I'm not at all saying the cracker was right to break into NASA's systems. What I am saying is NASA has a responsibility to keep its systems secure, and spend the required $$$ to do so, and they failed.
I/O, This is true, but you must remember at many educational and scientific institutions there are a lot of undocumented machines that sit back in the corners and closets that are not properly patched. This is because the institution does not want to seem fashist about their "computer policies" that could hamper research.
That they failed does not give them the right to charge that expense to the next person to walk through the door.
Pass the expense of patching on to whom? I'm afraid I am not following your logic. (As you know, I am a little dense at times;) )Can you elaborate?
My point is that any nuclear attack using missiles is suicidal, and your country is going to shoot back, quite possibly before the first missiles hit.
Face it, no-one is going to launch missiles at you. No country would protect and train people that would fly planes into our buildings either? Right? Afghanistan did.
Most successful eh? I guess all of those countries with lower unemployment rates, longer life expectancies, and shorter work weeks are just green with envy.
Name five countries with a lower unemployment rate than the US.
With your second comment you answer yourself the question why the USA are hated in many parts of the world. Read it again and then try to imagine how the people in Iraq think about you
I really don't care if some parts of the world hate us. The Islamic Fascists need to be stopped.
As an American, I can see being against the Iraq war. It was a waste of blood and money for no real strategic gain.
I disagree. Aside from the "bad intel" that got us there. Here is what we now have....
1) A base of operations to attack any Middle East state that decide to assist in backing Jihadists that wish America harm. (Like Afghanistan did.)There is no need to ask Europe if we can fly over anymore.
2) We are drawing into Iraq any Jihadist that want to kill Americans. It's better to fight them in Iraq than Manhattan.
3) We let North Korea take a good close look at what we can do with a few troops in a short period of time.
As a result, REAL alternatives like PostgreSQL were just ignored when they came on the scene. After all, you have to perform *gasp* maintenance on Postgres! *sigh*
When PostreSQL came on the scene I attempted to use it, but there was little in the way of documentation. I went the MySQL route for my little database projects because it had better docs at the time. I never decided MySQL was "1337" and that all other databases were "evil".
It had good docs, was cheap, and was good enough to get the job done.
MySQL, if you can read this, your using it right now.
Next time check your facts before you spout off-- both of you.
Looks like you should do so yourself. There was no such thing as Wi-Fi in 1997. There was 802.11, but Wi-Fi is a certification that certifies that products from different vendors interoperate.
Aspen Colorado had the first city-wide WiFi Network running in 1997. It was a private network built by Sun Microsystems. It was running 802.11 (not a/b/g) at 2Mbps.
WiFi didn't exist in 1997. WiFi is a set of standards that allow WiFi compliant devices to interoperate.
I was assuming it was more narrow band interference. But given that several classes of devices are affected, it must be wider.
Well, that's the thing. See, the front end in the radios used for the keyless entry systems are rather wide. A strong signal many 10s of MHz away could still cause front end overload.
The other thing this article seems to be is heavy into blaming the military. How about blaming the car manufacturers for producing an unreliable technology with no backups and depending on the military to only occasionally encroach on these frequencies?
[Keyless entry should] Use spread-spectrum at low power or frequency hopping to get around this.
The problem, I would be willing to bet, is the keyless entry systems are having front end overload. This means that the radar systems used by the military are producing so much RF, within the band pass of the receiver the keyless entry systems use, it is causing those amplifier stages to become saturated.
Using SS or frequency hopping is not going to mitigate the interference if front end overload is the problem.
You are also overlooking the large push to move all those emergency services over to different systems that are much more resistant to interference (digital and encrypted links, look at the ads in mags targeting those useres)
The reason these frequencies are used is because of ionospheric propagation. (Over the horizon propagation.) You can use digital and encrypted links via ionosphere, but to use another part of the spectrum requires infrastructure that can fail.
The HF spectrum is a natural resource. We should not pollute it simply because it can be used to deliver broadband internet access.
BPL= Broadband over Power Lines...
Which all users of RF technology of any kind consider a boogyman unknown because power lines weren't meant to carry any sort of signaling at all and therefore are completely unshielded. It's just plain a theoretical nightmare if this technology were to be widely deployed... nobody's quite sure how bad the problems for other applications would be.
