Your 3rd explaination isn't entirely too clear. Adding a 4th that is more succinct.
All possibilities _already_ exist. A "timeline" is simply the path as you move from one point to the next. (Remember, time & space are quantized.) Time travel is simply picking a different path, aka different time-line.
> in simple term, we don't know.
I would recommend not making blanket statements of ignorance.
- At one level, time doesn't even exist. It is the eternal now. - Time is simply a dimension of mind. (Who's mind? That is a much _more_ interesting question, and left as an exercise for the reader.)
-- "Inner Space, not Outer Space is the FINAL frontier"
> There isn't going to be a "We stop using IPv4 now and switch to IPv6 now,"
And that EXACTLY is the fucking problem.
Numerous countries (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-_and_left-hand_traffic) can, _gasp_, educate people to switch from driving from the left hand side to the right hand side so that there are minimal migration problems, but yet everyone is too fucking lazy to coordinate the inevitable from IPV4 to IPV6.
Set a date. Educate consumers. And DO IT already, say ~ Aug 2014, when WinXP stops receiving security updates.
This isn't just going to magically happy when people get around to it...
> Let's be honest here: Put in the context of the bailout, or even of the military budget or social programs like Social Security or Medicare, everything we could possible do in space looks like a bargain.
> No human can really keep up with 2 100% controlled and coordinated attacks. Mainly because we have to split our resources between them. The AI could realistically perfectly control 2 attacks with all the skill that a human player could devote to a single attack.
The biggest problem is the INTERFACE of the game. Let me know when I can create on-the-fly Picture-In-Picture overviews of the map in real-time, so I _actually_ can attack/defend on multiple fronts.
Sad to see RTSs really haven't changed in 20 years;-(
Having shipped multiple professional game titles on various consoles/PC, worked with some very talented designers, and met Jenova Chen, I *strongly* disagree.
Rare, yes, impossible, no. (Granted it is becoming harder, but indies keep showing the "the biz" just what is "possible", aka "World of Goo.")
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> Add the fact that this is, you know, Epic. The guys who fled the PC because they only had one rehash of the same game to offer again and again until it tanked. And they blamed it on the imminent demise of the PC market and piracy and whatever, when similar games sold several times the number of copies in the same period.
I would [mostly] agree with this. The latter UTs weren't as "good" as the earlier ones. The "fps community" moved onto new & better games... Battlefield Bad Company 2, Call of Duty MW, etc...
> Then they did ok on the XBox as long as basically they were almost the only FPS game in town.
Again, agreed. Thankfully (love it or hate it) Halo on the XBox re-vitalized the FPS market (along with Call of Duty/MW.) Some sort of recharging shield + skill tree / perks seems to be resultant merger of FPS+RPGs these days.
> Now they're pretty much the only major game dev excited about Apple's walled garden enforced with an iron fist. I wonder why;)
> What are the odds they'd find us, even if they could get here?
Before you can even answer that, I would recommend studying what Einstein called "Spooky action at a distance", i.e. How does one photon "communicate" to the other photon?
Consciousness is not limited to the archaic light speed.*
* Proof left as an exercise for the reader.
-- Inner Space is the FINAL frontier, not Outer Space.
> As much as I dislike religion. I've come to accept that probably for a long time to come, we are going to be stuck with it. That's because you can't use logic to fight blind faith. Some people just don't want to take responsibility for their lives, no matter what the evidence.
> Probably every generation has had its share of people that thought that they were going to see the downfall of religion in their time. Actually this century you will see Judaism, Christianity, and Islam be made obsolete, and be replaced with something far less corrupted and dumbed-down.
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> I'm interested in your statement that space-time is separable. Please explain, ideally, with the appropriate references.
First prove that Time exists...
You _do_ realize the nonsense of trying to prove something that is essentially non-provable, in contradistinction to something that is knowable. The only 100% proof you will find is after you are dead -- if you are lucky you will know it before, but given your ignorance between proof/knowledge/gnosis, I sadly, and seriously doubt that.
> It would appear to me that saying that time is independent of space is like saying that the length and width of a rectangle can exist separately of each other. I also am dubious of your contention that two independent things are, of neccessity, separable. I may be able to independently set the length and width of a rectangle that I draw but that does not make them separable since it ceases to be a rectangle without one of those components.
That is an bad/incorrect analogy; you are mixing dimensions. Space is 3 dimensional, Time is only 1 dimensional.
> I also am dubious of your contention that two independent things are, of neccessity, separable.
