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Malaysians to Vote on First Astronaut

wengkius writes "According to BBC, Malaysians will be voting for their candidate of choice in the nationwide search for an astronaut to be sent to the ISS on board the Russian Soyuz spacecraft. Once its 11,000 would-be astronauts have been whittled down to a handful, their details and updates on their progress will be posted on the internet. If the contest proves popular and the government charges for the votes, it may even be able to cover the cost of its space program."

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  1. New on Fox... by pin_gween · · Score: 4, Funny

    Malaysian Astronaut Idol

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    1. Re:New on Fox... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Malaysian Astronaut Idol

      That's not too bad an idea. There are plenty of those reality talent search shows in Malaysia, and I wouldn't mind shipping the contestants off into space.

      Just think, strapping them onto huge, combustible rockets and flinging them into outer stratosphere...

      And we won't need a return ticket :)

    2. Re:New on Fox... by antdude · · Score: 1

      Oh boy, throw in Simon in it making remarks on the candidates. :)

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    3. Re:New on Fox... by aminorex · · Score: 1

      One thing seems a foregone conclusion: The winner will be an ethnic Malay, given the racial apartheid system used to suppress the 40% of the Malaysian population which is not Malay.

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    4. Re:New on Fox... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wait... isn't Malaysia... are you sure? can't believe it!

  2. Reality show by Black+Parrot · · Score: 4, Funny


    Except you get voted off the planet instead of an island.

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    1. Re:Reality show by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      why not make it into a reality show?
      Maybe because Malaysians aren't 300 pound reality TV watching idiots?

    2. Re:Reality show by Rahga · · Score: 1

      "Maybe because Malaysians aren't 300 pound reality TV watching idiots?"

      You insensitive clod!

    3. Re:Reality show by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    4. Re:Reality show by bbc · · Score: 1

      "They could call it, "Who Wants to Be Shot into space on Outdated Russian Gear millionare?""

      Yeah, and the losers get to fly the Space Shuttle.

  3. Obligatory. by Rahga · · Score: 0, Redundant

    1) Buy a seat on Russian Spacecraft
    2) Charge your citizens to vote on who gets to fly. Bonus points for call-in votes during a TV show: Cosmonaut Idol.
    3) Profit!!!!

    1. Re:Obligatory. by ZeroExistenZ · · Score: 2, Funny
      Cosmonaut: n. A Russian or Soviet astronaut.

      I'm curious how the Malaysian version would be called.
      Malonauts?

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    2. Re:Obligatory. by Rahga · · Score: 1, Interesting

      I don't know, but seeing as how Mark Shuttleworth and Dennis Tito have been labeled Cosmonauts after completing their training, the same may apply here. One definition of Cosmonaut out there is "A crew member of a space mission launched by the former Soviet Union"

    3. Re:Obligatory. by FidelCatsro · · Score: 1

      In the same way that cosmonauts come from Cosmussia

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    4. Re:Obligatory. by ichigo+2.0 · · Score: 1

      Lies!
      Next you'll probably tell us the A in U.S.A. stands for something else than Astron!

    5. Re:Obligatory. by ZeroExistenZ · · Score: 1
      Ofcourse not.

      For those having their humor surgically removed, from wikkepedia: astronaut, cosmonaut, spationaut or taikonaut (yuhangyuan):

      In the USA, a space traveller is called an astronaut. The term derives of the Greek words ástron ("star") and nautes, ("sailor"). For the most part, "cosmonaut" and "astronaut" are synonyms in all languages, and the usage of choice is often dictated by political reasons.

      ...

      Taikonaut is sometimes used in English for astronauts from China by Western news media. The term was coined in May 1998 by Chiew Lee Yih from Malaysia, who used it first in newsgroups. Almost simultaneously, Chen Lan coined it for use in the Western media based on the term tàikng (), Chinese for space. In Chinese itself, however, a single term yháng yuán (, "universe navigator") has long been used for astronauts and cosmonauts. The closest term using taikong is a colloquialism tàikng rén (, "space human") which refers to people who have actually been in space. Official English text issued by the Chinese government uses astronaut.

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    6. Re:Obligatory. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "For those having their humor surgically removed,"

      The GP was obviously a joke . I think you had a temporary humour bypass

    7. Re:Obligatory. by Viceice · · Score: 2, Interesting

      'Angkasawan'.

      That's the Malay word for astronaut.

      'Angkasa' means space.

      '-wan' is a suffix to denote a man whose occupation is that of the word the suffix is attached to. It's similar to '-ician' (i.e dietician, electrician, politician) in English, but the Malay version is gender specific.

      Also, if the person who goes turns out to be female, then we use the '-wati' suffix instead.

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    8. Re:Obligatory. by gronofer · · Score: 1
      Hang on, as a citizen, what do I get out of this?

      Why should I pay to help you choose your astronaut, and what makes you think I know anything about astronauts in any case?

      Maybe I'd just choose the politician I liked the least, or a lawyer.

