Ah, but to use your analogy, the Ford you want to buy is suddenly bought up from the original owner by the short trader, who sells it to you for a few dollars more than what you would have paid simply because he beat you to the street corner by a few minutes. The short trader brings nothing to the transaction other than forcing himself into a middleman position. Unlike a person selling a used car, he does not use the the car, bring it to your door or perform any other service.
Tell me again that this is fair.
I'm sorry. I was replying to your original post about taking money away from the company the stock is invested in. Was that not really your point? Short term traders do no such thing (your use of the term "short traders" most accurately describes a "seller" of a security, not how long they held it).
On topic to your reply:
Fair or not, there are people who do such things. I know of people who buy cars off of corners, put work into them (sometimes) and sell it on a different corner. So what? That's part of the capitalistic system. But again, that's not the argument you made in your original post. Is this "hurting" traders? Some would say that it is. But the software was designed to see when someone like Warren Buffet or Jimmy Buffet puts in his order for a million shares but splits it up across 30 to 100 different lots. It's like being able to see a wave before it swells. In the short run it makes some stocks slightly more expensive - if you can sell 1,000,000 shares of a stock to Buffet at.001 more than you can buy them for you made a fast $1000.00 (minus fees). If you can do that all day long you have a business. Oh, and Warren Buffet can choose not to pay.001/share more by using limit orders instead of market or stop orders.
As far as the exchanges are concerned, they want the "speculators" and fast traders. It makes for a more fluid and efficient market. I know they want them because the exchange rules specifically allow them to see orders seconds before the rest of the market.
The fast traders do not hurt the company. They take advantage of the pricing disparity between the bid and ask price.
I believe fast traders are malignant as they do not add to the health of the company being traded, and instead siphon off capital that could have been invested in that company. They are gamblers, not investors. Your concentrating on the investors ignores the fact that the market is supposed to promote a healthy investment climate for businesses, not be a get rich quick scheme.
Fast traders do nothing to the underlying company. Nor do slow traders or investors. Unless you buy at the IPO or somehow manage to purchase directly from the company - company issued stock options for example - the company never sees the money. Oblig car analogy: if you buy a used Ford off the street corner, Ford does not pocket any of the sale price.
Election fraud? No. Severe intimidation of possible opponents? Yes. Intimidation of critical journalists?
These parts should not be marked flamebait as they are 100% true. Severe smear campaigns, leaked "investigations" against his opponents, attempting to circumvent the First Amendment and intimidate independent newspapers critical of the Sheriff. He is the type of guy who would subpoena/. for every negative post just as he tried to subpoena the publishers of Live(? the small independent paper critical of him and his actions) for the names, phone numbers and home addresses of its reporters as well as all sources.
It probably doesn't hurt that he's disenfranchised a significant portion of the population likely to have been directly wronged by his policies as well.
Um, you mean illegal immigrants who do not have the right to vote? No. Does he seem to concentrate his "crime sweeps" on illegal immigration, absolutely. And he's pissed at Napolitano for changing the guidelines. Now you have to have done something else wrong first before violation of human smuggling laws against the "smugglee" can be enforced. And Joe doesn't like that one bit.
Patching a security hole ASAP is a good thing. But it's still unusual behavior from Microsoft. One would expect them to wait 2 weeks for the normal Patch Tuesday.
You mean you would expect them to wait 18 months and two weeks? That's absolutely ridiculous! The only reason to release now is that it's being exploited in the wild. Do you really think they would have fixed it on patch Tuesday if they hadn't done so in 18 months?
"Intelligent thought" as you put it is the capitalists' best ally: he WANTS his customers to be happy at the price point that makes him the most money. If his products - in this case games - are too expensive, he will reduce his pricing to hit the most profitable point on the curve where expenses are most minimal and sales the highest. It's a self-interest game, certainly, but it's a self interest game that helps the customer.
They must not be capitalists then because they don't use "intelligent thought". Instead they try to lock their product in a DRM scheme that only pisses people off and call their customers thieves. Optimal price point? I doubt these companies know what that means. Heck, maybe they can hire Gates to write a letter to the gaming community and see how well that works.
