I had to for old time sakes. This thing is amazing, I can see buying a crate load of these.
How long till headless uses for these pop up. I can already think of using them as servers, data loggers, and robot controls. I mean, get a 1970s chevy blazer, some webcams, actuators, and a few of these mini macs and you can win the DARPA grand challenge. Okay you have to write some pretty nifty software first, but this would give you the right platform.
And that somewhere I believe is Monticello. I figured out what that marble device is on Thomas Jeffersons deck at monticello. On the deck wing facing the University of Virginia there is a marble sphere with an arrow through it on a pedastool. It looks like a certainly oriented globe. I asked the tour guide and she said it was "some gadget goo-gaww that jeferson had" - she really had no clue. I have a picture and I'll have to look at it.
Then buy legos from India or China(It's what big corps would cal outsourcing). Who cares about Lego(tm) let them be more competitive. So what if they can't profit from pennies on the dollar, then they shouldn't be making Legos.
The military is always thinking ahead(unlike corporate America who can't see past their own greed) so they want to develop this technology to apply it somewhere that mules can't be trained to do. Namely you can't train a mule to seek and kill the enemy under fire. Though the Russians trained dogs to dive under tanks and have charges detonate - this was because they conditioned the dogs by feeding them under tractors. We are just trying to make an active predator that has more of an appetite than hunger.
Solar power is not cheap when compared to grid power... but if you use it wisley solar can be very cheap. Just don't make the expensive mistake most people do and buy an expensively engineered system with battery banks, multitudes of panels and an inneficient inverter system. Definetly don't use solar if you end product is ~110 AC. Yeah I think running kitchen appliances and electric heaters with solar is ridiculous.
Solar and 12-42 volts DC are a frugal solution for rural uses.
And to answer the question which is more efficient? Laptops have been designed with efficiency in mind, whereas desktop components usually take power supply for granted. For low power form factor check out mini-itx.com of course they trade computing power for power consumption but that is reasonble.
You mentioned a 8-12 hour workday but you didn't say what kind of work you would be doing. How graphics/computing intensive are you?
There are car adaptors for laptops and even slashdot has a few stories about car based pc mods (some use inverters). What do they all have in common? They run on 12 volts.
I've been to a rural place where 12v was used in the home as a light duty power solution. The system can be simple: a single "home power" solar panel and a few car batteries. Using two car batteries you can have power 24/7 for a laptop, LED lights and a radio/cd player. The only time you would need to manage power is in the winter months. Another good thing about 12v is that you can do your own wiring - just don't let code inspectors know about it. Oh and be carefull with the car batteries they have lead and acid in them and can give off combustable gases during charging. And shorting them can cause a fire.
Is this the story with the most off topic comments? Who cares about anti-matter here, this isn't anti matter it's just called an anti bubble. The anti matter jokes are just annoying. I liked the beer comments more than anti matter comments, but they aere still far too many.
as of this comment I've only seen three other comment sactually on topic.
Now the part that gets me on topic: How does this liquid supported by gas in a liquid work? What forces are strong enough to keep the relatively dense liquid from comprerssing or displacing the gas below it and making contact with the other liquid? I read some about surface tension and hydro-repulive forces, but even still would the gas on the bottom be a apparently thinner than on the top?
I'm not able to understand this can someone help me?
That just gave me an idea. Insted of a simulator how about remote controled full size race cars.
Now that would be cool. I've been much of a racing fan, but I just might watch remotely piloted race cars. No safety restrictions, just raw unchecked competition.
Imagine screaming machines racing around the track at hundreds of miles per hour with the drivers on the sidelines. If there is a wreck then would be parts flying everywhere through the air and no one would get hurt.
Then someday a touring test of sorts would be possible with autonomous racing vehicles competing with human pilots.
Yeah, not only do they break the rule of appearing stock, but they almost always give the project a sparkly paint job with flames - I think flames are used too much.
And since jessie builds motorcycles why don't they use motorcycles as the base for a few projects. The only time I saw a motorcycle in monster garage was during the Terminator 3 truck episode and then the bike(triumph) was only a prop.
Yeah the "ramp-RV" episode was where I lost a lot of respect for the show. One of the advertisers logos got paited over because one of the build team was a competitior. And the producers went ape-sh!t over that. Advertising is a double edged sword. They enable a lot of things,b tu they also restrict a lot of what you can do if you want to keep their advertising dollar. It's much like radio and TV censoring having a lot to do with who the advertisers are.
Yeah it's like so many cool start up ideas that get corrupted and totally taken over by over-commercialzation. It's only the brief moments before the marketers take over-board that it is a joy.