      Now there's a thought. Maybe I'll pay after all, but on the condition it's a one-way ticket.

  4. "charges for the votes" by decipher_saint · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Charging for votes seems a bit odd to me; if you wanted to be in space you really could just buy your vote.

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    1. Re:"charges for the votes" by Kymermosst · · Score: 1

      Charging for votes is also simply a bad precedent for a government to set. If people get used to the government charging for votes, it may just end up that the government charges for *every* vote at some point in the future.

      Just a bad idea all around. Glad we got rid of that idea here.

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    2. Re:"charges for the votes" by jafiwam · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Yeah. I am sure Malaysia is not a cesspool of political and voting corruption already or anything.

      Oh, and they have a great civil and human rights record too!

      Rolls eyes

    3. Re:"charges for the votes" by Frogbert · · Score: 1

      I think thats kind of the point, say you have Joe P Somebody who wants to get into space, what's to stop him setting up a few hundred mobiles to constantly message votes for him 24/7? Well if each vote costs say $1 then this method will not be very effective.

    4. Re:"charges for the votes" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whoever voted the parent Flamebait, don't you really think Malaysia is a good place with equal human rights? What's the problem of bragging about something good? You AH.

  5. I nominate George Bush by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It'll be fun, like being a cowboy!

    1. Re:I nominate George Bush by tkokesh · · Score: 1

      Just as long as they don't bring him back.

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  6. Malaysia is a bit optimistic by technoextreme · · Score: 1, Interesting

    http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/ap_050829_mal aysia_moon.html NASA says they are going to reach the moon in about the same time the Malaysians say they want to go the moon. NASA believes this is possiblebecause of the fact that we have all this former technology to use (Space Shuttle and Apollo). Malaysia has none of that.

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    1. Re:Malaysia is a bit optimistic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      On the other hand, Malaysia presumably doesn't have much of an existing bureaucracy to maintain.

      I like to think of it as NASA is today's Microsoft while Malaysia's space program is a new startup.

    2. Re:Malaysia is a bit optimistic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm the same AC as the parent.

      I haven't read anywhere that Malaysia actually plans to build its own space program. The article talks about a Malaysian person piggy-backing on the Russians, so maybe they are saying that a Malaysian will piggy back on the US/China/whoever in 2020. If that's the case, the GP comment (and the parent that I wrote) are not relevant.

    3. Re:Malaysia is a bit optimistic by davandhol · · Score: 1

      How long did it take the US to go into the moon in the first place? If Malaysia wants to reach the moon in 2020 (15 years off), and the US did it in less a decade originally, who's to say Malaysia can't do it in its timeframe?

    4. Re:Malaysia is a bit optimistic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      US did it in less a decade originally, who's to say Malaysia can't do it in its timeframe?

      The fact that the US was the scientific leader of the world and not a shitbag little third world country?

    5. Re:Malaysia is a bit optimistic by Mr2cents · · Score: 1
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  7. Reality show by Mythfit · · Score: 0, Redundant

    If they really want to make their money back why not make it into a reality show?

    They could call it, "Who Wants to Be Shot into space on Outdated Russian Gear millionare?"

    Gives a whole new meaning to the catchphrase 'Your fired!'

  8. Good idea by stunt_penguin · · Score: 1

    Just as long as Simon Cowell doesn't make the judging panel (^^)

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  9. Seriously... by Comatose51 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    "The national space agency has already announced plans for a research programme to send the country's favourite foods into orbit and the selection process to find the Malaysian who will taste them in zero gravity is already well advanced."

    And some people complain that NASA's manned space program was a waste of money!

    "So far, only 200 short listed candidates have managed to run 3.5km (2.2 miles) in under 20 minutes and pass a medical."

    Any reasonably healthy person should be able to do that. I know I risk sounding very arrogant but don't send someone into space just for the sake of doing it. Pick someone with high qaulifications and do something useful. It's really a waste of money and an unnecessary risk otherwise.

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    1. Re:Seriously... by PickyH3D · · Score: 0
      Only 200 people out of like 900 of the short listed people could run 2.2 miles in under 20 minutes?

      Wow. I can run over 3 miles in under 20 minutes, and I know people that can do 3 miles in under 16 minutes (5 minutes and change per mile, I know). Think they would send an American to space?

    2. Re:Seriously... by drsquare · · Score: 1

      Someone who's healthy isn't necessarily good at running. 2.2 miles in 20 minutes is a pretty fast pace, it takes me that long to go about 1 mile, and I don't consider myself unfit.

      Bear in mind they're looking for astronauts, who need to be pretty fit, if only 200 in 900 can do it then obviously your definition of 'reasonably healthy' must mean marathon runners.

    3. Re:Seriously... by DrXym · · Score: 1
      I've always wondered about the fitness requirement. You can understand that you want someone who is medically fit for a several reasons a) that they don't drop (or float) dead, b) they weigh less, c) they may consume oxygen more efficiently. But I don't really understand how some artificial artifice such as running so many miles in so many minutes necessarily qualifies or disqualifies someone on that basis.