> Time will have a beginning and end as points of reference.
So when does time stop?
Time is _independent_ of space. (Yes, I know some would argue that you can't seperate space-time but that is incorrect conclusion based on an incomplete premise.)
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Your 3rd explaination isn't entirely too clear. Adding a 4th that is more succinct.
All possibilities _already_ exist. A "timeline" is simply the path as you move from one point to the next. (Remember, time & space are quantized.) Time travel is simply picking a different path, aka different time-line.
> in simple term, we don't know.
I would recommend not making blanket statements of ignorance.
- At one level, time doesn't even exist. It is the eternal now.
- Time is simply a dimension of mind. (Who's mind? That is a much _more_ interesting question, and left as an exercise for the reader.)
--
"Inner Space, not Outer Space is the FINAL frontier"
> Gravitation works at the speed of light.
Um, no. Try again.
http://metaresearch.org/cosmology/speed_of_gravity.asp
http://iopscience.iop.org/0004-637X/590/2/683/57516.text.html
s1m0ne ...
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0258153/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S1m0ne
> There isn't going to be a "We stop using IPv4 now and switch to IPv6 now,"
And that EXACTLY is the fucking problem.
Numerous countries (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-_and_left-hand_traffic) can, _gasp_, educate people to switch from driving from the left hand side to the right hand side so that there are minimal migration problems, but yet everyone is too fucking lazy to coordinate the inevitable from IPV4 to IPV6.
Set a date. Educate consumers. And DO IT already, say ~ Aug 2014, when WinXP stops receiving security updates.
This isn't just going to magically happy when people get around to it...
Compare how much money is wasted on the "War on Terror" (The US is fighting an inanimate object?!?!)
US Federal Budget
2010 Version
http://www.mint.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/DAT2010mint.jpg
Previously posted 2009 version...
http://stepsandleaps.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/wallstatsdatlarge.jpg
2008 Version (sorry for long link, 2008 is hard to find)
https://o4eiha.bay.livefilestore.com/y1mFOjJMJ73p0LF5FzjuTQ-LENPDEtZo73oI4MS13TyLQD177PI7QT0YtsgYXm63SSiBJHSHlHDG_GVDdK2XNrSAX61-FklbOWvyKyKpoo2k6ckqSCJR7g2a_CkGv4HQcb2uZSqYL7SJDbSsZkfuRur2Q/wallstatsdatlarge_thumb%5B2%5D.jpg
Other interesting break-down...
Auto Industry Breakdown
http://www.mint.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/AutoIndustryFinal3.jpg
> Let's be honest here: Put in the context of the bailout, or even of the military budget or social programs like Social Security or Medicare, everything we could possible do in space looks like a bargain.
For those wanting to put things in context...
DEATH & TAXES
A visual guide to where your federal tax dollars go.
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/5927/wallstatsdatlarge.jpg
or
http://www.google.com/images?q=wallstatsdatlarge.jpg
You ARE aware of the placebo effect, right? It is a BIG problem for big pharma ...
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg18524911.600-13-things-that-do-not-make-sense.html
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Define "sentient" please ...
> No human can really keep up with 2 100% controlled and coordinated attacks. Mainly because we have to split our resources between them. The AI could realistically perfectly control 2 attacks with all the skill that a human player could devote to a single attack.
The biggest problem is the INTERFACE of the game. Let me know when I can create on-the-fly Picture-In-Picture overviews of the map in real-time, so I _actually_ can attack/defend on multiple fronts.
Sad to see RTSs really haven't changed in 20 years ;-(
> One person can't design an original game, it just isn't humanly possible.
Uh, did you miss the WHOLE gaming scene in the '70s and '80s? i.e. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Mechner of Karateka fame.
Having shipped multiple professional game titles on various consoles/PC, worked with some very talented designers, and met Jenova Chen, I *strongly* disagree.
Rare, yes, impossible, no. (Granted it is becoming harder, but indies keep showing the "the biz" just what is "possible", aka "World of Goo.")
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You mean like this? ;-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j19Aoe9EUVY
> Add the fact that this is, you know, Epic. The guys who fled the PC because they only had one rehash of the same game to offer again and again until it tanked. And they blamed it on the imminent demise of the PC market and piracy and whatever, when similar games sold several times the number of copies in the same period.
I would [mostly] agree with this. The latter UTs weren't as "good" as the earlier ones. The "fps community" moved onto new & better games ... Battlefield Bad Company 2, Call of Duty MW, etc ...
