IMHO this is a pretty short-sighted ruling. If I were google, I'd halt business in France, and possibly block access to google from known French ip address blocks. That ought to annoy enough people in France so they get the French court system to reverse it's ruling.
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I'd mod you up if I have the privs. These guys are getting clobbered by voip and seem to be doing nothing about it. Lower prices. Give me voice mailboxes. Give me free caller id. Instead of buying AT&T spend the money and run fiber to homes. Provide tv services.
"In my mind, the concept of marriage is a religious issue"
Great, then YOUR church can refuse to perform gay marriages. Uh, what about all of us athiest that were married in civil ceremonies (to people of the opposite gender)?
"Marriage, would be a separate issue, and not necessarily require a civil union. It would be a "legal" contract"
Bzzt, sorry, wrong answer. Since we have separation of church and state, we would have to revoke all the current laws that affect married people too. Under your proposal, being "married" would mean nothing under the law - only in YOUR church would it have meaning. Which is fine. Don't impose your religion on the rest of us, please.
I don't think you've really thought out the consequences and implications of your proposals...
Good thing you can get them from Netflix... the price for the boxed set (per season) is $130! Most TV series boxed DVD sets go for about $50-$70. Farscape is really good, but that's an outrageous price...
From the eweek article:
"A coordinated online strike against Internet servers by terrorists, dubbed "elec
tronic jihad," may or may not strike this week, security experts said."
In related news, the earth may or may not fall into the sun this week.
Another quote from the eweek article:
"For example, a DDoS attack in June against Akamai Technologies Inc. slowed traff
ic across the Internet for several hours. And in July, DoubleClick Inc.'s DNS (d
omain name system) was attacked and unable to serve ads for a similar time frame."
OMFG! The internet might slow down!1!1!
nice to see slashdot stories have sunk to the level of the National Enquirer and the Weekly World News.
Too bad e-bay won't take the time to publish SPF records (spf.pobox.com) or microsoft "caller ID" records. It would probabaly take them less than a minute...
I'm not sure why any sane person would switch to oracle, especially if they were concerned with cost. Oracle is an administrative nightmare. IMHO would be much better to switch to Sybase (also runs on linux)...
I like the fact that Thunderbird has spam filtering built in. However I have multiple e-mail accounts and it seems like there's no way to have all new messages go into a single folder (like Evolution)? Bummer that Evolution doesn't have built-in spam filtering, and doesn't run on windows...
Has anyone checked out the price of sun hardware on sun's website recently? How come the E25k is still selling for 3.2 million dollars?!? Even their low end boxes like the sunblad 1500 are selling for $3000. Hellooooo?!?
I agree, SPF isn't perfect. I think the "wrong solution" is a bit harsh. Have you heard of anyone publishing SPF records being joe jobbed? Did the viruses you recieved come from the domain they claimed to have come from, or was the domain name forged? And do you have a better solution to domain name forgeries? (IE: do you think yahoo's domain keys is superior?)
Of course you and/or your ISP are/is publishing SPF records to prevent people from forging mail from your domain, right? (spf.pobox.com) Yeah, yeah, it's still in the early adopter phase, but it's got some momentum...
Well I'm really glad they're doing something - It's been months since CAN-SPAM was passed into law and I was beginning to wonder if it would ever be enforced. Good luck FBI guys!
You're assuming that the spam laws we have are going to be enforced. I don't see that happening - I still get dozens of spams a day that don't comply with the CAN-SPAM act. I usually forward 'em with full headers to uce@ftc.gov... I've only heard of a handful of lawsuits..?
I don't have Vonage yet - just learned about it yesterday from some co-workers (who love it).
Needless to say, I'll be getting it soon and ditching my regular phone service. Great features and great price. If the regular phone companies wanted to compete, they should be offering free caller ID, free voicemail (similar to above), and detailed online billing and reporting of incoming & outgoing calls. Really, how hard would it be to add these features to a regular phone service? There's been zero innovation in POTS (well, callerID, but they charge extra for that).
SPF, domainkeys, etc, etc seems to fit well with a whitelist or challenge response system in that they prevent domain name forgeries/Joe Jobs. Other missing (but presumably easily fixed) for universal C/R are standard challenges, and modifying mailing list software to not forward challenges to everyone on the list. Oh, I'm probably missing some other things, but I ran C/R client for a while and when configured correctly it worked VERY well.
Personally, I can't believe paypal, ebay, citibank, etc haven't implemented SPF yet to help prevent all those dasm phishing scams (IE: "we need to verify your account info. Please send us your usename and password...")
irate is a GREAT idea, but IMHO the software isn't quite there yet... please give 'em a hand if you're a programmer (I think it's java-based, if I recall correctly).
Yeah, and now I buy a lot of non-mainstream music online, such as Marc Pattison (from zonkmusic.com) and The Kicks (from cdbaby).
Radio is pretty much useless nowadays. I find new stuff by talking to a lot of people, scouring online websites, etc, etc... it's a lot of work. I wish irate radio worked a bit better (please, if you're a developer consider lending your skills to this potentially great project).
OK, you beat this one. I'm using a different system. And my friends are using yet another C/R system. And my system poses questions like:
what's thr33 plu$ 2?
Oh yeah, and you have to pay somebody to write the program to crack these C/R's, you have to have a valid domain name, working system to receive my challenge mails, cpu power to do the OCR, possibly pay for the bandwidth to download a boatload of graphics. Pretty soon it becomes un-economical to spam.
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Start switching company computers linux and/or OSS? (hey, what did you expect, this is slashdot after all).
IMHO this is a pretty short-sighted ruling. If I were google, I'd halt business in France, and possibly block access to google from known French ip address blocks. That ought to annoy enough people in France so they get the French court system to reverse it's ruling.