      After all, I'm pretty sure that any horse jockey qualifies quite easily but that doesn't mean they're the best man for the job.


      If that's the rationale, I think midgets should be sent up in space. Not only do they weigh less, savings can be made by miniaturizing their habitat and food / oxygen requirements.

    4. Re:Seriously... by rbanffy · · Score: 1

      It appears to me the single most stupid research line in the whole space exploration thing.

      And, since the mission involves essentialy eating, perhaps only 200 candidates weight less than 100 Kg (too lazy to convert)

    5. Re:Seriously... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Are you fucking kidding me? A 20 minute mile? You are NOT fit. That is very nearly the length of time it should take to WALK a mile. An average, reasonably healthy person should be able to run a mile in under 10 minutes. I'd suspect a majority of 18-25 year old men can run a mile in 8 minutes.

    6. Re:Seriously... by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 1
      Being physically fit is but one requirement. And a necessary one. Spaceflight is NOT akin to sitting in your lazyboy, looking out the window. Serious G forces and vibration on takeoff and reentry, the whole weightless thing in the middle, ability to handle different atmosphere environments. And the ability to keep functioning while under all that stress.

      That's one of the main reasons NASA chose military test pilots for the initial cadre of astronauts. They already had experience in all those regimes.

      A horse jockey may be able to do the basic running thing, but would he pass all the other requirements? Yes, we sent up John Glenn when he was old. But he started out as the best of the best.

      The Royal Malaysian Air Force flies F-18's and MiG-29's. Surely there's a few of those guys who would qualify. If not, their Air Force is in serious trouble. From fighter pilot to astronaut is not that big a leap. From horse jockey to astronaut is a far bigger one.

    7. Re:Seriously... by ppanon · · Score: 1

      Space launches often subject passengers to forces of 3-5 gravities for many minutes at a time. This places a significant stress on the cardiovascular system. Being able to meet certain running time/distance markers indicates a certain cardiovascular fitness level. If you don't have a large man-rated centrifuge, it's as good a way as any (and better than most) to make sure an astronaut isn't going to have a heart attack 2 minutes into the launch.

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    8. Re:Seriously... by imsabbel · · Score: 1

      The fitness requirement is there for a simple reason:

      3-5gs over several minutes during the launch of the rocket. With NO possibility to stop until orbit. Do or die...
      Somebody who isnt in trained could really die during the trip, because of simple respitory distress /broken rips puncturing stuff/ ect.

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    9. Re:Seriously... by ppanon · · Score: 1

      100Kg = 220 lbs.

      If you're under 6" and over 220lbs, you're either well bulked up with muscle or you think you are buff but look like Cartman. Either way, losing a few pounds won't kill you. No dehydrating yourself before the weigh in, either.

      Since they probably pay per pound, an upper limit is not unreasonable.

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    10. Re:Seriously... by damiam · · Score: 1

      1 mile in 20 minutes is 3 mph. I can walk faster than that, and keep it up for much longer than a mile (on flat ground), and I don't consider myself fit.

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    11. Re:Seriously... by drsquare · · Score: 1

      Well, I do at least an hour's exercise a day, and have done for years, and I struggle to run a mile in 15 minutes. I think it's more to do with technique than fitness, or bone structure.

    12. Re:Seriously... by Seumas · · Score: 1

      No kidding... Shouldn't it be more like... uh.. send the most qualified?... You know... as opposed to... "let's vote to see who deserves to go the most?"...

      *sigh*

    13. Re:Seriously... by DrXym · · Score: 1

      How does running so far in so many minutes indicate whether you're going to withstand the forces encountered during liftoff? If the answer is, "it doesn't", then why bother at all? They could just be stuck in a centrifuge and be done with it.

    14. Re:Seriously... by Fjornir · · Score: 1
      Er... A 15 minute mile is something like six feet a second. That's a brisk walk. I just pulled out the tape-measure in my flat and measured out 15 feet. I walked back and forth along it ten times, it took me all of 36 seconds. That's about 4 feet per second, and that included the time to turn around at each end of the "lap".

      If you "struggle" on a 15 minute mile despite an hour long exercise session daily I'm forced to ask what the nature of your disability is.

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    15. Re:Seriously... by fishbowl · · Score: 1


      "Someone who's healthy isn't necessarily good at running. 2.2 miles in 20 minutes is a pretty fast pace, it takes me that long to go about 1 mile, and I don't consider myself unfit.
      "

      You wouldn't qualify for a middle school track team.

      Never mind the *team*, you'd probably be disciplined for blowing off "jogging" in PE.

      Slow, casual jogging is about 8 km/h
      On the other hand, the fastest sprinters in the world have never reached 40 km/h.