TFA stated that this was on prepaid cards. BOA issues what some consider to be credit rebuilding cards. He had to send in maybe $500.00 and got a $500.00 "credit line". This is someone with no credit history or a really trashed credit history. His reaction is not totally out of line when you realize what kind of people have to have prepaid cards.
(A few particularly crazy farmers might disagree, and probably have elaborate conspiracy theories that start with Obama getting elected, involve a world government, stem cells somehow, climax with gun control, and end in the apocalypse, but I'd like to ignore those people as usual.)
The poster is right- you can't use viruses as a cost of ownership. If you can, then I am going to count all those driver issues with Linux I had in the past as part of the cost.
Then you would be right in line with everyone else who already counts driver issues against *nix. You aren't changing anything - you are merely repeating the party line regarding "difficulty of use". I think the quote, "*nix is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are," applies here.
Wow. If you don't really have time to answer the question (even if you have the expertise) why the hell are you spending time on/. posting about how you have no time?
Perhaps the real bread and circuses is all this whining about copyright while your nation fights two wars, has out of control military spending, locks up non-violent drug offenders, arrests medical marijuana growers, denies rights to gays, is in the middle of an economic meltdown, has out of control gun laws, etc etc etc, yet here we are arguing the minutia of copyright law. If anyone is guilty of deceiving the public with inconsequential shit, its us geeks, not Obama. Whining about copyright and quoting Ayn Rand is not how you fix things. Bread and circuses indeed!
We can't pick which front to fight/ignore. The moment - the very moment - we choose to concentrate more on the wars, military spending, etc. the other rights will begin slipping. We must continue to push back just to maintain rights that have been codified; to beat back against the new laws, just like the old laws. Democracy doesn't die with a bang, but with a whisper.
If a truck driver wasn't able to use the correct name for the parts in their rig, whilst asking the mechanic for help, wouldn't the mechanic have the right to judge their ignorance with concern?
Truck drivers, by law, must know what the parts on their rigs are since they have to inspect them daily to ensure safe and proper operation.
However the justifications for piracy are a little tough to bear. It's incomprehensible to us that people should be offended by the notion of paying for every song and/or movie in their collection.
I'm offended by having to buy four copies to play in four different places. If I buy a CD - and I do - I want to be able to listen to it at home, in my car and on my MP3 player. I only download for free those tracks that are offered for free by the artist/vendor. Amazon.com has free tracks from time to time. So does Janis Ian. So do other MP3 sites. Stop pretending that I'm hurting you because you only sold be a CD and couldn't get me to buy all the different formats you can think up.
There was an interview on NPR where the guest stated that states like NV were paying to install desalination plants in CA in exchange for a bigger cut of the water CA gets from places like the Salt River.
Florida still has the Tri-County rail don't they? Not all ideas are feasible, but we will continue to need transportation (unless the transporter becomes fact, and even then Kirk, et al use shuttle craft) especially as we live further and further from work.
Dividends are double taxed. Interest is a business expense that only the receiver pays tax on. Bondholders also are first in line in a liquidation (not that I see that happening with MS) and have to be paid their interest. There is nothing guaranteeing that a shareholder will get anything from their investment.
Extensive trials using the Fastech 360 test trains has shown that operation at 360 km/h (224 mph) is not currently feasible due to problems of noise pollution, overhead wire wear, and braking distances. This may indicate the limits to railed Shinkansen technology, and eventually maglev or another technology will need to replace it.
So forget about the solar panel aspect (that's probably just there to get the tax breaks & incentives in the new budget). The train tech itself is not going to go that fast. Something tells me they also don't account for emabrkment/disembarkment of passengers & luggage in that 30 minute time estimate.
Yes it would be faster than by car. However, the complete overselling of this & that it's two guys asking for large sums of money up front for "feasability" studies just smells like a scam.
Just get Lyle Lanley to build you a monorail instead - it'll give you the same result.
Have you seen the Arizona desert? There is plenty of braking distance out here.
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Ah, but to use your analogy, the Ford you want to buy is suddenly bought up from the original owner by the short trader, who sells it to you for a few dollars more than what you would have paid simply because he beat you to the street corner by a few minutes. The short trader brings nothing to the transaction other than forcing himself into a middleman position. Unlike a person selling a used car, he does not use the the car, bring it to your door or perform any other service.
Tell me again that this is fair.
