I remember when I first saw (or should I say heard?) the intro to "Blood Money" by Psygnosis on my Amiga. It blew me away. And the opening to Shadow of the Beast II? Awesome.
No, I'm a real life gay man who was making fun of said homophobes. I am also very sorry that I did a bad job of it. My intention was certainly not to offend.
Troll -- A Troll is similar to Flamebait, but slightly more refined. This is a prank comment intended to provoke indignant (or just confused) responses. A Troll might mix up vital facts or otherwise distort reality, to make other readers react with helpful "corrections." Trolling is the online equivalent of intentionally dialing wrong numbers just to waste other people's time.
I'm sorry but I really don't think that either of my comments fit the description above. Mod this one a troll too if you want, but I really was just making a joke. I really am an Apple fan, I really am a gay man, and I really do think what Pudge did is commendable and a good plus for OS X. I'll shut up now.
Jeez... Who modded this a troll? Sorry if it came off that way, I am a big OS X fan (which anyone who bothered to check all my other posts before modding me a troll would have seen!), and was actually trying (perhaps badly) to make fun of all the Apple's are for Fags trolls. Oh, and I am a fag so I guess I should be able to make fag jokes if anyone should.
So really sorry if this came off as a troll, I really do think Pudge's success is laudable!
But AFAIK you still need an AOLIM account for chatting outside of your LAN (You can chat with anyone on your LAN through the magic of Rendezvous - which is really nice for a small business, free internal chat client) . However, you do get an AOLIM account if you subscribe to Apple's.mac service.
Outlook Express is hardly the greatest mail client. But it was pretty good at IMAP. On the other hand Outlook 2000/XP is kind of shitty at IMAP.
Of course IMAP is open, standards-based mail, so what the fuck does Bill care if it goes to hell. And I'm supposed to use what in exchange, MSN, Hotmail, or an Exchange server? Give me a fucking break!
And how easy is it going to be to move any of this "new breed" of mail accounts to another platform. It's probably going to suck. Oh well.
The thing that is missing from BSD books (and every OS X book I've seen) is better information on managing OS X server, especially NetInfo. Apple has some OK docs, but they tend to be a little vague and absent of clear examples.
I would buy (even a pretty expensive, like $99) book on managing OS X server if it handled OS X Server's management tools, how they affected the environment, why they do things the way they do. And good examples of setting up various Mac OS X networks, with lots of clear examples of settings on Server and clients would be super useful!!!
At least one scholar from Stanford thinks it's very likely that Mr. Bush's mispronunciation is an intentional attempt to seem like a "regular guy" to the American people.
Shout out to rlsnyder for laying the smack down on this being a seriously whack article!
I need to know where the approx. 16,000 folks they surveyed were located too! If they're all on the eastern seaboard or in southern California, what the hell does that tell me about the quality or lack thereof of each companies nationwide coverage. Nothing, that's what.
First you have MS. They hate open-source software, they want to kill Linux, they won't make any products for Linux.
Second, you have Apple. They like open-source, they use open-source, the need open-source. Without software like Apache, CUPS, GCC, Samba, etc. they're in trouble.
I think average users need a commercial OS and the installation ease and large support infrastructure that a commercial software company can provide. So I support Apple as you consumer OS provider because they NEED open-source, and so they're going to support it and expose people to it. And avoid Microsoft because they HATE open source and will do everything they can to belittle it, cripple it, and eventually destroy it.
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It's not necessarily a red herring. If the problem is that a large amount of water is evaporating, it wouldn't necessarily make it back into the watershed, but could be lost through airborne transmission.
It probably depends a lot on the air currents and geography of the region. But it's very surprising how much water can be moved through the air.
Irrigation can also move water from one watershed to another (it does not respect watershed boundaries like rivers tend to).
For a really interesting technical analysis on the Aral sea issue, check out this google cache of a paper by the Land and Water Development Division, Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations.
First, I think it really depends on how strong your skills are and what your background is. Always teach what you know.
Second, watch out for online games if you are the type of person who can be intimidated by a pushy fifteen-year-old. Inevitably one will show up and try to change your lab into his person UT200X fantasy world.
Third. I am a frothing at the mouth Mac zealot, so don't rule out the opportunity of putting a couple Macs in there. It's an easy and safe way to experiment in the *nix world.
Fourth. Concepts are REALLY important for beginning computer users. Try to talk about why folders are called folders and how they help organize the computer. What RAM and hard drives are and why they're different. Lots of people don't have these basic concepts down, and they can be really helpful to starting to understand why the computer works the way it does.
Fifth. Have a great time. I grew up in Iowa and Iowans are great folks. I'm sure your lab will be a big hit!
It sound's like what the poster wants is OS X. From the article:
It's worth noting that Apple, with its Unix-based Mac OS X, has already implemented a working solution to this problem -- OS X had no trouble browsing the office network and reading and writing files.
