Wait a minute... so there's no way to get fonts on a Linux desktop to look as good as fonts on Mac OS X, unless you're willing to break the law? Surely that can't be right?
Oh yeah, good call. On the other hand, when I cook dinner it usually sends my entire apartment building to the ER. Surely there must be a savings when I eat out instead.
Without getting into a huge, offtopic argument about urban vs. rural living, I can state that I (and my 8 million city-dwelling compatriots) use less energy, on average, than rural and suburban folks. We eat out at restaurants instead of cooking meals individually. Almost everything we need is within two minutes' walking distance, so we don't hop into our SUVs for a fifteen minute round trip every time we need groceries. And when we have to travel, we do it by rail and bus.
Physics is on our side, too. In winter, apartments don't bleed heat into the atmosphere the way single-family homes do. In summer, our buildings expose less surface area (ratio) to let in the heat.
I'll grant that someone living in a wood cabin in Montana might use less energy. But who wants to live in Montana?
Not long ago, a tape emerged from the ruins of the Free Software movement that appeared to be a recording of its final moments. Because of gaps in it, however, and some unclear references, its authenticity is not airtight, although it is generally presumed credible.
Stallman: Now we have choice.... Hackers, it's just something to put you to rest... you'll be free, hackers, you'll be free...
Sobbing in background
Stallman: Free at last. Free as in freedom.
Music and crying
Stallman:... please, keep your emotions down, keep your emotions down... hackers, it will not hurt if you will be, if you'll be quiet, if you'll be quiet.
Crying in background, humming, music
Stallman: It's never been done before, you say? It's been done by every tribe in history, every tribe facing annihilation. All the BSDs are doing it now. They refuse to bring any more distros into the world. They kill every fork because they don't want to live in this kind of a world. So be patient, be patient... death is... I tell you I don't care how many screams you hear, I don't care how many anguished cries... death is a million times preferable to ten more days of life in thrall to proprietary software. If you knew what was ahead of you, if you knew what was ahead of you, you'd be glad to be stepping over tonight. Death, death, death is common to people... and the Atari fans, they take death in their stride. Let's, let's be dignified.
Wails and crying
Stallman: If you'll quit telling them they're dying, if you Microsoft apologists will stop some of this FUD... People, people, people, I call on you to stop this nonsense. I call on you to quit exciting these hackers when all they're doing is going to a quiet rest. I call on you to stop this now. If you have any respect at all... Are we proud, free and open at the source, or what are we? Now stop this nonsense, don't carry this on any more, you're exciting your friends.
Crowd: Right, right.
Stallman: All over and it's good. No, no sorrow that it's all over. I'm glad it's over... Hurry, hurry my children, hurry. All I say, let's not fall in the hands of the enemy. Hurry, my children. Hurry... there are senior developers out here that I'm concerned about. Quickly, quickly, quickly, quickly, quickly... My dear HURD team, good knowing you... no more pain now... no more pain I said, child, no more pain. Steve Ballmer is laying in Redmond dead at this moment...
Cheers, shouting and clapping
Unidentified Man: All I'd like to say is that my parents, who I tried to convert to Linux, are filled with so much hate --
Stallman: You mean GNU/Linux. (in background) O.K., stop this, stop this, stop this, children, stop this crying, all of you.
Unidentified Man: -- hate and treachery. I think you people out here should think about how your relatives are suffering under the yoke of proprietary solutions and be glad about, that the children are being to rest. And all I can say is that I thank Father for making me strong to stand with it all and make me ready for it. Thank you...
Stallman: All that's, let me -- All they're doing is taking a drink, that takes, to go to sleep... That's what death is, sleep... I know, but I'm tired of it all.
Unidentified Woman:... loving thing we could have ever done, the most loving thing all of us could have done and it's been a pleasure walking with all of you in this revolutionary struggle. No other way I would rather go than to give my life for Free Software
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I
I heard a small sad sound, And stood awhile among the tombs around: "Wherefore, *BSDs," said I, "are you distrest,
Now, screened from life's unrest?"
II
--"O not at being here; But that our future second death is near; When, with the living, memory of us numbs,
And blank oblivion comes!
III
"These, our UNIX ancestry, Lie here embraced by deeper death than we; Nor thread nor kernel can you descry
With keenest backward eye.
IV
"They count as quite forgot; They are as systems who've existed not; Theirs is a loss past loss of fitful breath;
It is the second death.
V
"We here, as yet, each day Are blest with dear recall; as yet, can say We hold in some soul loved continuance
Of shape and voice and glance.
VI
"But what has been will be -- First memory, then oblivion's swallowing sea; Like Mac and Amiga, shall we merge into those
Whose story no one knows.
VII
"For which of us could hope To show in life that world-awakening scope Granted the few whose memory none lets die,
But all men magnify?
VIII
"We were but Fortune's sport; Things true, things lovely, things of good report We neither shunned nor sought... We see our bourne,
And seeing it we mourn."
The AC who posted "[The vendor] never violated GPL. He avoids it. Your last couple points are therefore irrelevant" is right on the money. Your argument is that incorporating GPL code doesn't force you to open the rest of your code, because you don't have to incorporate GPL code to begin with. That logic is pretty perverse.
