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Build Your Own Wireless Beer Pitcher Monitoring System

Willy K. writes "Technology comes to the rescue when disaster strikes and your pitcher runneth dry. These Cornell students have rigged up beer pitchers that wirelessly advertise to the central serving station when they are empty, prompting alert wait staff to bring another round." Add a few steins and you're all set.

184 comments

  1. Now all you need... by timmi · · Score: 5, Funny

    is an automated system to refill it!

    1. Re:Now all you need... by thedillybar · · Score: 2, Funny
      Oh no...drunk people spilling beer is bad enough. Malfunctioning machines spewing it everywhere?

      ALCOHOL ABUSE!!

    2. Re:Now all you need... by Sfing_ter · · Score: 1

      It's in the code: //contains initialization and the system statemachine

      void main(void)

      { //refill will be set to 0 initially //when the angle reaches 85 degrees the refill signal will be set and the

      waitstaff will be alterted //after it is set to 1 print message and then set back to 0

      lcd_init(LCDwidth); //initialize the display
      --------
      then later it goes to...
      --------
      else if(systemState == refill) begin

      refillState();

      end

      I think i found a new sig!

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    3. Re:Now all you need... by flyneye · · Score: 1

      just when all i thot i needed was duct tape.

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    4. Re:Now all you need... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is the stein you need: http://www.kleinbottle.com/drinking_mug_klein_bott le.htm

    5. Re:Now all you need... by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

      Automated? Hell no. This would be perfect for the next computer game playing adapted to real life!

      Who's up for a game of Tapper?

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  2. Hahahaha by (1337)+God · · Score: 4, Funny

    In combination with this earlier pizza story from tonight, this should make for an interesting evening!

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    1. Re:Hahahaha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      soooo.... you're thinking that some waitress is going to come to your house to serve you beer with your pizza? or maybe you're planning on ordering pizza in a bar? dude, you order pizza at home and this gizmo works if you're in a bar. they don't go together.

    2. Re:Hahahaha by devilspgd · · Score: 1

      It depends on how shitty the bar's food is...

      I've ordered pizza at one bar, the owner said it was cool as long as we got enough for the staff.

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  3. In taverns, I find.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...that a cut-down shotgun get's the attention of the bar staff..

    1. Re:In taverns, I find.... by trg83 · · Score: 1

      I'm guessing you mean sawed-off?

  4. Wow something useful by WordODD · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is probably the most useful "college student" invention post I have seen on the front page of Slashdot in a long time. As a former bar manager this would be something I would purchase with very few refinements. If this ever goes past the "gee thats neat stage" and becomes a real product it could be a must have for numberous establishments.

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    1. Re:Wow something useful by MikeDawg · · Score: 2, Funny

      Next step past this invention would be a cocktail waitress that would actually pay attention to your/your "buddy" bars orders and drinking needs.

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    2. Re:Wow something useful by Some+Bitch · · Score: 1

      My main worry would be how they plan to survive hundreds of runs through the glass washer.

    3. Re:Wow something useful by tverbeek · · Score: 2, Funny
      My main worry would be how they plan to survive hundreds of runs through the glass washer.

      That wouldn't be a problem at the bar where I hung out in college.

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    4. Re:Wow something useful by dcw3 · · Score: 1

      As a former bar manager this would be something I would purchase with very few refinements.

      As a former bar manager, I think you'd be more concerned with how these devices would survive all your drunken customers.

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    5. Re:Wow something useful by smc13 · · Score: 1

      I wonder how it signals that they are done for the night? If it always signals for a refil when it is empty doesn't that mean you have to leave some beer in the pitcher on the last round?

    6. Re:Wow something useful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      These Cornell students have rigged up beer pitchers that wirelessly advertise to the central serving station when they are empty, prompting alert wait staff to bring another round.

      Alert wait staff doesn't need these gizmos to ask whether another round is in order. We call it 'service' around here. Besides, having a hot waitress stroll by to ask how everyones doing is much better than a wireless beer pitcher.

  5. How is this so different? by MikeDawg · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How is this so dramatically different from the author's previous stated stein post? Does the original story differ that much from stein to pitcher? You'd think the original empty stein could be very easily modified to fit on to a pitcher, and voila! a wireless pitcher that would notify bar personnel that your pitcher is empty.

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    1. Re:How is this so different? by DrSchlock · · Score: 3, Informative

      It's a different way of solving the same problem, and a reasonably clever one at that. Each idea has its points; the original capacitance method is cheaper, as the authors observe, but it also doesn't work well with viscous fluids that cling to the side of a container and conduct electricity around its circumference.

    2. Re:How is this so different? by BuckaBooBob · · Score: 1

      if I remember right the Stien also had built in cooling

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  6. I've got a system... by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 4, Funny

    it's called living in Vegas. The only place where "last call" even exists are in "family" establishments.

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    1. Re:I've got a system... by sugar+and+acid · · Score: 1

      I unfortunatly live in Michigan that has a 2.00 am pub closing rule. Most states bordering have at least a 4.00 am closing I think. At the same time the state governer is now thinking about why their cities aren't seen as "hip" cities. I know closing hours aren't the whole story, but it tells alot about the attitude of the Michigan. Detroit is the birth place of techno, yet officially no club can open past 2:00pm. Conversly no head-line dj from around the worl usually come on on till at least 1:30 am in most places in the world.

    2. Re:I've got a system... by Jardine · · Score: 1

      Don't forget that the drinking age in Ontario (right across the border) is 19. Last call time for alcohol is still 2am, but all the 19 and 20 year olds who can't legally drink in Detroit head to Windsor. And they bring their over 21 friends with them.

    3. Re:I've got a system... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      State regulated bar closing times are usually based upon the false premise that earlier closing times correlate with lower alcohol-related traffic deaths.

      The statistics don't support such a premise.

      This is probably because every bar in every part of the US that has a closing time will always loudly announce their "Last call" for alcohol. Thus, 15 minutes before patrons are kicked out onto the streets and (likely) into their automobiles, there is surge of alcohol sales.

  7. People drink beer?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Why the very thought of anyone drinking such a low class beverage has CAUSED MY MONOCLE TO POP RIGHT OUT! And really, who drinks beer in this day and age anyway? Everyone should drink only expensive wine and scotch.

    Why just the other day my chauffer took a wrong turn off of the freeway and pulled me past this run down little liquor store where this shabby looking man (who by the way was driving a Pontiac! A PONTIAC!!!) who hadn't shaved for a couple of days was walking out with a bottle of Johnny Walker Red. RED LABEL?! I exclaimed, exhaling a puff of cigar smoke and tipping my top hat back in a bemused manner. WHO ARE THESE CRETINS? I practically had my driver phone the police right then and there..

