Absurd? No. The ones I know which worked just fine.
I used MUI + MagicWB because it's an improvement over AmigaOS Workbench but still about the same. Afterstep because Next, NextStep, Steve Jobs and that it was a decent UI. I guess BeOS and OS/2 could had been thrown in too: http://lowendmac.com/wp-conten... http://ps-2.kev009.com/michaln... CDE because it's the standard(?) or was on Solaris machines(?), I don't know what it replaced if anything. FVWM is very configurable so I don't know if any of the looks are standard but it's old, known and look typical enough.
All those in total are six different examples of user-interfaces I think look pretty decent. They are all "complete different" which was kinda a joke with saying "the standard" but on the other hand looking at them like this they kinda all is very similar with highlightened and shaded buttons to give them a 3D feel / separate them, and lines and grey. Maybe it's not the best user-interface but it's very clear were everything is.
Like now I use Chrome but if I minimize this window then Steam sit behinds with it's completely own user-interface with much smaller buttons so I can't simply press on the same spot multiple times to minimize all my windows because they don't line up. How much of a crappy design isn't that?
Also the damn close button which sit in the corner of the window where if the window for whatever reason isn't fully maximized you may accidentally close some other window behind it or whatever it is which may happen. Also in Windows the close button sit together with the rest and even up until this day not all programs KNOW TO ASK WHATEVER ONE REALLY WANT TO CLOSE THEM DOWN!! Something like Chrome will just close the window / shut down and that's it. No "Do you really want to close this window with 35 tabs?" - no such thing, just close it all down!! No worries!
One the one hand I've kinda liked custom user interfaces when they are done right - like with Adobe Lightroom maybe I can accept it - I guess the difference is within whatever they live on a separate full screen themselves and have their own work-space or whatever they are windowed applications sharing the environment and space with other programs. I guess in general I'm against non-standard user-interfaces AS LONG AS THE STANDARD IS A GOOD ONE. Take KDE for instance - tool-bars, large tabs, vertical text written in rotated mode! Tree structures for selections here and there. I hate it. I'm ok with KDE as such but the user-interface is shit. I like that it's one environment but the user-interface used for it all isn't the best it could be IMHO. In Windows I hate that I can't pull a drawer from explorer into a file selector dialog to enter that directory (or a file either I guess), I have to navigate through their explorer within the file selector dialog.
I don't really know how this is on topic on the user-interfaces above let alone the/. post whatever the topic was for that one - oh, Vivaldi 1.0, got it.
Oh well, back to topic then I guess: I liked the old Opera - I like clever features and Opera was the inventor of many of them. The new Opera (and Edge) lost capabilities and I hate that. However Opera doesn't follow the native user-interface and I don't like that. I dislike tabs which somehow holds close gadgets within them which will be really cramped and when you want to switch tab you may eventually close one instead because supposedly it also held a close gadget. So much poor design in user-interfaces. But I like the FEATURES of the good old Opera and Vivaldi.
Back then people had serious discussions about what sort of storage controller, network interface, and upstream connectivity was needed to achieve this result. Nowadays we can stuff that same performance in a trouser pocket. What an age to live in.
Some things never change though.
Virgin then - virgin now.
Guess the computer usage haven't changed much either. I use Windows 10 now but even still I don't have functional sleep (IE/Edge still suck too.) Internet-dating has caught up and now is even more looks-minded than actual party-"dating."
I find it helpful. I was pondering buying a Kindle. Now I'll wait for the new models.
I've been thinking about getting an ebook reader too but sales are plummeting and so many seem to be ok with reading text on their regular IPS tablets too.
I want to check out comic books too, I would be somewhat ok with poor colors but I want some colors, also I saw some e-ink reader/tablet which run full Android but the updates of those screens are so horrible.
All that kinda make me wonder whatever maybe I should just get a tablet anyway instead. This doesn't mention color and I guess I'm no longer all that interested in a black and white e-ink device.
Re:Pretty standard boilerplate... (Score:4, Informative)
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Seem like what one person consider freedom is another persons shady prison =P
True, but they seem to be ignoring the basic functionality of their marketplace, which is where the money for all that comes from. It's like if Amazon had let their storefront stagnate 5 years ago in favor of JUST doing their special projects. I dunno. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe those are all money-making projects, but I doubt it.
