No, the problem is that we're talking about the game industry, and it's more pervasive in game studios than it is in many other engineering environments. If you want to counter that argument, go for it. Nobody gets anywhere by trying to solve the issue of humans robbing each other by just going, "Well, it's a persuasive problem, so we should just ignore places where it happens more often than others. We'll just solve robberies by somehow making it never happen again."
Many humans can handle porn. But for some reason, they seem to prefer seeing the kind of porn they want to see, and generally in a private environment, not plastered on computer screens at work. I apologize if that came off as hetronormative - I just mean that the *multiple studios I've work at* have had work environments that are exactly that: full of guys who think that the word hetronormative is imaginary PC bullshit. What you think should be tolerated (ie: all porn, of all kinds, I presume?) is exactly what professionalism seeks to address and what lacks in these work environments. But in the ways that these environments are unprofessional, it is exclusively geared towards male hetro guys who seem to freakout at the very concept of hetronomativity. (Presumably you would be fine with most of your co-workers laughing at you and calling you an SJW.. it's a very off-putting element of many of my colleagues in this industry to me. I'm not saying it's all bad. Plenty of good inclusive environments in gaming exist - I'm only saying that they're still the exception.)
I'm sure that the solution is just to hope that everyone gets all mature and never gets offended or bothered by the lack of professionalism and sometimes downright hostile environment in some studios.
And I don't need to find a new job. I've worked in this industry for years and year, and I enjoy it. What's next - I don't like a law, and your suggestion is that I move somewhere else?
Yeah well, I work in it, so I'll thank you for not speaking for us. It is inherently a pretty tough environment for a lot of women, and I've worked outside of the game industry with similar male to female ratios. The work environment and what's considered professional to talk about and what's permissible in the work environment is not the same.
Guys that work in games are also incredibly defensive about this - they seem to take it as an attack on their character, in addition to somehow thinking this is the correct way to progress towards more women not wanting to work in these environments, so pardon me if I call bullshit on your anecdotal evidence. I assume your son won't mind managers drawing penises on whiteboards for fun or plastering each others wallpapers with porn - could you say the same thing if you had a daughter who wanted to work at a typical studio? Game studios let a ton of shit slide that wouldn't be tolerated in other industries.
And hey, I'm not personally offended by that kinda shit - I'm a guy. But the upside of that workplace freedom does cost us a certain amount of access to qualified female engineers.
They have a similar bikeshare system in Montreal and it's wildly popular and people use them even in the winter - it's only if it's too snowy that they don't get used. People who think it's impossible to bike in winter are just a subset of the people who don't use them in the summer. And I certainly don't see people saying we shouldn't spend money on motorcycle licensing, laws, traffic considerations, parking spots, regulations, etc just because they can't be used all winter.
If you think you're the only Canadian that can't stand it, I don't think you live in Canada. Or are you just trying to express to us how unique you are?
It helps if you know what you're talking about. Starcraft you can mod all you want in single player, in fact, they effectively encourage Starcraft mods.
Go home, you're drunk. It's not important that it's written in Java. It just is.
"Hi everyone, we wrote this library in a language, but we won't tell you what language we wrote it in, because it's not important."
That's a weapons-grade stupid way to think about it. Man, I couldn't give a shit about Java. Don't use it, don't program in it. Exactly what point do you think you're making here?
Except people who commit crimes don't really care all that much about the punishment. Harsher sentences don't lead to reduction in crime. Criminals are the kinds of people who think, "Hey, what's the punishment for killing somebody?"
Let's talk income tax, because the vast majority of people are employees, not small business owners (when you compare the amount of actual business owners to the amount of pandering that goes towards them, it's hilarious.) When you make a certain amount, as I do, small changes to my tax rates don't really bother me. I make a shitload of money, so another couple of % of my earnings isn't really anything I'm prepared to uproot my life for, pick up and move for. Your claim that the rich people are mostly people who own business is stupid sauce.
You honestly think in 2 seconds you can identify a problem that a bunch of guys, who've spent years developing a technology, haven't considered, let alone addressed? Read the article, it only takes you 2 other seconds.
No, the problem is that we're talking about the game industry, and it's more pervasive in game studios than it is in many other engineering environments. If you want to counter that argument, go for it. Nobody gets anywhere by trying to solve the issue of humans robbing each other by just going, "Well, it's a persuasive problem, so we should just ignore places where it happens more often than others. We'll just solve robberies by somehow making it never happen again."