      If someone is supposed to be flying a jet plane, let alone a spacecraft, I'd certainly think the ability to maintain a sustained run at a pace faster than jogging, is a reasonable requirement.

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    16. Re:Seriously... by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      "The national space agency has already announced plans for a research programme to send the country's favourite foods into orbit and the selection process to find the Malaysian who will taste them in zero gravity is already well advanced."

      The inexperienced "winner" may be so space-sick that even the thought of food will make them blow floating chunks on national TV. Children may get their first lesson in microgravity.

    17. Re:Seriously... by drsquare · · Score: 1

      You wouldn't qualify for a middle school track team.

      Well, there you're talking about people who regularly do running. 99% of people don't run at all, they've no need to. I'd expect someone who ran several miles every day to be able to do a 10-minute mile, but not most people.

      A mile's a pretty long way to go. If you look down a straight road and see something a mile away, then you realise how far away it really is. There's no way you could get from one end to the other in 10 minutes. That's absolutely impossible.

    18. Re:Seriously... by PickyH3D · · Score: 0, Troll
      Oh no! I mentioned a possiblely pro-American thing!

      Not even that pro-American.

    19. Re:Seriously... by GrungyLotG · · Score: 1

      Depending upon the conditions a 10 minute mile may or may not be challenging for an average athlete. If this was held on an extremly hot or humid day, the chances are that the runner would tire much faster than normal. However, under fairly good conditions, I have seen people run a 4-5 minute mile, although they could not retain such a fast pace for more than a mile to a mile and half.

      Of course I sit at computer for the majority of the day, so I would not be one to judge this standard by (:P).

    20. Re:Seriously... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's impossible to go 1 mile in 10 minutes?

      Hrm...the world record happens to be around 3:43. In fact, an over-40 runner broke the 4 minute barrier in '94 as well.

      Provided you aren't reaching your late middle to
      elderly years, you seriously need to speak to a doctor about your health.

    21. Re:Seriously... by fishbowl · · Score: 1

      "There's no way you could get from one end to the other in 10 minutes. That's absolutely impossible."

      It's a reasonable starting point for a daily jog. Millions of people do this, or more strenuous things, as a warmup. It is so far from impossible, you must be joking.

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    22. Re:Seriously... by iamlucky13 · · Score: 1

      I suppose the list of people who can do both that and pass their intelligence reviews is probably a lot shorter, but I agree, that sounds fairly simple. I wish it were that easy to get an astronaut's slot in NASA. You essentially have to have some sort of flight experience, and your chances are still pretty slim if you don't have a PhD or experience in military aviation.

    23. Re:Seriously... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just to inform everyone about how fast the world record is for distance events. Its really impressive and absurd how fast these guys go.

      Marathon (26.2 mi) 2:05:xx A 4:46 per mile pace
      10k (6.2 mi) 26:20 A 4:13 pace
      5k (3.1 mi) 12:37 A 4:04 pace!

    24. Re:Seriously... by doubtless · · Score: 1

      I am Malaysian and not exactly too proud of this myself. It's a bit ridiculous to have those kind of criteria for the candidates.

      Heh.

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    25. Re:Seriously... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah me too, I do finger exercise everyday, I don't even see daylight, I never need to run a mile, but who dare say I can't do 15 minutes a mile?

    26. Re:Seriously... by drsquare · · Score: 1

      Well, I live a more physical life than normal, I work a physical job and go everywhere on my bike, and I can't run a 10 minute mile, so what the hell's up? Where are all these millions of exercise freaks?

    27. Re:Seriously... by fishbowl · · Score: 1

      > I can't run a 10 minute mile

      Are you sure? I agree that 6 mph is past the threshold between a "brisk jog" and a "hard run",
      but I still say it's not an uncommon pace for the average casual enthusiast.

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    28. Re:Seriously... by Telcontar · · Score: 1

      I think you may have converted units wrongly. 20 minutes per mile is an easy walking pace, on flat ground. Everybody who is not disabled or injured can do that, without any training. Of course without training you will not be able to walk for many hours at this pace, but it is not hard.

      10 minutes per mile = less than 10 kilometers per hour. This is more than 6 minutes per kilometer. A reasonably fit person can hold this pace for half an hour when rested before. A regular runner can hold this pace for many hours.

      I did not run regularly five years ago, and could still easily do 10 minutes per mile for two or three miles. In the meantime, I have been training regularly (six times a week). This allowed me to run a marathon (42.195 km) at an average speed of less than 8 minutes per mile. Even at that speed, I was still *far* behind the elite runners, who run at about five minutes per mile. Sending a person to space who cannot even run *two* miles (rather than 26) at a much slower pace sounds pathetic to me.

  10. A stroke of genius... by JediLow · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "If the contest proves popular and the government charges for the votes, it may even be able to cover the cost of its space programme." How do you fund your space program? Create a competition... its actually a fairly ingenious idea, minus the fact that its laughable of course...

    1. Re:A stroke of genius... by fishbowl · · Score: 1

      "Charges for the votes?"

