Leave it up to the MPAA to go after a grandfather. Where is the accountability for this group? Who do we direct our hatred at?
Let's give the fuckers a name, and a face. No more of this MPAA, let people know who is behind it, which artists are in cahoots with this. Then we'll see how much we can really cost the industry.
I am glad that Google is going to help out openoffice. I just installed OO2, and, although impressive, lacks the polish of a professional application. Hopefully Google can bring its minimalistic design to the codebase.
Check out Knowledge Tree. They have a fairly polished webdav-based DMS, and are going to write a MS plugin for it as well (Plugin not open source). It has LDAP integration, and versioning. I plan to install it and goof around once I get my website back up and running, and get a couple of spare computers to hook everything up on.
Hopefully, I'm looking to get a Hula, Knowledge Tree, Fedora Directory, (I hate OpenLDAP, and I don't want to pay for Novell's) server, with pGina for Windows client authentication. I haven't tried OpenOffice with a WebDav server backend, but if that worked with revisioning, you have all the parts for a completely open-source server/infrastructure that meets the requirements that I mentioned. I just don't know if I'm going to have time to ever put it together, and some projects aren't mature enough to completely replace their MS counterparts. Hula especially, as right now it has only limited client support for all the applications, but it supports LDAP, and it's not a bunch of recycled parts with no management parts like Kolab. They should rename that project Kobble. But hopefully soon, all the parts will be production ready.
Last I checked, only the core DS is open sourced. Fedora and Red Hat are in the process of scrubbing the rest of it. Last I heard, it was the admin tools that are left. That's a big part of it for the SME.
Novell is very pricey for the SME business. They are a large installation company, or a second step company. No manager that is used to windows is going to bet the farm on Novell right out of the gate. They need an open source package to try out first. Let them grow into a Novell.
As for your last statement, that's exactly what I'm saying. It can be done, but you need somebody to do it. a lot of these companies don't have tech guys, they have Bob in accounting that's pretty good with computers. If there was a distro out there that you could drop in, it was configured as a server, with file store, e-mail, calendar, document store, and it was reasonably easy to add new users, add e-mail addresses, and find and save documents easily, then business would snap it up.
Actually there is, and it's called Microsoft Small Business Server. Make it for Linux, and make it free. Then extend it.
Hurry up and release the Netscape-LDAP 100% free and unencumbered. Pick an open project for calendaring/mail and make Outlook work with it. Create better tools for identity management.
The problem with people not embracing open source is not with open source, its that nobody knows what they're looking for with open source. Focus on what small business needs, and what open source can offer. Create small, turn-key packages. Create an LDAP authentication server. Create an LDAP mail server that operates as a drop-in replacement that works with the identity server. Create a Document Management System that works with OpenOffice, so that you have it part of the file-save dialog. Give business the tools it needs to work, and work efficiently!
The tools are better. Everyone keeps saying that they are. The design is sound, the pieces are there, but nobody has stepped up to the plate and sewn it all together. Stop the development of new tools. Take the tools that we have already and put them together. Industry needs more than Google and a Howto posted on an undergrads website.
Everybody knows that there are a million ways to authenticate a bunch of workstations to one or more server. LDAP, LDAP and Kerberos. GSSAPI, Radius, whatever, but for the love of all things sane and holy, pick one! Pick one, and build the turnkey solution to do it./phew.
The point that I was making, was that there wasn't a make or break software package that made me choose linux over windows. Everything that I would use on wondows, I have a comparable item on linux. The difference is that Microsoft's operating system makes it much easier to hide exactly what is going on. I have very little control over what is going on with the system. There really isn't a way for me to just sit down without any third party tools and tell you exactly what is going on. Linux' coreutils package gives me that. I trust my linux box. I don't trust my MS box.