Well, I thought you were trying to argue that "[i]ncorporating GPL code into a closed-source product does not force the vendor of the closed-source product to open his code."
Other than having a judge invalidate the license, the solutions you propose involve the vendor ceasing to distribute a product made from GPL-licensed code (by either removing GPL-licensed code, or negotiating a non-GPL license). But then the vendor is no longer "incorporating GPL code."
So I don't think you've shown that a vendor can add GPL code and still keep the product closed. Rather, haven't you shown the exact opposite--that if your product contains GPL code, you must either open source it or face a lawsuit?
Yeah, and if you've got appendicitis, you're not FORCED into the operating room; you could just let the damn thing kill you instead. And if your yacht sinks at sea, you're not FORCED to tread water. You could just drown, or perhaps a giant turtle will rise from the waters and carry you to shore. And those groceries you buy? You're not FORCED to pay the cashier for them. You could just ram your shopping cart through the plate glass windows and make a run for it.
Cool... so could you take the remote from an old TiVo and program MythTV to recognize what all the buttons do?
(I know, I know, I should "just fucking Google it.")
My other question is this. How come--apparently, based on what I've read here--MythTV takes "pulling hair and much fighting" in order to set up? I would imagine there's some sort of default set of preferences, with an easy way to pick your brand of tuner and whatever else might differ from the base installation. What exactly are the problems I'd run into trying to configure a box of my own? (Keep in mind I'm a Mac user.):-)
Ever hear of the uncanny valley? There's something like that going on with Office for Mac. At a glance, it appears to look and behave just like a Mac program should, but somehow... well, it's hard to point to anything specific, but there's something a little off. Popup menus are drawn with custom routines instead of Cocoa. The inline spellchecker doesn't antialias the underline squiggle properly. And so on and so forth. It just makes one queasy.
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Er... the point is that Apple hasn't done any of those things.
Wait a minute... so there's no way to get fonts on a Linux desktop to look as good as fonts on Mac OS X, unless you're willing to break the law? Surely that can't be right?
Oh yeah, good call. On the other hand, when I cook dinner it usually sends my entire apartment building to the ER. Surely there must be a savings when I eat out instead.
Without getting into a huge, offtopic argument about urban vs. rural living, I can state that I (and my 8 million city-dwelling compatriots) use less energy, on average, than rural and suburban folks. We eat out at restaurants instead of cooking meals individually. Almost everything we need is within two minutes' walking distance, so we don't hop into our SUVs for a fifteen minute round trip every time we need groceries. And when we have to travel, we do it by rail and bus.
Physics is on our side, too. In winter, apartments don't bleed heat into the atmosphere the way single-family homes do. In summer, our buildings expose less surface area (ratio) to let in the heat.
I'll grant that someone living in a wood cabin in Montana might use less energy. But who wants to live in Montana?
Not long ago, a tape emerged from the ruins of the Free Software movement that appeared to be a recording of its final moments. Because of gaps in it, however, and some unclear references, its authenticity is not airtight, although it is generally presumed credible.
Stallman: Now we have choice. ... Hackers, it's just something to put you to rest ... you'll be free, hackers, you'll be free ...
Sobbing in background
Stallman: Free at last. Free as in freedom.
Music and crying
Stallman: ... please, keep your emotions down, keep your emotions down ... hackers, it will not hurt if you will be, if you'll be quiet, if you'll be quiet.
Crying in background, humming, music
Stallman: It's never been done before, you say? It's been done by every tribe in history, every tribe facing annihilation. All the BSDs are doing it now. They refuse to bring any more distros into the world. They kill every fork because they don't want to live in this kind of a world. So be patient, be patient ... death is ... I tell you I don't care how many screams you hear, I don't care how many anguished cries ... death is a million times preferable to ten more days of life in thrall to proprietary software. If you knew what was ahead of you, if you knew what was ahead of you, you'd be glad to be stepping over tonight. Death, death, death is common to people ... and the Atari fans, they take death in their stride. Let's, let's be dignified.
Wails and crying
Stallman: If you'll quit telling them they're dying, if you Microsoft apologists will stop some of this FUD ... People, people, people, I call on you to stop this nonsense. I call on you to quit exciting these hackers when all they're doing is going to a quiet rest. I call on you to stop this now. If you have any respect at all... Are we proud, free and open at the source, or what are we? Now stop this nonsense, don't carry this on any more, you're exciting your friends.
Crowd: Right, right.
Stallman: All over and it's good. No, no sorrow that it's all over. I'm glad it's over... Hurry, hurry my children, hurry. All I say, let's not fall in the hands of the enemy. Hurry, my children. Hurry ... there are senior developers out here that I'm concerned about. Quickly, quickly, quickly, quickly, quickly ... My dear HURD team, good knowing you ... no more pain now ... no more pain I said, child, no more pain. Steve Ballmer is laying in Redmond dead at this moment ...