This may be a nothingness, or it may be the death of ham radio depending on who you listen to.
According to the laws of physics, it will cause problems for all users of the HF spectrum.
KE4PJW
What assertion? I'm very confused. Did you mean to quote a different sentence? The one you quoted is one where I was questioning a claim that Brown made and not making any assertion.
Doh! My bad. Sorry bout that. I was a little pissed off about that assertion.
This isn't just a legal issue; in order to gain significant market share, earn the trust of potential users, and develop with a strong backbone in a reliable direction, Linux must be accountable.
Linux is accountable. Linux has a copyright holder, his name is Linus Torvalds. The various parts of the Linux kernel subsystems have copyright holders as well. There are too many to list.
This whole, "Linux has no accountability" thing is a SCOism.
why would software under "true open source" licenses like BSD be more immune to the legal problems of including stolen proprietary code than GPL'd code would?
It's in no way "more immune". Please, back up that accertion with some type of argument. BTW: GPL code is "true open source", because YOU GET THE SOURCE and DISTRIBUTION RIGHTS.
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Al-Qaida is a multi-national support group which funds and orchestrates the activities of Islamic militants worldwide. It grew out of the Afghan war against the Soviets, and its core members consist of Afghan war veterans from all over the Muslim world. Al-Qaida was established around 1988 by the Saudi militant Osama bin Ladin. Based in of Afghanistan, bin Ladin uses an extensive international network to maintain a loose connection between Muslim extremists in diverse countries.
The Taliban were agents of al Qaeda. They were an intregal part of al Qaeda's infrastructure.
I'm not at all saying the cracker was right to break into NASA's systems. What I am saying is NASA has a responsibility to keep its systems secure, and spend the required $$$ to do so, and they failed.
;) )Can you elaborate?
I/O, This is true, but you must remember at many educational and scientific institutions there are a lot of undocumented machines that sit back in the corners and closets that are not properly patched. This is because the institution does not want to seem fashist about their "computer policies" that could hamper research.
That they failed does not give them the right to charge that expense to the next person to walk through the door.
Pass the expense of patching on to whom? I'm afraid I am not following your logic. (As you know, I am a little dense at times
The Taliban allowed terrorist organizations to run training camps in their territory and, from 1994 to at least 2001, provided refuge for Osama bin Laden and his al-Qaeda organization. The relationship between the Taliban and bin Laden is close, even familial--bin Laden fought with the mujahideen, has financed the Taliban, and has reportedly married one of his daughters to Mullah Muhammad Omar. The United Nations Security Council passed two resolutions, UNSCR 1267 (1999) and 1333 (2000), demanding that the Taliban cease their support for terrorism and hand over bin Laden for trial.
My point is that any nuclear attack using missiles is suicidal, and your country is going to shoot back, quite possibly before the first missiles hit.
Face it, no-one is going to launch missiles at you.
No country would protect and train people that would fly planes into our buildings either? Right? Afghanistan did.
How exactly is Google Toolbar spyware? I have never heard this suggested before.
Most successful eh? I guess all of those countries with lower unemployment rates, longer life expectancies, and shorter work weeks are just green with envy.
Name five countries with a lower unemployment rate than the US.
With your second comment you answer yourself the question why the USA are hated in many parts of the world. Read it again and then try to imagine how the people in Iraq think about you
I really don't care if some parts of the world hate us. The Islamic Fascists need to be stopped.
As an American, I can see being against the Iraq war. It was a waste of blood and money for no real strategic gain.
I disagree. Aside from the "bad intel" that got us there. Here is what we now have....
1) A base of operations to attack any Middle East state that decide to assist in backing Jihadists that wish America harm. (Like Afghanistan did.)There is no need to ask Europe if we can fly over anymore.
2) We are drawing into Iraq any Jihadist that want to kill Americans. It's better to fight them in Iraq than Manhattan.
3) We let North Korea take a good close look at what we can do with a few troops in a short period of time.
As a result, REAL alternatives like PostgreSQL were just ignored when they came on the scene. After all, you have to perform *gasp* maintenance on Postgres! *sigh*
When PostreSQL came on the scene I attempted to use it, but there was little in the way of documentation. I went the MySQL route for my little database projects because it had better docs at the time. I never decided MySQL was "1337" and that all other databases were "evil".