I switched just for the operating system. I was tire of not knowing what was going on with my windows box. Things would be running in the background that I had no idea what they were, and it takes a bunch of third party tools to figure it out. There was no easy way to tell exactly what was going on with my system. I would see a lot of rundll's a lot of svchosts, and various other processes that are part of the operating system, but aren't invoked by the operating system itself. Windows has a way of hiding what is going on inside. I didn't like that. I didn't want to have to buy a bunch of tools to tear down my computer just to see what was happening. I also didn't like the registry. Some things are fairly easy to distinguish what they are, but other things are just plain cryptic. And if you decide to remove the wrong thing, you might as well just re-install. So I did switch because of the core os. The applications that run on Linux are a bonus.
No, but they could have asked for the Mexican authorities to pick him up. A little diplomacy goes a long way, and it wouldn't be the first time that someone got picked up on trumped up charges in Mexico.
Even if they write into the standard that there can be absolutely no modification to the underlying format, it doesn't matter. Microsoft will just support the open document format and the extensions. Even if it's extended, it would still be 100% compliant, in the same manner in which Kerberos was. One way support. This is how the embrace and extend works. It should be called copy and corrupt.
Microsoft is really good at killing competition by copying what they do, then adding extra bells and whistles. They can open up competitors documents, but the competitors can't open up theirs.
Sorry about the formatting, somebody doesn't like me in Slash-management and has bitch-slapped me or something. I can only post through ssh and lynx right now until they turn their teeth on the GNAA or something.
Another benefit for Microsoft is that if anyone follows suit and switches to ODF, MS will support it. Which means SHarepoint will support it, which means that the rest of the products may support it. But if you want to do any of the real fancy stuff, save your files as.doc's and then you can really harness the power of the Microsoft backend servers. It's the same trick that they pulled with Services for Unix. They don't make the products so that they integrate nicely both ways. They make it one way integration, as a stepping stone until you upgrade the rest of your machines to fit into the business culture.
Open Documents and MS version of XML are really about one thing: Data Mining. Why should you have to write a document, then a spreadsheet, then combine the two, when you can just specify a data source in the document in the first place. Then, take that data, and using the magic of XML, put it on the web. Take the data from the web, put it on your phone. Change it on your phone, and the document updates itself.
XML is really only a middleware. The magic happens behind the scenes. Think of XML as a language, like english. You might speak German, Bob from Accounting might speak Arabic, and Jonie from HR might speak Swahili. You can't get anything done, unless two of you learn the other ones language, or you all start speaking english. Except in this case, English is well documented, carefully laid out, and makes sense. Microsoft's Version would be more like Egyptian heiroglyphics, but we don't have a Rosetta stone (yet).
The big question is who is going to provide the common language. Microsoft wants it to be them, so everyone speaks Microsoft, or more to the point, only Microsoftians can be in on the conversation. Open Document Format means that everyone can learn, and that's all it takes.
I hate to reply to my own post, but look what the top poll choice is on the Slashpoll. I read EULAs: with my lawyer with deep suspicion and paranoia with due care and attention with my scroll wheel with CowboyNeal I Agree
Well it's better than facing them all one at a time.
If I were apple, I'd give them a $10 credit on the newly released Apple branded iPod nano carrying case, and a complementary download of Stevie Wonder's "My Eyes Don't Cry".
Although I think that PHP has made large strides in the web market, I'm hoping to see the day when there'll be kde and gtk bindings, as well as native compiled code.
This would be perfect for my office. In fact the only thing better would be if I could get virtual employees. Causing problems? No problem, just load another secretary image.
We trust that the Certification Authorities would not sign that certificate. That's what you pay them for. Trust. Ideally, you would have to steal the cert from the banks computers, and then the CA would revoke it once someone found out.
But that's ideally. And that's why I don't trust SSL certs.
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Leave it up to the MPAA to go after a grandfather. Where is the accountability for this group? Who do we direct our hatred at?
Let's give the fuckers a name, and a face. No more of this MPAA, let people know who is behind it, which artists are in cahoots with this. Then we'll see how much we can really cost the industry.
Naw, that's Electronic Arts.