What's the problem with their marketplace?
One thing they have been doing there is trying to increase the safety for misused accounts so it will be harder to sell or give-away someone elseÂs stuff.
So what the hell does "Ubuntu will primarily run on a foundation of native Windows libraries" mean? "Ubuntu" is an OS with the Linux kernel and pre-configured utilities, programs and drivers put on top of that, but TFS is indicating that "Ubuntu" in this case is not including a kernel, utilities, or drivers. Unless this is an extremely mangled, obscure, and moronic way of saying that Windows 10 will be including a Linux compatibility layer sponsored by Ubuntu.
You have to parse TFS through sed to get the real message.
"This will not be in a virtual machine" "Microsoft and Canonical will not, however, sources say, be integrating Linux per se into Windows." Ok, so it's not Linux. But it's Ubuntu/Windows so to say.
"real native Bash Linux binary running on Windows itself" So Windows will be ABI compatible with Linux?
"just as on Linux, because it is Linux" But earlier you said it wasn't? It's Ubuntu not Linux?
"You can apt-get" Yeah I know but apt-get isn't Linux specific.
There's a sucker born every minute. People who believe this is a free gift never heard of a Trojan Horse, and the people following the cheerleaders never heard of a Judas Goat.
Yeah, because RichardÂs GNU are so much better.
Free and free.. Yeah, practically. Microsoft haven't granted me a free Windows 10 license though (if any Microsoft employee / someone want too you've got my e-mail address though.)
"A majority of societies are ok with how societies work and don't care enough for protecting the freedom of expression and opinions of those who don't, at-least not if that also allow more extreme people who don't like their society to act as-well."
Such fucking news.
Maybe they can with correctness call it "for democracy" as long as that democracy mean "for the views we the majority has decided to be the only correct ones", if the idea of a democracy is to be able to spread various opinions and effect society however then I don't see how it's democratic regardless of what those views are.
Is an African American who develops a bizarre hatred of African Americans suddenly no longer black? Is a white man who believes that whites are responsible for all the evil in the world suddenly Native American?
He can disavow Judaism - plenty of Jews do it. They're called "secular Jews." They're still Jews, and he is, too.
Can one become American?
Maybe you are correct on how it should be labeled but I guess one can both have Jewish parents, be a believing Jew, be part of a Jewish community, identify as Jew,...
Also I don't see why Nazism and destruction of Jews necessarily have to go hand in hand.
The German Nazis wanted to create one nation for them and do whatever they thought was best for that one and sure, in their view the Jews was a problem there and led to the genocide of the Jews.
However if you had Jewish Isareli Nazis would they go around killing themselves? No. They would more likely kill Palestinians and Muslims and whatever. If the purpose of having one race / people whatever in the nation.
IMHO having on nation for your people is likely a good thing and multiculturalism is retarded since it's blind to the fact that not everyone wants it. That doesn't mean that I think Jews has to go, or anyone else.
Your thoughts about the model of the Linux kernel is simply wrong. It may not use much resources for those not using the drivers though anyway. Just because it's in the kernel source code doesn't necessarily mean you have to load it even though you don't need it.
many more PS4s in the wild than there are PCs that meet the minimum specs of the Rift.
Then again none of those Playstation 4s reach it either.. So.. Guess the PC players got that covered anyway.
Now if we talk PCs who reach the computing performance of the Playstation 4 there will at-least be more of them (than the better performing ones), whatever that's more than the PS4s I don't know, possibly? Likely? I don't know what the sales are of the graphics cards, could likely rather easily find some.
I'm not sure how valid the "but it's cheaper" argument the summary makes is.
It is very valid. $399 doesn't include camera and move controllers but $550 does. The PS4 is $350 so you get a complete package for $900.
The HTC Vive includes controllers but is $800 and you need at-least a $800 PC to reach up to the spec they want which is $1600 in total and almost twice as expensive as the Sony solution.
Already $900 would seem expensive for a family toy for most but paying twice as much.. well.. That's not really for families at all but rather enthusiasts.