    1. Re:People drink beer?!? by kclittle · · Score: 1
      Quick, how do you pronounce "Islay"? "Laphroaig"? "Lagavulin"?

      Thought so -- you're a bloody ENGLISHMAN! Pooh!

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    2. Re:People drink beer?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pontiac is a fine automobile. During the late 60's early 70's everyone feard The Judge. And to add to this, I drink scotch. hell I am drinking scotch right now, black label is the name dumbass. Its the kind I am drinking. LOL "Johnnie Walker Black Label Old Scotch Whisky"
      Shits expensive round here. 18.99 for 375ml :(

    3. Re:People drink beer?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      God damn, and thast USD?

    4. Re:People drink beer?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah, but only because its a fucking mini-mart that sells it. The nearest local store with scotch is 45 miles away from this podunk town.

    5. Re:People drink beer?!? by Charles+Dart · · Score: 1

      Dude that was funny!, you should not have done that anon, I would have added you to my friends list.

    6. Re:People drink beer?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm in canada, specifically in a prvince that uses the "liquor store" techqnique, and 26 ounces of whisky is 20$ CDN, about 17$ US. In the provinces without liquer stores it's even cheaper.

    7. Re:People drink beer?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      exhaling a puff of cigar smoke

      and I sniffed and said Macanudo? a DOMINICAN?!! Who smokes Dominicans? WHO ARE THESE CRETINS? I grabbed my straight up Havana Montecristo and sighed. That's when Howard Dean showed up and was like YEEEAAAAIIIIIIGGHHHHHHH!!!!

  8. Article Text by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Introduction

    We created a wireless device to affix to the bottom of a pitcher that alerts the wait staff when the pitcher is empty.

    We used the a priori knowledge that when a pitcher is empty the pitcher’s bottom is perpendicular to the ground. By affixing an accelerometer to the bottom of a pitcher we can detect the angle of the bottom in relation to the ground. There is a direct correlation between the maximum angle the pitcher has reached and the volume still in the pitcher. We use this fact to monitor the pitcher’s volume through a wireless connection. The signal from the accelerometer is transmitted at 433MHz directly from the pitcher to the server station. The server station consists of an LCD and an array of control buttons that reset the meter, change the table number, and reset the pitcher count.

    High Level Design

    Rationale

    Our decision to create the beverage monitor for our project was due to a combination of factors. The stroke of genius came when Erin remembered hearing about a bar in Japan that implemented a system that alerted the wait staff of when an individual’s drink was empty. This appealed to us for 2 main reasons. Matt recalls many nights frequenting a local bar, The Royal Palms. All too often he was unable to locate a waitress and place an order before last call. His frustration along with Erin’s desire to create a potentially marketable and original project gave birth to the implementation of the beverage monitor.

    Background Math

    We monitored the tilt of the pitcher using the duty cycle output of our accelerometer. The MCU measures the rising edge pulse width, T1, and the total length of the duty cycle, T2. The acceleration is calculated by the following equation:

    Then the arcsine of the acceleration is taken to find the angle of the tilt. This angle correlates to the volume of the pitcher.

    In order to minimize the influence of invalid angle readings as a result of the wireless connection, Professor Land showed us a simple low pass filter to use:

    Y(t) is the calculated angle, x(t) is the current angle reading, and y(t-1) is the previously calculated angles. The parameter α was determine through trial and error during testing.

    Logical Structure

    Our overall project design can be reduced to three specific states that can be seen in the state diagram below. The first state, the state entered at the beginning of the programs execution, is the Set Table state. In this mode the wait staff can select the table that they are serving. The selection is made by using two buttons, one to increment the table number and one to decrement it. Once the correct table is selected, the enter button is hit and the program then goes into Monitor mode. In this mode the wireless device on the pitcher sends the signal from the accelerometer to the server station. At the server station, the wait staff can see the number of the table being served and how many rounds have been served to the table. There is also a status bar showing the status of the pitcher’s volume. The MCU at the server station uses the signal from the pitcher to calculate its volume. In this state, there is a reset button in case a different table is about to be served. Unless the reset button is pressed, the program will stay in this state until the pitcher is empty. Once the signal indicated the pitcher is empty, the last state, the Refill state, is entered. Here the server station indicates that the table needs a refill. Once the wait staff refills the pitcher they press the enter button and the project returns to the Monitor state, and the additional round is indicated on the display. The reset button can also be used in the Refill state if the table decides not to go for another pitcher.

    Hardware/Software Tradeoffs

    When we implemented the receiver and transmitter our results were less than perfect. The problems occurred as a result of noise and antenna related issues. There were both h

  9. Hmmm by stevenbdjr · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Funny, I always thought that was the job of a good bar maid...

    1. Re:Hmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      BEER WENCHES dude.

    2. Re:Hmmm by Sethus · · Score: 1

      Everyone has their own fetish. (I prefer the mountain dew hoe, as a friend of mine had at a lan party of his)

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    3. Re:Hmmm by Jerf · · Score: 1

      Show me the bar maid that checks the status of the pitcher once per second (if I'm reading the FA correctly) and I'll agree this is an unnecessary innovation.

      "In the life-or-death field of bar tending, seconds count." - sounds like a pitch for ER meets Cheers.

  10. I have an idea... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What about just using a simple mercury switch that is tripped when the pitcher is tipped to a certain point?

    1. Re:I have an idea... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Simple? Was there a complex kind?

    2. Re:I have an idea... by OtakuHawk · · Score: 4, Interesting

      In some states mercury tilt switches are illegal because of thier applications in bomb making. No joke.

    3. Re:I have an idea... by Hawke666 · · Score: 1

      Wow, does that override their applications in thermostats?

    4. Re:I have an idea... by randyest · · Score: 1

      Which states? Citation please!

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    5. Re:I have an idea... by jea6 · · Score: 1

      Maybe he meant to say: In some states it is illegal to use a mercury switch in making bombs. I found plenty of references to that! :-)

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    6. Re:I have an idea... by NeoPotato · · Score: 1

      In Indiana, you can't sell products containing mercury tilt switches to anyone under 18, including thermostats.

      We built a broom balance for Operation Catapult and our project advisor had to buy us two thermostats so we could get the tilt switches.

      Oh, and watch out when you're soldering leads onto those bastards - I overheated mine and cracked the glass. Our chem labs were glad to dispose of the mercury for us.

  11. Dupe? by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 3, Funny
    So since this is a dupe, do they bring you two pitches of beer?

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    1. Re:Dupe? by Charles+Dart · · Score: 1

      ...you two pitches of...

      yeah you had dem awwitge!


      ;)

  12. complicateed? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    The server station consists of an LCD and an array of control buttons that reset the meter, change the table number, and reset the pitcher count. So now I need an engineering degree just to serve beer?

