context, which says that ZD means that there are no defects for a given project milestone. This is motherhood-and-apple pie with respect to any mature software development process. It's a milestone/metric right up there with hitting a low enough defect arrival rate before moving on to the next test phase.
Christ man, how many times do people have to be told to use Firefox or another alternative, more secure browser? IE's browser development efforts have been long gone, and it shows in both features/functionality as well as security.
I think what he is saying is that Apple is already sucessful (profitable) in its PC business. The fact that they are also sucessful 9profitable) in another area does not detract from their other business. If you think that a company can only be sucessful in one area than YOU are the fool.
They aren't LOSING money on the PC side, but they ARE losing marketshare and units-shipped ground to other major PC vendors. More and more PCs are being shipped, and a decreasing percentage of them are Macs. This fact is everywhere, and you know it.
And yet the company continues to make major educational sales and grow in other markets like servers.
What? Apple has won a few high-profile edu deals, and that's about it. And Apple is NOT making inroads into the server market, except in a few very small, very niche instances. I'm a director for an enterprise server monitoring product suite, and out of 6000+ customers ranging from Fortune 50 companies to smaller shops, NOT ONE has asked my product management team for OSX support. Not a single one. Stop with the BS generalizations.
And yet many more have started offering support for Apple products.
Really? Care to name a few big software houses who have entered the Mac market with no previous history of Mac support? Because I can sure name a few large software vendors who have dropped Mac title support.
You're wrong.
Got proof? Until you do, I'll cite the afterthought nature of Gmail, the incompatibility of Safari with major online banking sites, and general usage quirkiness that I experience with Safari when browsing the web that simply doens't exist when I use IE (or even Firefox.9).
No, the fact that you bring up these rainy day scenarios shows that you are kidding yourself.
It's idiots like you who make me ashamed to be a Mac user. Hint: not everything is sunny in Cupertino with Apple's PC business. Things are holding up for now, but that's due in large part to the wild success of the iPod and ITMS. The G5 shipments aren't what Apple needs them to be, and sales of consumer Macs are sagging. I continue to use a PowerBook because I have all the software I need on OSX for portable purposes, but I also have an Operton 150 Boxx workstation running XP Pro as my desktop. I'm the kind of Mac user you hate: one who understands Apple has a very cool product, but is also aware that platform usage isn't a holy war and that we live in a Windows/x86 world.
Them's the facts. Deal.
Apple's computers uses comodity parts which benefits them and yet they integrate the hardware in such a way that it makes it superior to most PC competition. The G5 is a PRIME example of this. This allows Apple teo get the best advantagesa of commoditized hardware as well as that of non-commoditized hardware.
More complete BS. I just sold my dual G5 2x2 with 20" Cinema Display to a friend in Detroit who runs a production house, so I'm very familiar with the G5 machine. NOTHING about it makes it superior to a similar high-end PC, save, perhaps, its instant wake functionality and awesome OS. On the downside, software and hardware selection is limited, stuff tends to be more expensive, and if you have issues with the machine (mine needed to have the Radeon 9800 Pro card replaced, then, a month later, the power supply), you best hit it off with Applecare, or you're SOL.
You seem to have a habit of making sweeping generalizations with no evidence. If you're going to claim the G5 is a superior machine, then BACK IT UP.
because they feel that there isn't roomo to innovate when yoour rate of return is so insignificant.
Well, tough shit for Apple, because I've got news for them: that's where the market is now. For every guy like me out there who drops
$3500+ on a new uber-machine, there's several hundred who won't spend more than $699. And guess who offers that deal? Just about every PC vendor out there. Guess who doesn't? Apple.
Doesn't matter. At this point, MS offerings are downright ubiquitous, so if they were called MS Assholebomb and Mailshitter, people would still be using them because that's what they were shown. The honus is on other vendors (like Mozilla) to create cool and compelling branding so that prospective users might understand the value the vendor's product brings them.
A high percentage of users are resistant to learning new technology.
I'm not concerned Apple is successful in another area; in fact, I think that's great. I own an iPod mini and a 12" PB Rev B. 1 GHz. Go Apple!
If you, however, think that because Apple is doing well on its consumer electronics side of the house it automatically bodes well for Apple's PC business, you're a fool. It bodes well for Apple as a commercial entity, and it may or may not bode well for your dual G5 and OSX, depending on what strategic direction Apple eventually chooses.
Apple cannot continue to be marginalized in the PC market and sustain itself. Its market share isn't growing, its losing the educational battle to Dell in spectacular fashion, and a few major software vendors have discontinued support for a number of products. Safari is not a browser other parties develop to, and interesting web endeavors wind up supporting the Mac as a second-tier afterthought (see Gmail). If you argue any of this, you're kidding yourself.
