The ironic thing is, that *I* pick these things up off the street because people don't want them. I'm doing the recycling and I can't bear to see a computer that works just thrown out.
I also grabbed an immaculately kept C64 (white model).
The 386sx has a really interesting card in it, some sort of emulation card with a BIOS. CLI 5250E, though it does'nt boot. I was hoping I could use this card to make a PC a "dumb" terminal.
I love clean up days!
My firewall will consist of 20MHz 386sx 8Mb (found on street, circa 1991), Conner CP 2045 2.5" SCSI hdd (pulled out of broken old Apple Powerbook 100), Adaptec 1542CF SCSI card (thrown out by large crisps corp.), Diamond Speedstar 24X video card (placed in permanent storage for years (when it was actually quite quick) before stupid.gov dept decides to bin them).
And completely innocent hostages, instructed to do what they're told via guns, are "bastards" how?
Do you know what a hostage is? I'm desperately searching for some glimmer of logic in your statement but none has come up yet.
You think killing terrorists along with their hostages is a good thing? I can understand that shooting down a plane that is destined to kill many more people than those on the plane is the logical thing to do, but not if it is just the easiest way out.
When this sort of incident happened in France, some French bad-arse elites stormed the plane resulting in the deaths of only the terrorists as far as I can remember. US and British special forces also have pretty good track records. Russians on the other hard seem to fix everything with a sledge hammer.
Years ago, I saw a documentary on TV about the way Russia handles stuff we tend to deal with reasonably.
I saw this big strong Russian cop grab this guy by the hair at the back of his head, and then smash his face into a wall twice, the man then fell to the ground unconscious and bleeding baddly.
I saw a woman giving birth in a Russian hospital with NO doctor present, just two nurses, one of who was yelling at the mother something to the effect of "hurry up, stupid bitch".
Also in this docco, was footage of a jetliner landing in Russia, off course due to terrorist hijackers. The hijackers demanded a helicopter, to escape once they were off the plane. The heli was provided, the terrorists got into it with some hostages for some protection and what did the Russian "elites" do next?... Fired an AA missile at the heli once it was in the air. The result? All occupants dead, including hostages.
Throughout the cold war, they only announced amazing feats they have acheived once they acheived them. They rarely stated they would attempt something, for fear of failure. How many manned rockets did they loose!?
A polish friend of mine told me that in all published books in Russia, there is a page near the front with propaganda about how superior Russia is and how weak the West is. Pretty hilarious considering.
I see the merit in leaving traditional Unix the way it is, but I also see the merit in laying down foundations properly from the start, OS X style. It would be nice to see Linux, BSD's etc adhere to some standards for individual config files though, but I wonder if everyone can agree, in a pseudo hierachy where heads are rarely on any chopping blocks and more often than not motivation is driven by individual ego when it comes to policies like this?
No doubt we'll get a bunch of different standards, most will die pretty quickly, leaving 2 to slog it out with different distros choosing opposing standards, just to make it harder for us. ; )
I love Linux, Free and OpenBSD, but I personally can't wait to get my hands on OS X. I think the people at my local Apple shop are getting sick of me hanging around. ; )
The phased array flat panel Aegis radar can focus a beam that will drop a poor little feathered creature right out of the air.
Yeah, I have heard a few times that when au Navy ships in Sydney move out past the heads, into open water, poor unsuspecting seagulls near the ships drop dead into the water when they fire up the main RADAR.
BTW, I was told back then, that our eyes have no natural cooling mechanism (no natural need I guess), which is not good when you get a face full at close range.
You just mentioned a bunch of x86 CPU's, so "x86 is x86" could be correct if you're actually talking about x86.
But "one 32bit processor is the same as another" is quite a statement. Hows about cross platform? Big endian/little endian, etc? CISC/RISC?
BTW, yesterday I found a perfectly good i386SX20 that someone does'nt want any more! Can you beleive that!? I'm hoping OpenBSD will run on it OK, for my new home dialup router.
