I did see them find one of these live on the news (they caught the truck trying to drive away, and I believe they killed the driver to make it stop...that part was not on the news) and they got a quick tour of it.
I believe the computer generated images on the left (at the top) were used in his speech. His speech highlighted remarks about this in the yellow.
Well, I would be ashamed if I gave an international speech and turned out to be wrong. Wouldn't you? Whether partly, or completely, wrong, I would still feel like crap for it. Not to mention that may ruin any political ambitions he had.
Wait, you're actually going to try and argue that a truck with a hidden compartment in it, which had been modeled in testimony as evidence, was used for something like refining oil on the go?
Obviously it is a good quality control scheme to clean these chemical trucks just to keep them clean, but amazingly, I find it hard to believe that was the purpose. Call me cynical.
Let's see, we have a mad dictator who wants the world to believe he is developing, or already has WMDs (and using them on his own people kind of proved this). Providing no evidence of their destruction, other than his word, we are supposed to believe him. Give me a fucking break.
You can disagree with me all you want, but your reply was about as pathetic as it gets. My entire post was to show that, while you may be correct in your assessment, you chose the worst example to give, that's ALL. They DID show these trucks in satellite pictures. They showed them on LIVE television, too, as we looked for our smoking gun and expected these to be it. What kind of farming refinement is done in a hidden part of a truck? Last I checked, oil refinement was not some mystical process needed on the fly in mobile areas. No, that's why there are refineries (hereafter known as "magical wells"). Crazier developments happened in the 19-20th centuries to boost effectiveness and, shall we say, throughput.
In a poverty stricken country that had obvious issues of oppression relating to the dictator's people staying in power, while the other classes of people starved or died, I find it hard to believe that these trucks were out helping people to find cures to diseases or refine 2 of the 3 things you mentioned (I still laugh when I remember you saying, "farming" as a purpose for these trucks). Super clean environments are synonymous with farming in third world countries, I guess.
Pop quiz. Globally Accepted, Evil Dictator has a hidden chemical lab in the back of trucks disguised to look like they are not labs uses it for:
(A) Oil Refinement, because it really needs to be hidden.
(B) Farming, because he is so worried about the conditions of his people and loves them all, and to keep up his evil image he had to hide it.
(C) Chemical Weapon development, enrichment, or refinement, because he could not do it out in the open.
(D) Both A and B.
(E) Nothing, because he saw it in the magazine and thought it was so pretty that he just needed a few!
If you picked (C) or (E), then you can move on to round 2.
Hey, the Americans were crushed in both the Gulf War and OIF. Well, according to him anyway. He obviously is trustworthy and would not even lie about something that obvious (oh, and Israel does not exist on maps).
As you said at the end, there are no protectors. Even the arm band does not protect the screen, rather it protects the click wheel (and costed me $30!).
I noticed the second day that I had mine that I had scratched the screen, and I only used the arm band, while being extremely careful (though I worked out with the arm band on, which I assumed was appropriate). At worst, the screen made contact with the arm sleeve of my shirt while I was lifting, or running afterwards. If you want to defend that, then be my guest, but I do tend to find it unacceptable and I will gladly accept people's thanks for testing a product so that Version 2 is awesome because really, the iPod nano is AMAZING with the exception of the ease to scratch the surface.
My screen is all sorts of scratched up now, but I can still easily see through them to read everything (I am guilty of putting it in my pocket twice, but the pocket was empty). Considering the profit they are making with this, they could have given every iPod nano a free protective case (random color, in order to encourage people to buy their own if they did not like the color, but something beats nothing!) while they worked out the problem. Instead, I am going to be forced to buy 5 protective cases (packs of 5...) in order to get the one or two that I want to protect my iPod in a reasonable fashion at a rediculously expensive cost.
Do not get me wrong, I love my iPod nano and it is my first Apple product. I will probably buy from them again. However, I will not make the mistake that has been pointed out more than once in replies here, which is to buy a first generation Apple product. It's a horrible company excuse, and they did go down a few pegs in my book for it, but they got me and it won't go down that way again.