I don't really get the need for the attitude, if there existed zero evidence for it then I wouldn't mention it, however as you said in my case "don't believe that's intentional" maybe the same can be said about the harshness in your comment. But I assume it was, but you kinda covered it up by kinda stating being too harsh may not be valid because my "lies" wasn't intentional so whatever.
Over to the posts. The stuff I've seen HAS BEEN lower performance on SteamOS. As for WHY that's is the case I don't really care. The main reason reason people would be against switching OS would likely be lack of applications, in this case the games they are or want to be playing, the second reason for gamers would likely be for lower performance if they switched. Lower performance may cut it for some ideologists but it won't cut it for the majority which focus about THE GAMES and not the operating system.
There's what is now old tests of early versions of SteamOS, maybe I really shouldn't use those. Here's one on Arstechnica from 13th November 2015, it shows performance for ValveÂs own Source-based games: http://arstechnica.com/gaming/... SteamOS 2.0 vs Windows 10: Portal: 107.1 vs 146.2 FPS Team Fortress 2: 89.2 vs 114.3 FPS Left for Dead 2: 49.1 vs 50.1 FPS DOTA 2 (Source 2 version?): 60.0 vs 70.6 FPS.
They also cover Metro: Last Light Redux: Min settings, SteamOS 2 vs Windows 10: 40.0 vs 50.5 FPS Max settings, SteamOS 2 vs Windows 10: 4.2 vs 9.5 FPS and Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor: Lowest, SteamOS 2 vs Windows 10: 61 vs 95.5 FPS Low, SteamOS 2 vs Windows 10: 55.3 vs 87.0 FPS Medium, SteamOS 2 vs Windows 10: 42.1 vs 63.3 FPS High, SteamOS 2 vs Windows 10: 39.2 vs 50.7 FPS Very high, SteamOS 2 vs Windows 10: 35.9 vs 46.9 FPS Ultra, SteamOS 2 vs Windows 10: 14.6 vs 34.5 FPS
Phoronix, 6th August 2015, test performance of Ubuntu OpenGL vs Windows 10, http://www.phoronix.com/scan.p...: OpenArena, slight lead for Ubuntu, at most by 12.4%. Xonotic, massive lead for Windows, at most 344.9% faster.
Arma III about the same in the clip you pointed out I'd say, but maybe I would had preferred the Linux version anyway because it's the slowest parts of the game-play which matter the most. Googled for Total War on Steam OS and Windows and found this of TW: Attila which shows better performance on SteamOS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
16th November 2015, SteamOS vs Windows 10: https://www.youtube.com/watch?... Geekbench: Winner Windows 10. Unigine Heaven: Winner Windows 10 (46.5 vs 48.8 FPS.) Borderlands 2: Winner Windows 10 (34.1 vs 38.6 FPS.) Metro: LL: Winner Windows 10 (37.5 vs 42.3 FPS.) Alien: Isolation: Winner Windows 10 (46.8 vs 54.2 FPS.) Shadow of Mordor: Winner Windows 10 (~42 vs ~47 FPS.)
As for Vulkan: 17 February 2016: http://www.anandtech.com/show/... Fury X: OpenGL: 51.8 FPS Vulkan: 56.9 FPS (beta) DX11: 97.8 FPS 980Ti: OpenGL: 62.6 FPS Vulkan: 65.8 FPS DX11: 91 FPS
Not on topic but somewhat related I think the performance using DX12 in Gears of wars was worse too? Or was it just that AMD cards performed worse with that version? (It is a GameWorks title.)
As I said with completely new games and engines from people who know what they are doing that may change but as is anyone who owns The Talos Principle who were exited about Vulkan support and who hopped for even bet
Might be about time to move the gaming rig over to SteamOS.
So far the performance has been quite a bit worse on SteamOS than on Windows. I don't see why this update would change that. So far Vulkan has performed worse than DirectX too but I assume that will change with new games/engine versions by competent developers.
Who cares? It's a toy OS written in a toy language. It'll join the thousands of other pet project OSes that no more than a handful of people will ever use.
Yeah you're right.
Let's focus on running this one OS which was developed by the guy who didn't even had an OS at all when he sold it and who smashed an idea of a graphical interface he found out about on top or that small toy project from that Minix user guy.
