Can we please get cut and paste to work properly? If I copy in one program (say, Firefox) and try to paste into another (say, Thunderbird) if, heaven forbid, I close the first window my clipboard magically clears itself and I have to go find my data again.
I've noticed this in KDE, so if Gnome has this fixed, I haven't played with it.
Even now, if she updates completely (after getting rid of the spyware/adware/viruses junk) and stays up to date she'll be fine.
Clarification to my own post, by "fine" I mean until she downloads and installs more adware/spyware crap. Even a fully patched and updated PC will get adware or spyware on it if the malware is installed by clicking "yes" to something she shouldn't.
Consider this for a moment. Jane Boxwine buys a brand-new computer in 1999. It's a Pentium II 400 with 128MB RAM, 8MB HD, and Windows 98. She spends $2000 on it.
I say she's a sucker to begin with considering I bought a brand new computer in 1999/early 2000 that was a PIII 800Mhz, 128MB RAM, 7200 RPM 30GB hard drive and windows 98 for about that much or less and it was not top of the line.
Besides, I seriously doubt Windows 98 will fit on an 8MB hard drive straight off the CD.
Whoever sold that computer to her must have been laughing all the way to the bank.
On topic, and per the grandparent: This test just shows remaining Windows 98 users they should keep up to date or upgrade to XP.
If Ms. Boxwine would have kept up to date, she wouldn't have had the problems and wouldn't need to upgrade to Windows XP (or spend $100 on a slower OS for her PC). Jane's mistake was not keeping up to date. Even now, if she updates completely (after getting rid of the spyware/adware/viruses junk) and stays up to date she'll be fine.
On a side note, my company has had Windows 98 PCs on the open internet, no firewall, no updates (a few have IE5.5 SP2), and no antivirus running for years (restarted nightly now, they were just running and only restarted when they locked up or the power flickered) and they don't have any adware crap on them simply because they aren't used to browse the internet / check emails. This may be the exception to the rule, however:)
I'm sorry, but have you people been asleep for the last 5 years? I've never seen an ISP TOS that made any distinction between spam you sent direct from your box vs. mail you sent through their mailhub. This doesn't change anything.
Except that the spammers are sending through ISP servers using valid accounts and using ISP resources to submit their flood onto the world. Surely a clueful admin would notice the abundant cpu time/bandwidth being used to the point where it limits legitimate use?
Spammers already sign up for new accounts and then close them all the time. They are famous for it. ISPs either don't care or can't keep up.
Sure, free accounts. Hotmail, yahoo, among other free email providers. This would not stop those.
Of course this all assumes spammers even open the accounts themselves instead of using their zombies to send for them, like they're already doing. And don't talk about ISPs shutting those down easily. They can't/won't even do it for worms, which are a lot more dangerous.
I'm assuming that you're talking about trojaned boxes being stopped (as I don't think you're talking about trojaned email servers). Of course, if you would have followed my point in previous posts that email would be blocked from invalid servers (ie the zombie boxes), you wouldn't have brought this point up. If spammers are getting most of their email blocked, they'll try thier hardest to get around it.
As for police getting involved when it's a crime... are they getting involved now when spammers hijack machines and use them to send their mail?
Is that even a crime?
I was speaking of the credit card fraud used in signing up new accounts with ISPs. (You know, the ones that cost money as opposed to the free ones?)
If spammers are forced to use ISP email servers, they are also forced to use them under ISP rules. (ie must have a valid email address, must be a current user, must follow ToS, etc).
Its more difficult to change your email address when that email address is attached to a main account. I suspect ISPs will get annoyed when people are signing up for new accounts and then closing them all the time. They may even be banned from opening a new account if the old account is closed under suspicious circumstances.
If people are signing up under stolen credit cards, that's not just annoying, that's a crime and the police can get involved.
Because zombies don't have the same IP of the server with SPF installed. If people are using SPF, they will be clearly marked as spam (ie hotgirl@hotmail.com addresses will be easily marked as spam because they don't originate from hotmail's IP address). This would force spammers to use local ISP SMTP servers (which supposedly have valid SPF) or else their own non-SPF server (easy to filter by, though you wouldn't want to kill all mail from these, just give them a few notches up on the spamminess in your filter settings-or blocked completely if you want to block those emails sent directly) or junk servers, of course, (which can be filtered out as well because they don't resolve to anything).