While it is a little sad that he doesn't realize that OS X provides this feature using...drum-roll...Samba!!
It is almost certainly a Samba configuration issue that is stopping the gentleman from connecting to his companies shared directories. But why should he care?
Personally, I think the loyal lovers o' linux need to resign themselves to the fact that a lot of company administrators do not have the skills and/or patience needed to deal with *nix configuration files, compiling apps, dealing with install inconsistencies because there's no package for the distro their using, etc.
Seriously. A lot of these people (especially in small and mid-sized businesses) are basically glorified power-users. They've never written an application. They never written a batch file or unix script. They've probably run some stuff on the command line, but only if it was really necessary, and probably typed everything in from a book/browser.
This isn't a dig at these people. Many of these environments don't need an expert sys-admin. If they had one he'd get bored off his skull and quit! If people really want to see *nix and open-source thrive, they need to get these chumps, er, folks using OS X.
Yes I know Apple is a evil closed-source company. But they use a lot of good open-source technology to make things happen. They just manage the process for the "typical end user". If you don't like how Samba is set up on OS X, change it! It isn't MS land where everything is locked away. But if your looking for a good basic setup that deals decently with most AD Networks, is pre-installed, is easily accessible through the GUI and functions reasonably with in said GUI's conventions. Wow! It's OS X.
And the above is true of a lot of *nix services. Apache, sendmail, etc.. Pre-installed, pre-configured, totally re-configurable if you want to. Just open up a nice window, maybe fill out some basic fields (what is you server name? what is your work group name? African or European?) and you're all set to go.
One other nicety of OS X is a real version of Office. Yeah, I know, horrible, evil, icky-poo. But another "great feature" of a lot of small to mid-sized business is the presence of a shrieking-harpy who has the ear of the person holding the pursestrings. Being able to shut them up by telling them they'll have a real, 100% sanctioned by MS version of Office is a great treat.
So my assignment for all you loyal lovers o' Linux is to go out and preach OS X to mid-sized companies. Doing so only helps Linux (just like helping Linux is great for OS X!) because it gets a linux friendly, open-sourced technology-laden OS in place, and is really easy for "power user" type admins to install and manage (making them look good).
You know it's funny. I don't think we have 3.5 million people building, and supporting cars. Of course they don't last sixty-seventy years (one hundred years...c'mon). But they take a pretty harsh beating compared to what happens to most peoples.
It's also interesting to note that it's still the heavy mechanical pieces that are likely to break or deteriorate (tires, transmission, etc.) not the complicated computer brain of the car. Does that mean that robo-fry cook can just get a new arm and go back to flipping burgers? Is the arm more or less expensive than a trip to Crap-County Medical Center for the meat-based employee? And rehab for the broken arm? And unemployment benefits? Also, are robo-eyes and ears less likely to break (less physical stress)? Just some thoughts.
I dunno about the ATM replacing the teller thing. I mostly go visit my bank because some of the tellers are f*cking hot (yeah I'm a loser). Now if they could have online banking with some integrated porn....
Why the fuck does TCO get totally lost in computer world?
Compared to MS: If you buy $800 eMacs and have about zero virus, e-mail bongo-bingo-webmonkey adware spazware crap to deal with you will have lower TCO.
Compared to anything: If you have PCs that easily see windows, apple, and unix file shares you will will have lower TCO.
Compare to Linux: If you have a mature, easy-to-use GUI, and an almost identical to what they've been using Office Suite you will have lower TCO
Finally in regards to some concerns I saw voiced about what if Apple shut down and all the OS/X stuff was obsolete and obsolescence in general:
some people worry that anything will be obsolete in about 90 days.
some people violently scream that the C64 is still a viable platform.
some people figure that even in the unlikely event that Apple decided to shut down today, you could still get support, parts, software, etc. of OS X for a good while. And that you could probably easily migrate from OS X to either back to MS (stay on the office track) or over to Linux start installing apps like open office on the OS X desktops, and then migrate chunks of users to Linux PCs. In fact, this might even ease the transition (and related support calls, user hand-holding etc) and lead to, dare I say it, lower TCO.
I'm in that last group.
I mean c'mon folks. I'm not saying OS X is the only answer, or is the greatest or whatever. But you don't have to treat it like it's some OS Leper either. It can be a great alternative in business environments. Really. No, Really. No, no, really...
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I remember when I first saw (or should I say heard?) the intro to "Blood Money" by Psygnosis on my Amiga. It blew me away. And the opening to Shadow of the Beast II? Awesome.
Plus the cool stuff happening over at Marathon Open source with Aleph One etc..
No, I'm a real life gay man who was making fun of said homophobes. I am also very sorry that I did a bad job of it. My intention was certainly not to offend.