      That's not an election, it's an auction!

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    2. Re:A stroke of genius... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I dont know about your country, but competitions like Government and state Lotteries fund a lot of worth while projects here in OZ. Taxes from gambling also go a long way to funding our health system such that it is.

  11. Re:y'mean by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    This Island Earth?

  12. Top of the Ticket by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 2

    I vote for their Prime Minister. But not his spacesuit.

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    1. Re:Top of the Ticket by Viceice · · Score: 1

      Close... Actually it's the Deputy Prime Minister who should go.. this whole fiaco is his doing.

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  13. popularity contest? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I for one hope they pick qualified astronauts. Determining the effects of weightlessness in space on a gang of nubile babes is not the way to advance a bustling young space program.

    1. Re:popularity contest? by BiggerIsBetter · · Score: 1

      Are you kidding? It's exactly the way to advance the space program!

      Go to any engineering school and tell 'em the next space program intake will be full of Asian hotties with PhDs and just try to stop them excelling. People only do great things for two reasons - ego, and sex. I've done engineering, and believe me, these guys *would* go into space to get laid.

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  14. WTF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously WTF? Did I read it right that the Malaysian goverment is going to send someone to space just to have a bite of their favorite cuisines?

  15. Survivor: Malaysia by craXORjack · · Score: 5, Funny

    They should send up seven people but the re-entry capsule can only hold one.

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    1. Re:Survivor: Malaysia by jurt1235 · · Score: 1

      So you have to get voted out first to survive?

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    2. Re:Survivor: Malaysia by nastro · · Score: 1

      OK, how long would it take to deck out the ISS like Thunderdome?

      7 Men Enter! One man leaves!

      And this could all be fueled by pig shit, which is metaphorically provided by NASA every mission!

  16. Already tried... by JediLow · · Score: 1

    Actually... when the Mir Space Station was scheduled to go down the Survivor people tried to buy it from the Russian government...

    1. Re:Already tried... by Mazem · · Score: 1

      The funny thing is that its actually true...
      http://archives.cnn.com/2000/TECH/space/09/12/mir. survivor.ap/

  17. I hear you *but* by BlightThePower · · Score: 1

    surely sending any human into space is to some extent done for the sake of it at a level of unncessary expense and risk? Speaking of fitness, there is a side issue here, the Malaysian climate can be very oppressive; hot and very, very humid. It doesn't give any details, but if they picked the "wrong" day for this then that time would be more impressive than you think in view of the conditions.

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    1. Re:I hear you *but* by Comatose51 · · Score: 1
      They must be able to think of a better experiment than that. Even having school children come up with one that's picked by a panel of judges is better since at least that stimulates interests in science in the next generation.

      You're probably right about the running issue.

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    2. Re:I hear you *but* by Helish · · Score: 1

      Malaysia is hot and stinking humid, also it's summer there now which means it's even hotter. For those who have never looked on the map Malaysia is right on just north of equator, with it's most southern point just touching it.

      Being in Singapore which is right next to Malaysia, I can tell you that walking there for 5 minutes is a big effort. Try running for 5 minutes in a sauna, then you might get an idea what it's like. And I'm used to hot weather as well, since I've grew up in sunny and most of the time hot Queensland in oz.

      By the way when I went to Singapore 10months ago I was very fit individual (not any more), I went to gym there and I was able to squat 100kg and deadlift 120kg (I've a knee injury which prevents me from lifting any more weight). I also can sprint over 50m very quickly and then I get slower cause of pain in my knee. When I tried to run for a bus which was about 10m away it was very exhausting, the heat isn't the issue, it's the humidity, the sweat doesn't evaporate from your body and it doesn't cool it, which is why we sweat in the first place. The body overheats very very fast in those conditions when doing any sort of physical activity.

  18. How about a better qualification test? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I would've thought a medical test and some other kind of intelligence test would be better than voting, would'nt it?

    1. Re:How about a better qualification test? by freidog · · Score: 1

      If you had RFTA (wait this is /., nevermind),
      the voting comes from a shortlist of a few candidates, much like how Fox/American Idle choose a handful of decent candidates (as well as some pathetic morons for amusemnet) from the thousands that apply, so will the Malaysian space program will choose a few qualified candidates and the people will vote on them.

      And of course in the great tradition of misleading, or at least sensationalized headlines, the article only says 'the Malaysian space boses will factor the votes into their final decision.'
      Ie it's a gimic to get people interested in space, but probably won't have any real effect on the process.

    2. Re:How about a better qualification test? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, it seems to be nothing but a gimmick to me. I would personally think a scientific approach would lead to better results.

      The American Idol approach is probably not the best way to select the person who should be sent to space to do some real mission critical things, including research that very vew on this planet are qualified to do.

  19. How it is probably done by fliptout · · Score: 1

    Can't read the article right now, but I am guessing the way they "charge" for the votes is to take a percentage of the SMS fees. So, for the voter, it just costs the same as sending a text message, and the government will have a deal with the local telecoms (if they aren't state owned already) to get a share of those fees.