Let's continue: hardware is commoditized fully at this point, and Apple refuses to play in the low-end market. Meanwhile, Dell and other commodity vendors eat a very nice lunch. There are now seperate iPod and PC divisions within Apple, and some analysts have hinted that's in place to more easily transition out of a given business should the corporation decide to do so. Even rumors of Apple's upcoming new displays are indicating that the ADC is gone in favor of DVI, and it doesn't take a genius to realize that that move might play into a larger "consumer electronics" strategy that could cater to the x86 world. In another vein, most users have significant investments in Windows software, so even when it's upgrade time for them, they go back to a commodity x86 vendor, simply because it's cheaper and they don't have to re-purchase and re-learn new software.
But the big problem is this: no way can Apple keep up with OS and hardware R&D at the rate MS, Intel, and AMD do. If Apple's financial investments bear tastier fruit in the consumer electronics business, then dammit, that's where you'll see Apple focus. They're not stupid.
No way. I'll take that bet and spend the money now, because it's as good as in the bank. And me, hell, I'm a Mac user (at least for my laptop).
ITMS sales are not driving Apple PC sales. iPods yes, but PCs, no.
Stop with the fanboyism. If Apple's quite obvious new focus and record-setting stock price don't tell you that a new strategic direction is emerging 1 Infinite Loop, you're seeing only what you want to see, which isn't much.
That's how Microsoft wins. It enters established, proven markets (in most cases), and simply kills other competitors by attrition and being able to withstand financial bloodletting far better than anyone else. Look at the Xbox for the best evidence of this.
Absolutely. Apple sees a chance to reinvent itself and get away from the relatively unsuccessful endeavor of becoming a significant PC player, and in the process jump on an opportunity to establish itself as a heavyweight in consumer electronics. Good call, if you ask me, even though it could, someday, bode poorly for my PowerBook.
Jobs has repeatedly said that Canada's liberal IP policies with respect to software distribution and protection prevent it from becoming an a-list geography. I wouldn't hold your breath if I were you.
Who fucking cares? Take ogg and shove it clear up your ass, because nobody gives a flying shit. Ogg/Vorbis is the penultimate incarnation of much ado about nothing. It might look snazzy in a whitepaper, but the market has spoken, and there's no soup for ogg. No soup.
No one cares. Get over it.
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If someone is seriously considering this SLI solution, then gaming is probably a massive priority for him. As such, he's proabably not going to want to settle for the smattering of titles (albeit popular titles) to eventually make their way to the Mac.
Just doens't make much sense to me. If there's a game my Boxx FX53 + X800 won't play well, then it's probably not worth playing.
Why Mac users flippantly flaunt OS X's robustness is beyond me -- they're just begging for trouble. Just let the platform fly under the radar and remain undisturbed.
Boy, you must be a fun guy at the bar.
You've cleverly omitted the statement's context, which says that ZD means that there are no defects for a given project milestone. This is motherhood-and-apple pie with respect to any mature software development process. It's a milestone/metric right up there with hitting a low enough defect arrival rate before moving on to the next test phase.
Christ man, how many times do people have to be told to use Firefox or another alternative, more secure browser? IE's browser development efforts have been long gone, and it shows in both features/functionality as well as security.
They aren't LOSING money on the PC side, but they ARE losing marketshare and units-shipped ground to other major PC vendors. More and more PCs are being shipped, and a decreasing percentage of them are Macs. This fact is everywhere, and you know it.
And yet the company continues to make major educational sales and grow in other markets like servers.
What? Apple has won a few high-profile edu deals, and that's about it. And Apple is NOT making inroads into the server market, except in a few very small, very niche instances. I'm a director for an enterprise server monitoring product suite, and out of 6000+ customers ranging from Fortune 50 companies to smaller shops, NOT ONE has asked my product management team for OSX support. Not a single one. Stop with the BS generalizations.
And yet many more have started offering support for Apple products.
Really? Care to name a few big software houses who have entered the Mac market with no previous history of Mac support? Because I can sure name a few large software vendors who have dropped Mac title support.
You're wrong. Got proof? Until you do, I'll cite the afterthought nature of Gmail, the incompatibility of Safari with major online banking sites, and general usage quirkiness that I experience with Safari when browsing the web that simply doens't exist when I use IE (or even Firefox .9).
No, the fact that you bring up these rainy day scenarios shows that you are kidding yourself.
It's idiots like you who make me ashamed to be a Mac user. Hint: not everything is sunny in Cupertino with Apple's PC business. Things are holding up for now, but that's due in large part to the wild success of the iPod and ITMS. The G5 shipments aren't what Apple needs them to be, and sales of consumer Macs are sagging. I continue to use a PowerBook because I have all the software I need on OSX for portable purposes, but I also have an Operton 150 Boxx workstation running XP Pro as my desktop. I'm the kind of Mac user you hate: one who understands Apple has a very cool product, but is also aware that platform usage isn't a holy war and that we live in a Windows/x86 world.
Them's the facts. Deal.
Apple's computers uses comodity parts which benefits them and yet they integrate the hardware in such a way that it makes it superior to most PC competition. The G5 is a PRIME example of this. This allows Apple teo get the best advantagesa of commoditized hardware as well as that of non-commoditized hardware.