It had good docs, was cheap, and was good enough to get the job done.
MySQL, if you can read this, your using it right now.
What is the standard for "an informed public"?
When you agree with me, of course.
He says Mr. Sinus' lean toward adult-type humor goes against the spirit of MST3K.
Are you kidding me? Watching MST3K is where I learned what "Speedballing" was!
Well, in fact it was 1999, but WiFi did exist in 1997, which is when the 802.11 spec was released.
The Wi-Fi Alliance is a nonprofit international association formed in 1999 to certify interoperability of wireless Local Area Network products based on IEEE 802.11 specification.
Next time check your facts before you spout off-- both of you.
Looks like you should do so yourself. There was no such thing as Wi-Fi in 1997. There was 802.11, but Wi-Fi is a certification that certifies that products from different vendors interoperate.
Aspen Colorado had the first city-wide WiFi Network running in 1997. It was a private network built by Sun Microsystems. It was running 802.11 (not a/b/g) at 2Mbps.
WiFi didn't exist in 1997. WiFi is a set of standards that allow WiFi compliant devices to interoperate.
... while dropping the Cosby kids off at the pool... in the Beer Sellar's pisser on 2nd Ave in Nashville, Tn
I was assuming it was more narrow band interference. But given that several classes of devices are affected, it must be wider.
Well, that's the thing. See, the front end in the radios used for the keyless entry systems are rather wide. A strong signal many 10s of MHz away could still cause front end overload.
The other thing this article seems to be is heavy into blaming the military. How about blaming the car manufacturers for producing an unreliable technology with no backups and depending on the military to only occasionally encroach on these frequencies?
I agree 100%
[Keyless entry should] Use spread-spectrum at low power or frequency hopping to get around this.
The problem, I would be willing to bet, is the keyless entry systems are having front end overload. This means that the radar systems used by the military are producing so much RF, within the band pass of the receiver the keyless entry systems use, it is causing those amplifier stages to become saturated.
Using SS or frequency hopping is not going to mitigate the interference if front end overload is the problem.
It has been reported by Arron Brown on CNN that the Bin Ladens flew out after flights had resumed as well.
And according to the video that was posted to /. about a week or two ago, BPL on harms communication when you are very near overhead powerlines.
:)
Don't forget the ones located in your walls and feed power to your radio equipment
You are also overlooking the large push to move all those emergency services over to different systems that are much more resistant to interference (digital and encrypted links, look at the ads in mags targeting those useres)
The reason these frequencies are used is because of ionospheric propagation. (Over the horizon propagation.) You can use digital and encrypted links via ionosphere, but to use another part of the spectrum requires infrastructure that can fail.
The HF spectrum is a natural resource. We should not pollute it simply because it can be used to deliver broadband internet access.
BPL= Broadband over Power Lines... Which all users of RF technology of any kind consider a boogyman unknown because power lines weren't meant to carry any sort of signaling at all and therefore are completely unshielded. It's just plain a theoretical nightmare if this technology were to be widely deployed... nobody's quite sure how bad the problems for other applications would be. This may be a nothingness, or it may be the death of ham radio depending on who you listen to.
According to the laws of physics, it will cause problems for all users of the HF spectrum. KE4PJW
What assertion? I'm very confused. Did you mean to quote a different sentence? The one you quoted is one where I was questioning a claim that Brown made and not making any assertion.
Doh! My bad. Sorry bout that. I was a little pissed off about that assertion.
Vonage VoIP box -> Linksys WET11 Bridge -> Netgear 802.11 Card on Linux workstation -> 128k ISDN Line.
Works just fine for me.
(No, I didn't RTFA, because it works for me)
This isn't just a legal issue; in order to gain significant market share, earn the trust of potential users, and develop with a strong backbone in a reliable direction, Linux must be accountable.
Linux is accountable. Linux has a copyright holder, his name is Linus Torvalds. The various parts of the Linux kernel subsystems have copyright holders as well. There are too many to list.
This whole, "Linux has no accountability" thing is a SCOism.
why would software under "true open source" licenses like BSD be more immune to the legal problems of including stolen proprietary code than GPL'd code would?
It's in no way "more immune". Please, back up that accertion with some type of argument. BTW: GPL code is "true open source", because YOU GET THE SOURCE and DISTRIBUTION RIGHTS.