I agree. I'm reading all this wondering why people are complaining so much. How much time do people spend in/etc anyway?
I need to get something set up, I go to/etc and either see a file or directory named something along the lines of what I'm configuring. Get it up and if I don't know it well, either quickly read the comments or the blah.conf man page... configured... working... I'm done in here for a while until I think of some other cool thing to do.
When Win95 went to a single, non-text config file (registry), I instantly thought this was going to be a really bad move. And it proved to be. Registry rot is incredible. Anyone ever notice that if you reinstall Windows about once every year or so, you get a massive boost in performance? I installed 98 the other day (just for D2:LOD, Starcraft and RainbowSix), it boots (PII-300, 512MB) in about 30 seconds and shuts down in 1-2 seconds. Prior to this, 98 was taking an age, *if* it would shut down at all, and I had all sorts of stability problems. BTW, I put the C: on a 700MB partition and used a D: of 2.5GB for the games. I burn the C: to a CDR and when things get bad, just dd it straight back to hda1.
My point is (back to the OSes that are more fun than a Frost Nova up Andariels arse), *I* want to mess with those config files, rather than have some app(s) messing with one really important file.
Does this really do the job? I know nothing about wireless networks (even though mine works great) but I have to wonder if beefing up one end of the system really works.
Does this really work? I don't know since I don't have a wireless network yet.
I mean, if the card in my laptop still sucks can improving the base station really help? Don't you need to improve both sides for a system that sends and receives?
No. Improving antenna gain, improves both radiated signal strength and also sensitivity to received signals. But of course, doing both ends justice will yield the best results, assuming the antenna designs are appropriate for the task. Having a dish for both ends is overkill and most likely completely ineffective for anything other than fixed point to fixed point comms.
When I get my wireless network gear, I'll be building antennas depending on what I want to do. Half wave verticle for just the home network, but a parabolic dish for links to my local free-to-air geek network. But then, I was working in RADAR in the late 80's and have a few ARRL antenna books since then.
Top notch RADAR systems use little antennas inside VERY highly engineered waveguides pointing to parabolic dishes (for the really high power stuff). If I were these guys, I'd forget the mucking around with this and that, and learn the science to build something that is damn good. There are of course gains to be had with a bit of experimenting, but theres nothing like learning something and then building something which works really well.
BTW, out of interest, the Navy RADAR's are MEGA watt. Eyeball popping at point blank range. If you see a Navy ship in a bay, with it's main RADAR spinning around, it is most likely NOT radiating, they can and do spin at times without any radiating, those BIG dishes can stop in an instant and can also elevate (which is cool to see, since they look like they'd take a while to get up to speed if you did'nt know otherwise). I heard a story years ago about an Aussie ship in a NZ harbor, main RADAR spinning but not radiating... some sailor accidentally switched that bad boy ON....;) The big iron in the banks in that NZ harbor went down real quick. These things can light up flourescent light tubes from km's. Hell, these RADAR's have to emit enough power to light up an inbound missle skimming the ocean, a missle with a REALLY small RADAR reflection coming up over the horizon at around 30km. Admittedly, with those things travelling at the speeds they do, the doppler effect tends to cause them to stand out like dogs balls. But the Navy would still like to know about anything and everything around them, a lot further than 30km, if it is stupid enough to be flying high enough that is.
I think my resume is quite good. I have electronics/telecoms/computing back to the late 80's including defence and stock exchange network support, but now I need to resort to getting certifications to get work.
In Sydney, no MCSE, CCNA, etc, no work.
The market is saturated with newbie wanabies who have plenty of cert but almost nil experience, so it's hard to get noticed when companies are expecting cert.
So, I'm fixing that now but I kinda wish I would'nt have to. Most MCSE's I've met would'nt know a kernel if it blue screened on them.
I was all ready to purchase a Sun Blade 100, so I rang Sun with some questions. The guy I spoke to was rude and when I asked if I could upgrade it myself some time in the future with more RAM and larger hard drives, I was pretty much told that if I so much as opened the unit, the warrantee would be void.