    1. Re:complicateed? by jskiff · · Score: 1

      Good lord. I have tough enough time working electronic devices after a few pints. Refilling pitcher number three could be a +serious+ challenge...

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  13. Overkill? by MBCook · · Score: 4, Interesting
    It's interesting and all, but isn't it overkill? I mean they are using an accelerometer! Couldn't a simple CDS photocell detect when the thing is empty based on the ammount of light filtering through what's left of the beer? Seems like it would be simple to calibrate. Just take one, fill it up with the maximim ammount of beer before a refill is called for (since you may have a tiny bit left when it's still "empty"). Set it on a table and press a button, it's callibrated. Even a simple mercury switch could probably be set up to do this reliably without needing an accelerometer. And if you were willing to permantly modify the container, you could do more like a small float, tiny bits of metal on the side so you could use conductivity to figure it out, a pressure sensor (beer weighs more than air), etc.

    I'm not denying that their idea works, it just seems there is probably an easier (or at least cheaper) way.

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    1. Re:Overkill? by Peyna · · Score: 1

      The amount of light filtering through would be affected by the type of beer (light or dark) or if it even was beer. There method does not depend on the contents of the pitcher.

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    2. Re:Overkill? by ejaw5 · · Score: 1

      I'd imagine that unless you're serving very dark beer, using a simple photocell or light sensor would be difficult...seeing how ambient light can vary within an indoor environment such as a bar.

      You could use an electro-optical fluid level sensor (such as shown here: http://www.gemssensors.com/electrooptical.htm) but it would most certainly bring the total cost of the project higher. (Gems Sensors cost between $20-$300+ at Digikey)

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    3. Re:Overkill? by randyest · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I disagree; it's underkill.

      They had a 2D accelerometer that could measure in X and Y directions, but used a pitcher to force a given plane of tilt (determined by the handle/spout axis) and just looked at the X reading, ignoring Y.

      They should use both measurements and put it on regular drinking glasses as well -- the same device would work on a pitcher, glass, or most drinking containers no matter what orientation (within the X-Y, or horizontal plane) it was mounted. Their system needs the "X" axis of the accelerometer to be parallel with the line connecting the handle and spout. And it requires a specific tilt plane.

      It would be easy to duplicate code and check both angles, and this would be particularly good for me as I prefer Sapphire and tonic to beer, and a pitcher of gin & tonic would be very dangerous. A promptly-filled (or at least opportunity to fill) glass of said refreshment would be highly appreciated. This is a very good idea indeed, and I think with minor refinement this could be sold all over the world at huge profits. Bars make money. Keeping drinks filled makes them more.

      It also probably means (a few) more drunks and a slight hike in alcoholism, but, eh, whatever :)

      BTW, I've seen the "similar" systems in Japan referenced in the article as inspiration. But the ones I saw required you to actually move a finger and push a button when you wanted a drink. Effective, but usually unnecessary since service in Japanese eating and drinking establishments is remarkably and consistintly good, IME.

      I disagree with the other poster who suggested that somehow weighing the beer pitcher is simpler than this accelerometer method. Accelerometers are cheap, small, reliable, and easy to work with compared to weight-measurement devices.

      Finally, someone else said to use an electronic switch closed by beer (beer being the conductor) that senses lack of beer when the switch opens. Cheaper yes, but I'm not sure how passing (even a small) current through beer would make it taste, but I bet one (or both) of the terminals of the switch would be a corroded nightmare after a few weeks. Cleaning that would be a bitch, and it would look gross.

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    4. Re:Overkill? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Couldn't a simple CDS photocell detect when the thing is empty based on the ammount of light filtering through what's left of the beer?
      You've never been in a bar, have you?
    5. Re:Overkill? by dcw3 · · Score: 1

      Even a simple mercury switch could probably be set up to do this reliably without needing an accelerometer.

      Do you really believe that the FDA would allow mercury anywhere near something that's going to be consumed...DOH!

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    6. Re:Overkill? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I happen to be their TA in this class so I have a little insider info....

      It would be trivial to send both X and Y but there were always wireless problems in the lab. Personally, I tried to force all wireless groups in the class to adopt a strict encoding scheme to avoid interference problems but only one group listened. Given a bit more time that would definitely be implementable.

    7. Re:Overkill? by b!arg · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Or how about putting a button at the table that says "Beer Me" when your done and forget the pitcher altogether. You know, like the flight attendant button. :)

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  14. Excuse me, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    How is this different from shouting WERE OUTTA BEER! at the top of your lungs?

    1. Re:Excuse me, but... by zalas · · Score: 2, Funny

      Nice idea! ...so we should find some way to pack 4 seconds of digital audio into these little Atmel chips, connect up some DACs, feed it into a nice bridged amplifier and speaker, and voila!

  15. Beer Pitcher? by Intocabile · · Score: 3, Funny

    I like my beers handed to me not thrown.

  16. Unlicensed amateur radio operation! by VT_hawkeye · · Score: 4, Informative

    As a former ham (still got the license, but haven't done anything with it in years), it's kinda depressing to see that they don't even know what amateur radio is -- which led them to illegally use the 70-cm UHF band, thinking "amateur" meant "do whatever you want".

    They needed a frequency in an unlicensed or research/experimental band.

    1. Re:Unlicensed amateur radio operation! by jcwren · · Score: 4, Informative

      They didn't illegally use 70cm. There is a specific allocation for 433MHz for low power equipment. Radiometrix, and a bunch of others all make perfectly legal transmitters for this allocation.

      I believe the 433MHz is secondary or teritiary use. The Europeans equivalent is 419MHz

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  17. I'm sorry sir you're bladdered... by h0tblack · · Score: 3, Funny

    We used the a priori knowledge that when a pitcher is empty the pitcher's bottom is perpendicular to the ground..... There is a direct correlation between the maximum angle the pitcher has reached and the volume still in the pitcher.
    Could this be modifed to:
    We used the a priori knowledge that when a punter is full the punter's bottom is parallel with the ground..... There is a direct correlation between the maximum angle the punter has reached and the volume still in the pitcher.
    Could be a good way to easily tell when you've had to much ;)

    1. Re:I'm sorry sir you're bladdered... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I believe they meant
      a posteriori knowledge.

  18. Tips by KalvinB · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I recognize the fact that I'm in college and don't tend to spend a lot of money on food so I over tip (sometimes the amount of the meal) when the (usually) waitress does a good job. At places like Chili's or Ruby Tuesday's a plate usually doesn't go much over $7. 15% is barely a $1.00. She does pretty much the same amount of work regardless of how expensive my plate is so I usually don't tip less than $5. I've also worked food service so I know what the job is like.

