I don't see this getting very far anytime in the near future anyway...
SSL, VPN, IPv6. They've all been around for a long time. Sure SSL is used quite a bit, but it's definitely not used the majority of the time. We've seen stats on the WiFi expos where you can pick off hundreds of POP passwords thanks to plaintext connections. It will be a long time (if ever) before this is even close to mainstream.
Can't we refine one and use it for all these different applications? Or are these different protocols content-specific? (i.e. some protocols are good with video, others are better with raw data?) I haven't seen anything showing this.
Who has a link for some malware? Apparently all I have to do is put it somewhere and my harddrive, and I am no longer responsible for anything that I do on my computer. After all, it was compromised!
This is a crappy defense. Endusers need to become more aware of what's going on, and, at the same time, less capable of installing shit like this.
This is a class, and they're required to talk about the ethics involved. Of course they're going to make up some bullshit to convince the graders that they thought about it and spent a lot of time on it.
Seriously though, engineering firms have to consider things like this. It's common practice, and it's the reason that most people think as highly of engineers as they do. If your firm is selling this to a marketing firm, you should inform them of any ethics issues like this. In this project they're not really even analyzing it...they're just saying "this could be an issue."
If the beer pitcher is wireless, why can't the monitor be wireless too? The waiter/waitress could just carry around a "pager" that lit up a table number when the pitcher was empty. No sitting around. No lack of visibility. Just more efficient. (Granted, I'm sure there are drawbacks...to actually implement this thing you'd have to do more market analysis)
Now if some restaurant actually gets this, the first thing to do is figure out how to trick it. Then you can call your waiter/waitress whenever you need anything!
It's his right as an American citizen to make a perfectly legal request under the Freedom Of Information Act, There's no law requiring people to justify their requests, and just because he's not authorized to access them doesn't mean he should be investigated for being curious about their locations.
Yes it's his right. But it's not his right to request it anonymously. You can do a lot of things that are legal, but will put you under suspicion of the FBI and Secret Service. This is only one example of many.
My network used to be the "network of the free." No root passwords on the linux machines, no passwords on the Windows machine, no firewall to the Internet. It was really cool! And really free! Hell, I almost got the ACLU to sponsor me.
Then the shit hit the fan and we're no longer the network of the free.
How many times does history need to repeat itself?
Looks good and all, but what are you actually going to do with this thing?
If you actually need more storage, you'll buy a harddisk.
This thing may be (somewhat) portable, but I rarely carry anything around that won't fit on a 256mb USB drive. Not to mention a DVD.
Anyone have a (moderately) good reason to need (or want) one of these?
Disclaimer: No, I'm not waiting 2 minutes for each of 7 pages to load so I can RTFA. The first page was more than enough for me.
There are plenty of alternatives to the standard MP3.
This one will not be widely used by consumers if it has a light-weight tracking mechanism embedded in it. We'll simply use one of the others. Not to mention, there will always be players (and converters) that disable the tracking and convert to a more well-accepted format.
But maybe it's a step in the right direction. We'll see what becomes of it. My guess...absolutely nothing.
So if the corporation's headquarters is on fire, why should the citzenry answer the call to put out that fire?
The obligations of the corporation to the government and the government to the corporation. Most of these are well-defined and well-documented. The corporation pays taxes on a lot of things, the customers pay taxes, and the employees pay taxes. The corporation must follow a variety of local and federal laws, many of which establish employee requirements (who can work for the company, how much they must get payed, what benefits they must be given, how they must be treated, etc).
Outside of these obligations, one can assume that each CEO has the moral obligation to look out for the good of his/her country. But this comes to an issue of stakeholders. Each CEO must consider all of these and decide which is better for him. These stakeholders include his own welfare, wealth, and family.
If you can do such a better job of sitting on your ass and paying yourself money, why don't you work your ass off and try to become a CEO? He didn't just get lucky...I can assure you whatever he did required either a lot of intelligence or effort, probably both. Quit wasting your time babbling and do what he did.
These CEOs are traitors - they are betrying their country and their people for money.
They aren't betrying, or betraying for that matter, their country. What obligations do they have to their country? They pay their taxes, provide products and services, and the US economy would be worse off if the company didn't exist at all.
They're certainly not betraying their people. By my estimation, "their people" are their stockholders. If their choices are outsource or lose to their competitors, there is no question. It's unfortunate, but what are they supposed to do?