From the Slashdot FAQ...
Troll -- A Troll is similar to Flamebait, but slightly more refined. This is a prank comment intended to provoke indignant (or just confused) responses. A Troll might mix up vital facts or otherwise distort reality, to make other readers react with helpful "corrections." Trolling is the online equivalent of intentionally dialing wrong numbers just to waste other people's time.
I'm sorry but I really don't think that either of my comments fit the description above. Mod this one a troll too if you want, but I really was just making a joke. I really am an Apple fan, I really am a gay man, and I really do think what Pudge did is commendable and a good plus for OS X. I'll shut up now.
I remember as a kid in the 70's all my friends calling me if they saw a film that was a turkey. How is texting any different?
The movie industry needs to stop making excuses and make some better movies instead.
Jeez... Who modded this a troll? Sorry if it came off that way, I am a big OS X fan (which anyone who bothered to check all my other posts before modding me a troll would have seen!), and was actually trying (perhaps badly) to make fun of all the Apple's are for Fags trolls. Oh, and I am a fag so I guess I should be able to make fag jokes if anyone should.
So really sorry if this came off as a troll, I really do think Pudge's success is laudable!
Lord Dallan,
Apple using fag and proud of it
But AFAIK you still need an AOLIM account for chatting outside of your LAN (You can chat with anyone on your LAN through the magic of Rendezvous - which is really nice for a small business, free internal chat client) . However, you do get an AOLIM account if you subscribe to Apple's .mac service.
everyone at Slashdot are a bunch of Apple fag boys. What do you shit out little X's for turds now too?
Oh... what the heck. Hail Pudge! Hail Steve Jobs! Get me my rainbow colored Apple undies that I may prance around a titanium Powerbook gaily.
Outlook Express is hardly the greatest mail client. But it was pretty good at IMAP. On the other hand Outlook 2000/XP is kind of shitty at IMAP.
Of course IMAP is open, standards-based mail, so what the fuck does Bill care if it goes to hell. And I'm supposed to use what in exchange, MSN, Hotmail, or an Exchange server? Give me a fucking break!
And how easy is it going to be to move any of this "new breed" of mail accounts to another platform. It's probably going to suck. Oh well.
My two cents...
The thing that is missing from BSD books (and every OS X book I've seen) is better information on managing OS X server, especially NetInfo. Apple has some OK docs, but they tend to be a little vague and absent of clear examples.
I would buy (even a pretty expensive, like $99) book on managing OS X server if it handled OS X Server's management tools, how they affected the environment, why they do things the way they do. And good examples of setting up various Mac OS X networks, with lots of clear examples of settings on Server and clients would be super useful!!!
At least one scholar from Stanford thinks it's very likely that Mr. Bush's mispronunciation is an intentional attempt to seem like a "regular guy" to the American people.
I think you meant to reply to the previous article friend.
Can you click on the right link now? How about now? Good.
Shout out to rlsnyder for laying the smack down on this being a seriously whack article!
I need to know where the approx. 16,000 folks they surveyed were located too! If they're all on the eastern seaboard or in southern California, what the hell does that tell me about the quality or lack thereof of each companies nationwide coverage. Nothing, that's what.
OK. You have two commercial OS's.
First you have MS. They hate open-source software, they want to kill Linux, they won't make any products for Linux.
Second, you have Apple. They like open-source, they use open-source, the need open-source. Without software like Apache, CUPS, GCC, Samba, etc. they're in trouble.
I think average users need a commercial OS and the installation ease and large support infrastructure that a commercial software company can provide. So I support Apple as you consumer OS provider because they NEED open-source, and so they're going to support it and expose people to it. And avoid Microsoft because they HATE open source and will do everything they can to belittle it, cripple it, and eventually destroy it.
It's not necessarily a red herring. If the problem is that a large amount of water is evaporating, it wouldn't necessarily make it back into the watershed, but could be lost through airborne transmission.
It probably depends a lot on the air currents and geography of the region. But it's very surprising how much water can be moved through the air.
Irrigation can also move water from one watershed to another (it does not respect watershed boundaries like rivers tend to).
For a really interesting technical analysis on the Aral sea issue, check out this google cache of a paper by the Land and Water Development Division, Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations.
First, I think it really depends on how strong your skills are and what your background is. Always teach what you know.
Second, watch out for online games if you are the type of person who can be intimidated by a pushy fifteen-year-old. Inevitably one will show up and try to change your lab into his person UT200X fantasy world.
Third. I am a frothing at the mouth Mac zealot, so don't rule out the opportunity of putting a couple Macs in there. It's an easy and safe way to experiment in the *nix world.
Fourth. Concepts are REALLY important for beginning computer users. Try to talk about why folders are called folders and how they help organize the computer. What RAM and hard drives are and why they're different. Lots of people don't have these basic concepts down, and they can be really helpful to starting to understand why the computer works the way it does.