I remember when AltaVista (back in 1996) was boasting that they had 1GB of RAM for their search engine.:)
But RAM was so cheap up until recently and Google uses so many servers, that I think it probably would be cheaper for them to just work out of RAM. No disk or LAN medium can match RAM for access time, transfer rate and life span and these things are probably most important to Google.
Trying to have extremely fast disk sub systems in each server in the Google farms would probably incur very high expense space, yeilding much more space than required and much slower space of that which is actually used.
I don't think this comes down to the typical MB/$ comparison between disks and RAM because Google might only have a gig or so in each server, with lots of servers.
If you're comparing a gig of really fast memory between RAM and disk, it is easy to see which is cheaper. A gig of RAM would have cost me a few months ago in Sydney ~$300.
Whereas a gig of the fastest disk I could possibly get might cost me tens of thousands for a load of 15k RPM SCSI disks and a few 64bit PCI hardware RAID-0 cards so that I could only get a meazly 528MB/s transfer rate out of, probably half that of the RAM speed and access times for the RAM would be astonishingly faster than any disk, resulting also in many hundreds of gigs that will probably mostly not be required. Far too expensive, far too ineffective. Google needs fast access times and transfer rates the most, but the fastest of SCSI systems will have their transfer rates killed by zillions of very poor access times. Random access does'nt hurt transfer rates with RAM, the way it does for disk.
In the end, these machines would probably just end up being configured to each serve what they could cache with RAM so as to keep up with the demand, so why not just boot all these machines off a little flash disk and then just work the engine out of RAM?
This does'nt just come down to needing RAM or disks that can transfer as fast as the network interfaces, since this is not a simple cache or file server. These servers need to search through their whole index a fast as possible, and doing this in RAM at super high speeds is going to be much more economical in RAM than disk. I doubt Google could even be feasible working out of disks.
PS, when I was working for the stock exchange, I was glad to see that the main and backup sites had computer and phone data all redundant through landline and microwave links.
A lot of Co's use microwave in au and I guess it's not just because it's cheaper in the long run!
(BTW, the ASX microwave link did go down once that I know of, when construction work between the sites had a large crane sometimes blocking the line of sight.)
Guys, the UPS setup you use probably seems insignificant if the land line providers you use balls stuff up every now and then. ; )
In 1991, I was working for.au Telecom's Digital Data Network team. I was a trainee at the Haymarket exchange and we were doing some old cable removal. Thick (ish, thick if compared with UTP, thin if you're thinking inter-continental submarine data cables) cables servicing many big companies. We tended to sell leased lines and packet switched lines to large, important companies. Small companies could not afford the prices we charged for so much as a 300bps connection and ISDN we were charging crazy money for back then. So, when my boss told me to cut that fat cable, I double checked his request and then cut it with a big cable cutter (kinda like a bolt cutter, except for cables)....
A couple of banks local to Haymarket Sydney... DOWN. The Haymarket TAB (sports betting)... DOWN. Various other angry customers down too.
Man I wish I could have known what I was cutting before I did, so I could enjoy it a bit more. ; )
Plenty of guys, including myself, that night were doing unpaid overtime. The union would have loved to hear about that. DDN was always touting these incredible uptimes for their services, yet they were not really that great. That boss of mine was a real fuckwit (ex army arsehole) anyway.
Duh, that was my point. Of course GNOME is more stable; more attention is paid to GNOME than to KDE, hence my peeve.
I was under the impression that much of the KDE instability was due to most of KDE being done in C++, something that the gcc folks themselves state, is not yet anywhere near as stable in their compiler as C is.
Why does Red Hat and Sun prefer Gnome? And what's with all the erm and duh? Another/. 12 year old? Maybe they came to the same conclusion many do, KDE is less configurable and less stable and if KDE were'nt so braindead in some of their licence decisions in the past, more would have embraced it to the point where it is on top. KDE can die for all I care.
gzip'ed or bzip2'ed? (that's a joke BTW, for the dork who is going to no doubt take me seriously and reply at length.)