I've noticed the same thing. And with the new rules and the new garage, why are they going way over budget? and what happened to the one "freebie" rule?
Lately my attention has turned more towards "American Chopper" with drama and all.
Gasoline, diesel, propane or the overlooked butane. If you want power you need to think about energy density. What are the most practical energy dense storage mediums?
Forget fuel cell, think engine or turbine. I don't mean nano or thing exotic like that, just tiny. Tiny engines, whats so difficult about that? really what is?
Of course you can't just scale down an inline four from a toyota, you would need to take into account the physics of micro fluid dynanics and such. And think how cheaply a little engine could be made. Some casting, stamping and drilling. And a tiny engine wouldn't need to be overhauled, think disposable.
I imagine a butane lighter with a reciptocating piston engine and ac generator, through in a transformer, full wave bridge rectifiers and voltage regulators and you could have a universal portable power supply. And how much would it cost? lighter + a few ounces of machined metal + magnets and coils + a chip and some caps + liscensing fee
It would be so small that the heat and exhaust fumes and noise would be negligable.
To have more time we need governemtn to keep business off of our backs... here is how:
idea: Dealing with unemployment distribution of products, while keeping incentive to work. A controlled number of hours a worker can work per week, set limits either with the individual or the employers using enforced laws. Having a tapered time limit structure based on age so that younger people can start to work some but no too much. Then increasing hours into middle age and then tapering off again into old age. Also that the hours worked would accumulate production shares that would pay divididends. So that to retire all a person would need to do would be to earn shares. This keeps people entering the labor force and working to produce goods while providing an outlet for overproduction. Also the value of currency should be tied to the value of all products produced in reagards to purchasing power. I suggest an overunity of currency value so that not all currency has to be in circulation to be able to purchase all products produced. This accounts for savings occuring. The econmy should be formed of mostly private enterprise where certain types of inovation will occur. Productions needing larger investments with less certain returns should be government domain where other type of innovations occur. Innovation stagnant areas such as large private enterprises, corporations and monopolies shall be regulated by government closely to ensure a fair price of goods and services produced; also the strict enforcment of labour laws and working hour limits.
All in all wealth is created from the raw materials of nature, innovation and labour. The refinment of products and processes comes from competition in the market place. Essentially private and public works can do whatever they want without the regulation of government. The only fair labour practices will have be earned through dilligence and active particpation of workers in government.
The work hour limits should be eased in gradually and first in places of low pay. And in some cases the limits must be emplaced very slowly for atrained workforce to be able to fill the vaccum. Doctors for instance should not be too restircted as their work is vital. As in all things be practical and realistic.
Another thing is that setting a limit on hours worked by an idividual is intened to increase general employment. That an employer should not increase the pace of work to offset hour limits, but should hire more workers. The pace of work shouldn't be increased by the business or fatigue of the worker. The pace of work should be seperately measured from productivity. Improvements and innovations should only be sought after to increase productivity while decreasing the pace of work. Productivity should only be increased by automation and improved processes.
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I agree that this is an increasing problem. I'm just amazed at what a bunch of "suck it up" stoics americans are - kinda reminds me of the russians before they started to really fail badly. Hopefully a majority of people will decide this is worth sticking their necks out for and make the changes. Unions might be one way, but ulitmatelty if you want a fair deal the government needs some amending.
idea: Dealing with unemployment distribution of products, while keeping incentive to work. A controlled number of hours a worker can work per week, set limits either with the individual or the employers using enforced laws. Having a tapered time limit structure based on age so that younger people can start to work some but no too much. Then increasing hours into middle age and then tapering off again into old age. Also that the hours worked would accumulate production shares that would pay divididends. So that to retire all a person would need to do would be to earn shares. This keeps people entering the labor force and working to produce goods while providing an outlet for overproduction. Also the value of currency should be tied to the value of all products produced in reagards to purchasing power. I suggest an overunity of currency value so that not all currency has to be in circulation to be able to purchase all products produced. This accounts for savings occuring. The econmy should be formed of mostly private enterprise where certain types of inovation will occur. Productions needing larger investments with less certain returns should be government domain where other type of innovations occur. Innovation stagnant areas such as large private enterprises, corporations and monopolies shall be regulated by government closely to ensure a fair price of goods and services produced; also the strict enforcment of labour laws and working hour limits.
All in all wealth is created from the raw materials of nature, innovation and labour. The refinment of products and processes comes from competition in the market place. Essentially private and public works can do whatever they want without the regulation of government. The only fair labour practices will have be earned through dilligence and active particpation of workers in government.