What democractically elected government did we topple? Iraq? No. Afghanistan? No. Saddam won by 99%!! Ya, that's legit. Reagen did not even win by 99%, and he was not gassing his own people.
Corporate control? Where? "Enron!" No. Every country has corporate interests fighting for control on issues. Lobby groups lobby people, and if our congressman/senator/president agrees with the lobbyist and you do not, then we vote for someone else (that's called Democracy, and we're a Republic anyway). Sometimes for better, and sometimes for worse, but that is life.
Torturing people? I am sure it was a direct order from the president to tie up and scrutinize prisoners, as those rediculous MPs did. They did not even hurt them, they simply humiliated them. Sorry, but give me that as opposed to having my hand(s) chopped off for using US currency, probably by those people. Or maybe at Guantanamo Bay? Ya, terrible! They label the boards on the floor to avoid disturbing the prisoners while they are praying with squeeks. HORRIBLE! Or maybe you mean, how they lowered the AC to a very cold (almost out doors in late Fall cold) and made him sit there! Hitler would be proud!! Maybe some people do not get it. I mean it is a hard concept. Asking a question over and over to a person whose beliefs fall somewhere around desiring to kill me, and the person asking the questions (not for imprisoning him, but rather for living) is not going to break because you asked it 3 times in a row. This is not Austin Powers. We cannot beat the hell out of these people, so what do we do? We make them uncomfortable. We get their minds on something else so they do not realize they are slipping up. We are not beating them uncontrollablely, and be happy I am not in charge because we would be, and there would be no word of it either.
That 4 year wait in France is so wonderful compared to our standards, I guess. Anyone arrested is given a trial, here, even the terrorists. Awesome, isn't it? On the other hand, we are idiotically giving trials to people we caught on the battle field (AKA, Prisoners of WAR, AND they do not get any rights because they are not uniformed! It works out legally written, in our favor, even if no one wants to recognize it).
This organization, which believed that the judicial proceedings had violated a number of international norms relating to fair trial, noted that 24 defendants had been held in provisional detention for over four years before the opening of the trial, and of these a large number had reportedly been held in isolation.
Did you just throw in pollution for fun? Hurt that we do not sign your precious Kyoto Treaty? Oh darn. I do not know what to tell you, other than that when alternate fuel systems come out, it will be because of us, not you. So, in short, we are doing more, but using more. It's a sad fact, but that's why we are a bigger nation (Damn big, bad, arrogant Americans, right? Don't start stuff, then, dip.).
Oh ya, I forgot that trucks with hidden compartments are always used for legitimate procedures. Plus, they are so legitimate that they have the highest quality cleaning procedures used on them to avoid detection of what they were doing.
Right, thanks for clearing that up.
Nit pick something reasonable, like simply there were NO WMDs found in Iraq. Not the, "oh, you found a Chemical Weapons vehicle that was scrubbed down, so obviously you were making crap up!" Of all the things to talk about, that one does not go in your favor. It's pretty damn obvious what those trucks were for and the cleansed nature of them lends itself to the fact that they were used for unscrupulous behavior. They weren't mobile pizza places.
I do tend to agree that they were probably lying about the 0 profit threshold and seeking pity (and maybe even purchases because they are 'that good/fair of a company'). However, I think we will all agree that the RIAA et co are a bunch of greedy jerks, not to mention the credit card processing fee. Chances are they are making literally pennies on the dollar (I'd guess about 5 cents per song, maybe?). At millions of songs though, that's a good amount of profit.
I still hold to the fact that the RIAA has no reason to get the iPod money (and I know you are not arguing that), but they have no legitimate claim to getting money from ITS.
Doesn't Apple only break even from their music sales? Of course they would want iPod sales and not really care about iTunes.
I tend to be on the side of MS, so I'm not exactly an Apple fanboy, but I don't see what Apple is doing wrong here? Their business is selling iPods and the only benefit the iTune's Music Store brings is that it locks users into the iPod (unless they know to burn the music to CDs, then rip them).