    This is nice for personal parties when there's a lot going on but it's not encouraging to patrons who busted their ass all day and now get to watch the waitresses or whoever sit in the back getting paid to watch the beer indicator.

    When I worked as a host for birthday parties at a kid's pizza place, the pitchers where the excuse to keep myself visible to the parents and active in the party in order to get a larger tip. You fill the pitchers before they become empty and while you're doing that you talk to the parents and see what else you can do for them.

    In the food business that's the way it works. The more involved with the customers you are, the better the tip. So although a nice novelty, it could have a negative impact on the tip for those who use it to try to make their job "easier."

    Ben

    1. Re:Tips by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I prefer to just stick a stack of ones on the table. Then every time they screw up I remove one. Every time they please me I put one back.

    2. Re:Tips by Nasarius · · Score: 1
      waitresses or whoever sit in the back getting paid to watch the beer indicator.

      Not really. Whenever you don't have something else to do, check the monitor. If someone needs a refill, go do it. No need for constant monitoring.

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    3. Re:Tips by thedillybar · · Score: 1
      No need for constant monitoring.

      If the beer pitcher is wireless, why can't the monitor be wireless too? The waiter/waitress could just carry around a "pager" that lit up a table number when the pitcher was empty. No sitting around. No lack of visibility. Just more efficient. (Granted, I'm sure there are drawbacks...to actually implement this thing you'd have to do more market analysis)

      Now if some restaurant actually gets this, the first thing to do is figure out how to trick it. Then you can call your waiter/waitress whenever you need anything!

    4. Re:Tips by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bah, us in the rest of the world only tip for good service. Hell working bar down here I get a measly $10/hr (US$5) and if I'm lucky, some punter will buy me a drink but they rarely tip.

      Even my girlfriend who used to do waitressing would get tipped maybe 1 in 10 tables.

      Mandatory tipping is the stupidest idea in the world, tip for great service but don't tip because you have to.

    5. Re:Tips by Some+Bitch · · Score: 1
      Mandatory tipping is the stupidest idea in the world, tip for great service but don't tip because you have to.

      Maybe you should learn how the US system works. Most serving staff are paid minimum wage but are assessed taxes based on an expectation of how much they will receive in tips which is in turn based on their total sales. The way this generally pans out is that their wage pays the tax bill and the tips are what they live on. If you don't tip then they served you for free.

      In reality, calling it a tip is wrong. It's a service charge but as a courtesy to you the consumer it is left to you to decide how much the service was worth. 20% is about right for good service (I'm a former bar manageress so my definition of 'good' is 'everything spot on') with exceptional service being rewarded depending on how much it enhanced your dining experience. If you're rather dull and on a date but the waitress laughs and jokes with you and makes you appear more interesting and amusing than you really are (a highly prized skill) then isn't that worth a little extra?

      Of course the converse also applies, you should pay less for poor service but only for the most appalling service should you pay nothing.

    6. Re:Tips by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the point they were trying to make is that a system that "requires" tipping makes absolutely no sense, especially when the general population does not understand the system in place. Hell, why is there even a separate system for paying and calculating their taxes... it makes absolutely no sense.

      All food service staff should be making at least the standard minimum wage defined for all workers and should be taxed in the same manner as the rest of the common workforce. Then, they can receive tips based upon how good the service was. The tips should NOT be required, but should be a bonus based upon how good the service was.

      I think your experience as a server is seriously clouding your judgment.

    7. Re:Tips by Azure+Khan · · Score: 1

      Ahh, but there you've run into the crux. If you paid the workers a standard salary, the amount that you would raise their pay to replace their tips would then need to be rolled into your pricing. And there is something ingrained in the standard American psyche that will balk at paying high prices for an ITEM, but would pay more for the ITEM plus TIP combined then they would have for the more expensive item in the first place. If you suddenly raised the prices of entrees by $2, but told people they didn't have to tip, even people who would normally tip $4 would balk, because Americans like that the tip is OPTIONAL. Trust me, I don't understand them either, and I'm one of them.

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  19. Your rights online? by momerath2003 · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is michael posting. Shouldn't this article be under YRO? I mean, think of the privacy applications of having a device monitor your beer consumption. Frankly, this is pretty frightening, and, though I may be putting on my tin foil hat here a bit, I think it's safe to say that this is another drastic setback for modern privacy rights.

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  20. I see an FCC problem here.. by the_rajah · · Score: 5, Informative

    From their web page: "The FCC sets aside frequencies between 420 MHz and 450 MHz for Amateur use, thus we are complying with the standard by transmitting our signal at 433MHz." IAHRO (I'm a ham radio operator - for 46 years.) It is fine to transmit on 433 MHz IF they have an FCC license and the transmitter identifies it's call sign at the proper interval. Otherwise, it's not legal.

    Amateur radio does not mean unlicensed. Getting a license is very easy. Check with your local ham radio club for details or visit http://www.arrl.org/

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    1. Re:I see an FCC problem here.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why is it that everyone takes an issue so seriously on here, these students did this for a laugh! Probably the last thing in their minds are FCC ruling's on wireless transmissions, if they were going to market it then yeah, understood!

    2. Re:I see an FCC problem here.. by djplurvert · · Score: 4, Informative

      First of all, I too am a ham and hold a "new" extra ticket in case anyone cares.

      Many hams seem to not understand Part 15 which allows unlicensed operation in almost ANY part of the spectrum. In particular, there are only a very few specific frequency ranges where "intentional radiation" governed by part 15 is not allowed. This simply means that you are building a device which is intended to be a transmitter as opposed to being one accidentally. Computers, for example, transmit accidentally and are therefore goverened by part 15.

      There are also specific ranges, such as those used by wireless phones and 802.11b, where there are bands set aside with specific restrictions on power, antenna size, etc.

      Even if there is no such range in the 430mhz band one can still use that band as long as you restrict the field strength of your transmitter to 200 microvolts/meter measured at a distance of three meters from the antenna. From a practical perspective this is a transmitter that if placed inside a small building probably would not radiate significantly beyond the walls of the building.

      Part 15 transmission should not intefere with licensed transmissions and hams are very protective of their hard won spectrum space. Thus hams seem to frequenly speak out against unlicensed usage even when it might not be warrented as they have experienced significant inteference and spectrum space loss over the years. While it doesn't necessarily sound like this is inappropriate use of 430mhz, whenever you are operating close to ham bands it would behove you to be sure you are operating within the bounds of the law. Not becuase "it's the law", but because hams are very protective and self-policing and you are more likely to get a complaint than if you are in one of the specific part-15 ranges.

      On the other hand, the comments on here that suggest it's no big deal to cause interference seem to reflect the general ignorance of slashdot in regards to radio/electronics. Before you start talking about "leaky transmitters" sic, and rules you have never read, perhaps you should go read a book or two on the subject.