No I'm not (even close to) a CEO, and no I don't have a solution to our unemployment problems.
Nothing wrong with that. Many enterprising 5th and 6th graders will learn a lot more playing with their laptop than they would listening to a teacher anyway. I know I would have.
Let's face it, reading Slashdot and toying around with our machines are 10 times more educational than any conference or class we'll ever attend. While students need to pay attention the majority of the time, a little free time to educate themselves wouldn't hurt.
The TI-89 lives another day. This calculator has survived a long time. This calculator is so upgradable and versatile, I expect it to last for many more years.
When TI finally releases a better calculator, I hope they also release an upgrade for the 89. After all, the hardware will be sufficient for a long time. With 700k+ memory and a good-sized processor (I think it's 33Mhz underclocked to 11Mhz), it should work very well for just about everything but non-linear differential equations and other extremely CPU-intensive operations.
When the time comes, all we will need is a firmware upgrade to keep it around for even longer without having to upgrade. I've used this calculator for 6 years now, and I recommend it to everyone looking for a high-performance calculator. I hope to try the new HP calculator so I can compare to the competition, but I just don't think I can set my 89 down after all this time. I know it all too well.
Every anti spam tool should be measured in the terms of false positives and false negatives. Well, no false negatives this time, but look at the huge false positive count.
This isn't a good indication, because this is only a temporary solution. The whole idea behind this is to coerce the ISP into policing their users.
The blacklist is hoping that this move will convince the ISP to clean up its act. Once it does, it will be removed from the blacklist, and all of us will benefit. Anyone who spams through this ISP will spam for a couple of days, not a couple of years.
Some of you techno-toads need to get your head out of the web and realize that technology isnt the solution to EVERYTHING.. Not only does john law have the capability of breaking a lot of VPN's, but he doesnt really need to.
john law needs a supercomputer and a lot of time to break even 128-bit encryption. It's not worth his time to do this. He can't just push the button that says "I'm a cop" and start eavesdropping.
these guys storm offices and houses, they pull you from your keyboard before you can lock it out, they have "agents" work the chat networks and so on, becoming "friends" and insiders of these "syndicates".
Sure...but how are they going to get a warrant to walk into your house if all your connections are encrypted? Reasonable suspicion won't get you a warrant these days, you need probable cause. Probable cause that you're not going to get from an encrypted connection.
Again, I speak for those of us in the US. I'm sure it's much different elsewhere.
Did they decide to extend the mission because people love following it and want to keep it going? Or are they extending it because they haven't found anything "big" to report on yet?
Whatever happens, I think they've found a lot of useful data that will take months to analyze. Hopefully they'll have continued success for as long as they keep the mission going. I look forward to seeing the final analyses from these observations.
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SSL, VPN, IPv6. They've all been around for a long time. Sure SSL is used quite a bit, but it's definitely not used the majority of the time. We've seen stats on the WiFi expos where you can pick off hundreds of POP passwords thanks to plaintext connections. It will be a long time (if ever) before this is even close to mainstream.
Can't we refine one and use it for all these different applications? Or are these different protocols content-specific? (i.e. some protocols are good with video, others are better with raw data?) I haven't seen anything showing this.
This is a crappy defense. Endusers need to become more aware of what's going on, and, at the same time, less capable of installing shit like this.
Can we say, Goooooooooooooooogle?
Seriously though, engineering firms have to consider things like this. It's common practice, and it's the reason that most people think as highly of engineers as they do. If your firm is selling this to a marketing firm, you should inform them of any ethics issues like this. In this project they're not really even analyzing it...they're just saying "this could be an issue."
If the beer pitcher is wireless, why can't the monitor be wireless too? The waiter/waitress could just carry around a "pager" that lit up a table number when the pitcher was empty. No sitting around. No lack of visibility. Just more efficient. (Granted, I'm sure there are drawbacks...to actually implement this thing you'd have to do more market analysis)
Now if some restaurant actually gets this, the first thing to do is figure out how to trick it. Then you can call your waiter/waitress whenever you need anything!
ALCOHOL ABUSE!!
Yes it's his right. But it's not his right to request it anonymously. You can do a lot of things that are legal, but will put you under suspicion of the FBI and Secret Service. This is only one example of many.
I still investigate anyone who tries gaining root, running sudo, or sending shellcode.
Now if you happen to be a network admin...maybe it will make more sense. If not, you're screwed.