> Then they did ok on the XBox as long as basically they were almost the only FPS game in town.
Again, agreed. Thankfully (love it or hate it) Halo on the XBox re-vitalized the FPS market (along with Call of Duty/MW.) Some sort of recharging shield + skill tree / perks seems to be resultant merger of FPS+RPGs these days.
> Now they're pretty much the only major game dev excited about Apple's walled garden enforced with an iron fist. I wonder why ;)
Have you had a chance to check out the "Epic Citadel" demo on the iPhone. Looks like your first point "more money for Epic." is spot on.
http://app-store.appspot.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fax.phobos.apple.com.edgesuite.net%2Fus%2Fapp%2Fepic-citadel%2Fid388888815%3Fmt%3D8
There are a few other game companies that seem to deliver good iPhone games -- Gameloft for example with "Dungeon Hunter"
http://app-store.appspot.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fax.phobos.apple.com.edgesuite.net%2Fus%2Fapp%2Fdungeon-hunter%2Fid329899071%3Fmt%3D8%26ign-impt%3DclickRef%253DSoftware%252520Page-US-Dungeon%252520Hunter-329899071-Lockup
Cheers
> Why buy the cow when you can milk the bull for free?
Methinks you (pardon the pun), butchered that...
"Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?" - FTFY
Anyways, the answer is: To keep the other bulls away so you have a monopoly on the milk... and the heifers...
But I digress.
Soooo, bringing this back ON topic, when have the movie studies NOT tried to screw the public out their money with all the [crappy] sequels.
> First, the universe is not a sentient being - it cannot "forbid" anything.
If you will pardon the pun, that is a mighty big ASSUMPTION.
And I'm not even going to get into the fact that you don't even know what consciousness is... let alone matter.
> What are the odds they'd find us, even if they could get here?
Before you can even answer that, I would recommend studying what Einstein called "Spooky action at a distance", i.e. How does one photon "communicate" to the other photon?
Consciousness is not limited to the archaic light speed.*
* Proof left as an exercise for the reader.
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> Well, until the stylus starts wearing down and the grooves start smoothing out...
Uh, there ARE laser turn tables ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_turntable
> What will fill the gaps of Christianity, Muslim and Judaism?
The truth. The Dead Sea Scrolls are only the tip of the revealed iceberg...
> Will it be Scientology? In my mind that is much worse.
God no, that is extreme brainwashing.
> As much as I dislike religion. I've come to accept that probably for a long time to come, we are going to be stuck with it.
That's because you can't use logic to fight blind faith. Some people just don't want to take responsibility for their lives, no matter what the evidence.
> Probably every generation has had its share of people that thought that they were going to see the downfall of religion in their time.
Actually this century you will see Judaism, Christianity, and Islam be made obsolete, and be replaced with something far less corrupted and dumbed-down.
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Nah, just...
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Sorry, thought you were the GP.
> I'm interested in your statement that space-time is separable. Please explain, ideally, with the appropriate references.
First prove that Time exists...
You _do_ realize the nonsense of trying to prove something that is essentially non-provable, in contradistinction to something that is knowable. The only 100% proof you will find is after you are dead -- if you are lucky you will know it before, but given your ignorance between proof/knowledge/gnosis, I sadly, and seriously doubt that.
> It would appear to me that saying that time is independent of space is like saying that the length and width of a rectangle can exist separately of each other. I also am dubious of your contention that two independent things are, of neccessity, separable. I may be able to independently set the length and width of a rectangle that I draw but that does not make them separable since it ceases to be a rectangle without one of those components.
That is an bad/incorrect analogy; you are mixing dimensions. Space is 3 dimensional, Time is only 1 dimensional.
> I also am dubious of your contention that two independent things are, of neccessity, separable.
What is the definition of independent??
You still haven't given any proof or references that time starts or stops that you initially asserted...
> Gimp is about equal to photoshop for all but the most finicky image editing tasks, and as of the last version, it even has a better UI.
LOL. Let me know when 2.6 supports _all_ of Photoshop's [layer] blend modes, and layer grouping/folders...
> Time will have a beginning and end as points of reference.
So when does time stop?
Time is _independent_ of space. (Yes, I know some would argue that you can't seperate space-time but that is incorrect conclusion based on an incomplete premise.)
- Guardian Heroes (Introduced action/rpg long before Borderlands made it popular)
While not a best game, this is still a favorite only because no other console since had gun peripherals :)
- Virtual Cop