Cheers, shouting and clapping
Unidentified Man: All I'd like to say is that my parents, who I tried to convert to Linux, are filled with so much hate --
Stallman: You mean GNU/Linux. (in background) O.K., stop this, stop this, stop this, children, stop this crying, all of you.
Unidentified Man: -- hate and treachery. I think you people out here should think about how your relatives are suffering under the yoke of proprietary solutions and be glad about, that the children are being to rest. And all I can say is that I thank Father for making me strong to stand with it all and make me ready for it. Thank you ...
Stallman: All that's, let me -- All they're doing is taking a drink, that takes, to go to sleep ... That's what death is, sleep ... I know, but I'm tired of it all.
Unidentified Woman: ... loving thing we could have ever done, the most loving thing all of us could have done and it's been a pleasure walking with all of you in this revolutionary struggle. No other way I would rather go than to give my life for Free Software
Oh, for fuck's sake. Please grow up.
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I
... We see our bourne,
I heard a small sad sound,
And stood awhile among the tombs around:
"Wherefore, *BSDs," said I, "are you distrest,
Now, screened from life's unrest?"
II
--"O not at being here;
But that our future second death is near;
When, with the living, memory of us numbs,
And blank oblivion comes!
III
"These, our UNIX ancestry,
Lie here embraced by deeper death than we;
Nor thread nor kernel can you descry
With keenest backward eye.
IV
"They count as quite forgot;
They are as systems who've existed not;
Theirs is a loss past loss of fitful breath;
It is the second death.
V
"We here, as yet, each day
Are blest with dear recall; as yet, can say
We hold in some soul loved continuance
Of shape and voice and glance.
VI
"But what has been will be --
First memory, then oblivion's swallowing sea;
Like Mac and Amiga, shall we merge into those
Whose story no one knows.
VII
"For which of us could hope
To show in life that world-awakening scope
Granted the few whose memory none lets die,
But all men magnify?
VIII
"We were but Fortune's sport;
Things true, things lovely, things of good report
We neither shunned nor sought
And seeing it we mourn."
186 kW.
Don't bother trying to reason with twitter. I'm still trying to decide if he's really that obnoxious, or just a very determined troll.
Yep, looks like we're on the same page. :)
The AC who posted "[The vendor] never violated GPL. He avoids it. Your last couple points are therefore irrelevant" is right on the money. Your argument is that incorporating GPL code doesn't force you to open the rest of your code, because you don't have to incorporate GPL code to begin with. That logic is pretty perverse.
Well, I thought you were trying to argue that "[i]ncorporating GPL code into a closed-source product does not force the vendor of the closed-source product to open his code."
Other than having a judge invalidate the license, the solutions you propose involve the vendor ceasing to distribute a product made from GPL-licensed code (by either removing GPL-licensed code, or negotiating a non-GPL license). But then the vendor is no longer "incorporating GPL code."
So I don't think you've shown that a vendor can add GPL code and still keep the product closed. Rather, haven't you shown the exact opposite--that if your product contains GPL code, you must either open source it or face a lawsuit?
Yeah, and if you've got appendicitis, you're not FORCED into the operating room; you could just let the damn thing kill you instead. And if your yacht sinks at sea, you're not FORCED to tread water. You could just drown, or perhaps a giant turtle will rise from the waters and carry you to shore. And those groceries you buy? You're not FORCED to pay the cashier for them. You could just ram your shopping cart through the plate glass windows and make a run for it.
What the hell's the matter with you, anyway?
"A link to a site where anyone can place material is not a link worth having on wikipedia."
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA!!
Well, for example... this>/i> comment of yours is already overrated at Score: 1. :-)
Heh heh heh. I agree wholeheartedly, but who's going to police the branding campaign? The same guys who think GIMP and LAME are cool names?
Second highest, after Russia (not including countries like North Korea for which reliable statistics are impossible to obtain).
Regarding "could care less": it makes sense as cheap sarcasm. Though I agree with the rest of your post.
Cool... so could you take the remote from an old TiVo and program MythTV to recognize what all the buttons do?
:-)
(I know, I know, I should "just fucking Google it.")
My other question is this. How come--apparently, based on what I've read here--MythTV takes "pulling hair and much fighting" in order to set up? I would imagine there's some sort of default set of preferences, with an easy way to pick your brand of tuner and whatever else might differ from the base installation. What exactly are the problems I'd run into trying to configure a box of my own? (Keep in mind I'm a Mac user.)
Thanks in advance, if you can sate my curiosity.
Ever hear of the uncanny valley? There's something like that going on with Office for Mac. At a glance, it appears to look and behave just like a Mac program should, but somehow... well, it's hard to point to anything specific, but there's something a little off. Popup menus are drawn with custom routines instead of Cocoa. The inline spellchecker doesn't antialias the underline squiggle properly. And so on and so forth. It just makes one queasy.
I'd welcome a productivity suite from Apple.
Postmodernism is deader than punk. Please realign your worldview.
What do you use for the remote control with MythTV? Is it as nice and elegant as TiVo's remote?
Eschew? Perhaps you meant "embrace"?
I'm Japanese, and let me be the first to inform you: You speak the language like a retarded two-year old.