The work hour limits should be eased in gradually and first in places of low pay. And in some cases the limits must be emplaced very slowly for atrained workforce to be able to fill the vaccum. Doctors for instance should not be too restircted as their work is vital. As in all things be practical and realistic.
Another thing is that setting a limit on hours worked by an idividual is intened to increase general employment. That an employer should not increase the pace of work to offset hour limits, but should hire more workers. The pace of work should be increased by the business or fatigue of the worker. The pace of work should be seperately measured from productivity. Improvements an innovations ahould only be sought after to increase productivity while decreasing the pace of work. Productivity should only be increased by automation and improved processes.
Seattle has a good abandoned data center. Diesel generators, huge battery banks, lots of backbone, earthquake braced cabinets, biometric scanners, top of the line and mostly unused. The company I used to work for layed us all off and the whole thing is just sitting there. So you can hire a cheap crew - I know a few - and we will have you up and running in no time. Just don't expect to fill up the unused space with our old sales team and don't run the company like fools.
1. Be a telephone company 2. Profit 3. Telemarketers make mass calls 4. People get upset and make mass calls back at telemarketers 5. Telephone company $$$Profits!!! even more...
Given that all these predictions come true... and muting all doubts... then what, just what should we do? Some say: Reduce the human population? Find better things for the idle to do? Fume and revolt and break machines until we all have jobs again? More welfare?
Is there a free market solution? The real information age may be arriving, no more mundane jobs, it's what copyrights you own. An entertainment economy? Maybe this turmoil over intellectual proprty is comming right on time. Maybe the news rules on intellectual property will provide and income for all - after lots kicking and screaming.
Even if there is such a substantial rise of the machines, that they can efficiently replace human labor, and most people are out of work, then who is going to pay for the products of this machine economy? The unemployed? The rich investors? (they aren't going to make profits by buying from themsleves) Besides I think powerfull people like bossing others around too much to let this happen. How self important will the powerfull feel if all they have sway over are machines? (Did anyone read/see Bladerunner?)
So how, with Americans loosing jobs will there be economic growth in America? I see a standard of living going down where the jobs are being lost, and it will fall faster here than it will grow in India.
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a beowulf cluster of these!!!
I had to for old time sakes.
This thing is amazing, I can see buying a crate load of these.
How long till headless uses for these pop up. I can already think of using them as servers, data loggers, and robot controls. I mean, get a 1970s chevy blazer, some webcams, actuators, and a few of these mini macs and you can win the DARPA grand challenge. Okay you have to write some pretty nifty software first, but this would give you the right platform.
And that somewhere I believe is Monticello.
I figured out what that marble device is on Thomas Jeffersons deck at monticello. On the deck wing facing the University of Virginia there is a marble sphere with an arrow through it on a pedastool. It looks like a certainly oriented globe. I asked the tour guide and she said it was "some gadget goo-gaww that jeferson had" - she really had no clue. I have a picture and I'll have to look at it.
Then buy legos from India or China(It's what big corps would cal outsourcing). Who cares about Lego(tm) let them be more competitive. So what if they can't profit from pennies on the dollar, then they shouldn't be making Legos.
The military is always thinking ahead(unlike corporate America who can't see past their own greed) so they want to develop this technology to apply it somewhere that mules can't be trained to do. Namely you can't train a mule to seek and kill the enemy under fire. Though the Russians trained dogs to dive under tanks and have charges detonate - this was because they conditioned the dogs by feeding them under tractors. We are just trying to make an active predator that has more of an appetite than hunger.
Truer words were never spoken.
I agree, you know your thermodynamics. Conversion costs.
Solar power is not cheap when compared to grid power... but if you use it wisley solar can be very cheap. Just don't make the expensive mistake most people do and buy an expensively engineered system with battery banks, multitudes of panels and an inneficient inverter system. Definetly don't use solar if you end product is ~110 AC. Yeah I think running kitchen appliances and electric heaters with solar is ridiculous.
Solar and 12-42 volts DC are a frugal solution for rural uses.
P.S. Contact me if you want plans.
And to answer the question which is more efficient? Laptops have been designed with efficiency in mind, whereas desktop components usually take power supply for granted. For low power form factor check out mini-itx.com of course they trade computing power for power consumption but that is reasonble.
You mentioned a 8-12 hour workday but you didn't say what kind of work you would be doing. How graphics/computing intensive are you?
There are car adaptors for laptops and even slashdot has a few stories about car based pc mods (some use inverters). What do they all have in common? They run on 12 volts.