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  20. Go straight to the source by technoextreme · · Score: 1

    The Malaysia space agency.... http://www.baksa.gov.my/

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  21. We should also... by 808paulson · · Score: 0

    vote for our presidents

  22. Re:Why doesn't slashdot post the actual website by technoextreme · · Score: 1

    Ahhh pooo... Im sorry that I am dobule posting but I found the actual astronaut program website. http://www.angkasawan.gov.my/ Now here is a stupid question. Why doesn't slashdot post this in addition to a news report.

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  23. If American Idol.... by Dankling · · Score: 1
    Worldwide Astronaut! Coming to a Fox station near you!

    But seriously, ... no, I have nothing serious.

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    1. Re:If American Idol.... by Fjornir · · Score: 1
      But seriously, what's so wrong with this idea? I would watch a reality show based in a space camp somewhere (and that's me, no TV viewing for the last five years except for a few hours in hotel rooms when the bookstores were closed).

      Personally I'd like to see a space-lottery run in America. Grand prize could be a seat on a launch vehicle and some time in orbit with the real crew. Runner up prizes could be a week at space camp in houston or florida, hats, jackets, etc.

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  24. If slashdot picked the next astronaut by antifoidulus · · Score: 4, Funny

    The goatse man would be the next to be launched into space...

    1. Re:If slashdot picked the next astronaut by Ianing · · Score: 1

      Only after Hubble breaks down.

    2. Re:If slashdot picked the next astronaut by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      The goatse man would be the next to be launched into space...

      With our luck he will survive (another?) horrid accident and look even worse. Be careful what you wish for.

    3. Re:If slashdot picked the next astronaut by nacturation · · Score: 2, Funny

      I didn't realize NASA was planning a manned mission to Uranus.

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  25. Re:Stupid troll even the malyasias are having fun by technoextreme · · Score: 0, Flamebait
    Never ceases to amaze me how little respect Americans in general have for other countries. Read through the first 20 posts and just about every post is trying to crack a joke...at the expense of the Malaysians. Granted non-Americans are just as insensitive towards other cultures, this group is in the minority. Freedom of speech is one thing. Insulting/joking at the expense of others is hurtful, and reflects very poorly on the US as a whole. Disclaimer: I'm neither American or Malaysian. http://www.angkasawan.gov.my/800x600.jsp I found this on the Malaysian space program website.
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  26. Re:help me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bill, your biggest problem is posting as AC all the time. You really should seek help!

  27. Re:Stupid troll even the malyasias are having fun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just hate people who indent posts for no reason.

  28. At the very least... by andreyw · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If the Malaysian government is considering this, then Malaysians must have been expressing an interest in a space program for some time now. I can see what would happen if NASA did it - nothing because no one really cares. :-(

    A: "Want to vote for the next cosmonaut?"
    B: "No, Kanye is whining in the mic how the gubbemint hates black people..."

    Weren't we supposed to be already colonizing Mars?

  29. Re:Stupid troll even the malyasias are having fun by darklordyoda · · Score: 1

    Look closer. Most posts are cracking jokes at the expense of reality shows.

  30. I wonder... by zr-rifle · · Score: 1

    I wonder if there will be a CowboyNeal option.

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  31. Sheep astronauts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sheep reality show just ended here: http://www.stado.org/
    Every sheep that was voted out was slaughtered.

    I hope it tasted good.

  32. Oh My GOD!!!! by Viceice · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Ok. I am now officially embressed to be a Malaysian. Seriously though, this isn't news at all. This is simply a ticket into space our goverment got from the Russians who offered it as a sweetener to close a deal on a fleet of MiG fighters.

    I Seriously wish it was a one way ticket and they'd send our esteemed Defence Minister, who is also our useless ass of a Deputy Prime Minister.

    PLEASE I BEG ALL OF YOU! MOVE ALONG! THERES NOTHING TO SEE HERE!!!!!

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    1. Re:Oh My GOD!!!! by Tablizer · · Score: 1


      I Seriously wish it was a one way ticket and they'd send our esteemed Defence Minister, who is also our useless ass of a Deputy Prime Minister.

      Every country has its own Rumsfield it seems.

      By the way, can't one get in trouble in Malaysia for criticizing government officials? Singapore is like that, but I don't know how much of their approach has spilled over to their neighbors.

    2. Re:Oh My GOD!!!! by amontre · · Score: 1

      Seriously though, this isn't news at all. This is simply a ticket into space our goverment got from the Russians who offered it as a sweetener to close a deal on a fleet of MiG fighters.

      No it's not MiG fighters.. its a fleet of Su-30Mk.

    3. Re:Oh My GOD!!!! by deburg · · Score: 1
      No it's not MiG fighters.. its a fleet of Su-30Mk.

      Actually, you're both right. The original deal was with the MiG fighters back in 1994! Now the Su-30 deal is a extension.