SPF is used to verify what IP addresses should be sending email. If they're not valid IP addresses, then the email should be tossed.
If anything, this would put the burden on local ISPs to figure out who's sending emails through their servers (which again, have valid SPFs) and kill them at the source by making it easier to spot the ones sending bulkmail. If the ISP is known not to kill spammers, the entire ISP can be blocked as well.
But now that the problem is spam zombies on millions of user PCs, how will this put a dent in the problem? Sure they won't be able to connect directly to Hotmail to say they're someserver.com, but it won't stop them from sending spam through their own ISP's mail server.
On the contrary, it will put a dent into the spam zombies. Simply because the spam zombies won't be able to send emails from their own mail server as someserver.com. If they're required to send emails through their ISP's mail server then the ISP can red flag their account when they see that they're suddenly sending hundreds of thousands of emails. Companies are already starting to block port 25 outgoing. Also, servers that support SPF can automatically say "Only this IP is allowed to send email from me" and the server that recieved it can say "This email did not come from someserver.com's IP address. It is most likely spam."
Since the key to spam zombies is having a lot of PCs that send relatively few spams per PC, it will be very difficult for each ISP to track down and stop each zombie.
And get reported as a spammer for sending spam through their ISP. Some people do report spam still.
Well, that's only if you buy seperate insurance for your computer. My renters insurance pays for it should my computer blow up. Same as my stove, microwave, washer and dryer, etc. If you lose everything to a fire, I doubt you can pay for it all all over again. I've already had my insurance replace a computer once due to lightning (came in through the phone line, grr!)
There is a difference between being *able* to customize and being *forced* to customize because it doesn't work properly.
I don't know what I'd do without the ports collection in FreeBSD. Even then I have to customize a little bit when someone writes a bad/misconfigured port.
And who said you couldn't write perl scripts in Windows? When I had my laptop up and running on Windows XP (Lightning strike, unrelated to the issue at hand) I had several perl scripts run on startup that would back up my files to the laptop. Perl is just as easy to use in Windows as it is in Linux. It just doesn't come installed straight from the box.
Besides, everyone is buying these new processors that are faster than 1 GHz, but that doesn't mean its right. It means the lemmings can't think for themselves.
I've had this happen at the current job I'm at now.
They wanted to look at my code to see what style I used, how many comments, variable names and such. It wasn't much of a problem since I had just graduated from school and just had to track down my zip disk with my homework on it.
The biggest thing that they talked about was that I actually commented my code!
When I went to Boy's state that year (a political science type thing for Juniors and Seniors) Ashcroft made a speech at the end. During the entire speech he acted like we were nothing but children who weren't important.
Too bad he didn't realize that most of us would be voting the next election.
By the way, I voted for the dead guy. Better to have the dead in charge than a nutcase like Ashcroft.
Actually, there might not be a way to prove a PC has been compromised, but there are some activities that might trigger a red flag.
Such as:
Massive amounts of email being sent out. Massive amounts of ICMP ping packets being sent out. High bandwidth usage on common Trojan ports.
Of course, these should be sent to a human to judge just what is going on (for instance, legitimate business uses like sending mail to just a few addresses and not sending 1 million messages through a SMTP server).
I'm sure that this could be implemented better than I've said, or at least reasonable limits determined, but I don't know enough about being a ISP to know what's "normal".
One of my major gripes with ext2 and ext3 is that if for some reason the computer is turned off without unmounting properly (such as...power goes out and you don't have a power backup, you THOUGHT it was shut down but in reality it had one more to go, you bump into the power button accidently, etc) SOMETHING goes wrong.
Last time I was running Mandrake 9.2 on ext3 and I accidently bumped into the power button I lost half the gui because it crashed every time it tried to open.
I may just be unlucky, but this seems to happen every single time the computer isn't shut down properly with one of those file systems. When I can, I use NTFS because then I don't have to worry as much about reinstalling something because it got corrupted when it wasn't shut down right.
Lots of people still think that there is nothing you can do on 2d Desktops that you cannot do on the command line. The 2D desktop is still settling in, 20 years or so after it ws first invented. I think a 3D desktop could well have a lot to offer.