I've been to a rural place where 12v was used in the home as a light duty power solution. The system can be simple: a single "home power" solar panel and a few car batteries. Using two car batteries you can have power 24/7 for a laptop, LED lights and a radio/cd player. The only time you would need to manage power is in the winter months. Another good thing about 12v is that you can do your own wiring - just don't let code inspectors know about it. Oh and be carefull with the car batteries they have lead and acid in them and can give off combustable gases during charging. And shorting them can cause a fire.
Is this the story with the most off topic comments?
Who cares about anti-matter here, this isn't anti matter it's just called an anti bubble. The anti matter jokes are just annoying. I liked the beer comments more than anti matter comments, but they aere still far too many.
as of this comment I've only seen three other comment sactually on topic.
Now the part that gets me on topic:
How does this liquid supported by gas in a liquid work? What forces are strong enough to keep the relatively dense liquid from comprerssing or displacing the gas below it and making contact with the other liquid?
I read some about surface tension and hydro-repulive forces, but even still would the gas on the bottom be a apparently thinner than on the top?
I'm not able to understand this can someone help me?
That just gave me an idea. Insted of a simulator how about remote controled full size race cars.
Now that would be cool. I've been much of a racing fan, but I just might watch remotely piloted race cars. No safety restrictions, just raw unchecked competition.
Imagine screaming machines racing around the track at hundreds of miles per hour with the drivers on the sidelines. If there is a wreck then would be parts flying everywhere through the air and no one would get hurt.
Then someday a touring test of sorts would be possible with autonomous racing vehicles competing with human pilots.
Yeah, not only do they break the rule of appearing stock, but they almost always give the project a sparkly paint job with flames - I think flames are used too much.
And since jessie builds motorcycles why don't they use motorcycles as the base for a few projects. The only time I saw a motorcycle in monster garage was during the Terminator 3 truck episode and then the bike(triumph) was only a prop.
Yeah the "ramp-RV" episode was where I lost a lot of respect for the show. One of the advertisers logos got paited over because one of the build team was a competitior. And the producers went ape-sh!t over that. Advertising is a double edged sword. They enable a lot of things,b tu they also restrict a lot of what you can do if you want to keep their advertising dollar. It's much like radio and TV censoring having a lot to do with who the advertisers are.
Yeah it's like so many cool start up ideas that get corrupted and totally taken over by over-commercialzation. It's only the brief moments before the marketers take over-board that it is a joy.
TV anyone?
Internet?
I've noticed the same thing. And with the new rules and the new garage, why are they going way over budget? and what happened to the one "freebie" rule?
Lately my attention has turned more towards "American Chopper" with drama and all.
Gasoline, diesel, propane or the overlooked butane. If you want power you need to think about energy density. What are the most practical energy dense storage mediums?
Forget fuel cell, think engine or turbine. I don't mean nano or thing exotic like that, just tiny. Tiny engines, whats so difficult about that? really what is?
Of course you can't just scale down an inline four from a toyota, you would need to take into account the physics of micro fluid dynanics and such. And think how cheaply a little engine could be made. Some casting, stamping and drilling. And a tiny engine wouldn't need to be overhauled, think disposable.
I imagine a butane lighter with a reciptocating piston engine and ac generator, through in a transformer, full wave bridge rectifiers and voltage regulators and you could have a universal portable power supply.
And how much would it cost? lighter + a few ounces of machined metal + magnets and coils + a chip and some caps + liscensing fee
It would be so small that the heat and exhaust fumes and noise would be negligable.
To have more time we need governemtn to keep business off of our backs... here is how:
idea: Dealing with unemployment distribution of products, while keeping incentive to work. A controlled number of hours a worker can work per week, set limits either with the individual or the employers using enforced laws. Having a tapered time limit structure based on age so that younger people can start to work some but no too much. Then increasing hours into middle age and then tapering off again into old age. Also that the hours worked would accumulate production shares that would pay divididends. So that to retire all a person would need to do would be to earn shares. This keeps people entering the labor force and working to produce goods while providing an outlet for overproduction. Also the value of currency should be tied to the value of all products produced in reagards to purchasing power. I suggest an overunity of currency value so that not all currency has to be in circulation to be able to purchase all products produced. This accounts for savings occuring. The econmy should be formed of mostly private enterprise where certain types of inovation will occur. Productions needing larger investments with less certain returns should be government domain where other type of innovations occur. Innovation stagnant areas such as large private enterprises, corporations and monopolies shall be regulated by government closely to ensure a fair price of goods and services produced; also the strict enforcment of labour laws and working hour limits.
All in all wealth is created from the raw materials of nature, innovation and labour. The refinment of products and processes comes from competition in the market place. Essentially private and public works can do whatever they want without the regulation of government. The only fair labour practices will have be earned through dilligence and active particpation of workers in government.