Honestly, if the music industry think everyone is doing it so poorly (selling music), then they could do it themselves. It's just a matter of making a website and selling all of their music. Then they can control the cost, the advertising, and the DRM. It would suck, be expensive, and probably return everyone to piracy, but it would be what they wanted.
That can't be true, because they do have a cut of the iTunes Music Store's revenue. They get paid for their song.
I think he honestly believes they deserve a cut of the hardware sales that run the music. It's like a game maker telling Dell they deserve a cut of their profits from gaming machines.
In my former HS district (former because I am now about to graduate from college) came in under budget regularly.
We had all of our books, computers (albet crappy ones by my standards, but not as crappy as those listed above) and they even heavily renovated a school. A year into college though, a bunch of school board members lost their election, or left on their own and now the board goes over budget and changed renovations to new schools simply because they can.
Why should you have to go to a class to be taught by a person that does not even make up the tests?
I'm sick of hearing about paying full tuition (scholarships are another thing), and then being forced to listen to every professor who thinks he deserves some power.
Not to long ago you could skip the entire semester, so long as you came in and took the test(s), and you were fine (if you did well:)). Now, you have professors monitoring people like they are children. What's worse, is some professors then complain when people sleep in class, or show up late. You cannot have it both ways! You don't want them sleeping in class or coming late? Don't force them to come to class.
I've never slept in class, but I saw a lot of people that did (some put to sleep by the teacher...).
A professor cannot help you do a question that they had nothing to do with. Yes, they could very well know how to do it themselves, but depending on the numbers and the problem. I have had experience with these automatic tests, with teachers that teach the class. The tests covered a few things that we never even went over because WE missed a day (the class was cancelled, not I skipped). Good times, right?
What a joke of a reply. Don't run on admin status and see if they install. Yes, they do. The installer is given the right to install stuff, blame the installer for installing something you do not want. Blame
It's like blaming Linux in general for installing KDE when you wanted GNOME with Red Hat (or vice versa, I do not use Red Hat Linux anymore... probably comes with both).
The only way to down play a virus would be to not run in admin, but it would not STOP a virus from installing (and if it did, then you are going to run into a lot of issues with users being stopped from installing legitimate things, unless a virus scanner stopped the installation). Too many people think that a computer virus is this mystical beast that attacks Windows. They are just computer programs meant to do bad things and, usually, be hidden while they do it. They're almost always very simple. WORMS are the complicated ones that abuse flaws.
You're right! You should be able to bad mouth your bread and butter, publicly, and keep the job you have! I mean, it's not like that hurts the business.
Here's your cake, and, oh you want to eat it too?
It's illegal for a business to do things differently from their business plan available to their investors. Investors do not get the nitty gritty detail, and they should not because of the likelyhood that they would try to micromanage things already being over managed in many cases.
Customers deserve to know that a product is coming to them, and a schedule of it. They have NO right to look into a company and see things ranging from this to pety issues with Dick and Sally about Sally cheating on him.
It could have been right from BSD. BSD has the best and most open license, free. None of this "free as in beer" stuff. No, it is 100% free, with no strings attached.
Only 200 people out of like 900 of the short listed people could run 2.2 miles in under 20 minutes?
Wow. I can run over 3 miles in under 20 minutes, and I know people that can do 3 miles in under 16 minutes (5 minutes and change per mile, I know). Think they would send an American to space?
I think a lot of people overlook the true innovations brought on through Microsoft Research. Just because you see it first somewhere else, does not mean the original idea of such a thing was not from another place. There are plenty of features that MS has clearly taken from other products, but there are just as many features that have been taken from MS products. How long before everyone mimics Office 12's new menu system? If someone beats them to market, then does that mean MS stole the feature? Obviously, no.
Also, your point about Linux picking up in percentage stake hold because of $10,000 machines does not really fit too well because I do not see how a $5,000 computer, maybe as fast as a modern machine (because of a lack of competition) would be better just because it is running on Linux? I would much rather have a less than $1,000 beast of a computer running Linux, than a good computer that costs $5,000.
