I can do a google search, AND also read the fucking wankpaedia article.
I want REAL sources... Of course Baldrson cant get past his Jew hating anti-semite attitude. Too bad rusty didnt boot his ass. (go read the recent poll on kuro5hin.org to see what I mean)
Oh, thats nothing. My older user "Josh Crawley" had a rather nasty flame on a "Opera upgrade" which I said "Why the fuck pay for a browser in this day and age".. Responses were 2/3 of the whole article responses. http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=52837&cid=5 227877 is the link to my post....
---well i guess amex just sucks balls then, i called visa when some drawing software company sold me a $20 download (not a problem) then called my dorm and told me the software i bought was shit (a problem) tried to get me to 'upgrade' to the $100 version (a problem) then wouldn't cancel the order (a problem) they took care of me even though i'm just a lowly college student with an $800 credit limit
Living in a dorm and BUYING SOFTWARE?!?! What kind of fucking fruitcake are you????
---Well, wherever you end up religiously, I would discourage you from taking the Gospel of Thomas too seriously.
I really havent. I used Gospel of Thomas (and certain parts of it) to show that there's a bunch of stuff that is hidden within the church. If anything, those Dead Sea scrolls are a window into a different view of Christanity and other now-hidden stuff.
---(1) From a "source" standpoint, it was found hundreds of miles and a hundred or so years removed from the life of Christ. Link here. The original translator of the GoT, Bruce Metzger, said that the Jesus in the GoT does not resemble in any way the Jesus of the four Gospels. (Can't find the link to his quote; here is a different Metzger quote on the topic. All of which means that Thomas stands over against Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John; even if we were to take a hard line on the sources for the synoptics, that still leaves us with a very early Q and John as local, recent sources and Thomas as a distant, late source of the life of Christ. Not very impressive.
---(2) The Gospel of Thomas has become popular in our time because of the resurgence of Gnosticism -- Elaine Pagels leads the charge, along with popularizations like The Matrix series. However, if one is going to consider Gnosticism as an alternative belief scheme, it would be worth considering *why* Gnosticism was considered heterodox early on:
As I would expect. If I recall correctly, there was also a Greek work found in the case that is well known to us (we have the original or some copy..). Looking at the Gnostic version and comparing them to the original Greek showed numerous differences. And, how did the Matrix help make Gnosticism popular? Last I knew, it was a semi-good sci-fi show.
* It places an extremely dark view on the physical world and physical bodies of people, considering them sinful.
* It has an extremely harsh system of salvation: only those with sufficient "enlightenment" to escape the flesh can be saved. The rest of the ignoramuses are toast. Oh, and enlightenment is predestined.
* It creates a hugely fanciful system of gods and "demiurges" to explain the creation of the world.
Like I said, Im not going to be a Gnostic. It's like what you say: a dreary life not worth living. But what it did help me with is to open my eyes and see everything. Now, I'm looking at another religion/philosophy that wants me to understand and critically look at. Christanity is built around rote and scripture and just plain not enough doing.
Still, I havent made up my mind completely and am still looking at both(Catholicism and Buddhism) and what they mean to me. Im not sure if one is a right answer.. Hopefully, I'll make the right choice.
---In short, Gnosticism is not exactly a rational response to whatever flaws one sees in Christianity. Being a Christian myself, I would encourage you to branch out theologically and read the Reformers...:-)
Reformers? Err, as in Martin Luther? From what I understand, we Catholics only now have reached Luther's top 100 list (the ones he nailed on the door) during Vatican 2. Still, if that's what you're talking about, It's not just Catholicism... It's Christanity in general. I see too much of people preaching 'The Good Word', yet see them doing evil things to other people, or doing evil jobs. They think Church is a place to get washed of their sin. They then go that Monday and proceed to do the very same things. People like that are a disgrace to any other follower (eg. me).
You then have the type of people who invent systems like Intelligent Design. Those are the anti-science Christian Fanatics. Those are people I absolutely DO NOT want to be associated with. And, I have had a bit of dealing with those types..
And finally, you have the preachers. Im not specifically talking about the people at the head of chruch, preaching. Im talking about the ones that will accoust you doing something
Then what about the anti-implantation drugs? "48 hour" drugs given for rape kits do exactly that, and those pills are being attacked as "abortion pills". Usually these are super-dosages of progestrone and estrogen.
RU486 class drugs are usually after the 72 hour mark when the inseminated egg is already attached to the wall. RU486 causes de-implantation through inhibiting progestrone buildup in the uterine lining.