The work hour limits should be eased in gradually and first in places of low pay. And in some cases the limits must be emplaced very slowly for atrained workforce to be able to fill the vaccum. Doctors for instance should not be too restircted as their work is vital. As in all things be practical and realistic.
Another thing is that setting a limit on hours worked by an idividual is intened to increase general employment. That an employer should not increase the pace of work to offset hour limits, but should hire more workers. The pace of work shouldn't be increased by the business or fatigue of the worker. The pace of work should be seperately measured from productivity. Improvements and innovations should only be sought after to increase productivity while decreasing the pace of work. Productivity should only be increased by automation and improved processes.
I agree that this is an increasing problem. I'm just amazed at what a bunch of "suck it up" stoics americans are - kinda reminds me of the russians before they started to really fail badly.
Hopefully a majority of people will decide this is worth sticking their necks out for and make the changes. Unions might be one way, but ulitmatelty if you want a fair deal the government needs some amending.
idea: Dealing with unemployment distribution of products, while keeping incentive to work. A controlled number of hours a worker can work per week, set limits either with the individual or the employers using enforced laws. Having a tapered time limit structure based on age so that younger people can start to work some but no too much. Then increasing hours into middle age and then tapering off again into old age. Also that the hours worked would accumulate production shares that would pay divididends. So that to retire all a person would need to do would be to earn shares. This keeps people entering the labor force and working to produce goods while providing an outlet for overproduction. Also the value of currency should be tied to the value of all products produced in reagards to purchasing power. I suggest an overunity of currency value so that not all currency has to be in circulation to be able to purchase all products produced. This accounts for savings occuring. The econmy should be formed of mostly private enterprise where certain types of inovation will occur. Productions needing larger investments with less certain returns should be government domain where other type of innovations occur. Innovation stagnant areas such as large private enterprises, corporations and monopolies shall be regulated by government closely to ensure a fair price of goods and services produced; also the strict enforcment of labour laws and working hour limits.
All in all wealth is created from the raw materials of nature, innovation and labour. The refinment of products and processes comes from competition in the market place. Essentially private and public works can do whatever they want without the regulation of government. The only fair labour practices will have be earned through dilligence and active particpation of workers in government.
The work hour limits should be eased in gradually and first in places of low pay. And in some cases the limits must be emplaced very slowly for atrained workforce to be able to fill the vaccum. Doctors for instance should not be too restircted as their work is vital. As in all things be practical and realistic.
Another thing is that setting a limit on hours worked by an idividual is intened to increase general employment. That an employer should not increase the pace of work to offset hour limits, but should hire more workers. The pace of work should be increased by the business or fatigue of the worker. The pace of work should be seperately measured from productivity. Improvements an innovations ahould only be sought after to increase productivity while decreasing the pace of work. Productivity should only be increased by automation and improved processes.
Seattle has a good abandoned data center. Diesel generators, huge battery banks, lots of backbone, earthquake braced cabinets, biometric scanners, top of the line and mostly unused. The company I used to work for layed us all off and the whole thing is just sitting there. So you can hire a cheap crew - I know a few - and we will have you up and running in no time. Just don't expect to fill up the unused space with our old sales team and don't run the company like fools.
1. Be a telephone company
2. Profit
3. Telemarketers make mass calls
4. People get upset and make mass calls back at telemarketers
5. Telephone company $$$Profits!!! even more...
Now if I could only get to step 1
Given that all these predictions come true... and muting all doubts... then what, just what should we do?
Some say:
Reduce the human population?
Find better things for the idle to do?
Fume and revolt and break machines until we all have jobs again?
More welfare?
Is there a free market solution?
The real information age may be arriving, no more mundane jobs, it's what copyrights you own. An entertainment economy?
Maybe this turmoil over intellectual proprty is comming right on time. Maybe the news rules on intellectual property will provide and income for all - after lots kicking and screaming.
Even if there is such a substantial rise of the machines, that they can efficiently replace human labor, and most people are out of work, then who is going to pay for the products of this machine economy?
The unemployed?
The rich investors? (they aren't going to make profits by buying from themsleves)
Besides I think powerfull people like bossing others around too much to let this happen. How self important will the powerfull feel if all they have sway over are machines? (Did anyone read/see Bladerunner?)
Thank you for noticing.
I agree, looks like we will hoarding lumps of coal someday.
So how, with Americans loosing jobs will there be economic growth in America?
I see a standard of living going down where the jobs are being lost, and it will fall faster here than it will grow in India.