More complete BS. I just sold my dual G5 2x2 with 20" Cinema Display to a friend in Detroit who runs a production house, so I'm very familiar with the G5 machine. NOTHING about it makes it superior to a similar high-end PC, save, perhaps, its instant wake functionality and awesome OS. On the downside, software and hardware selection is limited, stuff tends to be more expensive, and if you have issues with the machine (mine needed to have the Radeon 9800 Pro card replaced, then, a month later, the power supply), you best hit it off with Applecare, or you're SOL.
You seem to have a habit of making sweeping generalizations with no evidence. If you're going to claim the G5 is a superior machine, then BACK IT UP.
because they feel that there isn't roomo to innovate when yoour rate of return is so insignificant.
Well, tough shit for Apple, because I've got news for them: that's where the market is now. For every guy like me out there who drops $3500+ on a new uber-machine, there's several hundred who won't spend more than $699. And guess who offers that deal? Just about every PC vendor out there. Guess who doesn't? Apple.
Then kindly explain your dilemma to the guy holding the gun to your head forcing you to download it. He'll probably understand.
Hey geniUs, before you go puking on someone else's spelling you might want to make sure you spell geniUs correnctly.
Just a friendly tip.
Doesn't matter. At this point, MS offerings are downright ubiquitous, so if they were called MS Assholebomb and Mailshitter, people would still be using them because that's what they were shown. The honus is on other vendors (like Mozilla) to create cool and compelling branding so that prospective users might understand the value the vendor's product brings them. A high percentage of users are resistant to learning new technology.
I'm not concerned Apple is successful in another area; in fact, I think that's great. I own an iPod mini and a 12" PB Rev B. 1 GHz. Go Apple!
If you, however, think that because Apple is doing well on its consumer electronics side of the house it automatically bodes well for Apple's PC business, you're a fool. It bodes well for Apple as a commercial entity, and it may or may not bode well for your dual G5 and OSX, depending on what strategic direction Apple eventually chooses.
Apple cannot continue to be marginalized in the PC market and sustain itself. Its market share isn't growing, its losing the educational battle to Dell in spectacular fashion, and a few major software vendors have discontinued support for a number of products. Safari is not a browser other parties develop to, and interesting web endeavors wind up supporting the Mac as a second-tier afterthought (see Gmail). If you argue any of this, you're kidding yourself.
Let's continue: hardware is commoditized fully at this point, and Apple refuses to play in the low-end market. Meanwhile, Dell and other commodity vendors eat a very nice lunch. There are now seperate iPod and PC divisions within Apple, and some analysts have hinted that's in place to more easily transition out of a given business should the corporation decide to do so. Even rumors of Apple's upcoming new displays are indicating that the ADC is gone in favor of DVI, and it doesn't take a genius to realize that that move might play into a larger "consumer electronics" strategy that could cater to the x86 world. In another vein, most users have significant investments in Windows software, so even when it's upgrade time for them, they go back to a commodity x86 vendor, simply because it's cheaper and they don't have to re-purchase and re-learn new software.
But the big problem is this: no way can Apple keep up with OS and hardware R&D at the rate MS, Intel, and AMD do. If Apple's financial investments bear tastier fruit in the consumer electronics business, then dammit, that's where you'll see Apple focus. They're not stupid.
Your sig says "modifying." You keep saying that word. I do not think you know what it means. (hint: moderating)
15-25 Mbps. [whistle] Thank God I've got my Intel Pentium 4 Processor (TM) to speed the Internet up!
No way. I'll take that bet and spend the money now, because it's as good as in the bank. And me, hell, I'm a Mac user (at least for my laptop). ITMS sales are not driving Apple PC sales. iPods yes, but PCs, no.
Stop with the fanboyism. If Apple's quite obvious new focus and record-setting stock price don't tell you that a new strategic direction is emerging 1 Infinite Loop, you're seeing only what you want to see, which isn't much.
That's how Microsoft wins. It enters established, proven markets (in most cases), and simply kills other competitors by attrition and being able to withstand financial bloodletting far better than anyone else. Look at the Xbox for the best evidence of this.
Absolutely. Apple sees a chance to reinvent itself and get away from the relatively unsuccessful endeavor of becoming a significant PC player, and in the process jump on an opportunity to establish itself as a heavyweight in consumer electronics. Good call, if you ask me, even though it could, someday, bode poorly for my PowerBook.
Funny, albeit pointless, stuff. Mod up mods!
Jobs has repeatedly said that Canada's liberal IP policies with respect to software distribution and protection prevent it from becoming an a-list geography. I wouldn't hold your breath if I were you.
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Yay.
Exactly. It's success through market attrition, not via product superiority or innovation. Pure brute force, nothing more.
Wait.
Who fucking cares? Take ogg and shove it clear up your ass, because nobody gives a flying shit. Ogg/Vorbis is the penultimate incarnation of much ado about nothing. It might look snazzy in a whitepaper, but the market has spoken, and there's no soup for ogg. No soup. No one cares. Get over it.
Oh for the love of fuck, shut up. The last thing we need is some pussified suckbag trying to tell us not to swear on the internet. Jesus Christ.