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Ok, how's about going back through those slashdot links and clicking on those article URL's. They DONT WORK. They take you to an obvious "i threw away the domain" search.
And anyways, who made you think Slashdot's honest? I never had that illusion.
I wish you'd just shut up, or at least join Baldrson at k5. He's a racist too, y'know?
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I am a Catholic, and looking to convert to Buddhism. They seem to lack the nutters and idiots (well, moreso than the great 3).
---I am fairly well educated. I've studied science, history, philosophy (although I am an awful speller...). I don't pretend to have any answers, or know the right answers. Was it God that created everything - no evolution, did God just set the wheels in motion, or maybe God didn't do any of it, although I hope this isn't the case. I don't think I am different than the majority of people in the US.
Really, the majority of the people in the US are idiots. Many polls about science-related findings and other basic fact polls come in and back that up. I think you mean to say is that you're more educated than the average.
---Why is it bad that Christians want ID/Creationism in schools?
Because there is absolutely NO factual basis that it could ever be derived upon. Evolution at least has fossils showing improvements upon older designs. Now, is evolution and its scientific like true? Probably not, but we'll craft better theories when we have better data.
---The Bible, the New Testiment especially, contains stories about events that the others witnessed and we are asked to believe because we were not their to witness them. There is some reasonable amount of historical and archeological evidence to support many parts of these stories.
If you wish to get into a religious debate, fine. Regardless of what you (or we) were asked, we're playing a 2000 year old game of "Telephone". Stories were changed when Pope's saw it needed. Cultures of Christians (we're now talking about Gnostics, Soddomites, and many many other groups at 100 years after Jesus' death) were converted, banished, or just plain executed when they wouldnt bend. The Dead Sea Scrolls are a prime example of what we lost in this game of Telephone.
My first times of questioning my beleifs was when I first found the Gospel of Thomas and then started asking questions about it to our church nun. She just brushed it off as "The Church didnt deem these as holy enough" (or some invalid horseshit). I then found many other "Gospels" like Q, Q2, Q3, Q4 and others. Where are these in the bibles?
I worry this is what is happening/happened to Christians. That's why I still seek Jesus' word yet taught to another people. Jesus said I should recognize his sayings. I have, in another belief set.
---Science, for a vast number of people that don't have the education or facilities to understand the math, biology, etc behind it is asking us to do the same thing.
What you're outlining is nothing based upon religion or ID vs. Evolution. It is the failure of the US Public School system.
---...What we are learning in school... (I take no argument with the rest of what you said)
That is a Public School problem. Things arent being taught when they should be. Money is always being pumped in to the schools, yet teachers still beg for chalk and pens and other supplies (we live in the highest taxed county in Indiana). It simply ammounts to Crap Education.
---There are plenty of measurable facts in science, otherwise we couldn't have things like computers. It is unlikely that these types of facts will ever change. But, the rest of it is made up of conjecture based on the measurable facts filled in with an accepted hypothosis that seems to explain the observations and is able to somewhat accuratly make predictions.
I highly doubt that. Quantum theory (the theories we use to make high density IC chips) and General/Special relativity are fundamentally incompatible. Both work on their own relative size scale, but do not mesh. If string theory can ever be worked out correctly, and good solid evidence be brought, we could fall to it. But there's something weird about string theory...
A book I have on String theory describes an analogy bet
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Please, somebody mod the anti-semetic douchebag down.
(for anti-semetic comments, read his first link... Enough for me.)
System 3: (Bittorrent Box) Processor Intel Pentium M 1000MHz Display Card Intel(R) 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV Memory 512MB Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Free Disk Space 94.6GB Display Card Memory 1MB Display Driver Version 6.14.10.3762 DirectX Version 9.0c Optical Drive CD/DVD Sound Card Realtek AC97 Audio 93% of the systems scanned by the Game Advisor rank higher in performance than your system.
Well, why arent you using something with a smaller profile on that machine other than Windows? If you're gonna use it as a BitTorrent box, might as well plop Linux on it and run Azureus through the web interface. Hmm, now that might be a good idea. 2 Cables running to that box: Power and ethernet. Put on there VLC server and you could stream movies from that machine.
I guess Slashdot is a place everybody just bitches about Windows (and Microsoft) rather than actually put Linux or the BSD's to the test and just plain USE THEM. And people wonder why/. pulled the browser OS text file a few years ago (hint: it was an embarrasement).
---The organizers and owners of the school are living entities.