"Your forgot one!" (well, many of course), yeah, the one from that on drugs marketing guy.
Here in Sweden all sorts of people likely want to call themselves liberals because it sounds good and carries no stigma and the left calls anyone opposing immigration for fascist even though the socialist by definition is fascists for all I care, they may be open for immigration rather than not but they are still for a large authoritarian state (or global communism as if that was any better or changed shit.)
But if one were to be more honest about them they should and would be split into social-liberals and neo-liberals (classical liberals.)
As for the parties I guess they are: (Not in the parliament) Feministiskt initativ - Created by party leader of VÃnsterpartiet (former communist party) below, feminist and pro-immigration party of the same. They are all pretty similar, say they are all socialist parties but one which focuses on feminism brand, one on communism, welfare, unions and anti-capitalism and one on environment and mass-immigration. VÃnsterpartiet - Former communist party, social-democratic anti-capitalists pro-government for immigration and human "rights" and welfare for everyone and against borders with revolutionary voters and an over-representation by immigrants. MiljÃpartiet - Former environmental party, used to be pretty liberal but is social-democratic with tolerance of market / free-choice for services and such when they think that may benefit the person. Very "humanist" so to say, want free immigration and open borders.
Socialdemokraterna - Social-democrats. Social-liberals with a realistic view on immigration and capitalism vs socialism, for unions and with a very left/communist/pro-immigration/communist/revolutionary young voting group. Allied with Islamists. Mostly united with the two above because they can't rule otherwise.
Liberalerna, former Folkpartiet - (Social-)liberals.Very consistent. Centerpartiet - Liberals and rural areas/farmers party, try to sell themselves in as that alliance environment party.
Moderaterna - Supposed to be liberal-conservative. But to get more voters they have approached the politics of the Socialdemokraterna. They pushed through the current migration politics with the environmentalist party and the following two parties above and one below but claim to be against it now when they are in opposition. For freedom of choice and capitalism and liberalism and open borders and trade but realistic when it comes to voter support so not necessarily for lower wages, destruction of the welfare, tolerant of immigrants and so on. Ass-kissing liberals so to say.
Kristdemokraterna - Christian/religious/family/humanist value social-conservative economically liberal party. I guess it's what I perceive as the most sane of the bunch now. Sweden is so agnostic and progressive that they aren't actively against abortion or homosexuals and so on AFAIK. Guess this would be the most American party of our parties? But with more support for families (but including liberal solutions, such as parents taking their "newborn children period" in whatever way they want or be free to have one parent at home and so on.
Sverigedemokraterna - Social-conservative nationalist liberal-for-Swedes anti-immigrants and pro assimilation party. The supposedly "Nazis" and fascists and brown ones and dangerous and anti-humans and..
There's a huge lack of neo-liberals in the Swedish parliament. The center and christian and possibly moderate party could had been such but due to their alliances and real-politics they can't really act like that and have to find a mixture which work and grant them voters.
Can't they have a label for when it may or may not? And use that for those who don't want to have to be bothered with it?
Or companies feel that consumers in other states will avoid the products if they say they contain GMO ingredients? I guess then they have made their choice. Personally I'm not sure I would care if I lived in the US. Also I would just take "may" for what it is, just as it was before.
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Absurd?
No. The ones I know which worked just fine.
I used MUI + MagicWB because it's an improvement over AmigaOS Workbench but still about the same. Afterstep because Next, NextStep, Steve Jobs and that it was a decent UI. I guess BeOS and OS/2 could had been thrown in too:
http://lowendmac.com/wp-conten...
http://ps-2.kev009.com/michaln...
CDE because it's the standard(?) or was on Solaris machines(?), I don't know what it replaced if anything.
FVWM is very configurable so I don't know if any of the looks are standard but it's old, known and look typical enough.
All those in total are six different examples of user-interfaces I think look pretty decent. They are all "complete different" which was kinda a joke with saying "the standard" but on the other hand looking at them like this they kinda all is very similar with highlightened and shaded buttons to give them a 3D feel / separate them, and lines and grey. Maybe it's not the best user-interface but it's very clear were everything is.