      /plurvert

    3. Re:I see an FCC problem here.. by walter_wpg · · Score: 1

      This student design project uses off-the-shelf radio modules (one transmitter, one receiver), manufactured by Radiotronix. The transmitter would have been tested and certified by the manufacturer, so that it is meeting appropriate frequency and RF power levels. 433MHz is commonly used for things like wireless garage door openers, so this project is a similar application. The statement that the students made about the 420-450MHz band wasn't really accurate.

  21. My Wireless Beer Pitcher Monitor by KalvinB · · Score: 1

    is my eyeballs.

    If I see it's empty, I fill it.

    Ben

  22. This is useless... by sugar+and+acid · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...as real pubs don't have wait staff, they have bar staff who you ask for a new jug/pitcher from when and if you need one. If y

    The most annoying though is guys in the toilet in some bars that are there for the sack of tips. I mean really I know how to wash my hands, and dry them to. The're only reason as far as I can see is to basically squirt soup on my hands and after washin my hands to dry with paper towels, and then for me to give a tip for a task I could have completed in half the time if I had done it by myself. In fact I consider very tacky for a bar to do this, it insults the intellgence and cleanliness of its clients.

    1. Re:This is useless... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pretty damn useless, I say. Who wants soup squirted on their hands? I sure don't!

    2. Re:This is useless... by AngstAndGuitar · · Score: 1

      First, may I assume that you are in the UK?
      I've noted (with disgust) that the majority of men in the US fail to wash their hands after using the privy.
      While it is certainly quite insulting to have someone there to make sure you wash...
      Perhaps it's nice to know that the unclean bastards were forced to wash.
      Just my US $.02...

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    3. Re:This is useless... by Jardine · · Score: 3, Funny

      a task I could have completed in half the time if I had done it by myself.

      I think I've figured out the problem. You're not getting drunk enough. That guy in the bathroom is there to let you know which one of the two sinks you see is the real one.

    4. Re:This is useless... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then again, maybe people in the US are just capable of not pissing on themselves.

    5. Re:This is useless... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      if you touch your penis you wash your hands. it shouldn't make a difference if you piss on yourself or not.

    6. Re:This is useless... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      You know, many ladies (and a few men) actually put their MOUTHS on penises directly. The penis is no dirtier than any other body part.

  23. If you're in the US by KalvinB · · Score: 1

    the bartender is already watching how much you drink. They're required to do so by law. If a patron gets drunk in your bar and goes out and kills somebody because of their drunkeness, the bar can be held liable.

    There's also a beer drinking indicator called a "tab." It's this piece of paper that keeps track of how many drinks you've had and how much you owe the place.

    Ben

    1. Re:If you're in the US by momerath2003 · · Score: 1

      I guess you couldn't tell I was writing satire: usually michael tends to waaay over-exaggerate things in the privacy department. Usually half the stuff he posts has nothing to do with privacy but he puts it under "YRO" anyway along with some ridiculous troll/spin.

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    2. Re:If you're in the US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Would you rather /. succomb to teh PC illness aflicting teh major media outlets?

    3. Re:If you're in the US by grazzy · · Score: 1

      If a patron gets drunk in your bar and goes out and kills somebody because of their drunkeness, the bar can be held liable.

      US only, where freedom is about taking pictures of your naked pow's.
      God, what a wonderful country, I'm eagerly waiting for my greencard from the lottery.

  24. Hmm... by physicsphairy · · Score: 5, Funny
    Build Your Own Wireless Beer Pitcher Monitoring System

    Well, I guess that's definitely a step forward from the (now) antequated "Plug-in Beer Pitcher Monitoring System." Sure, you can get around the bar if you bring an extension cord, but don't spill your beer on any open leads. Drunk geeks make excellent ground connections.

  25. old news by js3 · · Score: 1

    didn't they have one of these things that notified about the coke machine being empty pre-dot-com-boom?

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  26. All one beer. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    There is no beer "inside" my stein.

  27. One word: by momerath2003 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Wife.

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  28. YES by thecanadian · · Score: 0

    Yes now i dont have to walk up satirs

  29. Had to know this was coming by AvantLegion · · Score: 5, Funny
    Much like the invention of the sword required the invention of the sheath, or the invention of the engine required the invention of the brakes...

    ... the invention of the CLI pizza interface requires the invention of the wireless beer pitcher monitor!

  30. Messure weight by DigiShaman · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That's all you have to do. Just messure the decrease in weight. Why do they have to make it anymore complicated in it needs to be? *sigh*

    KISS everyone. Keep It Simple Stupid

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    1. Re:Messure weight by snooo53 · · Score: 1

      Speaking of which, know of any low cost electronic scales?

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    2. Re:Messure weight by Cryect · · Score: 1

      Better solution I would say to setup a simple electrical connection that is connected when the liquid is above certain level. Maybe a small amplifier to better detect the signal but nothing too fancy really.

    3. Re:Messure weight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Check eBay. There's tons of people selling electronic scales.

    4. Re:Messure weight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With all the foam and stuff the pitcher doesn't get exactly dry on the inside...

  31. Why is drinking automatically bad? by zymurgy_cat · · Score: 2, Interesting

    From the project site:

    1. Accept responsibility in making engineering decisions consistent with the safety, health and welfare of the public, and to disclose promptly factors that might endanger the public or the environment. We realize that our project could appear to be unsafe because it encourages drinking and the continuation of purchasing beverages.

    Why must everything involving alcohol (at least in the US) automatically assume at one point or another that drinking = bad? All this does is let you (or rather, the wait staff) know your pitcher is empty for a refill. I fail to see how it "encourages" excessive drinking (which is implied). When I go to a restaraunt and the waiter/waitress asks if I'd like a beer, is he/she "encouraging" me to drink excessively? Is he/she "encouraging" me to drink excessively when asking if I want another beer when my current beer is almost empty?

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    1. Re:Why is drinking automatically bad? by thedillybar · · Score: 2, Insightful
      This is a class, and they're required to talk about the ethics involved. Of course they're going to make up some bullshit to convince the graders that they thought about it and spent a lot of time on it.

      Seriously though, engineering firms have to consider things like this. It's common practice, and it's the reason that most people think as highly of engineers as they do. If your firm is selling this to a marketing firm, you should inform them of any ethics issues like this. In this project they're not really even analyzing it...they're just saying "this could be an issue."

    2. Re:Why is drinking automatically bad? by morzel · · Score: 1
      Why must everything involving alcohol (at least in the US) automatically assume at one point or another that drinking = bad?
      Perhaps because it actually is?