Thats not what the law dictates. The law allows for seperate entities apart fromhumans. They are called Corporations. Some are for-profit (ok, a great deal of them are), and many of them are non-for-profit. Non-profit is usually denoted as 501(3)C. All of them are considered as seperate from the founders, owners, or whatever have you. They are "themselves".
---here's what my right to assemble means.
---I can start any organization
The first assumption you make is "Start an organization". That means going upon the route of Non-profit org to gain the benefits of that (tax exempt status and other perks). The federal government accepted a charter from YOU to start a new entity. Do you agree or disagree that since you are a "Government Extention" the constitution does not apply? Why or why not?
---and include or exclude any one I want. For any reason. Assuming Im not getting federal money.
But you have a federal charter for a Corporation. Like I said earlier, is that tie strong enough for the newly created entity be bound by the Constitution?
---The "organization" is non-living but the people behind it are very much so alive.
---The constitution applies to Federal laws, and perhaps state and local ones in some cases. It has no applicability to schools, employers, or anything else.
Do they accept FEDERAL MONEY?
If they do, I fail to see why they arent bound by the same Constitution. As if being a seperate entity alleviates constitutional power.
Yah, lets add HYPER and TRANS to evenr web buzzword and make it XANADU-IFIED!!!
Ok, his idea's a bunch of crock that worked when it was SIMPLE. Go read why simple is good, and complex monstrosities are bad.
ANd you wonder why "Red +Gold +Green Xanadu" is still in alpha. They cant even hack Mozilla (or something.. you kow, lynx) to give a real, usable demonstration and real usage.
It's just vaporware (and it's coming from his kool-aid).
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Id use a mounted filesystem and use dd to copy an image to the other networked machine. Just use the following to copy your hard drive...
/remote_computer_mount_point/
dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/your_hard_drive bs=512
And then, you can run netcat from the tun device
nc -i tun0 >
Be aware, your mileage may vary.
Mine does that... errr... Did that once.
thanks.
I can do a google search, AND also read the fucking wankpaedia article.
I want REAL sources... Of course Baldrson cant get past his Jew hating anti-semite attitude. Too bad rusty didnt boot his ass. (go read the recent poll on kuro5hin.org to see what I mean)
Oh, thats nothing. My older user "Josh Crawley" had a rather nasty flame on a "Opera upgrade" which I said "Why the fuck pay for a browser in this day and age".. Responses were 2/3 of the whole article responses. http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=52837&cid=5 227877 is the link to my post....
Have any sources about that other than a wikipaedia article?
Wow, thoroughly smacked down.
;)
Keep up the good work
---well i guess amex just sucks balls then, i called visa when some drawing software company sold me a $20 download (not a problem) then called my dorm and told me the software i bought was shit (a problem) tried to get me to 'upgrade' to the $100 version (a problem) then wouldn't cancel the order (a problem) they took care of me even though i'm just a lowly college student with an $800 credit limit
Living in a dorm and BUYING SOFTWARE?!?! What kind of fucking fruitcake are you????
You really are sad.
Nonono, it's http://www.mypictures.com/coolpic.jpg
(hint: look at linky)
Yeah, and knowing the RPC bugs allowing priveledge escalation is going to help?
Norton pops up due to "virus pinfi", backdoor attaches to Administrator window, and poof goes your system.
XWindows isnt much better, but at least has multi-user built in (and a multitude of stuff to stop naughty windows).
---Well, wherever you end up religiously, I would discourage you from taking the Gospel of Thomas too seriously.
:-)
I really havent. I used Gospel of Thomas (and certain parts of it) to show that there's a bunch of stuff that is hidden within the church. If anything, those Dead Sea scrolls are a window into a different view of Christanity and other now-hidden stuff.
---(1) From a "source" standpoint, it was found hundreds of miles and a hundred or so years removed from the life of Christ. Link here. The original translator of the GoT, Bruce Metzger, said that the Jesus in the GoT does not resemble in any way the Jesus of the four Gospels. (Can't find the link to his quote; here is a different Metzger quote on the topic. All of which means that Thomas stands over against Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John; even if we were to take a hard line on the sources for the synoptics, that still leaves us with a very early Q and John as local, recent sources and Thomas as a distant, late source of the life of Christ. Not very impressive.