Then the shit hit the fan and we're no longer the network of the free.
How many times does history need to repeat itself?
I was about to import it into my spam blacklist.
If you actually need more storage, you'll buy a harddisk.
This thing may be (somewhat) portable, but I rarely carry anything around that won't fit on a 256mb USB drive. Not to mention a DVD.
Anyone have a (moderately) good reason to need (or want) one of these?
Disclaimer: No, I'm not waiting 2 minutes for each of 7 pages to load so I can RTFA. The first page was more than enough for me.
This one will not be widely used by consumers if it has a light-weight tracking mechanism embedded in it. We'll simply use one of the others. Not to mention, there will always be players (and converters) that disable the tracking and convert to a more well-accepted format.
But maybe it's a step in the right direction. We'll see what becomes of it. My guess...absolutely nothing.
The obligations of the corporation to the government and the government to the corporation. Most of these are well-defined and well-documented. The corporation pays taxes on a lot of things, the customers pay taxes, and the employees pay taxes. The corporation must follow a variety of local and federal laws, many of which establish employee requirements (who can work for the company, how much they must get payed, what benefits they must be given, how they must be treated, etc).
Outside of these obligations, one can assume that each CEO has the moral obligation to look out for the good of his/her country. But this comes to an issue of stakeholders. Each CEO must consider all of these and decide which is better for him. These stakeholders include his own welfare, wealth, and family.
If you can do such a better job of sitting on your ass and paying yourself money, why don't you work your ass off and try to become a CEO? He didn't just get lucky...I can assure you whatever he did required either a lot of intelligence or effort, probably both. Quit wasting your time babbling and do what he did.
Woops, nevermind...
They aren't betrying, or betraying for that matter, their country. What obligations do they have to their country? They pay their taxes, provide products and services, and the US economy would be worse off if the company didn't exist at all.
They're certainly not betraying their people. By my estimation, "their people" are their stockholders. If their choices are outsource or lose to their competitors, there is no question. It's unfortunate, but what are they supposed to do?
No I'm not (even close to) a CEO, and no I don't have a solution to our unemployment problems.
Hey, I still have that 300 baud modem in my closet.
Let's face it, reading Slashdot and toying around with our machines are 10 times more educational than any conference or class we'll ever attend. While students need to pay attention the majority of the time, a little free time to educate themselves wouldn't hurt.
When TI finally releases a better calculator, I hope they also release an upgrade for the 89. After all, the hardware will be sufficient for a long time. With 700k+ memory and a good-sized processor (I think it's 33Mhz underclocked to 11Mhz), it should work very well for just about everything but non-linear differential equations and other extremely CPU-intensive operations.
When the time comes, all we will need is a firmware upgrade to keep it around for even longer without having to upgrade. I've used this calculator for 6 years now, and I recommend it to everyone looking for a high-performance calculator. I hope to try the new HP calculator so I can compare to the competition, but I just don't think I can set my 89 down after all this time. I know it all too well.
This isn't a good indication, because this is only a temporary solution. The whole idea behind this is to coerce the ISP into policing their users.
The blacklist is hoping that this move will convince the ISP to clean up its act. Once it does, it will be removed from the blacklist, and all of us will benefit. Anyone who spams through this ISP will spam for a couple of days, not a couple of years.
john law needs a supercomputer and a lot of time to break even 128-bit encryption. It's not worth his time to do this. He can't just push the button that says "I'm a cop" and start eavesdropping.
these guys storm offices and houses, they pull you from your keyboard before you can lock it out, they have "agents" work the chat networks and so on, becoming "friends" and insiders of these "syndicates".
Sure...but how are they going to get a warrant to walk into your house if all your connections are encrypted? Reasonable suspicion won't get you a warrant these days, you need probable cause. Probable cause that you're not going to get from an encrypted connection.
Again, I speak for those of us in the US. I'm sure it's much different elsewhere.
It doesn't save anything. When someone exploits this and takes out 90% of the Internet's routers, you're screwed no matter what.
It definitely makes a good argument for both OpenBSD and proactive security auditting. But it doesn't save the day.
And the news day just got a little slower now that the site is slashdotted...
This is the Munich district court. Any precedent set by this case won't affect most Slashdotters anyway.
Whatever happens, I think they've found a lot of useful data that will take months to analyze. Hopefully they'll have continued success for as long as they keep the mission going. I look forward to seeing the final analyses from these observations.