      I'm aware that this may sound inflammatory, but technically alcohol is a hard drug -- ie: you get physiologically (?) addicted to it. Even though it is a socially accepted drug, my guess is that it causes more trouble than all other drugs combined, with the exception of perhaps nicotine/cigarettes. So a 'caveat emptor' is definitely in place...

      The only reason this is is noted on the project site though is because this is part of an assignment, and they are scored on safety and ethics too. (They wouldn't have built the damn thing if they couldn't test it themselves, ofcourse ;-)

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    3. Re:Why is drinking automatically bad? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, they did spend a lot of time on it... I'd know because I am their lab TA. The ethics section was forced onto all groups by the instructor.

  32. Something on the mind by jimmy+page · · Score: 2, Funny

    Seems like Michael has something on his mind. First the Command Line Pizza and now the Auto Replenish Beer.

    Guesses for next subject - Barf Bags, Taxi Rides Home, Diet Trends?

    1. Re:Something on the mind by ruiner13 · · Score: 1
      No, duh, "computer automated CLI glass water bong fabrication".

      HAL:~ bob$ pulltube -length=28 -diam=3 -R
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      today is spelling optional day.

  33. Solid! by Saeed+al-Sahaf · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now this is a solid Slashdot story. None of this duplication bullshit, none of this silly Microsoft vs. Linux garbage. True technology by geeks for geeks. News for nerds that matters.

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  34. That chic is hot! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think we all wish our lab partners were as hot as this chic!!!
    Now we know the true intentions for the beer pitcher project!

    *shameless pickup line* Hot chic...if you read this, email me!!!! I like beer too!

    1. Re:That chic is hot! by momerath2003 · · Score: 2, Funny

      No one can email you if you post as AC and don't leave any sort of identification or email...

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    2. Re:That chic is hot! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you really want her email, phone number, etc., just search her name on the university's website

    3. Re:That chic is hot! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude, that's not a chick

    4. Re:That chic is hot! by dspyder · · Score: 1

      [Never reply to an AC]...

      I'll give you a hint (and save you the 1:43s it took me), her middle name is Elsie and I hate public directories. A quick email to eem24 might get you a date, but I highly highly doubt it.

      --D

    5. Re:That chic is hot! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My girlfriend is hotter than that skank.

  35. blah..Larry Niven! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Niven thought of that idea'r a longggg time ago, son.

    ok, back to my yak tending...MMMM Yaks!

  36. That's what I get... by VT_hawkeye · · Score: 1

    ... for not paying attention these past few years. Good info.

    73 de KD4MAB

  37. Another improvement by Guernica+Bill · · Score: 3, Funny

    These "college students" forgot one thing. They need to tweak that trigger angle. Never wait til the pitcher's completely empty to order the next one. Sheesh. Kids these days . . .

  38. An alternate solution... by DrSchlock · · Score: 4, Informative

    The same problem can also be solved by measuring capacitance of the glass across the remaining fluid. (I don't really understand this, but I'm believe it's fairly simple.)

    The article references this, in fact.

    http://www.merl.com/projects/iGlassware
    1. Re:An alternate solution... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That article about the capacitive measurement of fluid in glasses or pitchers also got slashdotted a couple of years ago, and printed up in Wired. One of the creators, Bill Yerazunis, also was the shorter, lab-coated team leader in the American Junkyard Wars, and was quoted telling his team member piloting the submarine in the British Junkyard Wars that If you move your legs, I will break them.

      He's a bit of a character....

  39. Alert Staff by LanceTaylor · · Score: 1
    ...prompting alert wait staff to bring another round

    If the wait staff was alert, then you wouldn't need the pitcher to tell them it was empty!

  40. Stealing Japanese technology... by RanBato · · Score: 1

    This is not a new invention. Mitsubishi Electric has done this before: iGlassware

    The Japanese version does not require batteries in the glasses or pitchers.

    1. Re:Stealing Japanese technology... by DrSchlock · · Score: 1

      It *is* (apparently) a new invention; it happens to address the same problem, but in an entirely different way. The Cornell students measure pitcher tilt, MERL measures electrical capacitance.

    2. Re:Stealing Japanese technology... by AngstAndGuitar · · Score: 1
      If you had read the first article, you would find that it was a US based lab that invented this, Japanese Company's YYY, but American brains (of course, American doesn't imply race, they could be Japanese-Americans, or any other race of American.) I'm sorry, but the Japanese have a pattent on stealing tech.
      Mitsubishi Electric Research Laboratories in Cambridge, Massachusetts, US.
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  41. Hah by runderwo · · Score: 1
    #define begin {
    #define end }

    OMFG. Are these guys for real? What's next:

    #define procedure void

    Or better yet
    #define := =
    #define = ==

    1. Re:Hah by ciroknight · · Score: 1

      eh... those damned { and } get nasty.. especially on my monitor (kinda tiny dpi, hard to tell { from ( and ) from } ).

      I kinda like their defines in this case. It makes it a bit more human readable, even if it's really unorthadox. Not that I'm gonna go change how I program, but it's always good to see someone else's art at work ;)

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    2. Re:Hah by zalas · · Score: 1

      That was actually from code provided by the professor of the class. The reason was that there were problems differentiating the square brackets from the curly ones in the font that was used in the IDE. The font basically differentiated the two by having one extra pixel for the curly braces. Personally I didn't need to use those defines, since I changed the font...

    3. Re:Hah by cibus · · Score: 1

      A IDE that uses a default font where the [ and { look alike? Hmmm... sticking to my emacs here ;)

  42. More jobs going down the tube by vxvxvxvx · · Score: 2, Funny

    Great, so now instead of paying a person to make the rounds and ensure everyone has a supply of beer we can replace them with a machine. Whatever can't be outsourced..

    1. Re:More jobs going down the tube by CaptainTux · · Score: 1
      Great, so now instead of paying a person to make the rounds and ensure everyone has a supply of beer we can replace them with a machine.

      Umm, since it is usually the same person that walks around making sure everyone's mug is full and actually filling the mugs this will result in zero job losses. What it WILL result in is more efficiency and less time wasted by staff walking around looking for empty mugs to fill.

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      "Quality Custom Software and IT Services"
    2. Re:More jobs going down the tube by vxvxvxvx · · Score: 1

      More efficiency. You mean instead of constantly checking the pitchers, that person can do something else. You mean instead of hiring 5 people to maintain beer pitcher levels, they can hire 3 instead.

    3. Re:More jobs going down the tube by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      Yup. Or better yet, keep those 5 and watch how much faster the beer gets refilled then.

      More speed, more sales, more profit AND you can afford to keep the 5 employees.

      Just like those poor toll booth workers being replaced with FastLane (or EZ-Pass) tags, or all those caddies being replaced by golf carts.