How about "lying"?
I'd mod you up if I have the privs. These guys are getting clobbered by voip and seem to be doing nothing about it. Lower prices. Give me voice mailboxes. Give me free caller id. Instead of buying AT&T spend the money and run fiber to homes. Provide tv services.
It's tough being #11, isn't it?
"In my mind, the concept of marriage is a religious issue" Great, then YOUR church can refuse to perform gay marriages. Uh, what about all of us athiest that were married in civil ceremonies (to people of the opposite gender)? "Marriage, would be a separate issue, and not necessarily require a civil union. It would be a "legal" contract" Bzzt, sorry, wrong answer. Since we have separation of church and state, we would have to revoke all the current laws that affect married people too. Under your proposal, being "married" would mean nothing under the law - only in YOUR church would it have meaning. Which is fine. Don't impose your religion on the rest of us, please. I don't think you've really thought out the consequences and implications of your proposals...
Good thing you can get them from Netflix... the price for the boxed set (per season) is $130! Most TV series boxed DVD sets go for about $50-$70. Farscape is really good, but that's an outrageous price...
From the eweek article: "A coordinated online strike against Internet servers by terrorists, dubbed "elec tronic jihad," may or may not strike this week, security experts said." In related news, the earth may or may not fall into the sun this week. Another quote from the eweek article: "For example, a DDoS attack in June against Akamai Technologies Inc. slowed traff ic across the Internet for several hours. And in July, DoubleClick Inc.'s DNS (d omain name system) was attacked and unable to serve ads for a similar time frame." OMFG! The internet might slow down!1!1! nice to see slashdot stories have sunk to the level of the National Enquirer and the Weekly World News.
Too bad e-bay won't take the time to publish SPF records (spf.pobox.com) or microsoft "caller ID" records. It would probabaly take them less than a minute...
... ebay.com, which appears not to be publishing spf or CallerID/SenderID secords. Way to go Ebay.
I'm not sure why any sane person would switch to oracle, especially if they were concerned with cost. Oracle is an administrative nightmare. IMHO would be much better to switch to Sybase (also runs on linux)...
I'm surprised greylisting hasn't become more widely used... I've not used it personally, but it sounds effective & fairly benign for non-spam mails.
Agreed. It's really a great tool, when it's properly configured.
I like the fact that Thunderbird has spam filtering built in. However I have multiple e-mail accounts and it seems like there's no way to have all new messages go into a single folder (like Evolution)? Bummer that Evolution doesn't have built-in spam filtering, and doesn't run on windows...
Has anyone checked out the price of sun hardware on sun's website recently? How come the E25k is still selling for 3.2 million dollars?!? Even their low end boxes like the sunblad 1500 are selling for $3000. Hellooooo?!?
It looks like microsoft isn't even publishing records for their own domains (microsoft.com, msn.com, hotmail.com)..?
I agree, SPF isn't perfect. I think the "wrong solution" is a bit harsh. Have you heard of anyone publishing SPF records being joe jobbed? Did the viruses you recieved come from the domain they claimed to have come from, or was the domain name forged? And do you have a better solution to domain name forgeries? (IE: do you think yahoo's domain keys is superior?)
Of course you and/or your ISP are/is publishing SPF records to prevent people from forging mail from your domain, right? (spf.pobox.com) Yeah, yeah, it's still in the early adopter phase, but it's got some momentum...
Well I'm really glad they're doing something - It's been months since CAN-SPAM was passed into law and I was beginning to wonder if it would ever be enforced. Good luck FBI guys!
You're assuming that the spam laws we have are going to be enforced. I don't see that happening - I still get dozens of spams a day that don't comply with the CAN-SPAM act. I usually forward 'em with full headers to uce@ftc.gov... I've only heard of a handful of lawsuits..?
I don't have Vonage yet - just learned about it yesterday from some co-workers (who love it). Needless to say, I'll be getting it soon and ditching my regular phone service. Great features and great price. If the regular phone companies wanted to compete, they should be offering free caller ID, free voicemail (similar to above), and detailed online billing and reporting of incoming & outgoing calls. Really, how hard would it be to add these features to a regular phone service? There's been zero innovation in POTS (well, callerID, but they charge extra for that).
SPF, domainkeys, etc, etc seems to fit well with a whitelist or challenge response system in that they prevent domain name forgeries/Joe Jobs. Other missing (but presumably easily fixed) for universal C/R are standard challenges, and modifying mailing list software to not forward challenges to everyone on the list. Oh, I'm probably missing some other things, but I ran C/R client for a while and when configured correctly it worked VERY well. Personally, I can't believe paypal, ebay, citibank, etc haven't implemented SPF yet to help prevent all those dasm phishing scams (IE: "we need to verify your account info. Please send us your usename and password...")
irate is a GREAT idea, but IMHO the software isn't quite there yet... please give 'em a hand if you're a programmer (I think it's java-based, if I recall correctly).
Yeah, and now I buy a lot of non-mainstream music online, such as Marc Pattison (from zonkmusic.com) and The Kicks (from cdbaby). Radio is pretty much useless nowadays. I find new stuff by talking to a lot of people, scouring online websites, etc, etc... it's a lot of work. I wish irate radio worked a bit better (please, if you're a developer consider lending your skills to this potentially great project).
OK, you beat this one. I'm using a different system. And my friends are using yet another C/R system. And my system poses questions like: what's thr33 plu$ 2? Oh yeah, and you have to pay somebody to write the program to crack these C/R's, you have to have a valid domain name, working system to receive my challenge mails, cpu power to do the OCR, possibly pay for the bandwidth to download a boatload of graphics. Pretty soon it becomes un-economical to spam.