Like now I use Chrome but if I minimize this window then Steam sit behinds with it's completely own user-interface with much smaller buttons so I can't simply press on the same spot multiple times to minimize all my windows because they don't line up. How much of a crappy design isn't that?
Also the damn close button which sit in the corner of the window where if the window for whatever reason isn't fully maximized you may accidentally close some other window behind it or whatever it is which may happen. Also in Windows the close button sit together with the rest and even up until this day not all programs KNOW TO ASK WHATEVER ONE REALLY WANT TO CLOSE THEM DOWN!! Something like Chrome will just close the window / shut down and that's it. No "Do you really want to close this window with 35 tabs?" - no such thing, just close it all down!! No worries!
One the one hand I've kinda liked custom user interfaces when they are done right - like with Adobe Lightroom maybe I can accept it - I guess the difference is within whatever they live on a separate full screen themselves and have their own work-space or whatever they are windowed applications sharing the environment and space with other programs.
I guess in general I'm against non-standard user-interfaces AS LONG AS THE STANDARD IS A GOOD ONE.
Take KDE for instance - tool-bars, large tabs, vertical text written in rotated mode! Tree structures for selections here and there. I hate it. I'm ok with KDE as such but the user-interface is shit. I like that it's one environment but the user-interface used for it all isn't the best it could be IMHO.
In Windows I hate that I can't pull a drawer from explorer into a file selector dialog to enter that directory (or a file either I guess), I have to navigate through their explorer within the file selector dialog.
I don't really know how this is on topic on the user-interfaces above let alone the /. post whatever the topic was for that one - oh, Vivaldi 1.0, got it.
Oh well, back to topic then I guess:
I liked the old Opera - I like clever features and Opera was the inventor of many of them. The new Opera (and Edge) lost capabilities and I hate that. However Opera doesn't follow the native user-interface and I don't like that. I dislike tabs which somehow holds close gadgets within them which will be really cramped and when you want to switch tab you may eventually close one instead because supposedly it also held a close gadget.
So much poor design in user-interfaces. But I like the FEATURES of the good old Opera and Vivaldi.
Go with the standard:
http://www.file-extensions.org...
http://xwinman.org/screenshots...
http://xwinman.org/screenshots...
http://xwinman.org/screenshots...
And how bad is text on a regular tablet really?
Do people really find that disturbing or is it just ok / good enough to not care about an e-ink display at all?
Color and sound were considered toys for a long time. You only needed them to play games. Real work was done on Green/Amber Screens.
And Apple solved that by releasing the inferior much more expensive Macintosh. PC guys rejoice:
https://youtu.be/7h4tepFbMso?t...
Also more color on the Apple II and CGA effectively lowered resolution.
https://youtu.be/_rsycfDliZU?t...
https://youtu.be/niKblgZupOc?t...
Back then people had serious discussions about what sort of storage controller, network interface, and upstream connectivity was needed to achieve this result. Nowadays we can stuff that same performance in a trouser pocket. What an age to live in.
Some things never change though.
Virgin then - virgin now.
Guess the computer usage haven't changed much either. I use Windows 10 now but even still I don't have functional sleep (IE/Edge still suck too.)
Internet-dating has caught up and now is even more looks-minded than actual party-"dating."
I find it helpful. I was pondering buying a Kindle. Now I'll wait for the new models.
I've been thinking about getting an ebook reader too but sales are plummeting and so many seem to be ok with reading text on their regular IPS tablets too.
I want to check out comic books too, I would be somewhat ok with poor colors but I want some colors, also I saw some e-ink reader/tablet which run full Android but the updates of those screens are so horrible.
All that kinda make me wonder whatever maybe I should just get a tablet anyway instead.
This doesn't mention color and I guess I'm no longer all that interested in a black and white e-ink device.
Thoughts?
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Re:Pretty standard boilerplate... (Score:4, Informative)
by Calydor ( 739835 ) Alter Relationship on Monday April 04, 2016 @10:10AM (#51836449)
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Seem like what one person consider freedom is another persons shady prison =P
(also https://fosswire.com/post/2007...)
True, but they seem to be ignoring the basic functionality of their marketplace, which is where the money for all that comes from. It's like if Amazon had let their storefront stagnate 5 years ago in favor of JUST doing their special projects. I dunno. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe those are all money-making projects, but I doubt it.