Perhaps if someone piped their radio through their speech recognition software, to get this transmission back into some compilable form, we might be able to finally get back to legendary Microsoft stability. (now this, is sarcasm.)
I have a Casio Mini (Casio's first handheld electronic calculator) that has 6 x 7 segment VFD displays. The tubes are seperate, perfect for H:M:S.
This calc is interesting as it has a fixed decimal point not shown on the display and is not capable of user entry of a decimal point.
Good condition with a slight dent and little corrosion on battery terminals. It's up for sale if anyone is interested in it or it's small tubes? Collectors item and I'm not a collector of old calcs (I prefer my 48GX).
The initial install, and the pain it invokes, matters to some because some people never get past the install. Duh.
What are those people doing playing with linux then? At some stage, no matter how cute Red Hat or Mandrakes installer is or the in-GUI user friendliness, you'll have to do something in linux that'll be a whole lot hairier than the Debian installer.
Personally, my only peeve with Debian (Sid) is that nobody can seem to maintain KDE properly,
Not a problem for me, I prefer Gnome. Seems to be more stable than KDE, though I have'nt bothered to use it in a long while.
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The ironic thing is, that *I* pick these things up off the street because people don't want them. I'm doing the recycling and I can't bear to see a computer that works just thrown out.
.gov dept decides to bin them).
I also grabbed an immaculately kept C64 (white model).
The 386sx has a really interesting card in it, some sort of emulation card with a BIOS. CLI 5250E, though it does'nt boot. I was hoping I could use this card to make a PC a "dumb" terminal.
I love clean up days!
My firewall will consist of 20MHz 386sx 8Mb (found on street, circa 1991), Conner CP 2045 2.5" SCSI hdd (pulled out of broken old Apple Powerbook 100), Adaptec 1542CF SCSI card (thrown out by large crisps corp.), Diamond Speedstar 24X video card (placed in permanent storage for years (when it was actually quite quick) before stupid
If I show that my firewall/router is a 386sx 8Mb running OpenBSD?
Dude, no Dell - I want a Beowulf cluster of those!! :)
Imagine a Beowulf cluster of 110GHz IBM's all interconnected with some IBM 110GHz switches!!
Yikes.
I think I better upgrade my key length a bit or 1024.
ditto.
PS Blizzard, your Battle.net servers SUCK.
This would have at least given some countries not blessed with your shite servers, something local to play with which has decent latency.
No bargains, no money, just kill the bastards.
And completely innocent hostages, instructed to do what they're told via guns, are "bastards" how?
Do you know what a hostage is? I'm desperately searching for some glimmer of logic in your statement but none has come up yet.
You think killing terrorists along with their hostages is a good thing? I can understand that shooting down a plane that is destined to kill many more people than those on the plane is the logical thing to do, but not if it is just the easiest way out.
When this sort of incident happened in France, some French bad-arse elites stormed the plane resulting in the deaths of only the terrorists as far as I can remember. US and British special forces also have pretty good track records. Russians on the other hard seem to fix everything with a sledge hammer.
Who else originally found this place because they were looking for WindowMaker .10 -era related sites, and watched Rob's link collection grow?
I can't remember what I was looking for, but I remember his cute java game and toonish characters.
Years ago, I saw a documentary on TV about the way Russia handles stuff we tend to deal with reasonably.
I saw this big strong Russian cop grab this guy by the hair at the back of his head, and then smash his face into a wall twice, the man then fell to the ground unconscious and bleeding baddly.
I saw a woman giving birth in a Russian hospital with NO doctor present, just two nurses, one of who was yelling at the mother something to the effect of "hurry up, stupid bitch".
Also in this docco, was footage of a jetliner landing in Russia, off course due to terrorist hijackers. The hijackers demanded a helicopter, to escape once they were off the plane. The heli was provided, the terrorists got into it with some hostages for some protection and what did the Russian "elites" do next?... Fired an AA missile at the heli once it was in the air. The result? All occupants dead, including hostages.