I am glad that Google is going to help out openoffice. I just installed OO2, and, although impressive, lacks the polish of a professional application. Hopefully Google can bring its minimalistic design to the codebase.
And all the good parts of it before you even click the download button.
Check out Knowledge Tree. They have a fairly polished webdav-based DMS, and are going to write a MS plugin for it as well (Plugin not open source). It has LDAP integration, and versioning. I plan to install it and goof around once I get my website back up and running, and get a couple of spare computers to hook everything up on.
Hopefully, I'm looking to get a Hula, Knowledge Tree, Fedora Directory, (I hate OpenLDAP, and I don't want to pay for Novell's) server, with pGina for Windows client authentication. I haven't tried OpenOffice with a WebDav server backend, but if that worked with revisioning, you have all the parts for a completely open-source server/infrastructure that meets the requirements that I mentioned. I just don't know if I'm going to have time to ever put it together, and some projects aren't mature enough to completely replace their MS counterparts. Hula especially, as right now it has only limited client support for all the applications, but it supports LDAP, and it's not a bunch of recycled parts with no management parts like Kolab. They should rename that project Kobble. But hopefully soon, all the parts will be production ready.
Man do I go off topic.
Last I checked, only the core DS is open sourced. Fedora and Red Hat are in the process of scrubbing the rest of it. Last I heard, it was the admin tools that are left. That's a big part of it for the SME.
Novell is very pricey for the SME business. They are a large installation company, or a second step company. No manager that is used to windows is going to bet the farm on Novell right out of the gate. They need an open source package to try out first. Let them grow into a Novell.
As for your last statement, that's exactly what I'm saying. It can be done, but you need somebody to do it. a lot of these companies don't have tech guys, they have Bob in accounting that's pretty good with computers. If there was a distro out there that you could drop in, it was configured as a server, with file store, e-mail, calendar, document store, and it was reasonably easy to add new users, add e-mail addresses, and find and save documents easily, then business would snap it up.
Actually there is, and it's called Microsoft Small Business Server. Make it for Linux, and make it free. Then extend it.
Hurry up and release the Netscape-LDAP 100% free and unencumbered.
/phew.
Pick an open project for calendaring/mail and make Outlook work with it.
Create better tools for identity management.
The problem with people not embracing open source is not with open source, its that nobody knows what they're looking for with open source. Focus on what small business needs, and what open source can offer. Create small, turn-key packages. Create an LDAP authentication server. Create an LDAP mail server that operates as a drop-in replacement that works with the identity server. Create a Document Management System that works with OpenOffice, so that you have it part of the file-save dialog. Give business the tools it needs to work, and work efficiently!
The tools are better. Everyone keeps saying that they are. The design is sound, the pieces are there, but nobody has stepped up to the plate and sewn it all together. Stop the development of new tools. Take the tools that we have already and put them together. Industry needs more than Google and a Howto posted on an undergrads website.
Everybody knows that there are a million ways to authenticate a bunch of workstations to one or more server. LDAP, LDAP and Kerberos. GSSAPI, Radius, whatever, but for the love of all things sane and holy, pick one! Pick one, and build the turnkey solution to do it.
The first hit is always free.
The point that I was making, was that there wasn't a make or break software package that made me choose linux over windows. Everything that I would use on wondows, I have a comparable item on linux. The difference is that Microsoft's operating system makes it much easier to hide exactly what is going on. I have very little control over what is going on with the system. There really isn't a way for me to just sit down without any third party tools and tell you exactly what is going on. Linux' coreutils package gives me that. I trust my linux box. I don't trust my MS box.
Just release a version with no North or South Korea, just one big People's Republic of Korea.
They'll take the hint.
Man, browsing Slashdot with lynx sucks. Taco, unban me please.
I switched just for the operating system. I was tire of not knowing what was going on with my windows box. Things would be running in the background that I had no idea what they were, and it takes a bunch of third party tools to figure it out. There was no easy way to tell exactly what was going on with my system. I would see a lot of rundll's a lot of svchosts, and various other processes that are part of the operating system, but aren't invoked by the operating system itself.