What's the problem with their marketplace?
One thing they have been doing there is trying to increase the safety for misused accounts so it will be harder to sell or give-away someone elseÂs stuff.
because its not illegal when the president does it.
Say who and what army?!
So what the hell does "Ubuntu will primarily run on a foundation of native Windows libraries" mean? "Ubuntu" is an OS with the Linux kernel and pre-configured utilities, programs and drivers put on top of that, but TFS is indicating that "Ubuntu" in this case is not including a kernel, utilities, or drivers. Unless this is an extremely mangled, obscure, and moronic way of saying that Windows 10 will be including a Linux compatibility layer sponsored by Ubuntu.
You have to parse TFS through sed to get the real message.
"This will not be in a virtual machine"
"Microsoft and Canonical will not, however, sources say, be integrating Linux per se into Windows."
Ok, so it's not Linux. But it's Ubuntu/Windows so to say.
"real native Bash Linux binary running on Windows itself"
So Windows will be ABI compatible with Linux?
"just as on Linux, because it is Linux"
But earlier you said it wasn't? It's Ubuntu not Linux?
"You can apt-get"
Yeah I know but apt-get isn't Linux specific.
There's a sucker born every minute. People who believe this is a free gift never heard of a Trojan Horse, and the people following the cheerleaders never heard of a Judas Goat.
Yeah, because RichardÂs GNU are so much better.
Free and free.. Yeah, practically. Microsoft haven't granted me a free Windows 10 license though (if any Microsoft employee / someone want too you've got my e-mail address though.)
That's why we must never allow the representative democracy be subverted. Direct democracy is a danger to our life style
And by "our" we mean the ruling elite?
"A majority of societies are ok with how societies work and don't care enough for protecting the freedom of expression and opinions of those who don't, at-least not if that also allow more extreme people who don't like their society to act as-well."
Such fucking news.
Maybe they can with correctness call it "for democracy" as long as that democracy mean "for the views we the majority has decided to be the only correct ones", if the idea of a democracy is to be able to spread various opinions and effect society however then I don't see how it's democratic regardless of what those views are.
"Ironically, the hacker is a former Jew"
Is an African American who develops a bizarre hatred of African Americans suddenly no longer black?
Is a white man who believes that whites are responsible for all the evil in the world suddenly Native American?
He can disavow Judaism - plenty of Jews do it. They're called "secular Jews." They're still Jews, and he is, too.
Can one become American?
Maybe you are correct on how it should be labeled but I guess one can both have Jewish parents, be a believing Jew, be part of a Jewish community, identify as Jew, ...
Also I don't see why Nazism and destruction of Jews necessarily have to go hand in hand.
The German Nazis wanted to create one nation for them and do whatever they thought was best for that one and sure, in their view the Jews was a problem there and led to the genocide of the Jews.
However if you had Jewish Isareli Nazis would they go around killing themselves? No. They would more likely kill Palestinians and Muslims and whatever. If the purpose of having one race / people whatever in the nation.
IMHO having on nation for your people is likely a good thing and multiculturalism is retarded since it's blind to the fact that not everyone wants it. That doesn't mean that I think Jews has to go, or anyone else.
Not serious:
1) Let country launch space object. ..)
2) Tear it into pieces.
3) Point at North Korea (or Russia or whatever middle-eastern or African country or
Mean-while Kim Jong-un announces their latest space-satellite is a huge success and work just as intended.
Not serious:
1) Let country launch space object. ..)
2) Tear it into pieces.
3) Point at North Korea (or Russia or whatever middle-eastern or African country or
Your thoughts about the model of the Linux kernel is simply wrong.
It may not use much resources for those not using the drivers though anyway. Just because it's in the kernel source code doesn't necessarily mean you have to load it even though you don't need it.
many more PS4s in the wild than there are PCs that meet the minimum specs of the Rift.
Then again none of those Playstation 4s reach it either .. So.. Guess the PC players got that covered anyway.
Now if we talk PCs who reach the computing performance of the Playstation 4 there will at-least be more of them (than the better performing ones), whatever that's more than the PS4s I don't know, possibly? Likely? I don't know what the sales are of the graphics cards, could likely rather easily find some.
