In the 27 years I have been programming the consistency of the work force has seemed to me to stay about the same. As far as I can tell 1% are super stars, 9% are damned good and drive most of the industry, 30% create about 90% of the good code, 20% are good enough to let loose with detailed supervision and then there are the 40% that are why the fuck are you even trying to code. And these are the people that have supposedly studied computer science, etc.
If any politian, CEO or whatever states they believe everybody could do their own coding it just means they are even further below the 40% crap already in the industry.
If that pretext is your doctor has concerns for a specific reason involving your child then yes. If the pretext is the dip shit preacher, most of which can barely read, tells you to then no.
Yo butt wipe, that is exactly what it means in this case.
I see this crap every day where I work. I know kids at Oregon State that have just graduated. They rarely get a call back at the company I work for. Instead we get stacks of grad resumes from out of state universities for Indians. Most of them have a undergrad degree from somewhere in India which they had to pay NOTHING for. They come here, and yes pay out of state tuition, but that is still heavily subsidized by governments here.
Why in hells sake are we not charging them the real cost of their education after they paid nothing for the first part and reducing the cost to actual, yes actual, citizens.
If Wisconsin were not a bit out of the way here I would go to the court house on the days and protest against Infosys, their like and the companies who use them.
Ah now I see it. I should ensure that I marry someone also with a professional job so that if we have even one child it will see any one of its parents for a couple hours a day. And we just might be able to help enough with college that it will not be an indentured servant for more than 20 years.
I am so tired to hearing about "massive entitlement complex". If you mean most of the country lives comfortably on less than 60k per year in butt fuck Texas I would agree. If you think comfortably means living far enough from work that you have more than an hour each way then good for you.
Posting as "Anonymous Coward" states just what you are.
I agree with you completely. Over the last 25+ years I have come in early to work with the German, French, Dutch, Finnish and Israilis. Every one of them had their own quirks and problems (including me) but we always manged to work together and get the problems solved. I even moved to Germany and wrote software there for 3 years. Had a blast.
I have often worked as a consultant here remotely. It can be tough to keep things together when you are remote. For the last 18 years there has often been been Indians along with the other nationalities in the office. I get along pretty well with them but I never claimed to get along with everybody in any situation.
I do not know what it is with outsourcing to India. It has in the projects I have been associated with be a failure. I believe it is partly culture and partly just the fact that we are pretty much exactly 12 hours out of phase and it makes it impossible to coordinate on a real time basis. I know it seems the concept of CYA is a strong one in the projects I have seen.
You have also missed the point. Much of the reason the are obese is because the food they can afford is processed crap. It is cheap because while making it easily distributable, and therefor cheap, has removed all the nutritional value. It is just empty calories. While they may not be dying of hunger, they are dying of malnutrition. Scream all you want it is their choice but healthy food is all too often not available to them. We have an extensive school lunch program in this country with not only the same nutritional issue, but the kids often in summer really do go hungry.
And standard of living is not increasing. I make a pretty good wage and I still have to choose where I spend my money on the items you mention. When I go to the library I see the people there who come in to use a computer.
You are just parroting the republican talking points. They are shallow and purposefully miss the point that the standards of living in this country have dropped drastically in the last decade.
Number? Studies? Actual data? I keep hearing this kind of crap. The problem is every time a project I was on got associated with off shoring it ended up costing time and effort here to cover up the screw ups.
Again, present actual facts. I am sick and tired of the same old sound bites that just never seem to be true.
Nice sound bite. Too bad it is only that. We have never had, and should never have, true free market capitalism. The government has always provided many services to the businesses that make up our economy.
Even if they had not, out taxes are paying for these contracts. Our government is supposed to represent the citizens. It is in the best interest of the citizens on this country to get people back to work.
So you are saying that Libertarianism is based on the concept of "everybody is equal, but some are more equal than others". Where have I heard this before?
I'll second that. I was working in Germany and married there. When I returned to the states I applied for a green card for her before we came back. She received the temporary paper work at the airport and picked up the Green card a couple of weeks later. She now has dual US German citizenship.
Gotta call BS on that. I do it because I get paid for it. I stay with it because I cannot think of a single thing I can make so much money at otherwise. Occasionally I get to really enjoy it but working for a corporation tends to kick that in the nuts on regular basis.
How about we not supplement immigrant education and put that money towards our own citizens. Maybe then they would not need so many student loans and could afford to work for less wages when they graduate.
The Universities are pricing themselves out of the market.
These are the same people who think it is OK to fund the school system by installing vending machines in every corner of the school. Money trumps making sense.
Again, gotta call BS on that. I said no such thing. I made no generalizations what so ever. I made one comment about one event in history.
Part of the stimulus bill passed by congress and signed by President Obama was a temporary holiday on the social security rate. Congress has chosen to not renew that holiday meaning we have to pay the full amount of what we would have paid had we not been a part of the stimulus. You, me and anybody who makes a wage and pays social security. You directly received benefit from the stimulus.
Gotta call BS on that. The temporary reduction was a part of the stimulus bill your ilk so sorrily hate. Until your little piece of it done they you whine like little babies.
Don't bother. The republicans are all against any stimulus until their piece of stimulus runs out. Seems like the whiny right wingers are out in force today.
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In the 27 years I have been programming the consistency of the work force has seemed to me to stay about the same. As far as I can tell 1% are super stars, 9% are damned good and drive most of the industry, 30% create about 90% of the good code, 20% are good enough to let loose with detailed supervision and then there are the 40% that are why the fuck are you even trying to code. And these are the people that have supposedly studied computer science, etc.