      Or all the caligraphers being replaced by laser printers.

      Or all the poor buggy whip manufacturers, we all know what happened to them...

      Nothing like posting on the Internet about how much you hate technology...

  43. Re:MOD PARENT UP! by momerath2003 · · Score: 1

    $20 says that the parent AC is the same who wrote its parent.

    MOD UP PARENT? It's MOD PARENT UP.

    I do agree about the karma whoring though.

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  44. Accounting for vagueness by toothfish · · Score: 3, Insightful

    To be really useful, the notifiaction ought to take into account the temp of the beer (if it's room temp, it's probably not being actively drunk-- abandoned/empty/etc), weird angles on the bar table, and (most importantly) time (if it's 1:45, there are going to be a whole lot of beeping pitchers, but only a few will need refilling-- and those few will have to be refilled asap).

    The time thing is probably the most important-- maybe prioritize based on previous purchases or your local ABC laws, etc.

  45. USA = land of no personal responsibility by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You don't understand, here in the USA people have fallen into the mindset that personal responsibility is no longer to be practiced, and when something goes wrong, it is obviously someone else's fault. That's why you get people's moms suing video game companies because said company makes a game that's so "addictive", the son stays home all day and just plays the game.

  46. The real question is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who is the girl in the pictures? Can I buy her a couple beers? :>

  47. Re:Measure weight by DrSchlock · · Score: 1
    That's all you have to do. Just measure the decrease in weight. Why do they have to make it any more complicated in it needs to be? *sigh*

    It's not really that simple, though. You'd need some sort of force sensor in the bottom of a pitcher, like a spring. The problem is that the force would change all the time: when you lift and lower the pitcher (think of the force on your feet in an accelerating elevator), when it bangs on the table, when it tilts, etc. You could add some sort of timer to make sure the force decrease lasts a while, but now we're getting away from simplicity again. Plus wear and tear on the sensor would probably be rather high.

  48. The next step by Ty_Webb · · Score: 2, Interesting

    But does it advertise to the central server the precise brand or type of brew you were drinking?

    Oh the possibilities...

  49. My pitchers don't need batteries... by Tailhook · · Score: 1

    Why should yours?

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  50. I need a beer. by rice_burners_suck · · Score: 3, Funny
    This is an incredibly good idea. I think every bar needs to use these. Quick response and low latency is of critical importance when you're trying to get drunk.

    Now all we need is method and apparatus, er, that is, a solenoid-operated tap controlled through a command line utility that works in most UNIX shells, so we can refill our pitchers or glasses from our keyboard. It might look something like this:

    refill -v=pint -b=guinness

    (It would be similar to the Pizza Party utility advertised in another of /.'s stories posted tonight, except it would refill beer instead of ordering pizzas. The -b option would use a flat text file to map beer names to tap numbers for maximum convenience.)

    Then, we could create a beer glass or pitcher monitoring daemon, beerd, which would invoke refill every time the pitcher empties, sending as the -b argument the name of the beer with which beerd was originally invoked.

    I can see it already: U.S. Patent #287542384328092840234, Method and Apparatus for Refilling a Beer Pitcher or Glass Through a UNIX Command Line Utility, and U.S. Patent #234823084932842843492, Method and Apparatus for Providing a GUI Frontend to the Beer Refilling Command Line Utility. (The GNOME version would be called Geer, the KDE version would be called Keer, RMS would insist that names of beer should be changed to GNU/Guinness, etc.) And, needless to say, U.S. Patent #234823084932842843493, Method and Apparatus for Automatically Invoking the Beer Refilling Command Line Utility, After Optionally Displaying a Dialog Box that Reads, "Are You Sure You Want Another Pitcher, You've Already Had Ten Beers Tonight?" With The Yes And No Buttons Moving Around So The Drunk Can't Click On Them.

    Then, we'll sue Darl for infringing on our patents when he's drinking his depression away after SCO crashes and burns. (What a waste of perfectly good beer.)

    And as if this isn't enough, we'll invent Pay Per Drink, a system whereby you get a keg of Guinness and a tap installed in your home for free, and when you activate the tap, a charge will be made to your credit card through the Internet. Brings new meaning to DRM. But to make IRC conversations with your friends across the globe more interesting, you could download ebeerd, the Extended Beer Daemon, which would allow your friends to "buy you a beer" through the Internet, which would be dispensed through the tap at your house. Then, you can buy all your friends a round, from the comfort of everybody's home, with a single click. (GUI frontends for GNOME and KDE should be forthcoming for this one, as should a Jabber plug-in.)

    Hmmmmmmmm... All this talk about beer, I need to get me a drink. Lucky I have some Guinness around. :-)

    Guinness. Because friends don't let friends drink Lite Beer.

    (Astute readers might notice that a long time ago, I didn't like Guinness and made a lot of posts where I said so. In fact, for a while, my sig even said something to the effect of, "George Killian's Irish Red. Because friends don't let friends drink Guinness." So what's changed? I discovered the difference between Guinness Stout and Guinness Draught. I stopped drinking Stout, started drinking Draught, and that fixed the problem. Now I drink at least a pint every night. Oh, and by the way, Irish Red is really, really good!!!)

  51. No FCC problem by Dr.+Mu · · Score: 2, Informative

    Though I'm no regulatory expert in the matter, I've seen numerous unlicensed devices operating at 433 MHz. As long as they adhere to Part 15 of the FCC rules, they're likely okay.

    1. Re:No FCC problem by n6mod · · Score: 2, Informative

      There is in fact a section of part 15 (don't remember it now, sorry) that permits very, very low power transmission on VHF and UHF frequencies. Garage Door openers and the like. 433MHz has become popular for weather stations and similar devices.

      73 de N6MOD

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    2. Re:No FCC problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I remember right, you can transmit so long as it doesn't interfere with a licenced transmitter in the area. In rural areas, where there aren't many commercial stations, some people have low power radio stations that they run.

  52. IT lives! by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    It is this kind of innovation and creativity that will save American tech jobs.

    1. Re:IT lives! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is so far from IT...

    2. Re:IT lives! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is so far from IT...

      It was a joke

  53. Not all angles are covered... by Bill_Royle · · Score: 1

    "The angle of the pitcher is monitored and calculated within our code at a rate much greater than an individual could ever pour a beverage out of a pitcher, thus the speed and concurrency is sufficient."

    Clearly these folks haven't ever seen a beer pitcher fly out at about 360 degrees from a drunken frat boy's hand.

  54. Re:WHO GIVES A FLAMING FUCK? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    our jobs are being shipped en masse to India China and East Europe, and you're worrying about motherfucking BEER?

    If you drink enough beer, it does not matter if your job is offshored. After a few dozen drinks, you forget what a "job" is. Hell, maybe we can get Indians to drink their asses off also, and show up late for work. Even the playing field, or should I say, wobbling field.

