A conflict with the video card? That seems like it would be relatively easy to fix, since the Intel chipset is one of the few with a decent Free driver. Anyway, I did a little search and found this, which makes it seem like the problem could be already fixed.
If that's true, it would certainly go a long way towards explaining why so many computers have it disabled (the article was about HP, I mentioned Lenovo, and somebody else in this thread claimed Sony was disabling it too).
After having taken a closer look at the page I linked (because it's been changed since I read it last), I've discovered that my particular model (X60t) at least has a new BIOS out that fixes the problem. : )
This leads me to believe that, at least for Lenovo, it's just that they were presumably in a hurry to get the model released, not that it was intentional crippleware.
I hope you're right, but pardon me for continuing to be pessimistic. Some guy once said "the price of freedom is eternal vigilance," and I really took that to heart (even if I can't remember who said it at the moment).
In other words, some kook has to keep worrying about this kind of thing, and it might as well be me.
...on some of their newer Thinkpads. You'd think that when you're spending $2000 on a "business-class" laptop, you'd get it without any artificial limitations...
Explaining the difference between a client and a server is easy: the client is the thing that "asks" for stuff, and the server is the thing that fulfills the requests. It's not as if we geeks picked these words out of thin air, you know -- they were picked for their conceptual similarity to stuff in the real world. In other words, a computer "server" and a restaurant "server" (i.e., a waiter) do the same thing: ask for a glass of water, the server gets you a glass of water; ask for a web page, the server sends you a web page. How much more bleedingly obvious could it be?
Fuck you for your condescending attitude! I wasn't talking only about music; that's just the tip of the iceberg.
The real issue here is that as computers become more deeply infested with DRM, it'll be used to stifle innovation (Did you come up with some revolutionary new way of distributing media? Too bad for you!), destroy Free Software (Oh, sorry -- your "Trusted" hardware will let you recompile your GPL'd software all you want, but it'll refuse to run it because it's not approved by Microsoft), and destroy Free Speech and the transparency of government (You found evidence of the government doing something horrible? Too bad, the public will never find out because the DRM prevents you from copying the proof. Besides, even if you did write an article about it, the Powers That Be would just use their root key to retroactively erase it.).
That's the kind of stuff that's more important than a war in a foreign country! I say that if that country has problems, let it sort them out itself. We've got plenty of our own problems right here.
Call me crazy, but can't this last issue be fixed by locking your door?
Of course! But Windows only comes with a screen door, and very few people realize they need a better door, let alone know how to install one. And even if they did manage to get a better door installed, they wouldn't be able to figure out how to operate the lock!
Yeah, no kidding: we're all so caught up in "left vs. right" that we've ignored "up vs. down" (as on this). Personally, I think we'd be better off with either the Libertarians or the Greens in power (I honestly don't care which). Either would be an improvement over the authoritarian Republicrats we've got now.
So who appointed you the policy maker for Apple's forums? Just curious.
As an Apple customer, I did!
Look, Apple can do what it wants. But if it wants business from people like me, it'll do what I want. And what I want is for it not to ignore its customers' problems, especially when they're caused by flaws in the product! Instead, I want it at least to acknowledge those flaws, even if there isn't anything that can be done about it. If nothing else, it'd be nice to know I'm not hallucinating if I experience them.
No, they should just not remove it! If you're looking at Slashdot or any of the various other forums around the Internet, you can usually go back all the way to the beginning and read any post that was ever made. There's no reason for Apple's forums to be any different.
Yo bitch. The teasting is _State Mandated_ it's not going anywhere whether you or I like it
Yo, asshole, if that's the case then turning all teachers into sex offenders is State Mandated too!
The teacher doens't control their classroom btw, they couldn't insist on getting rid of the PC's in their rooms. Outside PC's aren't allowed and they have zero control over internal machines (they aren't even power users to the machines they use).
Well that just makes the problem worse! Look, do you realize the situation every teacher is now in? It's intractable! Hell, more than that, it's impossible!