If any politian, CEO or whatever states they believe everybody could do their own coding it just means they are even further below the 40% crap already in the industry.
If that pretext is your doctor has concerns for a specific reason involving your child then yes. If the pretext is the dip shit preacher, most of which can barely read, tells you to then no.
Basically Comshaft is saying "We tried so WTF sue us". Typical big company lawyer bull shit.
Yo butt wipe, that is exactly what it means in this case.
I see this crap every day where I work. I know kids at Oregon State that have just graduated. They rarely get a call back at the company I work for. Instead we get stacks of grad resumes from out of state universities for Indians. Most of them have a undergrad degree from somewhere in India which they had to pay NOTHING for. They come here, and yes pay out of state tuition, but that is still heavily subsidized by governments here.
Why in hells sake are we not charging them the real cost of their education after they paid nothing for the first part and reducing the cost to actual, yes actual, citizens.
If Wisconsin were not a bit out of the way here I would go to the court house on the days and protest against Infosys, their like and the companies who use them.
Ah now I see it. I should ensure that I marry someone also with a professional job so that if we have even one child it will see any one of its parents for a couple hours a day. And we just might be able to help enough with college that it will not be an indentured servant for more than 20 years.
I am so tired to hearing about "massive entitlement complex". If you mean most of the country lives comfortably on less than 60k per year in butt fuck Texas I would agree. If you think comfortably means living far enough from work that you have more than an hour each way then good for you.
Posting as "Anonymous Coward" states just what you are.
I agree with you completely. Over the last 25+ years I have come in early to work with the German, French, Dutch, Finnish and Israilis. Every one of them had their own quirks and problems (including me) but we always manged to work together and get the problems solved. I even moved to Germany and wrote software there for 3 years. Had a blast.
I have often worked as a consultant here remotely. It can be tough to keep things together when you are remote. For the last 18 years there has often been been Indians along with the other nationalities in the office. I get along pretty well with them but I never claimed to get along with everybody in any situation.
I do not know what it is with outsourcing to India. It has in the projects I have been associated with be a failure. I believe it is partly culture and partly just the fact that we are pretty much exactly 12 hours out of phase and it makes it impossible to coordinate on a real time basis. I know it seems the concept of CYA is a strong one in the projects I have seen.
You have also missed the point. Much of the reason the are obese is because the food they can afford is processed crap. It is cheap because while making it easily distributable, and therefor cheap, has removed all the nutritional value. It is just empty calories. While they may not be dying of hunger, they are dying of malnutrition. Scream all you want it is their choice but healthy food is all too often not available to them. We have an extensive school lunch program in this country with not only the same nutritional issue, but the kids often in summer really do go hungry.
And standard of living is not increasing. I make a pretty good wage and I still have to choose where I spend my money on the items you mention. When I go to the library I see the people there who come in to use a computer.
You are just parroting the republican talking points. They are shallow and purposefully miss the point that the standards of living in this country have dropped drastically in the last decade.
Number? Studies? Actual data? I keep hearing this kind of crap. The problem is every time a project I was on got associated with off shoring it ended up costing time and effort here to cover up the screw ups.
Again, present actual facts. I am sick and tired of the same old sound bites that just never seem to be true.
Nice sound bite. Too bad it is only that. We have never had, and should never have, true free market capitalism. The government has always provided many services to the businesses that make up our economy.
Even if they had not, out taxes are paying for these contracts. Our government is supposed to represent the citizens. It is in the best interest of the citizens on this country to get people back to work.
Since this was created at a University it is unclear on which company will attempt to patent it first. Any bets? Should be start a pool?
So you are saying that Libertarianism is based on the concept of "everybody is equal, but some are more equal than others". Where have I heard this before?
And your point would be?
Paul Ryan
I'll second that. I was working in Germany and married there. When I returned to the states I applied for a green card for her before we came back. She received the temporary paper work at the airport and picked up the Green card a couple of weeks later. She now has dual US German citizenship.
Gotta call BS on that. I do it because I get paid for it. I stay with it because I cannot think of a single thing I can make so much money at otherwise. Occasionally I get to really enjoy it but working for a corporation tends to kick that in the nuts on regular basis.
So what is worse being deported or shot in the head.
How about we not supplement immigrant education and put that money towards our own citizens. Maybe then they would not need so many student loans and could afford to work for less wages when they graduate.
The Universities are pricing themselves out of the market.
Some Apple fan boy at the patent office probably got a free iPhone.
This should not be just for the really secret stuff. The Chinese are using cyber attacks for industrial espionage.
The comments like the original poster and the one you quoted are from the Walmart shoppers looking for that penny deal.
Asking IT to filter email from their constituents is sinking pretty low.
These are the same people who think it is OK to fund the school system by installing vending machines in every corner of the school. Money trumps making sense.
Again, gotta call BS on that. I said no such thing. I made no generalizations what so ever. I made one comment about one event in history.
Part of the stimulus bill passed by congress and signed by President Obama was a temporary holiday on the social security rate. Congress has chosen to not renew that holiday meaning we have to pay the full amount of what we would have paid had we not been a part of the stimulus. You, me and anybody who makes a wage and pays social security. You directly received benefit from the stimulus.
Oh you mean congress.
Gotta call BS on that. The temporary reduction was a part of the stimulus bill your ilk so sorrily hate. Until your little piece of it done they you whine like little babies.
Don't bother. The republicans are all against any stimulus until their piece of stimulus runs out. Seems like the whiny right wingers are out in force today.