  55. Not-so-new story by DigitalCrackPipe · · Score: 1

    Slashdot had the article a few months ago about a wireless beer mug monitoring system using additional equipment under the table. Maybe someone more industrious than me will include the link. I don't remember if it was related to this effort at all, but it's certainly related.

  56. Coffee was first by 12 years by Charles+Dodgeson · · Score: 1

    Anyone remember this? I remember running XCoffee when hanging out at CL ten years ago.

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  57. Thats it? by niktesla · · Score: 1

    Hope this doesn't sound too trollish, but this hardly seems like a challenging senior design project, but that may just be beacuse I've just finished working and demostrating our project: a shipping shock indicator which records acceleration and timestamp data in 3 axes for at least 5 days and is bluetooth enabled. We have over 2k of assembly code for our PIC16 microcontroller and a nice GUI written in C#. After our project, i just feel like I could knock their's out in a weekend, except for maybe the antenna issues. Anyhow that's my two Abe Lincoln protrait's worth, take it or leave it.

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  58. Plagiarisim by stendec · · Score: 4, Informative

    Funny how your post is so familiar.

    1. Re:Plagiarisim by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Plagiarisim.... by an AC?

      Yeah... he's stealing that accreditation for personal gain so bad. I am AC, and I often reuse my own material. And sometimes I use other ACs material because there is no difference between me or them posting it. I haven't used another creditied persons work yet, but I may. It's just a meme.

      If you are posting to get karma for an account, then you are posting for the wrong reasons.

  59. Oh man... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wireless beer....mmmmmm :P~~~~~

  60. you have a drinking problem when.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You invest so much time in something that only needs you to stand up and move your ass..., nice project though.

  61. finally good use of technology by Mantorp · · Score: 2, Funny

    the last few years have given us: blue teethed camera phones, wi-fi, gps, i-tunes, etc. All useless compared to this fine implementation of hi-tech that will benefit all of mankind for generations to come.

  62. Better Brazilian Beer Bringer by Gorimek · · Score: 1

    The best solution I've ever seen of this problem was the Rio restaurant that had a metered beer tap on every table. Not entirely unlike a gas pump.At the end of the meal you got a bill with the total amount of beer consumed at the table.

    Or so I assume. I can't really remember that part of the night very clearly.

    1. Re:Better Brazilian Beer Bringer by Cyno01 · · Score: 1

      Thats fuckin beautiful. Must have been a pain to install all that though, its bad enough running all the hoses from the kegs in the cooler in the basement up to the bar. Probably either a money saver (less wasted beer/every drop is payed for) or people buy more beer because its right there.

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      "Sic Semper Tyrannosaurus Rex."
  63. Punter? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Unamerican bastard.

  64. In real life... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    their business would have suffered.

    License-free operation on 433 MHz is only permitted under strict conditions of low power and periodicity.

    They did not know about either.

    The law is 47 CFR (code of federal regulations) which is the US telecommunications law. The part that dictates license free operation is part 15.

    http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/waisidx_03/47 cf r15_03.html

    There is a nice summary on page 5 of this
    http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/Device Doc/pr t1_2.pdf

    But with the beer and all it's a neat idea - so let's do it!

  65. A nice project, but... by UberDork · · Score: 1

    If the purveyors of beer really wanted to solve the problem this addresses, they could put more staff on (as others have said), or just install a 'service' button on each table/booth/whatever?

    It worked one time for the airline industry.

    Gee, I'm thirsty...

  66. Slashdot effect with beer pitcher? by prog99 · · Score: 2, Funny

    What if everyone finishes their pitcher at the same time, could we see the slashdot effect at the bar?

  67. Avast! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    And for pirate radio, visit http://www.arr!.org/

  68. Why not just to the bar you lazy shits? by NotZed · · Score: 1

    Well thats what you have to do in this part of the world anyway. None of this table service crap!

    And since you have to do it yourself, its pretty bloody easy to know when you need another one, you can see the bottom of your glass!

    --
    _ // `Thinking is an exercise to which all too few brains
    \\/ are accustomed' - First Lensman
  69. build your own ancient tonic/remedy at home? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    at a cost of only pennies per gallon? &, as if that wouldn't be enough, it monitors you?

    strange brew, that's good for you.

  70. Overkill? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Umm, isn't this a bit of overkill?

    Couldn't they accomplish this with a wireless connection attached to a scale?
    Attach the scale to the table, and have the scale report a refill need only when the scale registers the weight of the pitcher (+/-delta liquid weight)?

    Or, even better, how about a button with a wireless connection that pages your waitress for you?

  71. I miss college. by bwags · · Score: 1

    I remeber the talking breathalizer my lab partner and I made at Vandy engineering school in the late 80's. 6502 processor, alcohol sensor and the TI talking chip. Anyone else remember their senior design projects?

  72. evil #defines in source code by dinodipp · · Score: 1

    Im sorry but to use #define begin {
    is evil and shouldn't be used IMHO.
    I wonder why they decided to do that, i really hope that they doesn't teach that at cornell.
    That out of the way, i think it's a cool article and i would love if my local bar had it.

  73. No, sensible by Julian+Morrison · · Score: 1

    They used an assumption that always holds true. One way or another, a horizontal beer pitcher is empty. The other sensors have failure modes: locally bright light, beer sloshing away from the sensor, droplet left over on the sensor, apparent weight changes due to inertia, movement tripping the mercury switch.

  74. Wireless-shmireless by mi · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Why is not there a simple button on each table in each restaurant of more than 5 tables: "Excuse me, waiter, I need something".

    The cheapest thing to add, it would remove the irritation of having to catch the waiter's eye, and allow the waiter to know, everyone is fine without constantly looking at all tables.

    Airplanes had this for years, but I'm only aware of one restaurant, where such a system is in use.

    --
    In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
    1. Re:Wireless-shmireless by Jott42 · · Score: 1

      But there is! At least in one restaurant in Copenhagen, and it has had the buttons for at least 20 years. Button placed on a lamp over the table, in the same way as in airplanes. (Never seen them used though, service was excellent.)

    2. Re:Wireless-shmireless by mi · · Score: 1

      So, make that two restaurants...

      --
      In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
  75. Re:MOD PARENT UP! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    MOD PARENT UP

  76. Re:Measure weight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not really. You could have a double lining, with the pressure sensor between the two. And if you fed the output into an integrating circuit, it would ignore any small variations caused by picking up or putting down the pitcher, only tripping when the output stayed low for a "long" time.

  77. What happens when.... by maduro55 · · Score: 1

    your mug is spammed or hijacked? You know there are some evil bastards that would screw with your beers.