It's like Slashbots are stuck in the 90s. Have you even used a version of Windows other than the 9x series? There are no memory leeks and "intermitant" BSODs. I have never seen a BSOD on 2k or XP. I don't even know what they look like.
When I have to use MS, I use win2k, never touch 98 or XP.
You people are so technically shallow when it comes to Windows. I think it's on purpose. If you're having redraw problems, did you not stop to think that it really sounds a lot like a driver configuration problem?
I should have made this clearer, sorry. The redraw problem is contained in each of the programs, such as Mozilla and IE. IT tenst to effect the programs the draw graphics, but not my terminal emulator programs. Occationaly web pages will render, but the fonts will be in some horrible font. Scrolling will cause the program window to get smudged. The problem goes away for a month or two after a clean install, then starts to creep back in slowly, and get worse over time. Perhaps it is an errant program that has been installed, but that is no excuse. The OS should prevent that from happening. It looks to me like there is a resource issue at play within the drawing functions.
As for the technicaly shallow part, as my oldest daughter would say: "whatever...", with eyes rolling back in head.
X is a part of your OS. Unless you're staring at a command prompt all day, which isn't much of an OS, sorry.
X is decidedly _not_ part of the kernel, but it is part of the distribution. It is not required to make the machine useful. This is a major diferance between BSD/Linux, and MS. X is a User Space program, MS integrates (IMHO) too much of the graphical functionality too close to the heart of the system.
And, yes, sometimes I do stare at a terminal all day. I do most of my programming in a plain old terminal (or an xterm). I run X to get Mozilla, several xterms, and some other graphical programs running. None of my servers have any X related software installed on them, and they all seem to run fine with out it. They are all very good servers despite having a terminal interface for a console.
Perhaps I should clarify that my Windows box makes it two weeks before I install security patches.
I have had MS boxes act fine in the past, with long up times, but my current system has to get reinstalled every so often just to make it usable again (and by that I mean not needing to reboot it every other day). I find that the screen will intermitantly not refresh, or scroll properly after a couple days of uptime to be most annoying.
I can't say the patches don't come out any faster for MS then they do for linux, there seems to be some every other day from various distros in the Linux world. (perhaps I really should try some of the BSDs) However, I rarely need to take my system down to install most of the patches (which, to me, is a real bonus).
9x/ME blew chunks big time! I find that win2k is tolerable (it sucks much less, even with good hardware) but I still cannot get the same stability as I can with my trusty redhat box.
I will admit that I am not a fan of MS, and that there are probably some simple admin type things that I am probably not adept at WRT Win2K that I could be doing.
Losing a bad reputation is like trying to unring a bell. No matter what MS does now, they will have to wait a long time for the ringing im _my_ ear to stop.
Oh, God! 10 comments and ALL 10 are silly jokes about Beowulf clusters. If we need a Beowulf cluster then that would be to scan/. traffic and filter such stupid jokes out.
Can we at least install on/. some neural-network scanners that would mod all such obsolete jokes down?
Perhaps a perl plugin module where you can upload your own filter code to prescan the comments.... /. would probably need a cluster of some sort to run it though...
My system has been up for over two weeks without any of those problems.
Wow, a whole two weeks?
How convenient to blame Windows instead of finding the real problem.
Windows is the favorite whipping boy on this site, but deservidly(sp?) so. Rife with security holes, memory leaks, and intermitant and unexplained BSODs, its reputation preceeds it.
My windows box (at work) can't make it two weeks, with out the symptoms described by the parents comments about screens not redrawing and such.
Now my non-ms desktop at home stays up for several months at a time, it is always able to redraw the screen, and remains responsive even under heavy loads. Every few months or so I have to restart X to get it to stop piggin' up the RAM (but that is not the OSes fault). I have to reboot it when I want to load a new kernel every 6 months or so.
It might be easy to just "blame windows", but then again MS just makes it so easy.
I have no problem if a journalist turns over his or her personal notes to the FBI if it will help them in their prosecution.
I have no problem if a journalist turns over thier notes too, but if s/he is coerced into doing it (via the courts or otherwise) then I have a problem with it.
Seems to me like the FBI is taking the PATRIOT-ACT out for a little spin to see what kind of milage they can get out of it....