I'm sorry. I was replying to your original post about taking money away from the company the stock is invested in. Was that not really your point? Short term traders do no such thing (your use of the term "short traders" most accurately describes a "seller" of a security, not how long they held it).
On topic to your reply: Fair or not, there are people who do such things. I know of people who buy cars off of corners, put work into them (sometimes) and sell it on a different corner. So what? That's part of the capitalistic system. But again, that's not the argument you made in your original post. Is this "hurting" traders? Some would say that it is. But the software was designed to see when someone like Warren Buffet or Jimmy Buffet puts in his order for a million shares but splits it up across 30 to 100 different lots. It's like being able to see a wave before it swells. In the short run it makes some stocks slightly more expensive - if you can sell 1,000,000 shares of a stock to Buffet at .001 more than you can buy them for you made a fast $1000.00 (minus fees). If you can do that all day long you have a business. Oh, and Warren Buffet can choose not to pay .001/share more by using limit orders instead of market or stop orders.
As far as the exchanges are concerned, they want the "speculators" and fast traders. It makes for a more fluid and efficient market. I know they want them because the exchange rules specifically allow them to see orders seconds before the rest of the market.
The fast traders do not hurt the company. They take advantage of the pricing disparity between the bid and ask price.
I believe fast traders are malignant as they do not add to the health of the company being traded, and instead siphon off capital that could have been invested in that company. They are gamblers, not investors. Your concentrating on the investors ignores the fact that the market is supposed to promote a healthy investment climate for businesses, not be a get rich quick scheme.
Fast traders do nothing to the underlying company. Nor do slow traders or investors. Unless you buy at the IPO or somehow manage to purchase directly from the company - company issued stock options for example - the company never sees the money. Oblig car analogy: if you buy a used Ford off the street corner, Ford does not pocket any of the sale price.
Custom XML allows people to create forms or templates such that words in certain fields are tagged and then can be managed in a database...
This would seem to actually affect only a limited number of MS customers. Perhaps large customers, but limited in numbers.
Large companies and government agencies, for example, might create such templates.
Election fraud? No. Severe intimidation of possible opponents? Yes. Intimidation of critical journalists?
These parts should not be marked flamebait as they are 100% true. Severe smear campaigns, leaked "investigations" against his opponents, attempting to circumvent the First Amendment and intimidate independent newspapers critical of the Sheriff. He is the type of guy who would subpoena /. for every negative post just as he tried to subpoena the publishers of Live(? the small independent paper critical of him and his actions) for the names, phone numbers and home addresses of its reporters as well as all sources.
It probably doesn't hurt that he's disenfranchised a significant portion of the population likely to have been directly wronged by his policies as well.
Um, you mean illegal immigrants who do not have the right to vote? No. Does he seem to concentrate his "crime sweeps" on illegal immigration, absolutely. And he's pissed at Napolitano for changing the guidelines. Now you have to have done something else wrong first before violation of human smuggling laws against the "smugglee" can be enforced. And Joe doesn't like that one bit.
What's even more amusing is the first result:
Why are Mac's So Expensive? - Yahoo! Answers
I could care less about whether or not macs are more expensive, or about commercial OSS prices.
I just want accurate results from a search engine.
Well, don't use Bing.com then. It's a "decision engine" not a search engine.
Patching a security hole ASAP is a good thing. But it's still unusual behavior from Microsoft. One would expect them to wait 2 weeks for the normal Patch Tuesday.
You mean you would expect them to wait 18 months and two weeks? That's absolutely ridiculous! The only reason to release now is that it's being exploited in the wild. Do you really think they would have fixed it on patch Tuesday if they hadn't done so in 18 months?
"Intelligent thought" as you put it is the capitalists' best ally: he WANTS his customers to be happy at the price point that makes him the most money. If his products - in this case games - are too expensive, he will reduce his pricing to hit the most profitable point on the curve where expenses are most minimal and sales the highest. It's a self-interest game, certainly, but it's a self interest game that helps the customer.
They must not be capitalists then because they don't use "intelligent thought". Instead they try to lock their product in a DRM scheme that only pisses people off and call their customers thieves. Optimal price point? I doubt these companies know what that means. Heck, maybe they can hire Gates to write a letter to the gaming community and see how well that works.