    4. Re:Oh My GOD!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now what we need to do now to send our Defense Minister to space is to train him so that he passes the running test -- which is the hardest part.

    5. Re:Oh My GOD!!!! by npgmr · · Score: 1

      Unless one is a body builder turned politician, I think it's much harder to do the reverse.

    6. Re:Oh My GOD!!!! by TheLink · · Score: 1

      Sure you can. But most malaysian citizens aren't really that worried about that, because the Malaysia Gov isn't as efficient or ruthless as Singapore's so the Malaysian gov may lose track or lose the will or get distracted by sillier stuff (like this silliness for instance) after a while.

      Whereas the S'pore Government can probably keep track of their entire population down to their fingerprints and DNA... :)

      You may be surprised to know that the Malaysian Gov actually does listen to citizen complaints and thus often does things to make them happy even though it's not such a good idea - like allowing some U-turns on certain highways (which can make things a bit more dangerous).

      We just got quite bad press over the past years because our previous prime minister (Mahathir) had a knack for annoying various parties in the world (he often did have a good point though ;) ).

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  33. List missing CowboyNeal by infonography · · Score: 1

    How can you have voting if CowboyNeal is not on the list???

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  34. Amazing how things work out, isn't it? by mrRay720 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    In malysia the people vote for who goes into space.

    In the powerhouses of democracy such as the US, UK, etc. people are TOLD by a government agency who's going into space.

    Funny when you think about it.

    1. Re:Amazing how things work out, isn't it? by ari_j · · Score: 1

      What you forget is that the government agency in question is far more qualified to decide who is a capable astronaut than is the general populace. Also, the US is not a democracy. I'm not sure if the UK is, but I doubt it, as well.

      Some things are handled best with a public vote. This is not one of them.

    2. Re:Amazing how things work out, isn't it? by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "Funny when you think about it."

      I had to look at it in a really shallow way to find the humor in it.

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  35. Malaysia Could Be Hot Spot for Space Travel by FleaPlus · · Score: 2, Informative

    From this page:

    Malaysia Could Be Hot Spot for Space Travel

    Malaysia, according to a leading space authority, could be the next new focal point for space travel. Malaysia's central location makes it an attractive option for private commercial space travel companies and those interested in space exploration business, such as the Zero G Corporation and the Florida Space Authority. A 35-member Florida business delegation is scheduled to take a trip to Malaysia near the end of the month in order to look into investment and business possibilities.


    Also, from an article titled Malaysia to launch five third-generation satellites:

    KUALA LUMPUR (AFP) - Malaysia said it would launch five third-generation satellites from a site in the United States as part of its ambitious plan to become a developed country in 2020 and to meet defence needs. ...

    "We are moving to become an advanced economy and communications is important to meet our economic needs. Now we are relying on other people's satellites. For security needs for instance, can we completely rely on other people's satellites?" ...

    The third-generation satellites offer higher-resolution images. They provide specific and timely data for mapping departments in agricultural countries and geographical information for companies located near the equatorial belt.

    "This (the satellites) is for the strategic needs of the country. For our economic and defence needs of our country, we must have our own capacity in space," Jamaluddin added.


    So, I guess even if Malaysia doesn't have any launchers themselves yet, they seem to have satellite construction down.

  36. Insert... by Viceice · · Score: 1

    Insert "[1F13] Deep Space Homer" refrence... HERE!

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  37. Enough already by iamlucky13 · · Score: 0, Troll

    What is people's sick fascination with "the goatse man?" Why does he have to be referred to over and over again in every single discussion? Are you people really that much in love your twisted image that you have to mention it everywhere you go? I don't care about who does what in Soviet Russia, or what Roland Pixiedust or whatever his name is posts, first posts, or even the eternal classic "haha, their server got pwned," but for goodness sake, enough with the stupid goatse references!

    Do your worst mods. I've got plenty of karma to burn and can easily gain anything back without so much as thinking goatse. It's a race to -1.

  38. Do they have to be Malaysian? by ifwm · · Score: 1

    Because I can think of a lot of people I'd like to launch into space.

  39. Like the movie Contact... by vistic · · Score: 2, Insightful

    They will pick someone very likeable and intelligent, but then the person will be asked if they are Muslim or not (Malaysia is full of Muslims). The candidate will say it shouldn't matter. And her chances of going into space will be dashed to bits.

    1. Re:Like the movie Contact... by everithe · · Score: 1

      And good-looking too. -.-"
      I wonder how the government will stand it if a non-bumiputera becomes their next space idol.

  40. Re:Why doesn't slashdot post the actual website by kakibesar · · Score: 1

    Someone please mod parent up!!

  41. I cast my vote for.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Inanimate Carbon Rod!!

  42. AFundi Mawi!! by GhodMode · · Score: 2, Funny

    AFundi Mawi!!
    AFundi Mawi!!
    AFundi Mawi!!