People did not see MS as a non-innovator prior to it being labeled a monopoly. Plug-n-play? Did not see that anywhere else. Simple networking (just turning on your computer and plugging it into a network) and it finds everything for you? Most things are still playing catch up on that. Not to mention they made the step of making Virtual PC for Mac's. I don't see a Virtual Mac piece of software. C#? A lot of people like to scream Java copy, but that is really only syntactally; there are tons of features in C# that do not, or did not, exist in Java (including a well done form of templates using Generics... Java implementation for backwards compatibility is just horrible). Java was not really anything new, except it was better advertised. WinFS, with all of its delays, seems to be getting done right, which means it is not rushed and it will be innovative.
Long story short, both companies have some great innovations behind them, and ahead of them. I LOVE my iPod nano, but I also enjoy a lot of MS products.
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Piracy is stealing whether you download it, or just buy it from a guy on the street that burnt it to a CD.
It's pretty simple, just because you have to justify it to yourself does not really matter.
I did see them find one of these live on the news (they caught the truck trying to drive away, and I believe they killed the driver to make it stop...that part was not on the news) and they got a quick tour of it.
I believe the computer generated images on the left (at the top) were used in his speech. His speech highlighted remarks about this in the yellow.
Well, I would be ashamed if I gave an international speech and turned out to be wrong. Wouldn't you? Whether partly, or completely, wrong, I would still feel like crap for it. Not to mention that may ruin any political ambitions he had.
I'd think that even though you are right short term, it may lead to discoveries about content levels down the road.
Obviously it is a good quality control scheme to clean these chemical trucks just to keep them clean, but amazingly, I find it hard to believe that was the purpose. Call me cynical.
Let's see, we have a mad dictator who wants the world to believe he is developing, or already has WMDs (and using them on his own people kind of proved this). Providing no evidence of their destruction, other than his word, we are supposed to believe him. Give me a fucking break.
You can disagree with me all you want, but your reply was about as pathetic as it gets. My entire post was to show that, while you may be correct in your assessment, you chose the worst example to give, that's ALL. They DID show these trucks in satellite pictures. They showed them on LIVE television, too, as we looked for our smoking gun and expected these to be it. What kind of farming refinement is done in a hidden part of a truck? Last I checked, oil refinement was not some mystical process needed on the fly in mobile areas. No, that's why there are refineries (hereafter known as "magical wells"). Crazier developments happened in the 19-20th centuries to boost effectiveness and, shall we say, throughput.
In a poverty stricken country that had obvious issues of oppression relating to the dictator's people staying in power, while the other classes of people starved or died, I find it hard to believe that these trucks were out helping people to find cures to diseases or refine 2 of the 3 things you mentioned (I still laugh when I remember you saying, "farming" as a purpose for these trucks). Super clean environments are synonymous with farming in third world countries, I guess.
Pop quiz. Globally Accepted, Evil Dictator has a hidden chemical lab in the back of trucks disguised to look like they are not labs uses it for:
(A) Oil Refinement, because it really needs to be hidden.
(B) Farming, because he is so worried about the conditions of his people and loves them all, and to keep up his evil image he had to hide it.
(C) Chemical Weapon development, enrichment, or refinement, because he could not do it out in the open.
(D) Both A and B.
(E) Nothing, because he saw it in the magazine and thought it was so pretty that he just needed a few!
If you picked (C) or (E), then you can move on to round 2.
Hey, the Americans were crushed in both the Gulf War and OIF. Well, according to him anyway. He obviously is trustworthy and would not even lie about something that obvious (oh, and Israel does not exist on maps).
I noticed the second day that I had mine that I had scratched the screen, and I only used the arm band, while being extremely careful (though I worked out with the arm band on, which I assumed was appropriate). At worst, the screen made contact with the arm sleeve of my shirt while I was lifting, or running afterwards. If you want to defend that, then be my guest, but I do tend to find it unacceptable and I will gladly accept people's thanks for testing a product so that Version 2 is awesome because really, the iPod nano is AMAZING with the exception of the ease to scratch the surface.