Fifth. Have a great time. I grew up in Iowa and Iowans are great folks. I'm sure your lab will be a big hit!
get the Apple Care. That guy is a maniac.
It sound's like what the poster wants is OS X. From the article:
It's worth noting that Apple, with its Unix-based Mac OS X, has already implemented a working solution to this problem -- OS X had no trouble browsing the office network and reading and writing files.
While it is a little sad that he doesn't realize that OS X provides this feature using...drum-roll...Samba!!
It is almost certainly a Samba configuration issue that is stopping the gentleman from connecting to his companies shared directories. But why should he care?
Personally, I think the loyal lovers o' linux need to resign themselves to the fact that a lot of company administrators do not have the skills and/or patience needed to deal with *nix configuration files, compiling apps, dealing with install inconsistencies because there's no package for the distro their using, etc.
Seriously. A lot of these people (especially in small and mid-sized businesses) are basically glorified power-users. They've never written an application. They never written a batch file or unix script. They've probably run some stuff on the command line, but only if it was really necessary, and probably typed everything in from a book/browser.
This isn't a dig at these people. Many of these environments don't need an expert sys-admin. If they had one he'd get bored off his skull and quit! If people really want to see *nix and open-source thrive, they need to get these chumps, er, folks using OS X.
Yes I know Apple is a evil closed-source company. But they use a lot of good open-source technology to make things happen. They just manage the process for the "typical end user". If you don't like how Samba is set up on OS X, change it! It isn't MS land where everything is locked away. But if your looking for a good basic setup that deals decently with most AD Networks, is pre-installed, is easily accessible through the GUI and functions reasonably with in said GUI's conventions. Wow! It's OS X.
And the above is true of a lot of *nix services. Apache, sendmail, etc.. Pre-installed, pre-configured, totally re-configurable if you want to. Just open up a nice window, maybe fill out some basic fields (what is you server name? what is your work group name? African or European?) and you're all set to go.
One other nicety of OS X is a real version of Office. Yeah, I know, horrible, evil, icky-poo. But another "great feature" of a lot of small to mid-sized business is the presence of a shrieking-harpy who has the ear of the person holding the pursestrings. Being able to shut them up by telling them they'll have a real, 100% sanctioned by MS version of Office is a great treat.
So my assignment for all you loyal lovers o' Linux is to go out and preach OS X to mid-sized companies. Doing so only helps Linux (just like helping Linux is great for OS X!) because it gets a linux friendly, open-sourced technology-laden OS in place, and is really easy for "power user" type admins to install and manage (making them look good).
Hugs & Kisses,
Lord Dallan
You know it's funny. I don't think we have 3.5 million people building, and supporting cars. Of course they don't last sixty-seventy years (one hundred years...c'mon). But they take a pretty harsh beating compared to what happens to most peoples.
It's also interesting to note that it's still the heavy mechanical pieces that are likely to break or deteriorate (tires, transmission, etc.) not the complicated computer brain of the car. Does that mean that robo-fry cook can just get a new arm and go back to flipping burgers? Is the arm more or less expensive than a trip to Crap-County Medical Center for the meat-based employee? And rehab for the broken arm? And unemployment benefits? Also, are robo-eyes and ears less likely to break (less physical stress)? Just some thoughts.
I dunno about the ATM replacing the teller thing. I mostly go visit my bank because some of the tellers are f*cking hot (yeah I'm a loser). Now if they could have online banking with some integrated porn....
Why the fuck does TCO get totally lost in computer world?
Compared to MS: If you buy $800 eMacs and have about zero virus, e-mail bongo-bingo-webmonkey adware spazware crap to deal with you will have lower TCO.
Compared to anything: If you have PCs that easily see windows, apple, and unix file shares you will will have lower TCO.
Compare to Linux: If you have a mature, easy-to-use GUI, and an almost identical to what they've been using Office Suite you will have lower TCO
Finally in regards to some concerns I saw voiced about what if Apple shut down and all the OS/X stuff was obsolete and obsolescence in general:
some people worry that anything will be obsolete in about 90 days.
some people violently scream that the C64 is still a viable platform.
some people figure that even in the unlikely event that Apple decided to shut down today, you could still get support, parts, software, etc. of OS X for a good while. And that you could probably easily migrate from OS X to either back to MS (stay on the office track) or over to Linux start installing apps like open office on the OS X desktops, and then migrate chunks of users to Linux PCs. In fact, this might even ease the transition (and related support calls, user hand-holding etc) and lead to, dare I say it, lower TCO.
I'm in that last group.
I mean c'mon folks. I'm not saying OS X is the only answer, or is the greatest or whatever. But you don't have to treat it like it's some OS Leper either. It can be a great alternative in business environments. Really. No, Really. No, no, really...