    One way trip!!

    ...

    If you're not in Malaysia, you don't get it ::shrug::

    1. Re:AFundi Mawi!! by chawly · · Score: 1

      Been there, done that. Three people in that capsule. Fsck you and all of yours.

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  43. So in Malaysia... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    a Padawan is someone whose occupation is to play Pong?

    1. Re:So in Malaysia... by Viceice · · Score: 1

      NOnono!

      Padawan's occupation would be to 'occupy' Padme ;)

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  44. Actually.... by Carlinya · · Score: 0

    This was never his idea. Before this whole thing started again I was informed that he threw the whole thing out because it was a drain on the budget. Apparently (and I would like corrections if I'm wrong) talks and the agreements were signed by the time he came to power, so whether he wanted to or not, we had to go through with the deal.

    Someone should send the DPM instead.

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  45. charge for votes by Madd+Scientist · · Score: 1

    I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS for certain hot topics in the US. imagine if it was set up like this, every year people vote freely online for which items should be put to public PAY elections. so lets say the top 52 items go to public online pay elections which occur weekly. for that topic of suggestion for new law, all of the info will be provided online with the best debaters on each side given 5 minutes to explain their case. the videos are free. as much information that is possible will be provided... this means ALL information. unfiltered. unchecked. the userbase will have a moderation and voting so the most legitimate details are ranked up so they will be seen. if you care about public voting, then spend 20 minutes a week, and make an informed opinion, but ONLY IF YOU CARE, because voting costs $1. $1, the fiat paper sensation sweeping the nation is the exact figure to charge when asking the question "is this worth ANYTHING to me"... if it is, then it should cost at least $1. that is what should define the value of a dollar. granted a gumball is essentially worthless, but change can still be provided and level of worthlessness is also variable from 0 to 100 cents. so, you charge a buck... make 52 INFORMED decisions about CREATING NEW LAWS at any level of government, or ELIMINATING COMPLETELY OLD LAWS. very important rule: CHANGING of laws is not allowed, and if a law is chosen to be eliminated a flag can be set if a new law which must go in effect before this law is officially eliminated... anyways, even if the laws didn't actually become law, but were green lighted to priority issues that must be simply voted to approve or deny, to pass, at least 61% must approve or deny. if that doesn't happen, then the issue will be revoted on every week until that does happen. if the public choses too they can run the same thing through again assuming it is the top 52 issues for the next year.

  46. Waste of time and money by lcllam · · Score: 2, Informative
    Since when does popularity determine suitability for such a mission? Granted, there have been exceptions but I can't recall any *cough*dubyah*cough*

    This is a ridiculous waste of public money to send what will effectively be a pretty boy into space on a tourist visa. In line with such great achievements as sending a Proton (our locally manufactured car) to the north pole, where rumor has it, it failed to start because um... it was plenty COLD.

    Malaysia definitely needs to spend less on image and more on substance. I can't believe who'd think the population gets a kick out of seeing 'roti canai' (a local snack) floating in space and a bunch of 'hi moms' on the shuttle cam. This smacks of some business guy with a SMS voting engine looking to scam the population out of more cash.

    What Malaysia should probably try to do is to make use of its relatively close proximity to the equator to become a launch hub.

  47. Malaysian Astronaut by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm a Malaysian, although I haven't lived there for while.

    A lot of what the Malaysian Government does, from my point of view, is to trying impress the rest of the world - the "little guy syndrome". The Twin Towers (tallest building in the world for a while), the tallest flag pole (?!), criticism of leaders of the Western World etc. They all just scream, "look at me!"

  48. the point of this exercise being? by sandman006 · · Score: 1
    "Members of the public will be able to choose the country's first astronaut from a shortlist and vote by text message, said Jamaluddin Jarjis."
    from http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4244214.st m
    As it stands in Malaysia, there is already
    1. Too many people wasting money on text messages(re: Idols, etc.)
    2. too many public projects which cost $millions/billions upwards with no real purpose other than for fame.
    3. too many other problems to solve. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia

    Why add another?
  49. I'll vote for Sammy Vellu! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Even if he does come back, few days of his absence on earth will give hope to a lot of Malaysians...

    1. Re:I'll vote for Sammy Vellu! by chawly · · Score: 1

      I'll vote for Sammy too - why not ? I'd just like the answer to one simple question. What's he going to do while he's up there ? In fact what do any of them do ? Seems to me to be a bit like climbing Everest - "because it was there". Once they're up, they hang around for a time and then come back down again.

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  50. IDOLNAUT by Anonym1ty · · Score: 1
    C'mon.. They will be called Idolnauts.

    If you have to play and "American" Idol style game to become one.... why not call them idolnauts.

  51. Voted? by OhioJoe · · Score: 1

    Sounds like a Mayan ritual to pick the villager who 'gets' to be sacrificed. This could be a good socio-psycholgical study to see what went through the minds of those Mayan votees.

    OJ

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