My screen is all sorts of scratched up now, but I can still easily see through them to read everything (I am guilty of putting it in my pocket twice, but the pocket was empty). Considering the profit they are making with this, they could have given every iPod nano a free protective case (random color, in order to encourage people to buy their own if they did not like the color, but something beats nothing!) while they worked out the problem. Instead, I am going to be forced to buy 5 protective cases (packs of 5...) in order to get the one or two that I want to protect my iPod in a reasonable fashion at a rediculously expensive cost.
Do not get me wrong, I love my iPod nano and it is my first Apple product. I will probably buy from them again. However, I will not make the mistake that has been pointed out more than once in replies here, which is to buy a first generation Apple product. It's a horrible company excuse, and they did go down a few pegs in my book for it, but they got me and it won't go down that way again.
Corporate control? Where? "Enron!" No. Every country has corporate interests fighting for control on issues. Lobby groups lobby people, and if our congressman/senator/president agrees with the lobbyist and you do not, then we vote for someone else (that's called Democracy, and we're a Republic anyway). Sometimes for better, and sometimes for worse, but that is life.
Torturing people? I am sure it was a direct order from the president to tie up and scrutinize prisoners, as those rediculous MPs did. They did not even hurt them, they simply humiliated them. Sorry, but give me that as opposed to having my hand(s) chopped off for using US currency, probably by those people. Or maybe at Guantanamo Bay? Ya, terrible! They label the boards on the floor to avoid disturbing the prisoners while they are praying with squeeks. HORRIBLE! Or maybe you mean, how they lowered the AC to a very cold (almost out doors in late Fall cold) and made him sit there! Hitler would be proud!! Maybe some people do not get it. I mean it is a hard concept. Asking a question over and over to a person whose beliefs fall somewhere around desiring to kill me, and the person asking the questions (not for imprisoning him, but rather for living) is not going to break because you asked it 3 times in a row. This is not Austin Powers. We cannot beat the hell out of these people, so what do we do? We make them uncomfortable. We get their minds on something else so they do not realize they are slipping up. We are not beating them uncontrollablely, and be happy I am not in charge because we would be, and there would be no word of it either.
That 4 year wait in France is so wonderful compared to our standards, I guess. Anyone arrested is given a trial, here, even the terrorists. Awesome, isn't it? On the other hand, we are idiotically giving trials to people we caught on the battle field (AKA, Prisoners of WAR, AND they do not get any rights because they are not uniformed! It works out legally written, in our favor, even if no one wants to recognize it).
Did you just throw in pollution for fun? Hurt that we do not sign your precious Kyoto Treaty? Oh darn. I do not know what to tell you, other than that when alternate fuel systems come out, it will be because of us, not you. So, in short, we are doing more, but using more. It's a sad fact, but that's why we are a bigger nation (Damn big, bad, arrogant Americans, right? Don't start stuff, then, dip.).I am not one of those friends of yours.
Right, thanks for clearing that up.
Nit pick something reasonable, like simply there were NO WMDs found in Iraq. Not the, "oh, you found a Chemical Weapons vehicle that was scrubbed down, so obviously you were making crap up!" Of all the things to talk about, that one does not go in your favor. It's pretty damn obvious what those trucks were for and the cleansed nature of them lends itself to the fact that they were used for unscrupulous behavior. They weren't mobile pizza places.
I do tend to agree that they were probably lying about the 0 profit threshold and seeking pity (and maybe even purchases because they are 'that good/fair of a company'). However, I think we will all agree that the RIAA et co are a bunch of greedy jerks, not to mention the credit card processing fee. Chances are they are making literally pennies on the dollar (I'd guess about 5 cents per song, maybe?). At millions of songs though, that's a good amount of profit.
I still hold to the fact that the RIAA has no reason to get the iPod money (and I know you are not arguing that), but they have no legitimate claim to getting money from ITS.
I tend to be on the side of MS, so I'm not exactly an Apple fanboy, but I don't see what Apple is doing wrong here? Their business is selling iPods and the only benefit the iTune's Music Store brings is that it locks users into the iPod (unless they know to burn the music to CDs, then rip them).