Look, I don't actually have a problem with computers in the classroom; I'm just pointing out the only possible conclusion if this ruling is allowed to stand. This kind of punishment is so outrageous that it will either effectively prohibit computers in the classroom, or destroy the entirety of the teaching profession! Seriously, what are we (as a country) going to do 5 years from now when fully half the teachers are locked in federal prison because their students saw a boob or two?
Unfortunately many people are unwilling or unable to do that.
That's exactly the same thing as saying that they're unwilling or unable to do their job. If that's the case, they are incompetent and should be fired.
Can't do without them. Part of the state mandated testing is via the internet on a PC. Kids must be able to use the PC's before these tests come around and the tests needing online access through a PC are first seen in third grade.
Well, either the kids all fail or they get rid of the Internet testing then!
Sucks to be a teacher (I guess), but the machines will stay.
Hey asshole, do you realize what apparently happened here? Getting a reprimand is something to say "sucks to be a teacher" about. Going to prison and registering as a sex offender goes way, way beyond that!
What this ruling means is that classrooms can have teachers or computers, but not both. The liability to the teachers is too high. If I were a teacher, as soon as I found out about this I would have exactly two choices: quit, or throw away all the computers in my classroom. And I would have to do so immediately, because otherwise my life would be destroyed just because of Windows' shitty programming! After all, it's only a matter of time before this happens to every teacher, because it's simply not possible for anyone except a competent, non-overworked system administrator to prevent a Windows box from getting porn pop-ups sooner or later.
Well, then the children are just going to have to do without computers entirely, won't they? I mean, after this ruling no sane teacher will accept having a Windows-based computer within 50 feet of the classroom -- it's just too risky!
I have an urge to go sue the local school system, demanding that they remove Windows from every computer because it's mere existence is criminally negligent!
I think the required work to build the entire new cities can hardly be called hell.
Okay, let me be more specific: the hellish part would be the time between being forced from the original cities and finishing the new ones. In other words, the time spent living in refugee camps with (most likely) insufficient water and sanitation, and suffering from famine and disease.
These day we can build pretty quick, although the architecture will suck.
We can build pretty quick because we have infrastructure already in place.
Also, not like this will happen all at once.
That's true, but I have a feeling it could happen faster than we're prepared to deal with it.
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A conflict with the video card? That seems like it would be relatively easy to fix, since the Intel chipset is one of the few with a decent Free driver. Anyway, I did a little search and found this, which makes it seem like the problem could be already fixed.
If that's true, it would certainly go a long way towards explaining why so many computers have it disabled (the article was about HP, I mentioned Lenovo, and somebody else in this thread claimed Sony was disabling it too).
According to the page, it's the Z and X series that are affected, not the T series.
You're thinking of HAL-9000, not ISO. ISO-9000 is some kind of standardized business process or something.
After having taken a closer look at the page I linked (because it's been changed since I read it last), I've discovered that my particular model (X60t) at least has a new BIOS out that fixes the problem. : )
This leads me to believe that, at least for Lenovo, it's just that they were presumably in a hurry to get the model released, not that it was intentional crippleware.
I hope you're right, but pardon me for continuing to be pessimistic. Some guy once said "the price of freedom is eternal vigilance," and I really took that to heart (even if I can't remember who said it at the moment).
In other words, some kook has to keep worrying about this kind of thing, and it might as well be me.
...on some of their newer Thinkpads. You'd think that when you're spending $2000 on a "business-class" laptop, you'd get it without any artificial limitations...
If you want to do that, why don't you just combine BitTorrent and RSS, then?
Explaining the difference between a client and a server is easy: the client is the thing that "asks" for stuff, and the server is the thing that fulfills the requests. It's not as if we geeks picked these words out of thin air, you know -- they were picked for their conceptual similarity to stuff in the real world. In other words, a computer "server" and a restaurant "server" (i.e., a waiter) do the same thing: ask for a glass of water, the server gets you a glass of water; ask for a web page, the server sends you a web page. How much more bleedingly obvious could it be?
Fuck you for your condescending attitude! I wasn't talking only about music; that's just the tip of the iceberg.