The hardware is theoretically capable of it. But even though I'm a Linux advocate, I'm not convinced that there would be much point in running Linux on it. If that's what you want, get a Zaurus or something.
It may be capable, but might not be practical. I'm just asking because of the total hack value of doing it.:-)
The modern telco system never ceases to amaze me. Givin that the system was created so long ago, and that there has been a more or less seamless blend of old and new techonlogy for decades and it still work is just amazing.
I'm interested in this technology because one of my clients is insisting that he _should_ get 56k between two modems that he uses for backup network access. I tried to explain that it is next to imposible to do since half the 56k equasion is having a digital modem bank on the reciving site. But I have no documentation to prove this....
The other thing that gets me is that the telcos are not out for the public infrastructure, they are out for the shareholders (which is not a bad thing in a capitalist economy) However over the long haul this will prove to be a mistake for the telcos. Just like any other buisness, if you do not prepare for the future with investments you will end up dying.... ahh, but I digress.
The HP 49G+ has similar capabilities to the HP 49G, but with a larger display (25% more pixels), faster processor (75 MHz ARM), more memory, better keyboard, USB interface, and an SD slot for flash memory expansion.
Lets cut to the chase here, will it run our favorite OS?
I still have, and carry around my HP 11C. I guess I'm just sentimantal, I used it all though college. I do enjoy the looks on peoples faces when they ask to borrow a calulator, and then ask where the '='s key is.:-P
Thing is, last time I flew I was allowed to use my laptop, except during take-off and landing... so this may be a airline to airline based rule.
This probably has more to do with needing to stow everything under your seat or in the overhead compartment duing these critical times of the flight, then with the EM interferance (I hope).
If the critical functioning systems of a plane are suseptable to the EM radiation from a computer or a cell phone, how long until a terrorist creates a cell phone jamming device to "jam" the planes avionics? Should they consider shielding the avionics like they did the cockpit door?
Or is this just more of the same: "don't use your cell phone on the plane, use the convinient onboard phones we've installed, or the terrorists win (because it cuts into the bottom line)"?
If you do not fix the problem at the root, you leave yourself open to other, possibly larger, problems.
Ahh, the fond memories of trying to find a SCSI card and CD disk drive that was supported. It ran on my third "real" machine, a 386-33 with 8 megs, may it RIP.
Of course, its rather moot in your case. If thats what you have for customer service, you won't be owning that ISP for long.
I read the original post and it sounded like he would be in a group sharing a common connection to the Interner. If they have a single point of entry into my network, and some machine is spewing forth crap, they are getting cut off until the issue is resolved. Period
My ISP has been running in its current incarnation for over 3 years, and I expect that it will continue to keep running well into the future. My cusotmer service consists of patience, education, and preventative maintinence. I work closly with all my clients that require it. I have never had to cut anyone off, and none of my clients have the "screw the world, I have paid for this bandwidth and I can spew forth anything I damn well please" attitude.
Why would the original poster be worried about being cut off if his network was not causeing problems? If he was cut off mistakenly, then that is a whole other issue.
The minute my machine is ever turned off because someone near me has a virus is the minute I cancel my account and change providers.
And good riddance to you ya buddy. Speaking as an ISP owner, people that do not take responsibility for thier own networks and own machines can cause me more headaches, which ultimatly cuts into MY BOTTOM LINE. Your losing me money, you want switch provers and (here is the best part) you want to switch to a competitor so they lose money on you? How exactly do I lose here? Sounds win-win to me:-)
I will never allow a phone line or computer into my kids rooms. They can use it in the library, front room, or dining room. I'm sorry, but I knwo what I did when left alone with a computer in 1980, so I know what they will try.
It is a double edged sword having a geek for a parent. My girls have thier own computers on a Dual T1 line. The computers are in the family room. All connections the net are proxied, and various popup sites filtered. They know that Dad is all knowing and all seeing, at least when it comes to the home network (I'm sure they think otherwise for everything else)
AMTP associates certificates with reverse-DNS so that histographic ideas like your suggestion can be effective.
I like the idea and generally agree with you. If we can get everyone to do it... I guess you could get an automatic reduction in your spam score coming from an authenticated IP address. I think that is what we can hope for to start with.
It is nice to see someone attacking the problem in a nice and novel way to. Kudos to you!
Therefore, your ISP would have a cert to say "yes I really am someisp.com" when sending your mail.