Well, yes, this is true for LINUX where most of the programs or functionality for those programs are only available through the command line, but this is not always true for Windows.
I know of no way to run 95% of the programs I use in Windows through command line. Not to say that there isn't a way:)
Have any of you actually used the ad supported version? Or have you all just avoided it like the plague?
Its a seperate program entirely. Just stop the process and delete the executable. My "ad supported" DiVX is no longer supported from my computer and its the pro version as well.
Well, the big problem I've run into is those "jr. level programming positions" want 6-10 years experience, enough education certificates to build a boat to those overseas countries, and usually, though not from your example, only want to pay you less than 30k a year. I have personally seen only two jobs in my state over 50k in five months of looking
At least...that's from what I've seen. Companies are extremely picky right now. I've been turned down for every position I applied for and some within ten minutes of applying for them. I'd like to know where you've been looking. I can't even get an interview.
Ah, not quite. WiFi signals aren't exactly limited to four walls. In fact, when TechTV did an article on McDonalds to add WiFi they noted that they could still get signal down the road. All it takes is someone to throw their card out the window within the two hour time span that they get access for someone else to access on their dime. Not to mention any security holes these networks might have. This doesn't even take into consideration wardriving.
Actually, I hit this problem when trying to download golf courses for my dad (he on dialup, I'm on cable). Turns out it was more an operating system problem than it was a browser problem. Fileplanet had popups and for every window I opened, two would show up. Trying to download 40+ courses at a time crashed the browser constantly. Switching to Windows 2000/XP from 98 fixed my problems.
Pirates - Either kill some to make cash or kill other people to make cash.
Playing the market - Either sell to NPCs the stuff that they want or buy it from the NPCs and sell it to PCs when they can't get it (or are just too lazy)
Join a Corp, meet new people - Internal corp politics easily fill the boring spots.:) I'm not talking about the corps that force you to go mine, either. I'm talking about the ones that are actually interesting.
Among other things such as factories and research (when you can find a station, of course). The biggest problem EVE has is it can be too open ended for some people:)
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Can we please get cut and paste to work properly? If I copy in one program (say, Firefox) and try to paste into another (say, Thunderbird) if, heaven forbid, I close the first window my clipboard magically clears itself and I have to go find my data again.
I've noticed this in KDE, so if Gnome has this fixed, I haven't played with it.
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Sorry, had to say it.
Even now, if she updates completely (after getting rid of the spyware/adware/viruses junk) and stays up to date she'll be fine.
Clarification to my own post, by "fine" I mean until she downloads and installs more adware/spyware crap. Even a fully patched and updated PC will get adware or spyware on it if the malware is installed by clicking "yes" to something she shouldn't.
Consider this for a moment. Jane Boxwine buys a brand-new computer in 1999. It's a Pentium II 400 with 128MB RAM, 8MB HD, and Windows 98. She spends $2000 on it.
:)
I say she's a sucker to begin with considering I bought a brand new computer in 1999/early 2000 that was a PIII 800Mhz, 128MB RAM, 7200 RPM 30GB hard drive and windows 98 for about that much or less and it was not top of the line.
Besides, I seriously doubt Windows 98 will fit on an 8MB hard drive straight off the CD.
Whoever sold that computer to her must have been laughing all the way to the bank.
On topic, and per the grandparent:
This test just shows remaining Windows 98 users they should keep up to date or upgrade to XP.
If Ms. Boxwine would have kept up to date, she wouldn't have had the problems and wouldn't need to upgrade to Windows XP (or spend $100 on a slower OS for her PC). Jane's mistake was not keeping up to date. Even now, if she updates completely (after getting rid of the spyware/adware/viruses junk) and stays up to date she'll be fine.
On a side note, my company has had Windows 98 PCs on the open internet, no firewall, no updates (a few have IE5.5 SP2), and no antivirus running for years (restarted nightly now, they were just running and only restarted when they locked up or the power flickered) and they don't have any adware crap on them simply because they aren't used to browse the internet / check emails. This may be the exception to the rule, however
Or, you could just remove "it." from the URL...