I'm not sure how valid the "but it's cheaper" argument the summary makes is.
It is very valid.
$399 doesn't include camera and move controllers but $550 does. The PS4 is $350 so you get a complete package for $900.
The HTC Vive includes controllers but is $800 and you need at-least a $800 PC to reach up to the spec they want which is $1600 in total and almost twice as expensive as the Sony solution.
Already $900 would seem expensive for a family toy for most but paying twice as much .. well.. That's not really for families at all but rather enthusiasts.
Says the Celt-Norse-Brit? ;D
I don't really get the need for the attitude, if there existed zero evidence for it then I wouldn't mention it, however as you said in my case "don't believe that's intentional" maybe the same can be said about the harshness in your comment. But I assume it was, but you kinda covered it up by kinda stating being too harsh may not be valid because my "lies" wasn't intentional so whatever.
Over to the posts.
The stuff I've seen HAS BEEN lower performance on SteamOS. As for WHY that's is the case I don't really care. The main reason reason people would be against switching OS would likely be lack of applications, in this case the games they are or want to be playing, the second reason for gamers would likely be for lower performance if they switched. Lower performance may cut it for some ideologists but it won't cut it for the majority which focus about THE GAMES and not the operating system.
There's what is now old tests of early versions of SteamOS, maybe I really shouldn't use those.
Here's one on Arstechnica from 13th November 2015, it shows performance for ValveÂs own Source-based games:
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/...
SteamOS 2.0 vs Windows 10:
Portal: 107.1 vs 146.2 FPS
Team Fortress 2: 89.2 vs 114.3 FPS
Left for Dead 2: 49.1 vs 50.1 FPS
DOTA 2 (Source 2 version?): 60.0 vs 70.6 FPS.
They also cover Metro: Last Light Redux:
Min settings, SteamOS 2 vs Windows 10: 40.0 vs 50.5 FPS
Max settings, SteamOS 2 vs Windows 10: 4.2 vs 9.5 FPS
and Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor:
Lowest, SteamOS 2 vs Windows 10: 61 vs 95.5 FPS
Low, SteamOS 2 vs Windows 10: 55.3 vs 87.0 FPS
Medium, SteamOS 2 vs Windows 10: 42.1 vs 63.3 FPS
High, SteamOS 2 vs Windows 10: 39.2 vs 50.7 FPS
Very high, SteamOS 2 vs Windows 10: 35.9 vs 46.9 FPS
Ultra, SteamOS 2 vs Windows 10: 14.6 vs 34.5 FPS
Phoronix, 6th August 2015, test performance of Ubuntu OpenGL vs Windows 10, http://www.phoronix.com/scan.p...:
OpenArena, slight lead for Ubuntu, at most by 12.4%.
Xonotic, massive lead for Windows, at most 344.9% faster.
Arma III about the same in the clip you pointed out I'd say, but maybe I would had preferred the Linux version anyway because it's the slowest parts of the game-play which matter the most.
Googled for Total War on Steam OS and Windows and found this of TW: Attila which shows better performance on SteamOS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
16th November 2015, SteamOS vs Windows 10:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Geekbench: Winner Windows 10.
Unigine Heaven: Winner Windows 10 (46.5 vs 48.8 FPS.)
Borderlands 2: Winner Windows 10 (34.1 vs 38.6 FPS.)
Metro: LL: Winner Windows 10 (37.5 vs 42.3 FPS.)
Alien: Isolation: Winner Windows 10 (46.8 vs 54.2 FPS.)
Shadow of Mordor: Winner Windows 10 (~42 vs ~47 FPS.)
8 February 2015, CS:GO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Kinda a wash, either side leads at times.
As for Vulkan:
17 February 2016: http://www.anandtech.com/show/...
Fury X:
OpenGL: 51.8 FPS
Vulkan: 56.9 FPS (beta)
DX11: 97.8 FPS
980Ti:
OpenGL: 62.6 FPS
Vulkan: 65.8 FPS
DX11: 91 FPS
Not on topic but somewhat related I think the performance using DX12 in Gears of wars was worse too? Or was it just that AMD cards performed worse with that version? (It is a GameWorks title.)