Well I am my own small ISP and I move about 10,000 emails a day for me any my clients (much of which is spam). _I_ would still have to pay an outragious sum for a cert...
What I would like to see is a Mail server with some memory of its history with other mail servers. Histogram of SMTP transations, by IP, sender id and domain, and recipient id and doamin. If you are getting hundreds of spams from an IP address, it would be nice to tar pit/block the SOB with a simple interface into the system, with automatic expiry times. It is the automatic expiry times that are key. If you do not have that it makes going back and cleaning up the future collateral dammage/innocent victims impossible to manage.
The SPAM problem would be significantly reduced if there were software to easly manage incoming mail using statistics by a human. The automates systems are ok, up to a point.
I would write something myslef, but I'm too busy combating the problem to have time. *sigh*...
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But then again, I live in Frederick, Oops, I mean Fredneck...
You people are so technically shallow when it comes to Windows. I think it's on purpose. If you're having redraw problems, did you not stop to think that it really sounds a lot like a driver configuration problem?
I should have made this clearer, sorry. The redraw problem is contained in each of the programs, such as Mozilla and IE. IT tenst to effect the programs the draw graphics, but not my terminal emulator programs. Occationaly web pages will render, but the fonts will be in some horrible font. Scrolling will cause the program window to get smudged. The problem goes away for a month or two after a clean install, then starts to creep back in slowly, and get worse over time. Perhaps it is an errant program that has been installed, but that is no excuse. The OS should prevent that from happening. It looks to me like there is a resource issue at play within the drawing functions.
As for the technicaly shallow part, as my oldest daughter would say: "whatever...", with eyes rolling back in head.
X is a part of your OS. Unless you're staring at a command prompt all day, which isn't much of an OS, sorry.
X is decidedly _not_ part of the kernel, but it is part of the distribution. It is not required to make the machine useful. This is a major diferance between BSD/Linux, and MS. X is a User Space program, MS integrates (IMHO) too much of the graphical functionality too close to the heart of the system.
And, yes, sometimes I do stare at a terminal all day. I do most of my programming in a plain old terminal (or an xterm). I run X to get Mozilla, several xterms, and some other graphical programs running. None of my servers have any X related software installed on them, and they all seem to run fine with out it. They are all very good servers despite having a terminal interface for a console.
Perhaps... hey wait, I am the admin!
Perhaps I should clarify that my Windows box makes it two weeks before I install security patches.
I have had MS boxes act fine in the past, with long up times, but my current system has to get reinstalled every so often just to make it usable again (and by that I mean not needing to reboot it every other day). I find that the screen will intermitantly not refresh, or scroll properly after a couple days of uptime to be most annoying.
I can't say the patches don't come out any faster for MS then they do for linux, there seems to be some every other day from various distros in the Linux world. (perhaps I really should try some of the BSDs) However, I rarely need to take my system down to install most of the patches (which, to me, is a real bonus).
9x/ME blew chunks big time! I find that win2k is tolerable (it sucks much less, even with good hardware) but I still cannot get the same stability as I can with my trusty redhat box.
I will admit that I am not a fan of MS, and that there are probably some simple admin type things that I am probably not adept at WRT Win2K that I could be doing.
Losing a bad reputation is like trying to unring a bell. No matter what MS does now, they will have to wait a long time for the ringing im _my_ ear to stop.
Can we at least install on /. some neural-network scanners that would mod all such obsolete jokes down?
Perhaps a perl plugin module where you can upload your own filter code to prescan the comments....
/. would probably need a cluster of some sort to run it though...
yeah, But will they run linux?
Wow, a whole two weeks?
How convenient to blame Windows instead of finding the real problem.
Windows is the favorite whipping boy on this site, but deservidly(sp?) so. Rife with security holes, memory leaks, and intermitant and unexplained BSODs, its reputation preceeds it.
My windows box (at work) can't make it two weeks, with out the symptoms described by the parents comments about screens not redrawing and such.
Now my non-ms desktop at home stays up for several months at a time, it is always able to redraw the screen, and remains responsive even under heavy loads. Every few months or so I have to restart X to get it to stop piggin' up the RAM (but that is not the OSes fault). I have to reboot it when I want to load a new kernel every 6 months or so.
It might be easy to just "blame windows", but then again MS just makes it so easy.