I'm sorry, but have you people been asleep for the last 5 years? I've never seen an ISP TOS that made any distinction between spam you sent direct from your box vs. mail you sent through their mailhub. This doesn't change anything.
Except that the spammers are sending through ISP servers using valid accounts and using ISP resources to submit their flood onto the world. Surely a clueful admin would notice the abundant cpu time/bandwidth being used to the point where it limits legitimate use?
Spammers already sign up for new accounts and then close them all the time. They are famous for it. ISPs either don't care or can't keep up.
Sure, free accounts. Hotmail, yahoo, among other free email providers. This would not stop those.
Of course this all assumes spammers even open the accounts themselves instead of using their zombies to send for them, like they're already doing. And don't talk about ISPs shutting those down easily. They can't/won't even do it for worms, which are a lot more dangerous.
I'm assuming that you're talking about trojaned boxes being stopped (as I don't think you're talking about trojaned email servers). Of course, if you would have followed my point in previous posts that email would be blocked from invalid servers (ie the zombie boxes), you wouldn't have brought this point up. If spammers are getting most of their email blocked, they'll try thier hardest to get around it.
As for police getting involved when it's a crime... are they getting involved now when spammers hijack machines and use them to send their mail?
Is that even a crime?
I was speaking of the credit card fraud used in signing up new accounts with ISPs. (You know, the ones that cost money as opposed to the free ones?)
If spammers are forced to use ISP email servers, they are also forced to use them under ISP rules. (ie must have a valid email address, must be a current user, must follow ToS, etc).
Its more difficult to change your email address when that email address is attached to a main account. I suspect ISPs will get annoyed when people are signing up for new accounts and then closing them all the time. They may even be banned from opening a new account if the old account is closed under suspicious circumstances.
If people are signing up under stolen credit cards, that's not just annoying, that's a crime and the police can get involved.
Because zombies don't have the same IP of the server with SPF installed. If people are using SPF, they will be clearly marked as spam (ie hotgirl@hotmail.com addresses will be easily marked as spam because they don't originate from hotmail's IP address). This would force spammers to use local ISP SMTP servers (which supposedly have valid SPF) or else their own non-SPF server (easy to filter by, though you wouldn't want to kill all mail from these, just give them a few notches up on the spamminess in your filter settings-or blocked completely if you want to block those emails sent directly) or junk servers, of course, (which can be filtered out as well because they don't resolve to anything).
SPF is used to verify what IP addresses should be sending email. If they're not valid IP addresses, then the email should be tossed.
If anything, this would put the burden on local ISPs to figure out who's sending emails through their servers (which again, have valid SPFs) and kill them at the source by making it easier to spot the ones sending bulkmail. If the ISP is known not to kill spammers, the entire ISP can be blocked as well.
But now that the problem is spam zombies on millions of user PCs, how will this put a dent in the problem? Sure they won't be able to connect directly to Hotmail to say they're someserver.com, but it won't stop them from sending spam through their own ISP's mail server.
On the contrary, it will put a dent into the spam zombies. Simply because the spam zombies won't be able to send emails from their own mail server as someserver.com. If they're required to send emails through their ISP's mail server then the ISP can red flag their account when they see that they're suddenly sending hundreds of thousands of emails. Companies are already starting to block port 25 outgoing. Also, servers that support SPF can automatically say "Only this IP is allowed to send email from me" and the server that recieved it can say "This email did not come from someserver.com's IP address. It is most likely spam."
Since the key to spam zombies is having a lot of PCs that send relatively few spams per PC, it will be very difficult for each ISP to track down and stop each zombie.
And get reported as a spammer for sending spam through their ISP. Some people do report spam still.
Well, that's only if you buy seperate insurance for your computer. My renters insurance pays for it should my computer blow up. Same as my stove, microwave, washer and dryer, etc. If you lose everything to a fire, I doubt you can pay for it all all over again. I've already had my insurance replace a computer once due to lightning (came in through the phone line, grr!)
There is a difference between being *able* to customize and being *forced* to customize because it doesn't work properly.
I don't know what I'd do without the ports collection in FreeBSD. Even then I have to customize a little bit when someone writes a bad/misconfigured port.