---(2) The Gospel of Thomas has become popular in our time because of the resurgence of Gnosticism -- Elaine Pagels leads the charge, along with popularizations like The Matrix series. However, if one is going to consider Gnosticism as an alternative belief scheme, it would be worth considering *why* Gnosticism was considered heterodox early on:
As I would expect. If I recall correctly, there was also a Greek work found in the case that is well known to us (we have the original or some copy..). Looking at the Gnostic version and comparing them to the original Greek showed numerous differences. And, how did the Matrix help make Gnosticism popular? Last I knew, it was a semi-good sci-fi show.
* It places an extremely dark view on the physical world and physical bodies of people, considering them sinful.
* It has an extremely harsh system of salvation: only those with sufficient "enlightenment" to escape the flesh can be saved. The rest of the ignoramuses are toast. Oh, and enlightenment is predestined.
* It creates a hugely fanciful system of gods and "demiurges" to explain the creation of the world.
Like I said, Im not going to be a Gnostic. It's like what you say: a dreary life not worth living. But what it did help me with is to open my eyes and see everything. Now, I'm looking at another religion/philosophy that wants me to understand and critically look at. Christanity is built around rote and scripture and just plain not enough doing.
Still, I havent made up my mind completely and am still looking at both(Catholicism and Buddhism) and what they mean to me. Im not sure if one is a right answer.. Hopefully, I'll make the right choice.
---In short, Gnosticism is not exactly a rational response to whatever flaws one sees in Christianity. Being a Christian myself, I would encourage you to branch out theologically and read the Reformers...
Reformers? Err, as in Martin Luther? From what I understand, we Catholics only now have reached Luther's top 100 list (the ones he nailed on the door) during Vatican 2. Still, if that's what you're talking about, It's not just Catholicism... It's Christanity in general. I see too much of people preaching 'The Good Word', yet see them doing evil things to other people, or doing evil jobs. They think Church is a place to get washed of their sin. They then go that Monday and proceed to do the very same things. People like that are a disgrace to any other follower (eg. me).
You then have the type of people who invent systems like Intelligent Design. Those are the anti-science Christian Fanatics. Those are people I absolutely DO NOT want to be associated with. And, I have had a bit of dealing with those types..
And finally, you have the preachers. Im not specifically talking about the people at the head of chruch, preaching. Im talking about the ones that will accoust you doing something
Mother forker!
Then what about the anti-implantation drugs? "48 hour" drugs given for rape kits do exactly that, and those pills are being attacked as "abortion pills". Usually these are super-dosages of progestrone and estrogen.
RU486 class drugs are usually after the 72 hour mark when the inseminated egg is already attached to the wall. RU486 causes de-implantation through inhibiting progestrone buildup in the uterine lining.
Tough answer. What if the egg doesnt implant to begin with (BUT fertilization does occur). Is doing nothing considered murder?
Weed weed? Or crack crack?
Ok, how's about going back through those slashdot links and clicking on those article URL's. They DONT WORK. They take you to an obvious "i threw away the domain" search.
And anyways, who made you think Slashdot's honest? I never had that illusion.
I wish you'd just shut up, or at least join Baldrson at k5. He's a racist too, y'know?
You donkey raping shit eater.
Fuckety fucketty fuck. Shittety shittety shit.
Then they simply die, as does the rest of their genetic bloodline.
The smart ones will live. Whats soo bad about that?
---First off I am a Christian.
I am a Catholic, and looking to convert to Buddhism. They seem to lack the nutters and idiots (well, moreso than the great 3).
---I am fairly well educated. I've studied science, history, philosophy (although I am an awful speller...). I don't pretend to have any answers, or know the right answers. Was it God that created everything - no evolution, did God just set the wheels in motion, or maybe God didn't do any of it, although I hope this isn't the case. I don't think I am different than the majority of people in the US.
Really, the majority of the people in the US are idiots. Many polls about science-related findings and other basic fact polls come in and back that up. I think you mean to say is that you're more educated than the average.
---Why is it bad that Christians want ID/Creationism in schools?
Because there is absolutely NO factual basis that it could ever be derived upon. Evolution at least has fossils showing improvements upon older designs. Now, is evolution and its scientific like true? Probably not, but we'll craft better theories when we have better data.
---The Bible, the New Testiment especially, contains stories about events that the others witnessed and we are asked to believe because we were not their to witness them. There is some reasonable amount of historical and archeological evidence to support many parts of these stories.
If you wish to get into a religious debate, fine. Regardless of what you (or we) were asked, we're playing a 2000 year old game of "Telephone". Stories were changed when Pope's saw it needed. Cultures of Christians (we're now talking about Gnostics, Soddomites, and many many other groups at 100 years after Jesus' death) were converted, banished, or just plain executed when they wouldnt bend. The Dead Sea Scrolls are a prime example of what we lost in this game of Telephone.