Honestly, if the music industry think everyone is doing it so poorly (selling music), then they could do it themselves. It's just a matter of making a website and selling all of their music. Then they can control the cost, the advertising, and the DRM. It would suck, be expensive, and probably return everyone to piracy, but it would be what they wanted.
I think he honestly believes they deserve a cut of the hardware sales that run the music. It's like a game maker telling Dell they deserve a cut of their profits from gaming machines.
We had all of our books, computers (albet crappy ones by my standards, but not as crappy as those listed above) and they even heavily renovated a school. A year into college though, a bunch of school board members lost their election, or left on their own and now the board goes over budget and changed renovations to new schools simply because they can.
It's rediculous.
Plus we'll see how well Blue Ray works out.
I'm sick of hearing about paying full tuition (scholarships are another thing), and then being forced to listen to every professor who thinks he deserves some power.
Not to long ago you could skip the entire semester, so long as you came in and took the test(s), and you were fine (if you did well :)). Now, you have professors monitoring people like they are children. What's worse, is some professors then complain when people sleep in class, or show up late. You cannot have it both ways! You don't want them sleeping in class or coming late? Don't force them to come to class.
I've never slept in class, but I saw a lot of people that did (some put to sleep by the teacher...).
A professor cannot help you do a question that they had nothing to do with. Yes, they could very well know how to do it themselves, but depending on the numbers and the problem. I have had experience with these automatic tests, with teachers that teach the class. The tests covered a few things that we never even went over because WE missed a day (the class was cancelled, not I skipped). Good times, right?
I could imagine the people getting motion sick. It would be funny to watch.
Good catch.
It's like blaming Linux in general for installing KDE when you wanted GNOME with Red Hat (or vice versa, I do not use Red Hat Linux anymore... probably comes with both).
The only way to down play a virus would be to not run in admin, but it would not STOP a virus from installing (and if it did, then you are going to run into a lot of issues with users being stopped from installing legitimate things, unless a virus scanner stopped the installation). Too many people think that a computer virus is this mystical beast that attacks Windows. They are just computer programs meant to do bad things and, usually, be hidden while they do it. They're almost always very simple. WORMS are the complicated ones that abuse flaws.
Coming with the installer? Show me too.
Here's your cake, and, oh you want to eat it too?
It's illegal for a business to do things differently from their business plan available to their investors. Investors do not get the nitty gritty detail, and they should not because of the likelyhood that they would try to micromanage things already being over managed in many cases.
Customers deserve to know that a product is coming to them, and a schedule of it. They have NO right to look into a company and see things ranging from this to pety issues with Dick and Sally about Sally cheating on him.
It could have been right from BSD. BSD has the best and most open license, free. None of this "free as in beer" stuff. No, it is 100% free, with no strings attached.
Not even that pro-American.
Wow. I can run over 3 miles in under 20 minutes, and I know people that can do 3 miles in under 16 minutes (5 minutes and change per mile, I know). Think they would send an American to space?
Also, your point about Linux picking up in percentage stake hold because of $10,000 machines does not really fit too well because I do not see how a $5,000 computer, maybe as fast as a modern machine (because of a lack of competition) would be better just because it is running on Linux? I would much rather have a less than $1,000 beast of a computer running Linux, than a good computer that costs $5,000.
People did not see MS as a non-innovator prior to it being labeled a monopoly. Plug-n-play? Did not see that anywhere else. Simple networking (just turning on your computer and plugging it into a network) and it finds everything for you? Most things are still playing catch up on that. Not to mention they made the step of making Virtual PC for Mac's. I don't see a Virtual Mac piece of software. C#? A lot of people like to scream Java copy, but that is really only syntactally; there are tons of features in C# that do not, or did not, exist in Java (including a well done form of templates using Generics... Java implementation for backwards compatibility is just horrible). Java was not really anything new, except it was better advertised. WinFS, with all of its delays, seems to be getting done right, which means it is not rushed and it will be innovative.
Long story short, both companies have some great innovations behind them, and ahead of them. I LOVE my iPod nano, but I also enjoy a lot of MS products.