I have no problem if a journalist turns over thier notes too, but if s/he is coerced into doing it (via the courts or otherwise) then I have a problem with it.
Seems to me like the FBI is taking the PATRIOT-ACT out for a little spin to see what kind of milage they can get out of it....
It may be capable, but might not be practical. I'm just asking because of the total hack value of doing it. :-)
I'm interested in this technology because one of my clients is insisting that he _should_ get 56k between two modems that he uses for backup network access. I tried to explain that it is next to imposible to do since half the 56k equasion is having a digital modem bank on the reciving site. But I have no documentation to prove this....
The other thing that gets me is that the telcos are not out for the public infrastructure, they are out for the shareholders (which is not a bad thing in a capitalist economy) However over the long haul this will prove to be a mistake for the telcos. Just like any other buisness, if you do not prepare for the future with investments you will end up dying.... ahh, but I digress.
Thanks for the original info!
interesting read, thas for the links!!
Lets cut to the chase here, will it run our favorite OS?
I still have, and carry around my HP 11C. I guess I'm just sentimantal, I used it all though college. I do enjoy the looks on peoples faces when they ask to borrow a calulator, and then ask where the '='s key is. :-P
I'm ready for some creeping out with my coffee this morning, got any links?
at least not in that order....
To quote my wife "Hon, you really need a job that doesn't wake me up @ 4am".
Perhaps they should certify the planes once and for all instead of these cockamamy restrictions on common protable electronic devices....
This probably has more to do with needing to stow everything under your seat or in the overhead compartment duing these critical times of the flight, then with the EM interferance (I hope).
Or is this just more of the same: "don't use your cell phone on the plane, use the convinient onboard phones we've installed, or the terrorists win (because it cuts into the bottom line)"?
If you do not fix the problem at the root, you leave yourself open to other, possibly larger, problems.
or the banana jr...
Ahh, the fond memories of trying to find a SCSI card and CD disk drive that was supported. It ran on my third "real" machine, a 386-33 with 8 megs, may it RIP.
I read the original post and it sounded like he would be in a group sharing a common connection to the Interner. If they have a single point of entry into my network, and some machine is spewing forth crap, they are getting cut off until the issue is resolved. Period
My ISP has been running in its current incarnation for over 3 years, and I expect that it will continue to keep running well into the future. My cusotmer service consists of patience, education, and preventative maintinence. I work closly with all my clients that require it. I have never had to cut anyone off, and none of my clients have the "screw the world, I have paid for this bandwidth and I can spew forth anything I damn well please" attitude.
Why would the original poster be worried about being cut off if his network was not causeing problems? If he was cut off mistakenly, then that is a whole other issue.
And good riddance to you ya buddy. Speaking as an ISP owner, people that do not take responsibility for thier own networks and own machines can cause me more headaches, which ultimatly cuts into MY BOTTOM LINE. Your losing me money, you want switch provers and (here is the best part) you want to switch to a competitor so they lose money on you? How exactly do I lose here? Sounds win-win to me :-)
It is a double edged sword having a geek for a parent. My girls have thier own computers on a Dual T1 line. The computers are in the family room. All connections the net are proxied, and various popup sites filtered. They know that Dad is all knowing and all seeing, at least when it comes to the home network (I'm sure they think otherwise for everything else)
I like the idea and generally agree with you. If we can get everyone to do it... I guess you could get an automatic reduction in your spam score coming from an authenticated IP address. I think that is what we can hope for to start with.
It is nice to see someone attacking the problem in a nice and novel way to. Kudos to you!
Well I am my own small ISP and I move about 10,000 emails a day for me any my clients (much of which is spam). _I_ would still have to pay an outragious sum for a cert...
What I would like to see is a Mail server with some memory of its history with other mail servers. Histogram of SMTP transations, by IP, sender id and domain, and recipient id and doamin. If you are getting hundreds of spams from an IP address, it would be nice to tar pit/block the SOB with a simple interface into the system, with automatic expiry times. It is the automatic expiry times that are key. If you do not have that it makes going back and cleaning up the future collateral dammage/innocent victims impossible to manage.
The SPAM problem would be significantly reduced if there were software to easly manage incoming mail using statistics by a human. The automates systems are ok, up to a point.
I would write something myslef, but I'm too busy combating the problem to have time. *sigh*...