The real issue here is that as computers become more deeply infested with DRM, it'll be used to stifle innovation (Did you come up with some revolutionary new way of distributing media? Too bad for you!), destroy Free Software (Oh, sorry -- your "Trusted" hardware will let you recompile your GPL'd software all you want, but it'll refuse to run it because it's not approved by Microsoft), and destroy Free Speech and the transparency of government (You found evidence of the government doing something horrible? Too bad, the public will never find out because the DRM prevents you from copying the proof. Besides, even if you did write an article about it, the Powers That Be would just use their root key to retroactively erase it.).
That's the kind of stuff that's more important than a war in a foreign country! I say that if that country has problems, let it sort them out itself. We've got plenty of our own problems right here.
Of course! But Windows only comes with a screen door, and very few people realize they need a better door, let alone know how to install one. And even if they did manage to get a better door installed, they wouldn't be able to figure out how to operate the lock!
Yeah, no kidding: we're all so caught up in "left vs. right" that we've ignored "up vs. down" (as on this). Personally, I think we'd be better off with either the Libertarians or the Greens in power (I honestly don't care which). Either would be an improvement over the authoritarian Republicrats we've got now.
Preventing us all from being turned into "digital serfs" by the MAFIAA is more important than wars in foreign countries!
As an Apple customer, I did!
Look, Apple can do what it wants. But if it wants business from people like me, it'll do what I want. And what I want is for it not to ignore its customers' problems, especially when they're caused by flaws in the product! Instead, I want it at least to acknowledge those flaws, even if there isn't anything that can be done about it. If nothing else, it'd be nice to know I'm not hallucinating if I experience them.
No, they should just not remove it! If you're looking at Slashdot or any of the various other forums around the Internet, you can usually go back all the way to the beginning and read any post that was ever made. There's no reason for Apple's forums to be any different.
If so, then they should post a reply to that effect -- not delete the whole thread!
Yo, asshole, if that's the case then turning all teachers into sex offenders is State Mandated too!
Well that just makes the problem worse! Look, do you realize the situation every teacher is now in? It's intractable! Hell, more than that, it's impossible!
Look, I don't actually have a problem with computers in the classroom; I'm just pointing out the only possible conclusion if this ruling is allowed to stand. This kind of punishment is so outrageous that it will either effectively prohibit computers in the classroom, or destroy the entirety of the teaching profession! Seriously, what are we (as a country) going to do 5 years from now when fully half the teachers are locked in federal prison because their students saw a boob or two?
That's exactly the same thing as saying that they're unwilling or unable to do their job. If that's the case, they are incompetent and should be fired.
It's not strange; it's just their way of telling everyone that RSS 0.91 is dead and people should stop using it, apparently.
Well, either the kids all fail or they get rid of the Internet testing then!
Hey asshole, do you realize what apparently happened here? Getting a reprimand is something to say "sucks to be a teacher" about. Going to prison and registering as a sex offender goes way, way beyond that!
What this ruling means is that classrooms can have teachers or computers, but not both. The liability to the teachers is too high. If I were a teacher, as soon as I found out about this I would have exactly two choices: quit, or throw away all the computers in my classroom. And I would have to do so immediately, because otherwise my life would be destroyed just because of Windows' shitty programming! After all, it's only a matter of time before this happens to every teacher, because it's simply not possible for anyone except a competent, non-overworked system administrator to prevent a Windows box from getting porn pop-ups sooner or later.
So how do people in the demo scene usually license their art? Is it Creative Commons, Public Domain, or something else?
Well, then the children are just going to have to do without computers entirely, won't they? I mean, after this ruling no sane teacher will accept having a Windows-based computer within 50 feet of the classroom -- it's just too risky!
This is insightful, not funny!
I have an urge to go sue the local school system, demanding that they remove Windows from every computer because it's mere existence is criminally negligent!
Okay, let me be more specific: the hellish part would be the time between being forced from the original cities and finishing the new ones. In other words, the time spent living in refugee camps with (most likely) insufficient water and sanitation, and suffering from famine and disease.
We can build pretty quick because we have infrastructure already in place.
That's true, but I have a feeling it could happen faster than we're prepared to deal with it.