Windows has a way of hiding what is going on inside. I didn't like that. I didn't want to have to buy a bunch of tools to tear down my computer just to see what was happening. I also didn't like the registry. Some things are fairly easy to distinguish what they are, but other things are just plain cryptic. And if you decide to remove the wrong thing, you might as well just re-install.
So I did switch because of the core os. The applications that run on Linux are a bonus.
No, but they could have asked for the Mexican authorities to pick him up. A little diplomacy goes a long way, and it wouldn't be the first time that someone got picked up on trumped up charges in Mexico.
Hey Taco, can I have the IP Ban lifted yet?
He was living in a MANSION in mexico. How hard did they even look for this guy.
Even if they write into the standard that there can be absolutely no modification to the underlying format, it doesn't matter. Microsoft will just support the open document format and the extensions. Even if it's extended, it would still be 100% compliant, in the same manner in which Kerberos was. One way support. This is how the embrace and extend works. It should be called copy and corrupt.
Microsoft is really good at killing competition by copying what they do, then adding extra bells and whistles. They can open up competitors documents, but the competitors can't open up theirs.
Sorry about the formatting, somebody doesn't like me in Slash-management and has bitch-slapped me or something. I can only post through ssh and lynx right now until they turn their teeth on the GNAA or something.
Another benefit for Microsoft is that if anyone follows suit and switches to ODF, MS will support it. Which means SHarepoint will support it, which means that the rest of the products may support it. .doc's and then you can really harness the power of the Microsoft backend servers. It's the same trick that they pulled with Services for Unix. They don't make the products so that they integrate nicely both ways. They make it one way integration, as a stepping stone until you upgrade the rest of your machines to fit into the business culture.
But if you want to do any of the real fancy stuff, save your files as
There it is!
Open Documents and MS version of XML are really about one thing: Data Mining. Why should you have to write a document, then a spreadsheet, then combine the two, when you can just specify a data source in the document in the first place. Then, take that data, and using the magic of XML, put it on the web. Take the data from the web, put it on your phone. Change it on your phone, and the document updates itself.
XML is really only a middleware. The magic happens behind the scenes. Think of XML as a language, like english. You might speak German, Bob from Accounting might speak Arabic, and Jonie from HR might speak Swahili. You can't get anything done, unless two of you learn the other ones language, or you all start speaking english. Except in this case, English is well documented, carefully laid out, and makes sense. Microsoft's Version would be more like Egyptian heiroglyphics, but we don't have a Rosetta stone (yet).
The big question is who is going to provide the common language. Microsoft wants it to be them, so everyone speaks Microsoft, or more to the point, only Microsoftians can be in on the conversation. Open Document Format means that everyone can learn, and that's all it takes.
I hate to reply to my own post, but look what the top poll choice is on the Slashpoll.
I read EULAs:
with my lawyer
with deep suspicion and paranoia
with due care and attention
with my scroll wheel
with CowboyNeal
I Agree
Well it's better than facing them all one at a time.
If I were apple, I'd give them a $10 credit on the newly released Apple branded iPod nano carrying case, and a complementary download of Stevie Wonder's "My Eyes Don't Cry".
I think that there's a much larger problem then tech companies facing 42.
Okay, I missed that one. There goes my weekend.
Although I think that PHP has made large strides in the web market, I'm hoping to see the day when there'll be kde and gtk bindings, as well as native compiled code.
This would be perfect for my office. In fact the only thing better would be if I could get virtual employees. Causing problems? No problem, just load another secretary image.
Did you have to run around the house looking for like 50 disks to install all the packages?
I swear I burned out three floppy drives getting Slackware on my 386.
We trust that the Certification Authorities would not sign that certificate. That's what you pay them for. Trust. Ideally, you would have to steal the cert from the banks computers, and then the CA would revoke it once someone found out.
But that's ideally. And that's why I don't trust SSL certs.
Glad to see that you're going to be a cutting edge counterfitter.