As I said with completely new games and engines from people who know what they are doing that may change but as is anyone who owns The Talos Principle who were exited about Vulkan support and who hopped for even bet
Might be about time to move the gaming rig over to SteamOS.
So far the performance has been quite a bit worse on SteamOS than on Windows. I don't see why this update would change that. So far Vulkan has performed worse than DirectX too but I assume that will change with new games/engine versions by competent developers.
Who cares? It's a toy OS written in a toy language. It'll join the thousands of other pet project OSes that no more than a handful of people will ever use.
Yeah you're right.
Let's focus on running this one OS which was developed by the guy who didn't even had an OS at all when he sold it and who smashed an idea of a graphical interface he found out about on top or that small toy project from that Minix user guy.
"Your forgot one!" (well, many of course), yeah, the one from that on drugs marketing guy.
Here in Sweden all sorts of people likely want to call themselves liberals because it sounds good and carries no stigma and the left calls anyone opposing immigration for fascist even though the socialist by definition is fascists for all I care, they may be open for immigration rather than not but they are still for a large authoritarian state (or global communism as if that was any better or changed shit.)
But if one were to be more honest about them they should and would be split into social-liberals and neo-liberals (classical liberals.)
As for the parties I guess they are:
(Not in the parliament) Feministiskt initativ - Created by party leader of VÃnsterpartiet (former communist party) below, feminist and pro-immigration party of the same. They are all pretty similar, say they are all socialist parties but one which focuses on feminism brand, one on communism, welfare, unions and anti-capitalism and one on environment and mass-immigration.
VÃnsterpartiet - Former communist party, social-democratic anti-capitalists pro-government for immigration and human "rights" and welfare for everyone and against borders with revolutionary voters and an over-representation by immigrants.
MiljÃpartiet - Former environmental party, used to be pretty liberal but is social-democratic with tolerance of market / free-choice for services and such when they think that may benefit the person. Very "humanist" so to say, want free immigration and open borders.
Socialdemokraterna - Social-democrats. Social-liberals with a realistic view on immigration and capitalism vs socialism, for unions and with a very left/communist/pro-immigration/communist/revolutionary young voting group. Allied with Islamists. Mostly united with the two above because they can't rule otherwise.
Liberalerna, former Folkpartiet - (Social-)liberals.Very consistent.
Centerpartiet - Liberals and rural areas/farmers party, try to sell themselves in as that alliance environment party.
Moderaterna - Supposed to be liberal-conservative. But to get more voters they have approached the politics of the Socialdemokraterna. They pushed through the current migration politics with the environmentalist party and the following two parties above and one below but claim to be against it now when they are in opposition. For freedom of choice and capitalism and liberalism and open borders and trade but realistic when it comes to voter support so not necessarily for lower wages, destruction of the welfare, tolerant of immigrants and so on. Ass-kissing liberals so to say.
Kristdemokraterna - Christian/religious/family/humanist value social-conservative economically liberal party. I guess it's what I perceive as the most sane of the bunch now. Sweden is so agnostic and progressive that they aren't actively against abortion or homosexuals and so on AFAIK. Guess this would be the most American party of our parties? But with more support for families (but including liberal solutions, such as parents taking their "newborn children period" in whatever way they want or be free to have one parent at home and so on.
Sverigedemokraterna - Social-conservative nationalist liberal-for-Swedes anti-immigrants and pro assimilation party. The supposedly "Nazis" and fascists and brown ones and dangerous and anti-humans and ..
There's a huge lack of neo-liberals in the Swedish parliament. The center and christian and possibly moderate party could had been such but due to their alliances and real-politics they can't really act like that and have to find a mixture which work and grant them voters.
Can't they have a label for when it may or may not?
And use that for those who don't want to have to be bothered with it?
Or companies feel that consumers in other states will avoid the products if they say they contain GMO ingredients?
I guess then they have made their choice. Personally I'm not sure I would care if I lived in the US. Also I would just take "may" for what it is, just as it was before.
Speaking of which, has anyone figured out how to get someone to Mars without being killed by exposure to the natural radiation in route?
Call it environmental enrichment? Don't be so biased against it you bigot, you're just pro earth and hate everything else because it's different!