And who said you couldn't write perl scripts in Windows? When I had my laptop up and running on Windows XP (Lightning strike, unrelated to the issue at hand) I had several perl scripts run on startup that would back up my files to the laptop. Perl is just as easy to use in Windows as it is in Linux. It just doesn't come installed straight from the box.
Interestingly enough, the title for their webpage is "Untitled Document"
Pretty bad when a union for computer professionals forgets something as simple as changing the title on a preformatted header.
That is a bad analogy.
Besides, everyone is buying these new processors that are faster than 1 GHz, but that doesn't mean its right. It means the lemmings can't think for themselves.
I've had this happen at the current job I'm at now.
They wanted to look at my code to see what style I used, how many comments, variable names and such. It wasn't much of a problem since I had just graduated from school and just had to track down my zip disk with my homework on it.
The biggest thing that they talked about was that I actually commented my code!
When I went to Boy's state that year (a political science type thing for Juniors and Seniors) Ashcroft made a speech at the end. During the entire speech he acted like we were nothing but children who weren't important.
Too bad he didn't realize that most of us would be voting the next election.
By the way, I voted for the dead guy. Better to have the dead in charge than a nutcase like Ashcroft.
Actually, there might not be a way to prove a PC has been compromised, but there are some activities that might trigger a red flag.
Such as:
Massive amounts of email being sent out.
Massive amounts of ICMP ping packets being sent out.
High bandwidth usage on common Trojan ports.
Of course, these should be sent to a human to judge just what is going on (for instance, legitimate business uses like sending mail to just a few addresses and not sending 1 million messages through a SMTP server).
I'm sure that this could be implemented better than I've said, or at least reasonable limits determined, but I don't know enough about being a ISP to know what's "normal".
Where's the stability test?
One of my major gripes with ext2 and ext3 is that if for some reason the computer is turned off without unmounting properly (such as...power goes out and you don't have a power backup, you THOUGHT it was shut down but in reality it had one more to go, you bump into the power button accidently, etc) SOMETHING goes wrong.
Last time I was running Mandrake 9.2 on ext3 and I accidently bumped into the power button I lost half the gui because it crashed every time it tried to open.
I may just be unlucky, but this seems to happen every single time the computer isn't shut down properly with one of those file systems. When I can, I use NTFS because then I don't have to worry as much about reinstalling something because it got corrupted when it wasn't shut down right.
I know of no way to run 95% of the programs I use in Windows through command line. Not to say that there isn't a way
Have any of you actually used the ad supported version? Or have you all just avoided it like the plague?
Its a seperate program entirely. Just stop the process and delete the executable. My "ad supported" DiVX is no longer supported from my computer and its the pro version as well.
Well, the big problem I've run into is those "jr. level programming positions" want 6-10 years experience, enough education certificates to build a boat to those overseas countries, and usually, though not from your example, only want to pay you less than 30k a year. I have personally seen only two jobs in my state over 50k in five months of looking
At least...that's from what I've seen. Companies are extremely picky right now. I've been turned down for every position I applied for and some within ten minutes of applying for them. I'd like to know where you've been looking. I can't even get an interview.
Ah, not quite. WiFi signals aren't exactly limited to four walls. In fact, when TechTV did an article on McDonalds to add WiFi they noted that they could still get signal down the road. All it takes is someone to throw their card out the window within the two hour time span that they get access for someone else to access on their dime. Not to mention any security holes these networks might have. This doesn't even take into consideration wardriving.
Actually, I hit this problem when trying to download golf courses for my dad (he on dialup, I'm on cable). Turns out it was more an operating system problem than it was a browser problem. Fileplanet had popups and for every window I opened, two would show up. Trying to download 40+ courses at a time crashed the browser constantly. Switching to Windows 2000/XP from 98 fixed my problems.
What else is there to do? Well there's...
:) I'm not talking about the corps that force you to go mine, either. I'm talking about the ones that are actually interesting.
:)
Pirates - Either kill some to make cash or kill other people to make cash.
Playing the market - Either sell to NPCs the stuff that they want or buy it from the NPCs and sell it to PCs when they can't get it (or are just too lazy)
Join a Corp, meet new people - Internal corp politics easily fill the boring spots.
Among other things such as factories and research (when you can find a station, of course). The biggest problem EVE has is it can be too open ended for some people