My first times of questioning my beleifs was when I first found the Gospel of Thomas and then started asking questions about it to our church nun. She just brushed it off as "The Church didnt deem these as holy enough" (or some invalid horseshit). I then found many other "Gospels" like Q, Q2, Q3, Q4 and others. Where are these in the bibles?
I worry this is what is happening/happened to Christians. That's why I still seek Jesus' word yet taught to another people. Jesus said I should recognize his sayings. I have, in another belief set.
---Science, for a vast number of people that don't have the education or facilities to understand the math, biology, etc behind it is asking us to do the same thing.
What you're outlining is nothing based upon religion or ID vs. Evolution. It is the failure of the US Public School system.
---...What we are learning in school... (I take no argument with the rest of what you said)
That is a Public School problem. Things arent being taught when they should be. Money is always being pumped in to the schools, yet teachers still beg for chalk and pens and other supplies (we live in the highest taxed county in Indiana). It simply ammounts to Crap Education.
---There are plenty of measurable facts in science, otherwise we couldn't have things like computers. It is unlikely that these types of facts will ever change. But, the rest of it is made up of conjecture based on the measurable facts filled in with an accepted hypothosis that seems to explain the observations and is able to somewhat accuratly make predictions.
I highly doubt that. Quantum theory (the theories we use to make high density IC chips) and General/Special relativity are fundamentally incompatible. Both work on their own relative size scale, but do not mesh. If string theory can ever be worked out correctly, and good solid evidence be brought, we could fall to it. But there's something weird about string theory...
A book I have on String theory describes an analogy bet
Please, somebody mod the anti-semetic douchebag down.
(for anti-semetic comments, read his first link... Enough for me.)
As a comment, read below....
/. pulled the browser OS text file a few years ago (hint: it was an embarrasement).
System 3: (Bittorrent Box)
Processor Intel Pentium M 1000MHz
Display Card Intel(R) 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV
Memory 512MB
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP
Free Disk Space 94.6GB
Display Card Memory 1MB
Display Driver Version 6.14.10.3762
DirectX Version 9.0c
Optical Drive CD/DVD
Sound Card Realtek AC97 Audio
93% of the systems scanned by the Game Advisor rank higher in performance than your system.
Well, why arent you using something with a smaller profile on that machine other than Windows? If you're gonna use it as a BitTorrent box, might as well plop Linux on it and run Azureus through the web interface. Hmm, now that might be a good idea. 2 Cables running to that box: Power and ethernet. Put on there VLC server and you could stream movies from that machine.
I guess Slashdot is a place everybody just bitches about Windows (and Microsoft) rather than actually put Linux or the BSD's to the test and just plain USE THEM. And people wonder why
---The organizers and owners of the school are living entities.
Thats not what the law dictates. The law allows for seperate entities apart fromhumans. They are called Corporations. Some are for-profit (ok, a great deal of them are), and many of them are non-for-profit. Non-profit is usually denoted as 501(3)C. All of them are considered as seperate from the founders, owners, or whatever have you. They are "themselves".
---here's what my right to assemble means.
---I can start any organization
The first assumption you make is "Start an organization". That means going upon the route of Non-profit org to gain the benefits of that (tax exempt status and other perks). The federal government accepted a charter from YOU to start a new entity. Do you agree or disagree that since you are a "Government Extention" the constitution does not apply? Why or why not?
---and include or exclude any one I want. For any reason. Assuming Im not getting federal money.
But you have a federal charter for a Corporation. Like I said earlier, is that tie strong enough for the newly created entity be bound by the Constitution?
---The "organization" is non-living but the people behind it are very much so alive.
Wrong.
---The constitution applies to Federal laws, and perhaps state and local ones in some cases. It has no applicability to schools, employers, or anything else.
Do they accept FEDERAL MONEY?
If they do, I fail to see why they arent bound by the same Constitution. As if being a seperate entity alleviates constitutional power.
And what say you that non-living entities should have ANY rights?
Yah, lets add HYPER and TRANS to evenr web buzzword and make it XANADU-IFIED!!!
Ok, his idea's a bunch of crock that worked when it was SIMPLE. Go read why simple is good, and complex monstrosities are bad.
ANd you wonder why "Red +Gold +Green Xanadu" is still in alpha. They cant even hack Mozilla (or something.. you kow, lynx) to give a real, usable demonstration and real usage.
It's just vaporware (and it's coming from his kool-aid).