Throughout the cold war, they only announced amazing feats they have acheived once they acheived them. They rarely stated they would attempt something, for fear of failure. How many manned rockets did they loose!?
A polish friend of mine told me that in all published books in Russia, there is a page near the front with propaganda about how superior Russia is and how weak the West is. Pretty hilarious considering.
The Multia?
I see the merit in leaving traditional Unix the way it is, but I also see the merit in laying down foundations properly from the start, OS X style. It would be nice to see Linux, BSD's etc adhere to some standards for individual config files though, but I wonder if everyone can agree, in a pseudo hierachy where heads are rarely on any chopping blocks and more often than not motivation is driven by individual ego when it comes to policies like this?
No doubt we'll get a bunch of different standards, most will die pretty quickly, leaving 2 to slog it out with different distros choosing opposing standards, just to make it harder for us. ; )
I love Linux, Free and OpenBSD, but I personally can't wait to get my hands on OS X. I think the people at my local Apple shop are getting sick of me hanging around. ; )
The phased array flat panel Aegis radar can focus a beam that will drop a poor little feathered creature right out of the air.
Yeah, I have heard a few times that when au Navy ships in Sydney move out past the heads, into open water, poor unsuspecting seagulls near the ships drop dead into the water when they fire up the main RADAR.
BTW, I was told back then, that our eyes have no natural cooling mechanism (no natural need I guess), which is not good when you get a face full at close range.
You say "Debian is not Free Software" and then call this guy ignorant?
You sir, are a class AA fuckwit.
I find Testing, to be the most stable Linux distro I have ever used, besides Stable.
At best, I guess I could give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you to just be a troll. PS, this is a compliment.
You just mentioned a bunch of x86 CPU's, so "x86 is x86" could be correct if you're actually talking about x86.
But "one 32bit processor is the same as another" is quite a statement. Hows about cross platform? Big endian/little endian, etc? CISC/RISC?
BTW, yesterday I found a perfectly good i386SX20 that someone does'nt want any more! Can you beleive that!? I'm hoping OpenBSD will run on it OK, for my new home dialup router.
that is UNIX. Take it or leave it.
/etc anyway?
/etc and either see a file or directory named something along the lines of what I'm configuring. Get it up and if I don't know it well, either quickly read the comments or the blah.conf man page... configured... working... I'm done in here for a while until I think of some other cool thing to do.
I agree. I'm reading all this wondering why people are complaining so much. How much time do people spend in
I need to get something set up, I go to
When Win95 went to a single, non-text config file (registry), I instantly thought this was going to be a really bad move. And it proved to be. Registry rot is incredible. Anyone ever notice that if you reinstall Windows about once every year or so, you get a massive boost in performance? I installed 98 the other day (just for D2:LOD, Starcraft and RainbowSix), it boots (PII-300, 512MB) in about 30 seconds and shuts down in 1-2 seconds. Prior to this, 98 was taking an age, *if* it would shut down at all, and I had all sorts of stability problems. BTW, I put the C: on a 700MB partition and used a D: of 2.5GB for the games. I burn the C: to a CDR and when things get bad, just dd it straight back to hda1.
My point is (back to the OSes that are more fun than a Frost Nova up Andariels arse), *I* want to mess with those config files, rather than have some app(s) messing with one really important file.
I like it too.
Does this really do the job? I know nothing about wireless networks (even though mine works great) but I have to wonder if beefing up one end of the system really works.
;) The big iron in the banks in that NZ harbor went down real quick. These things can light up flourescent light tubes from km's. Hell, these RADAR's have to emit enough power to light up an inbound missle skimming the ocean, a missle with a REALLY small RADAR reflection coming up over the horizon at around 30km. Admittedly, with those things travelling at the speeds they do, the doppler effect tends to cause them to stand out like dogs balls. But the Navy would still like to know about anything and everything around them, a lot further than 30km, if it is stupid enough to be flying high enough that is.
Does this really work? I don't know since I don't have a wireless network yet.