CygWin+bash == good
Bah! Who needs 8 track when you have reel to reel?
TFA stated that this was on prepaid cards. BOA issues what some consider to be credit rebuilding cards. He had to send in maybe $500.00 and got a $500.00 "credit line". This is someone with no credit history or a really trashed credit history. His reaction is not totally out of line when you realize what kind of people have to have prepaid cards.
(A few particularly crazy farmers might disagree, and probably have elaborate conspiracy theories that start with Obama getting elected, involve a world government, stem cells somehow, climax with gun control, and end in the apocalypse, but I'd like to ignore those people as usual.)
You say that like it's not true...
The poster is right- you can't use viruses as a cost of ownership. If you can, then I am going to count all those driver issues with Linux I had in the past as part of the cost.
Then you would be right in line with everyone else who already counts driver issues against *nix. You aren't changing anything - you are merely repeating the party line regarding "difficulty of use". I think the quote, "*nix is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are," applies here.
Wow. If you don't really have time to answer the question (even if you have the expertise) why the hell are you spending time on /. posting about how you have no time?
Perhaps the real bread and circuses is all this whining about copyright while your nation fights two wars, has out of control military spending, locks up non-violent drug offenders, arrests medical marijuana growers, denies rights to gays, is in the middle of an economic meltdown, has out of control gun laws, etc etc etc, yet here we are arguing the minutia of copyright law. If anyone is guilty of deceiving the public with inconsequential shit, its us geeks, not Obama. Whining about copyright and quoting Ayn Rand is not how you fix things. Bread and circuses indeed!
We can't pick which front to fight/ignore. The moment - the very moment - we choose to concentrate more on the wars, military spending, etc. the other rights will begin slipping. We must continue to push back just to maintain rights that have been codified; to beat back against the new laws, just like the old laws. Democracy doesn't die with a bang, but with a whisper.
If a truck driver wasn't able to use the correct name for the parts in their rig, whilst asking the mechanic for help, wouldn't the mechanic have the right to judge their ignorance with concern?
Truck drivers, by law, must know what the parts on their rigs are since they have to inspect them daily to ensure safe and proper operation.
However the justifications for piracy are a little tough to bear. It's incomprehensible to us that people should be offended by the notion of paying for every song and/or movie in their collection.
I'm offended by having to buy four copies to play in four different places. If I buy a CD - and I do - I want to be able to listen to it at home, in my car and on my MP3 player. I only download for free those tracks that are offered for free by the artist/vendor. Amazon.com has free tracks from time to time. So does Janis Ian. So do other MP3 sites. Stop pretending that I'm hurting you because you only sold be a CD and couldn't get me to buy all the different formats you can think up.
There was an interview on NPR where the guest stated that states like NV were paying to install desalination plants in CA in exchange for a bigger cut of the water CA gets from places like the Salt River.
They also serve to take out stupid people who can't pay attention to the "no turn" lights.
Florida still has the Tri-County rail don't they? Not all ideas are feasible, but we will continue to need transportation (unless the transporter becomes fact, and even then Kirk, et al use shuttle craft) especially as we live further and further from work.
Dividends are double taxed. Interest is a business expense that only the receiver pays tax on. Bondholders also are first in line in a liquidation (not that I see that happening with MS) and have to be paid their interest. There is nothing guaranteeing that a shareholder will get anything from their investment.
They might be buying back stock to retire it or plop it into "treasury stock" but this is not typically stock that you resell on the open market.
And that article states they purposefully reduced cash by buying back outstanding stock and paying dividends - they didn't lose it all...
Debt doesn't play into taxes - paying interest on the debt does to some extent.
This just smells like a scam trying to make money off of bailout money.
From the Wikipedia page:
So forget about the solar panel aspect (that's probably just there to get the tax breaks & incentives in the new budget). The train tech itself is not going to go that fast. Something tells me they also don't account for emabrkment/disembarkment of passengers & luggage in that 30 minute time estimate.
Yes it would be faster than by car. However, the complete overselling of this & that it's two guys asking for large sums of money up front for "feasability" studies just smells like a scam.
Just get Lyle Lanley to build you a monorail instead - it'll give you the same result.
Have you seen the Arizona desert? There is plenty of braking distance out here.