Many humans can handle porn. But for some reason, they seem to prefer seeing the kind of porn they want to see, and generally in a private environment, not plastered on computer screens at work. I apologize if that came off as hetronormative - I just mean that the *multiple studios I've work at* have had work environments that are exactly that: full of guys who think that the word hetronormative is imaginary PC bullshit. What you think should be tolerated (ie: all porn, of all kinds, I presume?) is exactly what professionalism seeks to address and what lacks in these work environments. But in the ways that these environments are unprofessional, it is exclusively geared towards male hetro guys who seem to freakout at the very concept of hetronomativity. (Presumably you would be fine with most of your co-workers laughing at you and calling you an SJW .. it's a very off-putting element of many of my colleagues in this industry to me. I'm not saying it's all bad. Plenty of good inclusive environments in gaming exist - I'm only saying that they're still the exception.)
I'm sure that the solution is just to hope that everyone gets all mature and never gets offended or bothered by the lack of professionalism and sometimes downright hostile environment in some studios.
And I don't need to find a new job. I've worked in this industry for years and year, and I enjoy it. What's next - I don't like a law, and your suggestion is that I move somewhere else?
> I have friends in the video game industry
Yeah well, I work in it, so I'll thank you for not speaking for us. It is inherently a pretty tough environment for a lot of women, and I've worked outside of the game industry with similar male to female ratios. The work environment and what's considered professional to talk about and what's permissible in the work environment is not the same.
Guys that work in games are also incredibly defensive about this - they seem to take it as an attack on their character, in addition to somehow thinking this is the correct way to progress towards more women not wanting to work in these environments, so pardon me if I call bullshit on your anecdotal evidence. I assume your son won't mind managers drawing penises on whiteboards for fun or plastering each others wallpapers with porn - could you say the same thing if you had a daughter who wanted to work at a typical studio? Game studios let a ton of shit slide that wouldn't be tolerated in other industries.
And hey, I'm not personally offended by that kinda shit - I'm a guy. But the upside of that workplace freedom does cost us a certain amount of access to qualified female engineers.
They have a similar bikeshare system in Montreal and it's wildly popular and people use them even in the winter - it's only if it's too snowy that they don't get used. People who think it's impossible to bike in winter are just a subset of the people who don't use them in the summer. And I certainly don't see people saying we shouldn't spend money on motorcycle licensing, laws, traffic considerations, parking spots, regulations, etc just because they can't be used all winter.
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No. Nobody has noticed this. You're the first. Thank god you're keeping scientists of the world grounded.
They still let you turn off all ads if you have sufficient karma.
"The old copyright model [...] has expired."
Nobody is saying copyright law shouldn't exist.
"And yet the Music Industry today is as powerful as ever."
Is it still powerful? Sure. As ever? Uh .. no.
If you think you're the only Canadian that can't stand it, I don't think you live in Canada. Or are you just trying to express to us how unique you are?
Sure, let's solve this problem by ... uh .. what, legislating HTML practices? Brilliant.
I don't think you understand games a service.
It helps if you know what you're talking about. Starcraft you can mod all you want in single player, in fact, they effectively encourage Starcraft mods.
They still have 7M subscribers. I'd hardly count that as dead.
Cats only eat a relatively small % of the birds they kill. I'm a cat owner, but the numbers don't lie.
Suck it up. None.
Go home, you're drunk. It's not important that it's written in Java. It just is.
"Hi everyone, we wrote this library in a language, but we won't tell you what language we wrote it in, because it's not important."
That's a weapons-grade stupid way to think about it. Man, I couldn't give a shit about Java. Don't use it, don't program in it. Exactly what point do you think you're making here?
Are not, rather.
Except people who commit crimes don't really care all that much about the punishment. Harsher sentences don't lead to reduction in crime. Criminals are the kinds of people who think, "Hey, what's the punishment for killing somebody?"
You're a very broken person, but I suspect you know this.
Even when it involves being jerks, Americans think they're unique. ;)
"Well, those clowns in congress did it again! What a bunch of clowns!"
Let's talk income tax, because the vast majority of people are employees, not small business owners (when you compare the amount of actual business owners to the amount of pandering that goes towards them, it's hilarious.) When you make a certain amount, as I do, small changes to my tax rates don't really bother me. I make a shitload of money, so another couple of % of my earnings isn't really anything I'm prepared to uproot my life for, pick up and move for. Your claim that the rich people are mostly people who own business is stupid sauce.
Guess what, you're that Joe Sixpack. They've successfully convinced you that it's not worth the effort of trying.
You honestly think in 2 seconds you can identify a problem that a bunch of guys, who've spent years developing a technology, haven't considered, let alone addressed? Read the article, it only takes you 2 other seconds.