I mean, if the card in my laptop still sucks can improving the base station really help? Don't you need to improve both sides for a system that sends and receives?
No. Improving antenna gain, improves both radiated signal strength and also sensitivity to received signals. But of course, doing both ends justice will yield the best results, assuming the antenna designs are appropriate for the task. Having a dish for both ends is overkill and most likely completely ineffective for anything other than fixed point to fixed point comms.
When I get my wireless network gear, I'll be building antennas depending on what I want to do. Half wave verticle for just the home network, but a parabolic dish for links to my local free-to-air geek network. But then, I was working in RADAR in the late 80's and have a few ARRL antenna books since then.
Top notch RADAR systems use little antennas inside VERY highly engineered waveguides pointing to parabolic dishes (for the really high power stuff). If I were these guys, I'd forget the mucking around with this and that, and learn the science to build something that is damn good. There are of course gains to be had with a bit of experimenting, but theres nothing like learning something and then building something which works really well.
BTW, out of interest, the Navy RADAR's are MEGA watt. Eyeball popping at point blank range. If you see a Navy ship in a bay, with it's main RADAR spinning around, it is most likely NOT radiating, they can and do spin at times without any radiating, those BIG dishes can stop in an instant and can also elevate (which is cool to see, since they look like they'd take a while to get up to speed if you did'nt know otherwise). I heard a story years ago about an Aussie ship in a NZ harbor, main RADAR spinning but not radiating... some sailor accidentally switched that bad boy ON....
god bloody awful.
I think my resume is quite good. I have electronics/telecoms/computing back to the late 80's including defence and stock exchange network support, but now I need to resort to getting certifications to get work.
In Sydney, no MCSE, CCNA, etc, no work.
The market is saturated with newbie wanabies who have plenty of cert but almost nil experience, so it's hard to get noticed when companies are expecting cert.
So, I'm fixing that now but I kinda wish I would'nt have to. Most MCSE's I've met would'nt know a kernel if it blue screened on them.
Yeah, I really don't like their attitude either.
I was all ready to purchase a Sun Blade 100, so I rang Sun with some questions. The guy I spoke to was rude and when I asked if I could upgrade it myself some time in the future with more RAM and larger hard drives, I was pretty much told that if I so much as opened the unit, the warrantee would be void.
Apple does'nt even take a stance like that.
The idea that all this is on DRAM is staggering.
:)
I remember when AltaVista (back in 1996) was boasting that they had 1GB of RAM for their search engine.
But RAM was so cheap up until recently and Google uses so many servers, that I think it probably would be cheaper for them to just work out of RAM. No disk or LAN medium can match RAM for access time, transfer rate and life span and these things are probably most important to Google.
Trying to have extremely fast disk sub systems in each server in the Google farms would probably incur very high expense space, yeilding much more space than required and much slower space of that which is actually used.
I don't think this comes down to the typical MB/$ comparison between disks and RAM because Google might only have a gig or so in each server, with lots of servers.
If you're comparing a gig of really fast memory between RAM and disk, it is easy to see which is cheaper. A gig of RAM would have cost me a few months ago in Sydney ~$300.
Whereas a gig of the fastest disk I could possibly get might cost me tens of thousands for a load of 15k RPM SCSI disks and a few 64bit PCI hardware RAID-0 cards so that I could only get a meazly 528MB/s transfer rate out of, probably half that of the RAM speed and access times for the RAM would be astonishingly faster than any disk, resulting also in many hundreds of gigs that will probably mostly not be required. Far too expensive, far too ineffective. Google needs fast access times and transfer rates the most, but the fastest of SCSI systems will have their transfer rates killed by zillions of very poor access times. Random access does'nt hurt transfer rates with RAM, the way it does for disk.
In the end, these machines would probably just end up being configured to each serve what they could cache with RAM so as to keep up with the demand, so why not just boot all these machines off a little flash disk and then just work the engine out of RAM?
This does'nt just come down to needing RAM or disks that can transfer as fast as the network interfaces, since this is not a simple cache or file server. These servers need to search through their whole index a fast as possible, and doing this in RAM at super high speeds is going to be much more economical in RAM than disk. I doubt Google could even be feasible working out of disks.
PS, when I was working for the stock exchange, I was glad to see that the main and backup sites had computer and phone data all redundant through landline and microwave links.
A lot of Co's use microwave in au and I guess it's not just because it's cheaper in the long run!
(BTW, the ASX microwave link did go down once that I know of, when construction work between the sites had a large crane sometimes blocking the line of sight.)
Guys, the UPS setup you use probably seems insignificant if the land line providers you use balls stuff up every now and then. ; )
.au Telecom's Digital Data Network team. I was a trainee at the Haymarket exchange and we were doing some old cable removal. Thick (ish, thick if compared with UTP, thin if you're thinking inter-continental submarine data cables) cables servicing many big companies. We tended to sell leased lines and packet switched lines to large, important companies. Small companies could not afford the prices we charged for so much as a 300bps connection and ISDN we were charging crazy money for back then. So, when my boss told me to cut that fat cable, I double checked his request and then cut it with a big cable cutter (kinda like a bolt cutter, except for cables)....
In 1991, I was working for
A couple of banks local to Haymarket Sydney... DOWN. The Haymarket TAB (sports betting)... DOWN. Various other angry customers down too.
Man I wish I could have known what I was cutting before I did, so I could enjoy it a bit more. ; )
Plenty of guys, including myself, that night were doing unpaid overtime. The union would have loved to hear about that. DDN was always touting these incredible uptimes for their services, yet they were not really that great. That boss of mine was a real fuckwit (ex army arsehole) anyway.
Duh, that was my point. Of course GNOME is more stable; more attention is paid to GNOME than to KDE, hence my peeve.
/. 12 year old? Maybe they came to the same conclusion many do, KDE is less configurable and less stable and if KDE were'nt so braindead in some of their licence decisions in the past, more would have embraced it to the point where it is on top. KDE can die for all I care.
I was under the impression that much of the KDE instability was due to most of KDE being done in C++, something that the gcc folks themselves state, is not yet anywhere near as stable in their compiler as C is.
Why does Red Hat and Sun prefer Gnome? And what's with all the erm and duh? Another
I like cheese I'm lactose intolerant.
gzip'ed or bzip2'ed? (that's a joke BTW, for the dork who is going to no doubt take me seriously and reply at length.)
Perhaps if someone piped their radio through their speech recognition software, to get this transmission back into some compilable form, we might be able to finally get back to legendary Microsoft stability. (now this, is sarcasm.)
Does Vacume Fluro Display constitute Nixie?
I have a Casio Mini (Casio's first handheld electronic calculator) that has 6 x 7 segment VFD displays. The tubes are seperate, perfect for H:M:S.
This calc is interesting as it has a fixed decimal point not shown on the display and is not capable of user entry of a decimal point.
Good condition with a slight dent and little corrosion on battery terminals. It's up for sale if anyone is interested in it or it's small tubes? Collectors item and I'm not a collector of old calcs (I prefer my 48GX).
shanep AT ign DOT com DOT au
The initial install, and the pain it invokes, matters to some because some people never get past the install. Duh.
What are those people doing playing with linux then? At some stage, no matter how cute Red Hat or Mandrakes installer is or the in-GUI user friendliness, you'll have to do something in linux that'll be a whole lot hairier than the Debian installer.
Personally, my only peeve with Debian (Sid) is that nobody can seem to maintain KDE properly,
Not a problem for me, I prefer Gnome. Seems to be more stable than KDE, though I have'nt bothered to use it in a long while.
Thanks for the clarification. I saw it yesterday and could have sworn the wizard said something to the effect of "it's some form of Elvish".
Then, I've never read the book and the flick was pretty long for me to remember.
I was thinking, "is this never going to end?" and then..... it did'nt. ; )
Loved it though.
My favorite Debian based distro in GNU/Linux.